[News] Ravens Want Playmakers, No Matter What Size They Come In

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After the Ravens fell just inches short of a likely playoff berth because of a fantastic play by Steelers WR Antonio Brown, Director of College Scouting Joe Hortiz saw another reason why Baltimore needs more offensive skill players who show up in clutch situations.

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[ravens4life86]

Playmakers... ok. There will be playmakers every round.
Mike Williams,Dalvin Cook, Davis West Mich WR, Howard TE all possibly 16th picks
Rnd 2- Dede Westbrook, Amarah Darboh, Smith Schuster WRs

But are they going offense or defense?

[roamingcharges]

At this point the Ravens need Offense. As long as Dean Pees is coaching that "bend but don't break"... thing... whatever it is... they need to score 7 points since "bending" almost always means 3 points given up and occasionally 7 then the team MUST focus on building a lethal Offense otherwise there is zero hope.

[Drew P]

Yeah, they missed the playoffs because of one play, sure.

 

[The Greek]

At this point the Ravens need Offense. As long as Dean Pees is coaching that "bend but don't break"... thing... whatever it is... they need to score 7 points since "bending" almost always means 3 points given up and occasionally 7 then the team MUST focus on building a lethal Offense otherwise there is zero hope.

i am still disappointed pees was retained. hopefully harbaugh does not wait until a lead has vanished before telling his dc to turn up the pressure. the 2000 defense never took their foot off the gas. they attacked the whole game. harbaugh needs to make sure pees attacks the whole game

[The Beak]

Yeah we REALLY need another TE , it would be a wasted pick, We all know we need CBs, but if D Cook is there it could be tempting...

[ellicottraven]

Will we draft Howard? Will Pitta be released? Don't get me wrong because I really admire Pitta for staging an uncharacteristic comeback, but he's not a player that is a game changer where he can break a few tackles and get us a TD in crunch time. He is a comfort zone for Joe not because he catches every ball (he's dropped some dollies), but because he's Joe's best friend. 87 catches and less than 600 yards? And his first TD late in the season? Blocking so-so? We need to do better than that! If only Maxx Williams can suddenly grow into who we thought we drafted all will be well.

[Utah_Raven]

Yeah. I've been saying this for months. Glad the management finally figured it out.

[sami]

Will we draft Howard? Will Pitta be released? Don't get me wrong because I really admire Pitta for staging an uncharacteristic comeback, but he's not a player that is a game changer where he can break a few tackles and get us a TD in crunch time. He is a comfort zone for Joe not because he catches every ball (he's dropped some dollies), but because he's Joe's best friend. 87 catches and less than 600 yards? And his first TD late in the season? Blocking so-so? We need to do better than that! If only Maxx Williams can suddenly grow into who we thought we drafted all will be well.

Maxx set a lot of Raven rookie records for a TE. I think Gilmore is a play maker if we get him the ball more. Waller could be one too as far as tight ends go.

[sami]

In order for a "playmaker" to make plays, you have to give them the opportunity. Camp is a playmaker but they only use him for end arounds.

[thieverycorporation]

Playmakers... ok. There will be playmakers every round.
Mike Williams,Dalvin Cook, Davis West Mich WR, Howard TE all possibly 16th picks
Rnd 2- Dede Westbrook, Amarah Darboh, Smith Schuster WRs

But are they going offense or defense?

We'll see bro

[Heubs]

  Just now, roamingcharges said:

At this point the Ravens need Offense. As long as Dean Pees is coaching that "bend but don't break"... thing... whatever it is... they need to score 7 points since "bending" almost always means 3 points given up and occasionally 7 then the team MUST focus on building a lethal Offense otherwise there is zero hope.

i am still disappointed pees was retained. hopefully harbaugh does not wait until a lead has vanished before telling his dc to turn up the pressure. the 2000 defense never took their foot off the gas. they attacked the whole game. harbaugh needs to make sure pees attacks the whole game

I totally agree. Pees is entirely too passive in the 4 quarter, allowing team to get back into and win games. It wouldn't be so bad if our offense could move the ball consistently.

[mearzunkies]

  1 hour ago, ellicottraven said:

Will we draft Howard? Will Pitta be released? Don't get me wrong because I really admire Pitta for staging an uncharacteristic comeback, but he's not a player that is a game changer where he can break a few tackles and get us a TD in crunch time. He is a comfort zone for Joe not because he catches every ball (he's dropped some dollies), but because he's Joe's best friend. 87 catches and less than 600 yards? And his first TD late in the season? Blocking so-so? We need to do better than that! If only Maxx Williams can suddenly grow into who we thought we drafted all will be well.

Maxx set a lot of Raven rookie records for a TE. I think Gilmore is a play maker if we get him the ball more. Waller could be one too as far as tight ends go.

