[News] Ravens Have Drafted NFL's Most Senior Bowlers Since 2010

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It's almost a guarantee that a future Raven will be at this week's Senior Bowl. Nearly half of Baltimore's draft class last year suited up for the game.

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[ravens4life86]

A lot of busts too. Only a couple hrs Ko,Yanda,Flacco,Grubbs,

How bout this Courtney Upshaw who may win another ring in about a week. Should a kept him around obviously a winning player

But a lot of busts too

[ravens4life86]

Pass rush,CB,. Ilike seeing Ryan Anderson from Bama he was a beast in cgampionship game, but I want some1 sooner like Barnett, Harris etc with our 16th pick

[TheConquerorWorm]

Calling the shot: The Ravens will select RB Donnel Pumphrey with the 3rd Round Comp pick (for KO). Has a SSS mentality at RB with 4.4 speed. Most rush yards in the history of college football. This kid can go to the house every time he touches the ball......If he was 3 inches taller & 25 pounds heavier - he'd be a Top 5 pick - talent level is that good.

[omar586]

we need atleast 2CBs, 2 passrushers 2 OL in this draft.

who is good QB in this draft we can draft and develop in 5-7 rounds?//

[nj_ravens]

A lot of busts too. Only a couple hrs Ko,Yanda,Flacco,Grubbs,

How bout this Courtney Upshaw who may win another ring in about a week. Should a kept him around obviously a winning player

But a lot of busts too

"Ko,Yanda,Flacco,Grubbs"

More than that. Brandon Williams, Juice, Wagner, mcPhee, Oher, Grubbs, Leron McClain, Jarret Johnson, all the young players including Tavon Young.

And a bunch of other players who, while perhaps were not stars, played roles on our teams. I wouldn't call them busts....

[nj_ravens]

Calling the shot: The Ravens will select RB Donnel Pumphrey with the 3rd Round Comp pick (for KO). Has a SSS mentality at RB with 4.4 speed. Most rush yards in the history of college football. This kid can go to the house every time he touches the ball......If he was 3 inches taller & 25 pounds heavier - he'd be a Top 5 pick - talent level is that good.

Very likely. Apparently they've been meeting with him a lot. If the pieces fall that way, it very well may happen.

[hen826957]

Desmond King said the Ravens are a perfect fit hmm Ozzie l hope you heard him speak. The draft should be on the secondary, draft a corner, safety, and LB in the first three rounds not best player available... needs. Don't be trading back for more picks this time we need talent.

[sizzlingdoom]

Calling the shot: The Ravens will select RB Donnel Pumphrey with the 3rd Round Comp pick (for KO). Has a SSS mentality at RB with 4.4 speed. Most rush yards in the history of college football. This kid can go to the house every time he touches the ball......If he was 3 inches taller & 25 pounds heavier - he'd be a Top 5 pick - talent level is that good.

maybe cuz he's plays at SD state. Comparing this guy to SSS. LOL. 4.4 speed for the NFL, big deal. didn't even look that fast on film either vs bad competition. That would suck if we spent a third on him

[Rav'n Maniac]

We have drafted more players from the senior bowl than any other NFL team and we still don't have many true playmakers. Maybe it's time to try something different.

[nj_ravens]

  18 hours ago, TheConquerorWorm said:

Calling the shot: The Ravens will select RB Donnel Pumphrey with the 3rd Round Comp pick (for KO). Has a SSS mentality at RB with 4.4 speed. Most rush yards in the history of college football. This kid can go to the house every time he touches the ball......If he was 3 inches taller & 25 pounds heavier - he'd be a Top 5 pick - talent level is that good.

maybe cuz he's plays at SD state. Comparing this guy to SSS. LOL. 4.4 speed for the NFL, big deal. didn't even look that fast on film either vs bad competition. That would suck if we spent a third on him

"4.4 speed for the NFL, big deal."

Elliot ran a 4.47. just saying. Dixon ran a 4.58 for comparison.

