[News] Late For Work 1/20: Ranking Ravens' Biggest Offseason Needs

[billiejean]

23 hours ago, rmcjacket23 said:

1. Obviously a bit presumptuous to say that teams would prefer Baltimore over Buffalo in terms of likelihood of success. If you're talking strictly about PAST success, then sure, except unless he has a time machine and can go back and coach those players at those times, then past success doesn't play a ton into it, especially as an OC.

2. We don't know who is QB is going to be. Could be Tyrod (who he coached here), could be somebody else, in which case he will have good say into picking a QB he wants rather than being handed an existing one.

3. I'll definitely say this... I would take Buffalo's roster of players over the Ravens very quickly right now. I think it would be hard to argue that we have a more talented roster than them at this point.

4. I seriously doubt the OC cares about the organizational structure or how well a GM communicates with an Owner/HC. He's an OC. He reports to the HC. The HC picks him... not the GM, and not the owner. 

His job is to coach the offense and devise a game plan. His job isn't to worry about the politics of whether or not a Owner/GM communicate with each other.

That may be true, but If i were an OC I would be worried that Doug Whaley had no idea that Rex was getting fired, and was clueless as to why he was getting fired. And then to top it off DW conveyed his ignorance about the situation to the media, which is something in my opinion that should have been kept in house. But your right as an OC its probably doesn't concern you as much as if you were an HC.  But I don't think that being able to pick a QB from the discarded QB pile is as beneficial as you are making it seem.  And youre right their wide receivers are superior to ours mainly because of Sammy.  And Leseawn Mccoy is certainly an upgrade over our RBs, but there offensive line only has one guy that fits Ricks zone blocking scheme well.  C. Glenn, J Miller, R. Incognito, C. Kuanjo are all maulers.  And I didn't say that "teams" would pick Baltimore over Buffalo.  I said that Rick most likely would.  Do you really believe that past success can not be a factor in predicting future success unless every single detail is exactly the same? Joe had one of the best seasons of is career in 2014.  There are a lot of players that will be here in 2017 that were on the 2014 team.  And I think this roster is better than that one in a lot of areas.  There is also a bigger risk involved in Buffalo because youre working for a first time head coach that you don't know very well.  I can not say where he would go for sure, but I would say that there are a lot more risks associated with the Buffalo job than there are here.

[rmcjacket23]

7 minutes ago, billiejean said:

That may be true, but If i were an OC I would be worried that Doug Whaley had no idea that Rex was getting fired, and was clueless as to why he was getting fired. And then to top it off DW conveyed his ignorance about the situation to the media, which is something in my opinion that should have been kept in house. But your right as an OC its probably doesn't concern you as much as if you were an HC.  But I don't think that being able to pick a QB from the discarded QB pile is as beneficial as you are making it seem.  And youre right their wide receivers are superior to ours mainly because of Sammy.  And Leseawn Mccoy is certainly an upgrade over our RBs, but there offensive line only has one guy that fits Ricks zone blocking scheme well.  C. Glenn, J Miller, R. Incognito, C. Kuanjo are all maulers.  And I didn't say that "teams" would pick Baltimore over Buffalo.  I said that Rick most likely would.  Do you really believe that past success can not be a factor in predicting future success unless every single detail is exactly the same? Joe had one of the best seasons of is career in 2014.  There are a lot of players that will be here in 2017 that were on the 2014 team.  And I think this roster is better than that one in a lot of areas.  There is also a bigger risk involved in Buffalo because youre working for a first time head coach that you don't know very well.  I can not say where he would go for sure, but I would say that there are a lot more risks associated with the Buffalo job than there are here.

1. Rick is going to try to run whatever scheme that works. Just because you come from a background of running something doesn't mean that's what you run all the time. Good coaches adapt.

I can tell you that with the elimination of the cut blocks, Kubiak and his style of running is seeing a big time problem the last few years. If you've noticed, Denver hasn't been very effective at running the ball the last few years, so its not like everywhere they go they just run the ball well.

2. No, I think coaches look at a teams current situation and assess how valuable it is. I don't think they care if you won the SB five years ago or not, especially if those players aren't here anymore. In fact, when you say "a lot of the players that were here in 2014 are here now", you must be referencing the defense, which has nothing to do with Dennison unless he's planning on being the HC. If you make some assumptions, like Zuttah will be gone and Wagner won't be resigned, you're looking about 4 out of 5 different starters on the offensive line than what we had in 2014. Steve Smith is gone, Torrey Smith is gone. Justin Forsett is gone. Basically whole new receiving core, and our best pass catching TE, Pitta, played all of 3 games that year and may not be here himself.

So on offense, Dennison gets Joe and Yanda, and that's basically it. Quite the turnover wouldn't you say?

There's only a handful of places on this team where I think the roster is better, and its almost exclusively on the defensive side of the ball, which again, is not Dennison's area.

I'd rather have the offensive personnel in Buffalo (outside of the QB), so that's why I would go there.