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[News] Late For Work 2/3: Ravens Could 'At Least Inquire' About WR Brandon Marshall If Cut By Jets

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2 minutes ago, jsarrocohome@yahoo.com said:

Marshall is not a #1 Receiver and not worth 7.5 mil a year

Lmao? Based on what logic? The guy is the model of consistency. He is in NY where receivers go to die. Fitzpatrick had possibly the worst season ever, but Marshall is only one season removed from a heck of a year with 1500 yards and 10TDs. 

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10 minutes ago, TheConquerorWorm said:

Except when he CHOKED in the play-offs. Ravens Defense holds Peyton Manning to ZERO touchdowns, picks him off twice and McNair can't score a single point.

If I had to pick any year where we legitimately should have won the freaking SB, 06' definitely was it. That defense was underrated and incredibly scary. To hold Peyton to 0 points in your own house and you still lose in a FG spree is a shame. 

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I say draft Zay Jones.  It is time to find a great receiver and he is one, and let the guy build a sustaining rapport with Flacco over multiple years verses a one year stop gap. It is high time to get a great receiver and there is one starring you right in the face, these opportunities don't come by that often, go get him!

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If you think B. Marshall wouldn't drastically change the face of this offense then you are sadly mistaken, he would demand the respect of any defense plus adding him with Wallace(who we must retain), Perriman, and Moore!! Who would complain about that.. For many years I have been waiting for a WR of his caliber to come here since Boldin.. I would jump with joy if we could get him.. We need to be a little more active when it comes to free agency the "Right Player Right Price", is old and out dated. We should move on from the same old sad song we been singing!! It's 2017 you either roll with it or get rolled over!! #GORAVENS!!

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we need to start bringing in free agent QB'S instead of all thse hasbeen recievers,the last time we did it was AIR MCNAIR and it worked out pretty good!

Yeah call me when there's a decent FA QB available... certainly aren't going to be any better than Flacco now or in the near future.

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Brandon Marshall is a good player, IHMO. A single season removed does not mean he's done. It was mostly a situational effect.

Still, I would prefer the Ravens to roll with the talent they have. They desperately need to get the young roster of WR's firing on all cylinders and that doesn't happen without snaps. Also Joe needs to throw the ball with them, lots, ahead of spring camp. Need more crisply timed passes that the WR's can run through instead of them having to slow down to locate the ball.

Better to address a chain mover in the draft, IMHO. Take the WR that is closest to a big body sure hand WR. Would be real nice if Waller upped his game and filled the role, it is possible.

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This is finally an article I've read on here in quite some time that actually makes some sense. It makes a point and backs it up with some solid evidence.

Brandon Marshall is a great receiver that when teamed up with a good QB can make a lot of things happen. He's a proven producer with yards and touchdowns. I don't think he's washed up at all. He's an emotional guy and what the Jets had at QB last season was a joke. Team him up with a healthier and protected Joe Flacco who does tend to try to let his wideouts make plays for him ("jump ball Joe" as much as I hate seeing it) and he is easily a legitimate #1 target here. I made a post on here about the Ravens not having guys at WR that score the football. The last guy to have double digit TDs in a season was.....Torrey Smith in 2014. Prior to that it was 1996 with Michael Jackson! Because that was "Thriller" baby with Vinny "Testarossa" at QB having probably one of, if not the best, seasons of his career. If Marshall is cut the Ravens better be the first ones on the phone and lock him in a room like they did with Wallace.

Torrey Smith...love the guy and I think he'd get some sort of resurrection to his career coming back home. This is where it all started, he still does a lot of work in this community even though he's on the West Coast. There's a new coach in town, probably will be a new QB for sure, things are gonna change. Torrey coming back home....I think that's a recipe for good success. I don't think he'll be that 1,000 yard 10 TD guy again, but he can be a very good option and a speed threat that people can't sleep on. And what's wrong with getting a few more PI calls? They move the chains and extend drives. It will all be about money on this move. Right player, right price.

If I have the choice between getting Brandon Marshall in house with Torrey Smith or keeping Wallace and then bringing in....who knows....I like The Marshall option.

It is time to declare Marshall law in Baltimore!

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No doubt Marshall would be a good addition, but for sure if we can sign Marshall, we will cut Wallace, this would give BPerriman a chance to show his worth...

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Torrey Smith is a team guy, Mike Wallace is a ME guy. I would make that switch in a heartbeat - give me the guy that fights til the end, not the guy that disappears at the end.