[Drew P]

19 hours ago, TheConquerorWorm said:

Calling the shot: The Ravens will select RB Donnel Pumphrey with the 3rd Round Comp pick (for KO). Has a SSS mentality at RB with 4.4 speed. Most rush yards in the history of college football. This kid can go to the house every time he touches the ball......If he was 3 inches taller & 25 pounds heavier - he'd be a Top 5 pick - talent level is that good.

Thats what they don't need another core ST's runt

[billiejean]

  6 hours ago, sizzlingdoom said:

  20 hours ago, TheConquerorWorm said:

Calling the shot: The Ravens will select RB Donnel Pumphrey with the 3rd Round Comp pick (for KO). Has a SSS mentality at RB with 4.4 speed. Most rush yards in the history of college football. This kid can go to the house every time he touches the ball......If he was 3 inches taller & 25 pounds heavier - he'd be a Top 5 pick - talent level is that good.

maybe cuz he's plays at SD state. Comparing this guy to SSS. LOL. 4.4 speed for the NFL, big deal. didn't even look that fast on film either vs bad competition. That would suck if we spent a third on him

"4.4 speed for the NFL, big deal."

Elliot ran a 4.47. just saying. Dixon ran a 4.58 for comparison.

Yea but Elliot weighs 55 pounds more than Pumphrey and Dixon weighs 45 pound more than he does. They have him listed at 170 now and that of course isn't official. Im not sure if players get measured in the Senior Bowl or not but that would certainly be a more accurate number.

[nj_ravens]

  3 hours ago, nj_ravens said:

  9 hours ago, sizzlingdoom said:

  22 hours ago, TheConquerorWorm said:

Calling the shot: The Ravens will select RB Donnel Pumphrey with the 3rd Round Comp pick (for KO). Has a SSS mentality at RB with 4.4 speed. Most rush yards in the history of college football. This kid can go to the house every time he touches the ball......If he was 3 inches taller & 25 pounds heavier - he'd be a Top 5 pick - talent level is that good.

maybe cuz he's plays at SD state. Comparing this guy to SSS. LOL. 4.4 speed for the NFL, big deal. didn't even look that fast on film either vs bad competition. That would suck if we spent a third on him

"4.4 speed for the NFL, big deal."

Elliot ran a 4.47. just saying. Dixon ran a 4.58 for comparison.

Yea but Elliot weighs 55 pounds more than Pumphrey and Dixon weighs 45 pound more than he does. They have him listed at 170 now and that of course isn't official. Im not sure if players get measured in the Senior Bowl or not but that would certainly be a more accurate number.

THIS is a good reason why not to draft him. 170 pounds is pretty slight. But 4.4 speed for a back is good, that shouldn't be questioned, nor should we ever look at a running back and say "Man, he only runs a 4.4. Not worth it."

[Drew P]

15 minutes ago, nj_ravens said:

THIS is a good reason why not to draft him. 170 pounds is pretty slight. But 4.4 speed for a back is good, that shouldn't be questioned, nor should we ever look at a running back and say "Man, he only runs a 4.4. Not worth it."

He weighed in at a 166

[Adreme]

14 hours ago, hen826957 said:

Desmond King said the Ravens are a perfect fit hmm Ozzie l hope you heard him speak. The draft should be on the secondary, draft a corner, safety, and LB in the first three rounds not best player available... needs. Don't be trading back for more picks this time we need talent.

Teams that draft for need (QB is always the exception) end up watching the playoffs whereas teams that draft BPA are participating in it.  You can't be desperately trying to use the draft to plug the needs because you will never keep up and since you will only hit on 50% of picks and far less as rookies you are going to have these massive holes every year.

[billiejean]

5 hours ago, nj_ravens said:

THIS is a good reason why not to draft him. 170 pounds is pretty slight. But 4.4 speed for a back is good, that shouldn't be questioned, nor should we ever look at a running back and say "Man, he only runs a 4.4. Not worth it."

