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[News] Should Ravens Target A First-Round Running Back?

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Most evaluators put top running back talent, such as Florida State's Dalvin Cook and LSU's Leonard Fournette, too far ahead of the Ravens at pick No. 16, and ESPN's Mel Kiper doesn't believe they're worthy of treatment like the Cowboys' Ezekiel Elliott.

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Why are we talking about running backs when this coaching staff won't run the ball when West & Dixon CAN run the ball !

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Running back at #1? Someone has to be making a funny. We have good backs... we have problems on our coaching staff, OL, CB, edge rusher, and now add inside linebacker to the list. If Ozzie doesn't ace this draft (including the 2nd and 3rd rounds) we will have a tough time repeating an 8-8 season.

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Mel Kiper will give the Ravens another A+ after this years Draft. So that means down the road we will have one player on the roster in 3 to four years with all of our A+ picks from 2017.

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We have too many other needs. Our running backs are fine if you would #1 improve the O line and #2 actually RUN them.

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"RBs ... combined for only six plays for over 20 or more yds" A very disingenuous assessment. Put simply, we didn't run the ball much last year. The RBs didn't get enough opportunities. This is so emblematic of this coaching regime. They never look in the mirror but always puts the onus on the players.
There were many games this last year when they started the game with a pass and never stopped passing. There was so much lack of feel for the game. It happened all over the field but especially in the red zone. It seemed like they were in such a hurry for Flacco to throw that TD, that they throw on 1st and 2nd downs and usually all incomplete passes and we are left 3rd and goal, then a dump off pass behind the line of scrimmage. End result? Tucker field goal!

It doesn't matter if you have Elliot, if you don't use him, he is not gonna produce.

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If Fournette or Cook is available, it would be foolish not to pick one. We need star playmakers on this team because we are riddled with mediocrity everywhere on offense right now. Look at the AFC North, almost every team has better running backs than we do. When Rice was here, we were the best, but now?

Also, taking one of these top playmakers in the first round will force the hand of the coaches to use the run more too. It'll relieve pressure on Flacco to just hand the ball over when he is being blitzed instead of dinking and dunking all day long or committing stupid and costly interceptions.

We need a superstar offensive player that can become the identity of our offense and the face of it. Fournette and Cook have the potential to be that player. I say the Ravens should strictly stick to the best player available strategy in the first and second rounds period. That is the only way we are going to amass talent again.

Finally, John needs to keep his butt out of the draft room and try not to force the scouting department and front office to draft position players only if they are ace special teamers too anymore. He needs to get back to focus primarily on coaching and let Ozzie, Eric and Hortiz do the drafting.

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d'onta foreman in the 2nd rd. would be nice. cb or edge rusher in the 1st depending on what we do in free agency

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No, we need to bolster other positions. Dixon and West are a great combo but we need to actually use them. Also, you can find quality RB's outside of the first round. If you look at the top ten by yards this year 1. Elliot (round 1), 2. Jordan Howard (round 5), 3. Demarco Murray (round 3), 4. Jay Ajayi (round 5), 5. Bell (round 2), 6. Shady (round 2), 7. Johnson (round 3), 8. Blount (undrafted), 9. Freeman (round 4), 10. Miller (round 4) only one was taken in the first round.

32 backs achieved 500 or more yards this year, only 6 of them (Elliot, Ingram, Gordon, Gurley, Stewart and Mathews) were selected in the first round. Yes, less backs are being chosen in the first round now but that supports the notion that you can find quality guys in later rounds.

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If Fournette or Cook is available, it would be foolish not to pick one. We need star playmakers on this team because we are riddled with mediocrity everywhere on offense right now. Look at the AFC North, almost every team has better running backs than we do. When Rice was here, we were the best, but now?

Also, taking one of these top playmakers in the first round will force the hand of the coaches to use the run more too. It'll relieve pressure on Flacco to just hand the ball over when he is being blitzed instead of dinking and dunking all day long or committing stupid and costly interceptions.

We need a superstar offensive player that can become the identity of our offense and the face of it. Fournette and Cook have the potential to be that player. I say the Ravens should strictly stick to the best player available strategy in the first and second rounds period. That is the only way we are going to amass talent again.