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Yeah...Marshall...8 years too late but I did say it then... What a combo they would have made over this time... I was the first post about no more 'maybe'wide recievers here...

http://m.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/You-Said-It---Should-the-Ravens-Trade-for-Brandon-Marshall/E60D09B8-6E77-49BE-A313-351F3BF69453

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No Ravens make top-50 NFL merchandise sales list. Well when they don't play worth a damm and the TEAM can't win games why would anyone want to buy merchandise for the player/Team???
Ray Lewis and Ed Reed were super players because they wanted to do only one thing WIN. We don't have that in the players we have.
What's the teams record the past 4-5 years? BAD, just plain BAD.

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by rights, Perriman should be the Ravens #1 receiver this year. #1 pick, tenure, speed, youth and talent. But lets look back for a minute and give the kid a break because he has had it tough and he also has had a few pretty good receivers step up in front of him. So Aiken shows up when both Smith Sr and Perriman are out and logs in 800 yds for a season high, very impressive for a 5-11 record, and Flacco out for 4 Games. In 2014 Smith Sr comes in with over 1000 yds. Then last year 2016 Wallace and Smith and Aiken and Perriman, plus Pitta and the rest, all total for Flacco's biggest year and a team high 4300 yds.
So NO we don't need Marshal to be a #1, in fact we don't need Marshal to be a #2 that is what is great about it. What we need Marshal to be is a playmaker!
We need him to be a leader and a veteran who sets an example of NFL play. This guy is a gamer, he is big and fast and strong, He makes plays, acrobatic plays, that is what the Ravens need. Sure if the price is right get him. You have to let Aiken go to do it. But if he is available and the money looks good, do it. - Flacco can do much damage with-
Perriman, Wallace, Marshal, Moore, Campinaro, Renolds, Matthews.

Just because the Jets owe him 7.5, it doesn't mean that is what the Ravens will have to pay. 5.5 would be much better, that would just about equal out adding the + balance of Wallace vs gaining back SS Sr. Salary $.

But, and a big but, An experienced NFL Cornerback is much more important.

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This is finally an article I've read on here in quite some time that actually makes some sense. It makes a point and backs it up with some solid evidence.

Brandon Marshall is a great receiver that when teamed up with a good QB can make a lot of things happen. He's a proven producer with yards and touchdowns. I don't think he's washed up at all. He's an emotional guy and what the Jets had at QB last season was a joke. Team him up with a healthier and protected Joe Flacco who does tend to try to let his wideouts make plays for him ("jump ball Joe" as much as I hate seeing it) and he is easily a legitimate #1 target here. I made a post on here about the Ravens not having guys at WR that score the football. The last guy to have double digit TDs in a season was.....Torrey Smith in 2014. Prior to that it was 1996 with Michael Jackson! Because that was "Thriller" baby with Vinny "Testarossa" at QB having probably one of, if not the best, seasons of his career. If Marshall is cut the Ravens better be the first ones on the phone and lock him in a room like they did with Wallace.

Torrey Smith...love the guy and I think he'd get some sort of resurrection to his career coming back home. This is where it all started, he still does a lot of work in this community even though he's on the West Coast. There's a new coach in town, probably will be a new QB for sure, things are gonna change. Torrey coming back home....I think that's a recipe for good success. I don't think he'll be that 1,000 yard 10 TD guy again, but he can be a very good option and a speed threat that people can't sleep on. And what's wrong with getting a few more PI calls? They move the chains and extend drives. It will all be about money on this move. Right player, right price.

If I have the choice between getting Brandon Marshall in house with Torrey Smith or keeping Wallace and then bringing in....who knows....I like The Marshall option.

It is time to declare Marshall law in Baltimore!

I think the expense of Torrey and Marshal is more expensive than, Wallace -Marshal. So I think the Ravens, if the option was on the table would probably keep Wallace.
Wallace cost the Ravens 5.8 mil to release and 8 mil to keep I believe
Marshal could cost them up to 5- 7.5 mil per year to add
Torrey could cost them up to 4- 6.5 mil per year to add

SO unless they would get a trade offer or timing were to play out negatively, which would be very poor mgmt, I cannot see that scenario playing out.

They could opt to keep Wallace and add Torrey, but that may not be the option they like as much as Marshal just because of playing style.
Wallace just looks too expensive to release for most of the options unless they want to look at going at something like Torrey, Aiken, Perriman, and Draft WR. That would probably save some cash. Aiken becomes your Slot.