Yea Im with you there.  I don't even think making the decision not to draft him based soley on his weight is a good reason not to draft him.  Desean Jackson was 170 at the combine.  You really have to look at everything to determine weather he would be successful in this league.  I think Desean Jacksons are very very very rare, Its difficult to compete at that size, and there aren't many other examples of a guy who has been successful at that weight.  The next guy that comes to mind is Trindon Holiday.  I think he was probably drafted in the 7th round with the idea that he would only be able to compete on special teams.  Unfortunately for Pumphrey he already has the deck stacked against him because of his size and the fact that he played at San Diego State.  

[TheConquerorWorm]

9 hours ago, nj_ravens said:

12 hours ago, billiejean said:

  12 hours ago, nj_ravens said:

  18 hours ago, sizzlingdoom said:

  On 1/24/2017 at 2:52 PM, TheConquerorWorm said:

Calling the shot: The Ravens will select RB Donnel Pumphrey with the 3rd Round Comp pick (for KO). Has a SSS mentality at RB with 4.4 speed. Most rush yards in the history of college football. This kid can go to the house every time he touches the ball......If he was 3 inches taller & 25 pounds heavier - he'd be a Top 5 pick - talent level is that good.

maybe cuz he's plays at SD state. Comparing this guy to SSS. LOL. 4.4 speed for the NFL, big deal. didn't even look that fast on film either vs bad competition. That would suck if we spent a third on him

"4.4 speed for the NFL, big deal."

Elliot ran a 4.47. just saying. Dixon ran a 4.58 for comparison.

Yea but Elliot weighs 55 pounds more than Pumphrey and Dixon weighs 45 pound more than he does. They have him listed at 170 now and that of course isn't official. Im not sure if players get measured in the Senior Bowl or not but that would certainly be a more accurate number.

THIS is a good reason why not to draft him. 170 pounds is pretty slight. But 4.4 speed for a back is good, that shouldn't be questioned, nor should we ever look at a running back and say "Man, he only runs a 4.4. Not worth it."

Tavon Austin was 174, Taylor Gabriel was 167 (going to the SB), Dexter McCluster was 170, De'Anthony Thomas was 174. Nobody is saying he's a Zeke Elliot bell cow but he's an explosive player that can make plays - there's a role in our offense for that type of player. He has good hands and runs good routes.

His official measurables from the Senior Bowl: 5' 8 1/4", 169 lbs.

The NFL is a copycat league and if you want an offense like the Falcons, you need a Taylor Gabriel.

Edited January 26 by TheConquerorWorm

[sizzlingdoom]

  16 hours ago, nj_ravens said:

  18 hours ago, billiejean said:

  20 hours ago, nj_ravens said:

  On 1/25/2017 at 0:53 AM, sizzlingdoom said:

  On 1/24/2017 at 11:52 AM, TheConquerorWorm said:

Calling the shot: The Ravens will select RB Donnel Pumphrey with the 3rd Round Comp pick (for KO). Has a SSS mentality at RB with 4.4 speed. Most rush yards in the history of college football. This kid can go to the house every time he touches the ball......If he was 3 inches taller & 25 pounds heavier - he'd be a Top 5 pick - talent level is that good.

maybe cuz he's plays at SD state. Comparing this guy to SSS. LOL. 4.4 speed for the NFL, big deal. didn't even look that fast on film either vs bad competition. That would suck if we spent a third on him

"4.4 speed for the NFL, big deal."

Elliot ran a 4.47. just saying. Dixon ran a 4.58 for comparison.

Yea but Elliot weighs 55 pounds more than Pumphrey and Dixon weighs 45 pound more than he does. They have him listed at 170 now and that of course isn't official. Im not sure if players get measured in the Senior Bowl or not but that would certainly be a more accurate number.

THIS is a good reason why not to draft him. 170 pounds is pretty slight. But 4.4 speed for a back is good, that shouldn't be questioned, nor should we ever look at a running back and say "Man, he only runs a 4.4. Not worth it."