Finally, John needs to keep his butt out of the draft room and try not to force the scouting department and front office to draft position players only if they are ace special teamers too anymore. He needs to get back to focus primarily on coaching and let Ozzie, Eric and Hortiz do the drafting.

The RB's we have now are good enough if the coaches use them correctly Dixon was carrying steelers on his back 10 yards down field and he will be a lot better this year and west also

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Cook Maybe, Fournette is injury prone , but for me CB-CB-CB-CB oh did i mention I Think we should draft a#1CB

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We need no RB's in the early rounds. We need CB's and a pass rusher. If Ozzie doesn't hit a homerun in this draft he along with John will lose their jobs. Need to go after a veteran WR not older than 30!

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  38 minutes ago, ellicottraven said:

If Fournette or Cook is available, it would be foolish not to pick one. We need star playmakers on this team because we are riddled with mediocrity everywhere on offense right now. Look at the AFC North, almost every team has better running backs than we do. When Rice was here, we were the best, but now?

Also, taking one of these top playmakers in the first round will force the hand of the coaches to use the run more too. It'll relieve pressure on Flacco to just hand the ball over when he is being blitzed instead of dinking and dunking all day long or committing stupid and costly interceptions.

We need a superstar offensive player that can become the identity of our offense and the face of it. Fournette and Cook have the potential to be that player. I say the Ravens should strictly stick to the best player available strategy in the first and second rounds period. That is the only way we are going to amass talent again.

Finally, John needs to keep his butt out of the draft room and try not to force the scouting department and front office to draft position players only if they are ace special teamers too anymore. He needs to get back to focus primarily on coaching and let Ozzie, Eric and Hortiz do the drafting.

The RB's we have now are good enough if the coaches use them correctly Dixon was carrying steelers on his back 10 yards down field and he will be a lot better this year and west also

Agree with both point of views. We clearly didn't use our RBs nearly enough or even put them in advantageous position when we did. Granted drafting a phenom could force Flacco to get out of that back yard football mentality of "every body go long" that we've seen so much of since 2013. However at what price? We have holes all over the field on both sides of the ball. CBs, safeties, pass rushers, ILB, WRs, potentially Center, RT and return specialists.
Drafting a RB in the first round is very risky, not unlike a first round WR. If our scouting department is what it's cracked up to be, it should find that game breaker of a RB in later rounds.
That would make a whole lot of difference given our limited picks and cap space this year.

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NO!!!!!!! Target a first round DB, OL, DE/OLB Dixon and West have proven that they can be Starters at the NFL level.

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fournette or cook should be fine if the good CB, olb or WR are gone who are worth that spot are gone

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Draft a back-up Qb for 2 years and let sloppy Joe Flacco fly ! Cousins threw for 9,083 yards, 54 touchdowns and just 23 interceptions over his last two seasons. A 4th round pick, 40 miles away blowing the stats out of average 1st round Joe.SMH

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Draft a back-up Qb for 2 years and let sloppy Joe Flacco fly ! Cousins threw for 9,083 yards, 54 touchdowns and just 23 interceptions over his last two seasons. In that time. A 4th round pick, 40 miles away blowing the stats out of average Joe.

not defending joe but kirk has had the better oc's to work with. more creative and know how to utilize the talent they have. the oc's we have had are clueless aside from kubs. they have had strong running games as well.

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fournette has had a history of injuries and we r not in the position to take chances. what we do in free agency will determine the draft game plan but i am on board with cb or edge rusher 1st. lack of cb depth cost us in 2 of the last 3 seasons plus dean pees 4th qtr prevent defense

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56 minutes ago, PersianRaven said:

Who are your top 3 CBs in this year's draft my fellow Ravens fans?

Marshon Lattimore Ohio 

Sidney Jones Washington 

Quincy Wilson Florida 

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Those saying yes have visions of Elliot dancing in their head and believe we should draft the next one. I'm not convinced that there is such an RB in this draft and also have to remind people that Elliot, while clearly super talented, performed based on the O line in front of him. Think of this - had we drafted Elliot ... what would he have looked like in 2016? 

