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Who are you taking Round 1?

Pre-Combine, First Round Selection.    71 members have voted

  1. 1. While staying in the realm of realism, Who do you want to see the Ravens target in the first round?

    • Quincy Wilson
    • Derek Barnett
    • Sidney Jones
    • Leonard Fournette
    • Dalvin Cook
    • Mike Williams
    • Marshon Lattimore
    • Corey Davis
    • Dan Feeney
    • Charles Harris
    • Cam Robinson
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    • Teez Tabor
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    • Takk McKinley
    • Soloman Thomas
    • Marlon Humphrey
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There is no chance on this earth we should and will take OJ Howard at 16. There is no value there and a dozen prospects that fill bigger needs and might be more talented at their positions as well. Howard is a physical specimen but that does not mean production. 

We have glaring needs at CB and Pass rush, plus we need OL. Those top-tier CBs are going to fly off the board, so if we take a TE then take a CB, then we will have some iffy middle of the pack edge guy that might just fall into the Z. smith category. 

I would literally rather take Harris, Feeney, Jones, Baker, Davis, Tim Williams, maybe even Robinson too. 

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If Fournette is available I think he is a must take. He would completely change the essence of this offense back to smash mouth in a hurry! And he may turn out to be the best back in the division too. He is a beast once completely healthy. I doubt very highly that he'll slip past 10, but you never know. I believe this draft is rich and deep with defensive backs and ends, so we have the luxury to wait till the second round and find a starter caliber CB and/or DE

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1 hour ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

There is no chance on this earth we should and will take OJ Howard at 16. There is no value there and a dozen prospects that fill bigger needs and might be more talented at their positions as well. Howard is a physical specimen but that does not mean production. 

We have glaring needs at CB and Pass rush, plus we need OL. Those top-tier CBs are going to fly off the board, so if we take a TE then take a CB, then we will have some iffy middle of the pack edge guy that might just fall into the Z. smith category. 

I would literally rather take Harris, Feeney, Jones, Baker, Davis, Tim Williams, maybe even Robinson too. 

I like Howard but I think the team wants to take someone who can be an immediate contributor. We'll see but he would have to seriously impress. 

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25 minutes ago, ellicottraven said:

If Fournette is available I think he is a must take. He would completely change the essence of this offense back to smash mouth in a hurry! And he may turn out to be the best back in the division too. He is a beast once completely healthy. I doubt very highly that he'll slip past 10, but you never know. I believe this draft is rich and deep with defensive backs and ends, so we have the luxury to wait till the second round and find a starter caliber CB and/or DE

 I scoffed at the idea of taking Zeke a while back since I didn't want us to pick an RB that high. Would take Stanley over him if he's destined to be an All-Pro LT, with that said, Zeke would have been a damn good pick at 6, If Fournette is just as good than I'm fine with it. Wouldn't be the worst move we could make. 

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At first i was completely against the idea of taking a RB, but the more i think about it, the more i kind of want Fournette, which, im pretty sure he wont be there when we pick.  I dont think we take Cook because of his past.  How is Fournette with pass protection and catching the ball out of the backfield?  Actually, i really want Fournette.  @BOLDnPurPnBlacK kind of swayed me into it with his points on Howard and having an offensive weapon

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wilson,tabor,fournette or cook if they are there or trade back a few spots to get peppers.

 

 

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9 hours ago, PurpleCity5 said:

I like Howard but I think the team wants to take someone who can be an immediate contributor. We'll see but he would have to seriously impress. 

Tight end is one of the slower development position, same goes with safety too. Pass rushers always seem to have it easiest to adapt, especially if they were in a similar scheme. 

I just think we need someone that can come in and add talent to this team week 1 

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11 hours ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

There is no chance on this earth we should and will take OJ Howard at 16. There is no value there and a dozen prospects that fill bigger needs and might be more talented at their positions as well. Howard is a physical specimen but that does not mean production. 

We have glaring needs at CB and Pass rush, plus we need OL. Those top-tier CBs are going to fly off the board, so if we take a TE then take a CB, then we will have some iffy middle of the pack edge guy that might just fall into the Z. smith category. 

I would literally rather take Harris, Feeney, Jones, Baker, Davis, Tim Williams, maybe even Robinson too. 

Wut? Howard is easily one of the most complete players in the draft, he's a top10 talent and is great value at 16.

 

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I actually think Corey Davis is a sleeper Ravens pick. He's a borderline top 10 talent in this draft and unquestionably the second best boundary receiver in the draft.

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2 hours ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

Tight end is one of the slower development position, same goes with safety too. Pass rushers always seem to have it easiest to adapt, especially if they were in a similar scheme. 

