The Super Bowl Thread

[K-Dog]

Well that sucks.

 

Well it is officially off season. 

[ratedr]

Matt Ryan's biggest mistake was taking that damn sack. But the biggest goat of the game is Kyle Shanahan. Period. Just so so stupid.

[Militant X 1]

2 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I just cannot for the life of me put it on Ryan. He made incredible throws to put the Falcons in position and they'd shoot themself in the foot.

On the 20, you call a pass and take a sack. Then after that, call another pass and get a holding call. 

Call a pass and Freeman totally misses his block and allows a free rusher. 

And all the damn defensive penalties. My goodness. Just give the Patriots free first downs. That's never a bad idea.

Who took the sack instead of throwing the ball away?

[BmoreBird22]

2 minutes ago, ratedr said:

Matt Ryan's biggest mistake was taking that damn sack. But the biggest goat of the game is Kyle Shanahan. Period. Just so so stupid.

I'd actually rather have him take the sack than throw it away. At least a sack keeps the clock moving. 

The bigger issue for me is twofold. 

Why is Shanahan putting Ryan in shotgun and calling a deep enough drop that i) The Patriots have time to get to Ryan and ii) that when Ryan is sacked, it's for a 15 yard loss. Who calls a damn five to seven step drop out of shotgun on the 20 when all you need is a damn field goal to win?

 

[BmoreBird22]

1 minute ago, Militant X 1 said:

Who took the sack instead of throwing the ball away?

I'd rather him take a sack than throw it away. It keeps the clock running and at that juncture in the game, you need to keep the clock running.

[Militant X 1]

Just now, BmoreBird22 said:

I'd rather him take a sack than throw it away. It keeps the clock running and at that juncture in the game, you need to keep the clock running.

LOL!!

[JO_75]

Warriors blow 3-1 lead

Indians blow 3-1 lead

Falcons blow a 28-3 lead, 28+3= 31 (3-1)

Pats score 31 unanswered (3-1)

[IceDevilHH81]

8 minutes ago, ratedr said:

Matt Ryan's biggest mistake was taking that damn sack. But the biggest goat of the game is Kyle Shanahan. Period. Just so so stupid.

Well than better play two runs and take the FG and make it 2 scores... sure it was a long FG but you are indoors and still up 8....

[Tank 92]

7 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I'd rather him take a sack than throw it away. It keeps the clock running and at that juncture in the game, you need to keep the clock running.

I think you are in shock or something. lol.  At that juncture you need to avoid the sack and score at least a FG and ice the game. You know that. 

Edited February 6 by Tank 92

[Willbacker]

[BmoreBird22]

Just some thoughts-

Ryan had one hell of a game. I thought he was absolutely fantastic at marching the Falcons down the field and putting them in a position to win. He clearly saw the field and made some big time throws (fitting the ball over Rowe and into Jones on the sideline was a gorgeous throw). I don't hate taking the sacks when he did. It keeps the clock moving and that's exactly what the Falcons wanted.

The Falcons shot themselves in the foot. The three defensive holding penalties on one drive. The DPI by Campbell there at the end. The holding on Matthews at the end of the game that put the Falcons officially out of field goal range. Devonte Freeman missing a block and allowing a free rusher into Matt Ryan for a sack fumble. Just crucial mental mistakes where the Falcons really did show their youth and lack of playoff experience.

Have to really wonder if Alex Mack's medicine wore off. In the fourth quarter, he just didn't look like the same blocker and didn't have the same leg drive to spring open running lanes or sustain blocks up the middle. Could this be a reason that Shanahan didn't run it more? Doubtful, but possible.

Shanahan's play calling was incredibly head scratching. I had no issue with passing when Ryan was sacked and fumbled. There's over seven minutes left and you still have to consider passing a legitimate option. Freeman just flat out missed a block. However, why was he passing on the 20 with just over three minutes to go? A field goal seals the game. You're far less likely to fumble than take a sack or throw an interception. However, what gets me even more is that Shanahan yet again failed to run after the sack, instead opting to throw the ball, a play that resulted in a holding penalty. Also, Shanahan really seemed to get away from the play action game in the second half. In the first half, it sucked in the linebackers and opened up deep passing windows because Jones was doubled. In the second half, play action just seemed to be an after thought. I have no idea why it was such a difficult concept to throw off of play action or just run the ball.

BB made some huge half time adjustments. In the first half, the Patriots really kept things in close proximity and it allowed Neal to come down as an additional box defender. He was able to swarm to the ball and help redirect runners into the waiting arms of swarming defenders. In the second half, BB and McDaniels spread the defense out far more and forced Neal into coverage more. It created more one on one opportunities and didn't allow for crowded passing lanes. Also give credit to McDaniels for implementing a short passing game more frequently in the second half. In the first half, Jarrett and company were clearly rattling Brady and it really affected the deep passing game. McDaniels noticed how shaky Brady was and gave him short confidence building throws until Brady recaptured his composure. 

The Patriots just had so many breaks go there way. As stated before, all the defensive penalties. The Falcons penalties on crucial downs. The damn Edelman catch which very well could have been an interception.

Overall, still don't understand how the Falcons could allow 31 second half points. Even if they didn't score a single other point (which they didn't), how do you allow 31 points in a half?

Edited February 6 by BmoreBird22

[BmoreBird22]

11 minutes ago, Militant X 1 said:

LOL!!