I agree the Ravens do NOT need a TE. DB, pass rush & Lineman(O&D)

[MadStorkSociety]

  2 hours ago, sami said:

  2 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

Will we draft Howard? Will Pitta be released? Don't get me wrong because I really admire Pitta for staging an uncharacteristic comeback, but he's not a player that is a game changer where he can break a few tackles and get us a TD in crunch time. He is a comfort zone for Joe not because he catches every ball (he's dropped some dollies), but because he's Joe's best friend. 87 catches and less than 600 yards? And his first TD late in the season? Blocking so-so? We need to do better than that! If only Maxx Williams can suddenly grow into who we thought we drafted all will be well.

Maxx set a lot of Raven rookie records for a TE. I think Gilmore is a play maker if we get him the ball more. Waller could be one too as far as tight ends go.

I agree the Ravens do NOT need a TE. DB, pass rush & Lineman(O&D)

Are trying to draft a coach?

[Ravenous_Ravens]

Just wondering if we might see some trades during the off season trying to accrue additional picks/talent for perhaps TE, where the numbers exceed to roster capacity? Might get lucky and end up with another 2-4 rounder..

[bigcatfrank1]

Cornerback, Cornerback, Cornerback, Williams, Wagner, RB, WR, Center.

[ellicottraven]

3 hours ago, sami said:

Maxx set a lot of Raven rookie records for a TE. I think Gilmore is a play maker if we get him the ball more. Waller could be one too as far as tight ends go.

I totally forgot about Waller! That kid's got potential to be a good receiving TE for sure. But, I want Maxx to blossom into the TE we thought he may become.

[PurpzRaven]

christian mccaffrey> reggie bush> playmaker

[dirtybird66]

no,if they had drafted RAMSEY,that play would not of even happened,it would of been picked off! i'm so tired of PEES'S prevent-wining defense!

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

In order for a "playmaker" to make plays, you have to give them the opportunity. Camp is a playmaker but they only use him for end arounds.

Camp can make plays and has made plays but he is very injury prone.

[dirtybird66]

how bout a "PLAYMAKER" at QB?

[TheConquerorWorm]

Playmakers... ok. There will be playmakers every round.
Mike Williams,Dalvin Cook, Davis West Mich WR, Howard TE all possibly 16th picks
Rnd 2- Dede Westbrook, Amarah Darboh, Smith Schuster WRs

But are they going offense or defense?

Williams is gone in the Top 10. I think Fournette goes to the Panthers and Cook goes to the Colts or the Eagles right before us. That basically leaves Davis, Howard or John Ross for us in the 1st Round. I don't know if you pass up a top notch CB or Pass Rusher for either (Davis maybe but not Howard). I like Ross but we don't need another speed guy. I think this is the perfect draft to trade back in the 1st Round and still get a shutdown corner. Trading back into the 20s could get us another 3rd Round pick that could net us CB Tre'Davious or RT Taylor Morton.

JuJu will be gone at the top of Round 2 (49ers or Bears). No way Stevie B drafts Dede after 2 domestic violence arrests.

Darboh is more a 3rd or 4th Round guy. I think the Ravens wait until those rounds on a WR like Darboh, Kupp, Zay or Courtland Sutton. Personally, I would love to see the Ravens get Zay or Sutton - that's the type of WR we need.

[Adreme]

3 hours ago, dirtybird66 said:

no,if they had drafted RAMSEY,that play would not of even happened,it would of been picked off! i'm so tired of PEES'S prevent-wining defense!

Based on what? All he had was a mediocre rookie season that was more talk than walk.

[Saxxin]

They drafted two last year. Only used one. Number one and two on the all time college list for TD's. Dixon got his shot. And showed he's worth keeping. Give Reynolds a chance this year.

[sizzlingdoom]

I don't think we need to add a lot of play makers to this team on the Offensive side of the Ball. Just Brandon Marshall and a crazy fast rb in rounds 3-5 maybe. In addition to that we have Perriman, Wallace, Dixon, Waller, and Moore. What we need is competent coaching to put these guys in situations to utilize their strengths. It boggles my mind to think about how incompetent the Ravens are at coaching offense. We do need play makers on the defensive side of the ball though! AT CB,OLB, and FS

[sizzlingdoom]

We need a play maker at returner...that's for sure. Jacoby's returns in 2012 were crucial to going all the way. Ever since 2012 we've just been a train wreck at the return position

[zing21042]

  14 hours ago, ravens4life86 said:

Playmakers... ok. There will be playmakers every round.
Mike Williams,Dalvin Cook, Davis West Mich WR, Howard TE all possibly 16th picks
Rnd 2- Dede Westbrook, Amarah Darboh, Smith Schuster WRs

But are they going offense or defense?