I just think we need someone that can come in and add talent to this team week 1 

That's definitely the case for TE, I think we've had some good rookie safety's before, I don't know if that's the case completely for that group. Linebacker to me is the one that comes in and produces, but I don't think we want to take one early. CBs take a while to come along as well as do LTs. I don't think we're going to avoid someone who takes time, but I think what we're looking for is someone at a position of need who can make an impact early, I don't think we want to go the route of Williams/Correa and pick someone based on potential which is why I think we might avoid Howard. 

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1 minute ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I actually think Corey Davis is a sleeper Ravens pick. He's a borderline top 10 talent in this draft and unquestionably the second best boundary receiver in the draft.

I really do like Davis, I'm starting to believe he might be the best WR in this class after watching him yesterday. I would really like to have him here. 

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Just now, PurpleCity5 said:

I really do like Davis, I'm starting to believe he might be the best WR in this class after watching him yesterday. I would really like to have him here. 

I think Williams is clearly the top receiver in the draft and I don't think it's too close, but I do think Davis is one of the premiere talents in the draft and with Wallace, Perriman, and Moore as the top three current receivers on the depth chart, I think receiver is a dark horse first round pick.

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6 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I think Williams is clearly the top receiver in the draft and I don't think it's too close, but I do think Davis is one of the premiere talents in the draft and with Wallace, Perriman, and Moore as the top three current receivers on the depth chart, I think receiver is a dark horse first round pick.

I just love Davis toughness and aggressiveness and I think it translates well into his game. I think the positives far outweigh the negatives and he can run some good routes, he's not always perfect at it but I've seen him run some sharp routes and I think in the future he could be one of the better route runners of the league, combine that with his size and speed and the guy can be a legit monster. 

I don't know who's better between the two, but I think Davis might be making the case that he's the best receiver in this class. I agree that WR is a dark-horse pick because the team more than anything wants a play-maker, Oz and DeCosta alluded to getting guys who can make plays for quite a while and they would love to have that at WR.  

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I'm not saying he's bad, I wouldn't mind taking him at 16, but I don't know, I just don't have fun watching Davis' tape.

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47 minutes ago, PurpleCity5 said:

I just love Davis toughness and aggressiveness and I think it translates well into his game. I think the positives far outweigh the negatives and he can run some good routes, he's not always perfect at it but I've seen him run some sharp routes and I think in the future he could be one of the better route runners of the league, combine that with his size and speed and the guy can be a legit monster. 

I don't know who's better between the two, but I think Davis might be making the case that he's the best receiver in this class. I agree that WR is a dark-horse pick because the team more than anything wants a play-maker, Oz and DeCosta alluded to getting guys who can make plays for quite a while and they would love to have that at WR.  

I think once Williams learns to run routes like the best receivers in the NFL, he's going to be one of the premiere receivers in the NFL. I think right now he gets by largely on extreme talent and natural ability, but once he really learns the game, watch out. It's going to be scary. Reminds me of Mike Evans in that sense. Not the most nuanced receiver, but he'll still dominate.

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You know who Davis reminds me of?... 

amari cooper. Like a lot. Measurables, routes, savviness, similar burst and speed, cooper had a better catch radius and was less prone to concentration drops, but there's a reason cooper was a top 5 prospect and Davis is top 20. Davis has a solid catch radius as well but i think that is the main reason he isn't projected as a top 5-10 talent. Mike Williams just won't be denied the reception and makes some amazing catches, that's what separates him

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2 hours ago, Jacquouille said:

Wut? Howard is easily one of the most complete players in the draft, he's a top10 talent and is great value at 16.

 

We each have our own opinions here, but I'd say you're sadly mistaken. 

Garrett, Allen, Adams, Fournette, Barnett, Hooker, Cook, M. Williams, Lattimore, S.Jones. 

Those are arguably the top 10 prospects. I don't see how Howard could contribute better than anyone of them. I don't see him helping our team the way others could. 

 

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13 minutes ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

We each have our own opinions here, but I'd say you're sadly mistaken. 

Garrett, Allen, Adams, Fournette, Barnett, Hooker, Cook, M. Williams, Lattimore, S.Jones. 

Those are arguably the top 10 prospects. I don't see how Howard could contribute better than anyone of them. I don't see him helping our team the way others could. 

 

I'd easily put in Howard and Wilson above Lattimore and especially Jones.

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19 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I'd easily put in Howard and Wilson above Lattimore and especially Jones.

You'd put Howard above lattimore? Man, that's a strong opinion lol. 

But then again I would be tempted to take feeney over any corner not named lattimore so I'm in the same boat

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1 hour ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I actually think Corey Davis is a sleeper Ravens pick. He's a borderline top 10 talent in this draft and unquestionably the second best boundary receiver in the draft.