I suppose it is possible that we'll feel the BPA is going to be an RB, I don't think that will be the case. And if we even use need as a tie-breaker for tier 1 talent, an RB will not be taken 16th overall in this draft. 

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We need a shut down cb to make our pass rushers better, Then either a OL or edge rusher. We don't have the ability in the FO to draft a WR.

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12 minutes ago, outkast1 said:

Draft a back-up Qb for 2 years and let sloppy Joe Flacco fly ! Cousins threw for 9,083 yards, 54 touchdowns and just 23 interceptions over his last two seasons. A 4th round pick, 40 miles away blowing the stats out of average 1st round Joe.SMH

Why burn a 4th rounder when you can wait until the 6th round and pick the next Tom Brady? 

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RB is not a pressing need. Would it help to have an electric back? Yes of course, but we need to upgrade LG and C position before that can even happen. 

How did we lose most of our games? Late game go ahead TDs. We've given up the most in the league the last two years. We hold leads late and then cannot stop a thing, e.g., Raiders, Giants, Jets, Steelers, and even last year v Cincy, Arizona, Oakland again, etc. 

we had no rush. Especially with 4 or 5 guys. We send 6 and we leave huge holes in coverage. So either a CB or Edge has to be in the first round or two, hopefully one in each of double dip. 

Id take any combos of: 

Sid Jones & TJ Watt 

Charles Harris & Desmond King 

Tim Williams & Tre White 

Quincy Wilson and Ryan Anderson 

Derek Barnett & Jourdan Lewis

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  18 minutes ago, outkast1 said:

Draft a back-up Qb for 2 years and let sloppy Joe Flacco fly ! Cousins threw for 9,083 yards, 54 touchdowns and just 23 interceptions over his last two seasons. A 4th round pick, 40 miles away blowing the stats out of average 1st round Joe.SMH

Why burn a 4th rounder when you can wait until the 6th round and pick the next Tom Brady? 

Next year we will draft in the top 10 with this lame coaching staff.Qb Luke Faulk -)

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SHOULD RAVENS TARGET A FIRST-ROUND RUNNING BACK?

I didn't think we "targeted". I thought we picked the Best Player Available?

Actually, I would prefer a modified BPA. Try to fill holes with trades/FA's so we can go BPA. But if what is available via trade/FA is not good enough, then draft to fill the hole first. If it is a reach to do so, then trade down for more picks.

By the way, that's the only time I would trade for more picks. Generally, i think we are better off staying put or trading up for real talent.

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25 minutes ago, balfan23 said:

Those saying yes have visions of Elliot dancing in their head and believe we should draft the next one. I'm not convinced that there is such an RB in this draft and also have to remind people that Elliot, while clearly super talented, performed based on the O line in front of him. Think of this - had we drafted Elliot ... what would he have looked like in 2016? 

I suppose it is possible that we'll feel the BPA is going to be an RB, I don't think that will be the case. And if we even use need as a tie-breaker for tier 1 talent, an RB will not be taken 16th overall in this draft. 

so you want to pass on surrounding flacco with an elite talent?

Cook and fournette have the tools to become elite players in the NFL.

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Ravens will not draft a RB in the first round of draft. There are many more important wholes that need addressing, like secondary (CB/S). Could even argue another solid LB may be needed now. Hoping Zadarius Smith steps up his game this next year, after a bit of a sopomore slump, he has game, just has to take care of things on the field.

I'm still not 100% sold on him but Jabriel Peppers is an interesting thought as he could help fill a number of voids. He could play LB in coverage downs, Safety, return punts/kickoffs and even run the ball on occasion (specific packages or trick plays, etc).

My biggest concern on a player like this is whether the Ravens have the coaches in place to really get good use and mileage out of a player like this. His biggest upside is versatility, so keeping him on the field and rotating him around so opponents do not know what position he's playing play to play is key.

I almost prefer the Ravens to draft a more prototypical CB with great ball awareness. All ball hawking secondary players tend to have a knack for finding the ball before it arrives allowing them to play the ball and have a chance to make some big plays. Too many times I've seen secondary basically allow the WR to catch the ball before engaging and making a play, not on the ball but cleanup tackles. Need to be able to challenge WR's to even have a chance to catch the ball more often.

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