Tavon Austin was 174, Taylor Gabriel was 167 (going to the SB), Dexter McCluster was 170, De'Anthony Thomas was 174. Nobody is saying he's a Zeke Elliot bell cow but he's an explosive player that can make plays - there's a role in our offense for that type of player. He has good hands and runs good routes.

His official measurables from the Senior Bowl: 5' 8 1/2", 169 lbs.

The NFL is a copycat league and if you want an offense like the Falcons, you need a Taylor Gabriel.

Tavon Austin sucks
McCluster sucks and can barely stay in the league...if he still is....
De'Athony Thomas sucks

AND Gabriel runs a 4.27
AND Donnel is a 5th rounder at best.
Nice try though

[sizzlingdoom]

  On 1/24/2017 at 8:12 PM, hen826957 said:

Desmond King said the Ravens are a perfect fit hmm Ozzie l hope you heard him speak. The draft should be on the secondary, draft a corner, safety, and LB in the first three rounds not best player available... needs. Don't be trading back for more picks this time we need talent.

Teams that draft for need (QB is always the exception) end up watching the playoffs whereas teams that draft BPA are participating in it.  You can't be desperately trying to use the draft to plug the needs because you will never keep up and since you will only hit on 50% of picks and far less as rookies you are going to have these massive holes every year.

The thing is BPA matches needs this year. And...don't know if you noticed or not, but the Ravens have been trying to draft BPA every year, and they keep whiffing. And we've been watching the playoffs more often than not for years

[sizzlingdoom]

Desmond King said the Ravens are a perfect fit hmm Ozzie l hope you heard him speak. The draft should be on the secondary, draft a corner, safety, and LB in the first three rounds not best player available... needs. Don't be trading back for more picks this time we need talent.

King is the man. We should take someone at 16, then trade back into the latter part of the first and grab King. Those 2 moves would make us playoff bound

[sizzlingdoom]

Calling the shot: The Ravens will select RB Donnel Pumphrey with the 3rd Round Comp pick (for KO). Has a SSS mentality at RB with 4.4 speed. Most rush yards in the history of college football. This kid can go to the house every time he touches the ball......If he was 3 inches taller & 25 pounds heavier - he'd be a Top 5 pick - talent level is that good.

LOL. just a smaller and way slower version of Dri Archer. 3rd round???? No wonder you like the way the Ravens have been drafting

[sizzlingdoom]

  19 hours ago, nj_ravens said:

THIS is a good reason why not to draft him. 170 pounds is pretty slight. But 4.4 speed for a back is good, that shouldn't be questioned, nor should we ever look at a running back and say "Man, he only runs a 4.4. Not worth it."

He weighed in at a 166

166! That's ridiculous.176 is too small for a back

[TheConquerorWorm]

12 hours ago, sizzlingdoom said:

King is the man. We should take someone at 16, then trade back into the latter part of the first and grab King. Those 2 moves would make us playoff bound

You want to trade away a 2nd, 3rd & 4th to move back into the 1st Round to draft an undersized CB that can't cover a quality NFL WR. If he had the speed or agility he might be able to be a slot CB, but since he doesn't have NFL level of either, he will have to move to S. Because of that, he has a 2nd Round grade on him by most teams and scouts - but you want to trade up and draft him in the 1st. Talk about stupid drafting.......lol

[sizzlingdoom]

  On 1/26/2017 at 3:21 AM, sizzlingdoom said:

King is the man. We should take someone at 16, then trade back into the latter part of the first and grab King. Those 2 moves would make us playoff bound

You want to trade away a 2nd, 3rd & 4th to move back into the 1st Round to draft an undersized CB that can't cover a quality NFL WR. If he had the speed or agility he might be able to be a slot CB, but since he doesn't have NFL level of either, he will have to move to S. Because of that, he has a 2nd Round grade on him by most teams and scouts - but you want to trade up and draft him in the 1st. Talk about stupid drafting.......lol