I love Corey Davis. He is a big bodies WR and he's very technically sound. Dark Horse in the race. 

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25 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I'd easily put in Howard and Wilson above Lattimore and especially Jones.

On draft day you would take Howard over Lattimore🤔

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Since Howard was just brought up...

What player(s) in the first do think are realistic but you'd be somewhat surprised if we pick them?

I was just thinking about OJ Howard and I would be extremely surprised if he's our pick either at 16 or after a trade back. But I think it's a realistic pick that Ozzie might make if both top WRs are gone since, at least at the moment, our receiving corps is pretty lukewarm. I actually don't much like Howard's fit with us, he's a very dynamic talent but the way we've always used TEs, or at least how Flacco's always utilized TEs, is tough catches over the middle of the field and i question whether Howard's hands are good enough to be that guy to make catches above his head with guys draped over him. But, that being said, he's a great blocker - and by all accounts we want to run the ball first and foremost - and, as I said, Howard is a phenomenal athlete at his size with both speed and power. I don't want him to be the pick, I'd most likely not have him as BPA, but it seems like a possible route we could go.

I'd also file Jabrill Peppers in this category. I don't like his fit with us, I think he needs to be a weakside LB in the 4-3 in the same vein as Barron or Bucannon, but he's, again, a phenomenal athlete and he's got instincts around the line of scrimmage. Not to mention he also solves our revolving door at returner as well. Again, to me, he seems like a pick that Ozzie might make even though he's not one of the guys that I'd want.

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56 minutes ago, hn68wb4 said:

Since Howard was just brought up...

What player(s) in the first do think are realistic but you'd be somewhat surprised if we pick them?

I was just thinking about OJ Howard and I would be extremely surprised if he's our pick either at 16 or after a trade back. But I think it's a realistic pick that Ozzie might make if both top WRs are gone since, at least at the moment, our receiving corps is pretty lukewarm. I actually don't much like Howard's fit with us, he's a very dynamic talent but the way we've always used TEs, or at least how Flacco's always utilized TEs, is tough catches over the middle of the field and i question whether Howard's hands are good enough to be that guy to make catches above his head with guys draped over him. But, that being said, he's a great blocker - and by all accounts we want to run the ball first and foremost - and, as I said, Howard is a phenomenal athlete at his size with both speed and power. I don't want him to be the pick, I'd most likely not have him as BPA, but it seems like a possible route we could go.

I'd also file Jabrill Peppers in this category. I don't like his fit with us, I think he needs to be a weakside LB in the 4-3 in the same vein as Barron or Bucannon, but he's, again, a phenomenal athlete and he's got instincts around the line of scrimmage. Not to mention he also solves our revolving door at returner as well. Again, to me, he seems like a pick that Ozzie might make even though he's not one of the guys that I'd want.

I think oj Howard will make his money in the seams. He's got huge hands so I don't really worry about him not being able to make the catch. He's a more prototypical tight end and I think he will fit very well here

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1 hour ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

You'd put Howard above lattimore? Man, that's a strong opinion lol. 

But then again I would be tempted to take feeney over any corner not named lattimore so I'm in the same boat

 

1 hour ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

On draft day you would take Howard over Lattimore🤔

Yes, I truly think Howard is one of the elite talents of the draft. 

However, I'm not taking him if I'm the Ravens.

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23 minutes ago, ravensnation5220 said:

I think oj Howard will make his money in the seams. He's got huge hands so I don't really worry about him not being able to make the catch. He's a more prototypical tight end and I think he will fit very well here

huge hands is a stretch, for his size his hands aren't as big as you'd expect, for reference 5'10" Ejuan Price has hands that are a quarter of an inch bigger than Howard's.

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5 minutes ago, hn68wb4 said:

huge hands is a stretch, for his size his hands aren't as big as you'd expect, for reference 5'10" Ejuan Price has hands that are a quarter of an inch bigger than Howard's.

Ok maybe not huge but10 inch hands is still no slouch. And he has long arms to pluck the ball away from his body 

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36 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

 

Yes, I truly think Howard is one of the elite talents of the draft. 

However, I'm not taking him if I'm the Ravens.

I just think CB and pass. Rush is 3 times more important and drafting this high is where we need to hit home runs. Typically in this range we can land a legit corner or rusher 

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Just now, RavensDieHard21 said:

I just think CB and pass. Rush is 3 times more important and drafting this high is where we need to hit home runs. Typically in this range we can land a legit corner or rusher 

But that doesn't change the fact that I think Howard is a top 10 talent over Jones and Lattimore.

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31 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

But that doesn't change the fact that I think Howard is a top 10 talent over Jones and Lattimore.

Each is entitled to their own opinion, but we will see quickly 

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