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5 hours ago, bigcatfrank1 said:

I think the expense of Torrey and Marshal is more expensive than, Wallace -Marshal. So I think the Ravens, if the option was on the table would probably keep Wallace.
Wallace cost the Ravens 5.8 mil to release and 8 mil to keep I believe
Marshal could cost them up to 5- 7.5 mil per year to add
Torrey could cost them up to 4- 6.5 mil per year to add

SO unless they would get a trade offer or timing were to play out negatively, which would be very poor mgmt, I cannot see that scenario playing out.

They could opt to keep Wallace and add Torrey, but that may not be the option they like as much as Marshal just because of playing style.
Wallace just looks too expensive to release for most of the options unless they want to look at going at something like Torrey, Aiken, Perriman, and Draft WR. That would probably save some cash. Aiken becomes your Slot.

We'd have to see what Torrey's market it like whether it makes sense or not. Aiken is gone because he's supposedly going to get into that 4-5 million a year range. That's crazy money. If the Ravens can't make am upgrade or get similar production and save money in the process then they will keep Wallace.

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I would love it if Marshall came over. Think it would help the team in so many ways it's crazy. Esp. Joe.( I know he's a drama queen). How many elite wrs aren't? I just wish Camp could stay healthy and be our slot guy. Maybe he finally will....who knows? I know nobody is holding their breath. But the guy is a play maker. Marshall, Perriman, and Camp would be awesome! No idea if we're keeping Wallace, and I don't think signing Torrey makes any sense what so ever. If we get rid of Wallace, we have to bring in a proven wr that has sure hands and can run routes.

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Brandon Marshall was working on the set like a retired player and playing WR with the Jets! We need 100% out our players! Don't do it!

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Marshall is sort of a team wrecker. He's usually good for one year, then things start to go downhill. If we sign him next year, we should make it a one year deal and make a run for the championship and see how things go.

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Rather roll the dice(and pay the price) with Terrele Pryor than go for an over-the-hill, headcase in Marshall. Pryor will have a hefty price tag, but the guy had 1000 yd season as a first year receiver with garbage QBs throwing to him. Throw in that he has great size, decent speed and he is in his prime. I think he is worth the price tag if the FO has the money to spend(which I have no clue if they do.) Anyone know what range Pryor will be asking? I think he is a star in the making and he would be a long term solution for Joe. Maybe it's about time to try and get a young, long term answer for Joe.

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I get that the FO's MO is to get an old vet after being cut, but maybe it's about time they try and grab a young, big fish. I honestly have no clue what the cap is, but Pryor would probably be a 10-10.5m a year guy. Is that totally unrealistic?

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Wallace broke 1000 yards during a season where Flacco checked down on the majority of his throws. Just think if Flacco was 100%, we had a real offense, and we actually tried to go deep with the ball. Wallace could have broken 1500 if we had an offensive line. Getting rid of Wallace, to me, is just stupid. If you would pay that much to keep Webb last year, it seems foolish not to give that to someone who was far more productive. I still say, like many other QB's who have already soaked their perspective teams, Flacco needs to take a paycut to allow for more money to be available to sign the free agents that will get Flacco back to the playoffs. Right now it is Flacco cashing a check and going to the bank or Flacco working with the Ravens and taking enough of a pay cut that gives them the flexibility to keep Wallace, Watson and still sign Marshall. Joe has to decide, does he want money, or does he want another ring. If he just wants money, its it time to pick up a good QB in the draft and start phasing him out. Big question this year will be is Joe a team player or is Joe a Joe player.

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20 hours ago, BMoreDuck said:

Rather roll the dice(and pay the price) with Terrele Pryor than go for an over-the-hill, headcase in Marshall. Pryor will have a hefty price tag, but the guy had 1000 yd season as a first year receiver with garbage QBs throwing to him. Throw in that he has great size, decent speed and he is in his prime. I think he is worth the price tag if the FO has the money to spend(which I have no clue if they do.) Anyone know what range Pryor will be asking? I think he is a star in the making and he would be a long term solution for Joe. Maybe it's about time to try and get a young, long term answer for Joe.

You don't want a headcase like Marshall.....but you want Pryor? You do know that he's not exactly sunshine and rainbows himself?

I don't recall Marshall having issues in Denver, but in Chicago he had some issues with Jay Cutler....as did the whole team. Cutler was the problem on that team.

I don't remember him being much of a problem with the Jets either. He had some good years with some terrible QB's and this past year Fitzpatrick returned to Earth and they had absolutely nothing else behind him. Still, I don't remember him really complaining about anything, probably because he was part of the player group that was begging for the team to bring Fitzpatrick back.

As long as you keep him happy and win, he produces. Because we'll need him in order to win, he'll have all the chances in the world to produce.

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