Funny how you know exactly what it would take to move up...lol. Yeah there's a general consensus of values, but that obviously changes when things heat up with teams on the clock on draft day. And you are hilarious stating that he can't cover wrs in the NFL outside or in the slot LOL And undersized you say??? Hmm, he's taller than Young, and bigger. And I remember Young guarding 6'6 Eifert 1 on 1 on the goaline from the 5. So yeah, nice logic there. And you say most scouts have blah blah grade on him. Interesting I bet scouts had a 6th round grade on Brady, and a 5th round grade on Sherman, and a 4th round grade on Young. But you're right, we should take a 166lb rb from SD State in the 3rd! LOL

[TheConquerorWorm]

  21 hours ago, TheConquerorWorm said:

  On 1/26/2017 at 6:21 AM, sizzlingdoom said:

King is the man. We should take someone at 16, then trade back into the latter part of the first and grab King. Those 2 moves would make us playoff bound

You want to trade away a 2nd, 3rd & 4th to move back into the 1st Round to draft an undersized CB that can't cover a quality NFL WR. If he had the speed or agility he might be able to be a slot CB, but since he doesn't have NFL level of either, he will have to move to S. Because of that, he has a 2nd Round grade on him by most teams and scouts - but you want to trade up and draft him in the 1st. Talk about stupid drafting.......lol

Funny how you know exactly what it would take to move up...lol. Yeah there's a general consensus of values, but that obviously changes when things heat up with teams on the clock on draft day. And you are hilarious stating that he can't cover wrs in the NFL outside or in the slot LOL And undersized you say??? Hmm, he's taller than Young, and bigger. And I remember Young guarding 6'6 Eifert 1 on 1 on the goaline from the 5. So yeah, nice logic there. And you say most scouts have blah blah grade on him. Interesting I bet scouts had a 6th round grade on Brady, and a 5th round grade on Sherman, and a 4th round grade on Young. But you're right, we should take a 166lb rb from SD State in the 3rd! LOL

The fact that you think he's Darrelle Revis proves to everyone on here what we already know about you.....Yes he's taller and bigger than Young but he's much, much slower. This from the guy that posted that Hester was a great signing and we would all be on his bandwagon. Great prediction there....Keep posting and proving it......lolololololol

[sizzlingdoom]

  22 hours ago, sizzlingdoom said:

  On 1/26/2017 at 3:47 PM, TheConquerorWorm said:

  On 1/26/2017 at 3:21 AM, sizzlingdoom said:

King is the man. We should take someone at 16, then trade back into the latter part of the first and grab King. Those 2 moves would make us playoff bound

You want to trade away a 2nd, 3rd & 4th to move back into the 1st Round to draft an undersized CB that can't cover a quality NFL WR. If he had the speed or agility he might be able to be a slot CB, but since he doesn't have NFL level of either, he will have to move to S. Because of that, he has a 2nd Round grade on him by most teams and scouts - but you want to trade up and draft him in the 1st. Talk about stupid drafting.......lol

Funny how you know exactly what it would take to move up...lol. Yeah there's a general consensus of values, but that obviously changes when things heat up with teams on the clock on draft day. And you are hilarious stating that he can't cover wrs in the NFL outside or in the slot LOL And undersized you say??? Hmm, he's taller than Young, and bigger. And I remember Young guarding 6'6 Eifert 1 on 1 on the goaline from the 5. So yeah, nice logic there. And you say most scouts have blah blah grade on him. Interesting I bet scouts had a 6th round grade on Brady, and a 5th round grade on Sherman, and a 4th round grade on Young. But you're right, we should take a 166lb rb from SD State in the 3rd! LOL

The fact that you think he's Darrelle Revis proves to everyone on here what we already know about you.....Yes he's taller and bigger than Young but he's much, much slower. This from the guy that posted that Hester was a great signing and we would all be on his bandwagon. Great prediction there....Keep posting and proving it......lolololololol