Yeah, let's throw the ball away and stop the clock. Not like Brady has made a fourth quarter comeback or two. 

[BmoreBird22]

5 minutes ago, Tank 92 said:

I think you are in shock or something. lol.  At that juncture you need to avoid the sack and score at least a FG and ice the game. You know that. 

I don't have a problem with the sack for a few reasons...

1. A sack wasn't going to take them out of field goal range. That put them at like 52 yards for the field goal, a very makable kick for Matt Bryant. He was probably the second best field goal kicker in the league behind Tucker this year. 

2. Throwing the ball away stops the clock. Do you really want to give Brady more time to work the clock? At the very least, taking a sack keeps the clock running and then a subsequent run may force the Patriots to burn a crucial timeout. 

[BmoreRavensFan4Eva]

That loss was very deflating. 

[mg90]

6 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Yeah, let's throw the ball away and stop the clock. Not like Brady has made a fourth quarter comeback or two. 

That sack was the moment I knew the Patriots wold win. I'm sorry, but adding another possession onto the score should have been priority.

[BmoreBird22]

Just now, mg90 said:

That sack was the moment I knew the Patriots wold win. I'm sorry, but adding another possession onto the score should have been priority.

And it still could have been. That makes the field goal 52, 53 for Bryant, the second best field goal kicker in the NFL. No, it isn't an easy kick, but it's one Bryant can definitely make. Bryant had a long of 59 on the year, so asking him to make a 52 or 53 isn't unheard of.

Plus, you had another down after the sack to work with. Imagine the Falcons actually ran the ball like they should have and just picked up four or five yards (with like 23 to go, it's not crazy to think they'd get a good chunk of yardage) and made it like 48 yards. That's an even more makable kick and one that Bryant was perfect on during the season. In fact, over the past four years, he's 28-31 on kicks of 40-49 yards.

[JO_75]

Looking ahead, the Patriots home schedule for 2017 features the Panthers, Chiefs, Chargers, Texans, Bills, Jets, Dolphins.... and Falcons. I wonder if the NFL will go with a Super Bowl rematch for the second straight year to start the year(2016 started with Broncos vs Panthers rematch) and choose the Falcons as the Patriots opponent on the opening Thursday Night Game.

[redrum52]

Another 4th quarter collapse courtesy of Dean Pees by the way.

[BmoreBird22]

Just now, redrum52 said:

Another 4th quarter collapse courtesy of Dean Pees by the way.

The Patriots just employed an entirely different philosophy in the fourth quarter. They didn't allow the Falcons to go to prevent; the Patriots dictated the coverages the Falcons could run with tons of four and five wide sets.

[ravensdfan]

40 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Just some thoughts-

 

 

Overall, still don't understand how the Falcons could allow 31 second half points. Even if they didn't score a single other point (which they didn't), how do you allow 31 points in a half?

I don't know. I'm still trying to figure out how you allow 21 in the 4th quarter.

[Steve0x]

THE NFL IS RIGGED! Just like the WWE is! What good does do to suspend or fine somebody?  Consequences mean nothing. So what Break the rules or break the law consequences doesn't mean a damn thing. You're supposed to learn something you did was wrong. What is Tom Brady and Bill Belichick setting examples for our children? All kids gonna do is tell the authorities so what? If Tom Brady and Bill Belichick doesn't have to deal with consequences i don't have to deal with them nether so! 

[JO_75]

So.... what are we supposed to do until September?

[AsianRice]

12 minutes ago, JO_75 said:

So.... what are we supposed to do until September?

rewatch SB 2013 for thousand times.....

[Inqui]

42 minutes ago, Steve0x said:

THE NFL IS RIGGED! Just like the WWE is! What good does do to suspend or fine somebody?  Consequences mean nothing. So what Break the rules or break the law consequences doesn't mean a damn thing. You're supposed to learn something you did was wrong. What is Tom Brady and Bill Belichick setting examples for our children? All kids gonna do is tell the authorities so what? If Tom Brady and Bill Belichick doesn't have to deal with consequences i don't have to deal with them nether so! 

What?

[Steve0x]

20 minutes ago, JO_75 said:

So.... what are we supposed to do until September?

Watch Australian Rules Football 

 

[Steve0x]

Just now, Inqui said:

What?

You heard me. You should get your ears examine.

[reed20]

2 hours ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I'd rather him take a sack than throw it away. It keeps the clock running and at that juncture in the game, you need to keep the clock running.

Getting a field goal and making them drive down the field one more time kills a lot more clock.

[JO_75]

13 hours ago, JO_75 said:

Just saw a report that regardless of the outcome, Brady isn't going anywhere. Patriots expect Brady to play 3-5 more years. 

How I break this down....

What I want... Falcons Victory

What I think will happen... Patriots win

Final Prediction: Patriots 31 Falcons 28

Gostkowski kicks the game winning FG late to win.

I think I'm going to go play the lottery this week. That's about as close to predicting the final score I can get without predicting it correctly. Only 3 points off.

[Pats]

28 minutes ago, JO_75 said:

I think I'm going to go play the lottery this week. That's about as close to predicting the final score I can get without predicting it correctly. Only 3 points off.

I had 30-27 lol. Close enough

[Steve0x]

58 minutes ago, JO_75 said:

I think I'm going to go play the lottery this week. That's about as close to predicting the final score I can get without predicting it correctly. Only 3 points off.

Tell me ur numbers