Williams is gone in the Top 10. I think Fournette goes to the Panthers and Cook goes to the Colts or the Eagles right before us. That basically leaves Davis, Howard or John Ross for us in the 1st Round. I don't know if you pass up a top notch CB or Pass Rusher for either (Davis maybe but not Howard). I like Ross but we don't need another speed guy. I think this is the perfect draft to trade back in the 1st Round and still get a shutdown corner. Trading back into the 20s could get us another 3rd Round pick that could net us CB Tre'Davious or RT Taylor Morton.

JuJu will be gone at the top of Round 2 (49ers or Bears). No way Stevie B drafts Dede after 2 domestic violence arrests.

Darboh is more a 3rd or 4th Round guy. I think the Ravens wait until those rounds on a WR like Darboh, Kupp, Zay or Courtland Sutton. Personally, I would love to see the Ravens get Zay or Sutton - that's the type of WR we need.

Many are forgetting the Ravens philosophy toward the draft; they pick the best player available on the board. Picking a CB, pass rusher, running back, offensive lineman, etc. first, will be dictated by who is the best on the board ....not by which one the Ravens need the most. We have needed CBs every year since I can remember. We were in dire need of a tackle with the loss of Osemele; however, had he been available, we would have drafted Elliott before Stanley (in my opinion)...Not taking anything away from Stanley, but the Ravens would have asked themselves, is Elliott a better running back than Stanley is a tackle? That is the Ravens logic. In the end, we will all be in wonderment at what the Ravens do with their early draft picks.

Also, the Ravens feel (and are correct) that the offense is the weakest part of our game. So I expect it to get the most attention early on. But the Ravens have incorrectly equated Flacco's poor play to his knee, his weapons and consistency in offensive coaching. Two of the three will have been rendered academic by 2017. However, line management has failed to entertain the idea that Flacco has peaked and become a middle of the road QB. Weapons will not change that.

JMHO

[Maurice0094]

I like East Carolina's Zay Jones and NC Ryan Switzer they were very productive, good route runners. We have a lot of speed something we didn't have years ago but now we need wr's who can work intermediate routes and get open. Joe needs more dependable targets that he is comfortable with besides Pitta and the RB's.

[nj_ravens]

  10 hours ago, TheConquerorWorm said:

  17 hours ago, ravens4life86 said:

Playmakers... ok. There will be playmakers every round.
Mike Williams,Dalvin Cook, Davis West Mich WR, Howard TE all possibly 16th picks
Rnd 2- Dede Westbrook, Amarah Darboh, Smith Schuster WRs

But are they going offense or defense?

Williams is gone in the Top 10. I think Fournette goes to the Panthers and Cook goes to the Colts or the Eagles right before us. That basically leaves Davis, Howard or John Ross for us in the 1st Round. I don't know if you pass up a top notch CB or Pass Rusher for either (Davis maybe but not Howard). I like Ross but we don't need another speed guy. I think this is the perfect draft to trade back in the 1st Round and still get a shutdown corner. Trading back into the 20s could get us another 3rd Round pick that could net us CB Tre'Davious or RT Taylor Morton.

JuJu will be gone at the top of Round 2 (49ers or Bears). No way Stevie B drafts Dede after 2 domestic violence arrests.

Darboh is more a 3rd or 4th Round guy. I think the Ravens wait until those rounds on a WR like Darboh, Kupp, Zay or Courtland Sutton. Personally, I would love to see the Ravens get Zay or Sutton - that's the type of WR we need.

Many are forgetting the Ravens philosophy toward the draft; they pick the best player available on the board. Picking a CB, pass rusher, running back, offensive lineman, etc. first, will be dictated by who is the best on the board ....not by which one the Ravens need the most. We have needed CBs every year since I can remember. We were in dire need of a tackle with the loss of Osemele; however, had he been available, we would have drafted Elliott before Stanley (in my opinion)...Not taking anything away from Stanley, but the Ravens would have asked themselves, is Elliott a better running back than Stanley is a tackle? That is the Ravens logic. In the end, we will all be in wonderment at what the Ravens do with their early draft picks.

Also, the Ravens feel (and are correct) that the offense is the weakest part of our game. So I expect it to get the most attention early on. But the Ravens have incorrectly equated Flacco's poor play to his knee, his weapons and consistency in offensive coaching. Two of the three will have been rendered academic by 2017. However, line management has failed to entertain the idea that Flacco has peaked and become a middle of the road QB. Weapons will not change that.

JMHO

"we would have drafted Elliott before Stanley (in my opinion)"

I suppose I can't say your wrong, but it's a situation we knew never would happen.

Facts: We knew Dallas wanted Elliot. We wanted Ramsey. We liked Ramsey more than both Elliot and Stanley.

I suppose we never will know if we liked Elliot more than Stanley, but we knew Elliot would be gone so it never was a serious thought.

[nj_ravens]

how bout a "PLAYMAKER" at QB?

"How bout".... even if you don't like Flacco we can't dump him for 3 years, so instead of wasting EVEN MORE cap on another QB why not get weapons to develop both for the present and for the next guy?