Yes, because I put I think HE's Darrel Revis. I said he reminds me of him. As in there are similarities in their games. Nobody is anyone else wise one. And it's funny that even someone like yourself, that's "played higher levels of football" still puts so much stock into 40 times. Football is speed is different-foot placement, using your space efficiently, reaction time, etc. And CLEARLY Hester still had it if you watched the playoffs. Unfortunately we were about the worst coached team in all phases this year, which made him look like crap.SO, you failed again, nice try though

[TheConquerorWorm]

  17 hours ago, TheConquerorWorm said:

  On 1/27/2017 at 9:07 AM, sizzlingdoom said:

  On 1/26/2017 at 6:47 PM, TheConquerorWorm said:

  On 1/26/2017 at 6:21 AM, sizzlingdoom said:

King is the man. We should take someone at 16, then trade back into the latter part of the first and grab King. Those 2 moves would make us playoff bound

You want to trade away a 2nd, 3rd & 4th to move back into the 1st Round to draft an undersized CB that can't cover a quality NFL WR. If he had the speed or agility he might be able to be a slot CB, but since he doesn't have NFL level of either, he will have to move to S. Because of that, he has a 2nd Round grade on him by most teams and scouts - but you want to trade up and draft him in the 1st. Talk about stupid drafting.......lol

Funny how you know exactly what it would take to move up...lol. Yeah there's a general consensus of values, but that obviously changes when things heat up with teams on the clock on draft day. And you are hilarious stating that he can't cover wrs in the NFL outside or in the slot LOL And undersized you say??? Hmm, he's taller than Young, and bigger. And I remember Young guarding 6'6 Eifert 1 on 1 on the goaline from the 5. So yeah, nice logic there. And you say most scouts have blah blah grade on him. Interesting I bet scouts had a 6th round grade on Brady, and a 5th round grade on Sherman, and a 4th round grade on Young. But you're right, we should take a 166lb rb from SD State in the 3rd! LOL

The fact that you think he's Darrelle Revis proves to everyone on here what we already know about you.....Yes he's taller and bigger than Young but he's much, much slower. This from the guy that posted that Hester was a great signing and we would all be on his bandwagon. Great prediction there....Keep posting and proving it......lolololololol

Yes, because I put I think HE's Darrel Revis. I said he reminds me of him. As in there are similarities in their games. Nobody is anyone else wise one. And it's funny that even someone like yourself, that's "played higher levels of football" still puts so much stock into 40 times. Football is speed is different-foot placement, using your space efficiently, reaction time, etc. And CLEARLY Hester still had it if you watched the playoffs. Unfortunately we were about the worst coached team in all phases this year, which made him look like crap.SO, you failed again, nice try though

Hester clearly still had it?....lol And you think the coaches are the ones that made Hester just watch the punt bounce right in front of him.....lol

Keep posting & proving.....hahahaha

[Adreme]

It's not like it's hard to know what it would cost to move back into the first round with the picks we have.  There is a chart that has been around awhile that assigns point values to each pick and you can use that as a rough guideline for trades as most teams do.

 

In regards to his estimate jumping 17-19 spots to get back into the 1st round would probably cost at least a 2nd 3rd and 4th.  It's a huge jump and picks deprecate in value quickly so it's not exactly a move in would make in a draft this deep.

[sizzlingdoom]

It's not like it's hard to know what it would cost to move back into the first round with the picks we have.  There is a chart that has been around awhile that assigns point values to each pick and you can use that as a rough guideline for trades as most teams do.

 

In regards to his estimate jumping 17-19 spots to get back into the 1st round would probably cost at least a 2nd 3rd and 4th.  It's a huge jump and picks deprecate in value quickly so it's not exactly a move in would make in a draft this deep.

YES, there is a chart.......LOL. Like I said, things change on draft day in the heat of the moment, especially if a team really wants somebody. CMON MAN