[News] Ravens Want To Add Another Quarterback

[bigcatfrank1]

  3 hours ago, Purple Dawg 96 said:

Keep Mallet if you can or get another veteran and get a youngster in the draft with legs and size! I'm preparing myself for more bad play because Joe just doesn't show or have any motivation what so ever like I see out of QBs in the playoffs! Smh still cannot believe we're not in the playoffs! Smh

You can see the fire in every Qb that made it to the playoffs.Flacco looks like hes going to a funeral .

ah, that's because they made it to the playoffs. Joe is just fine, I'm sure you could go out there and throw for 4100 yds after coming back from a torn ACL. but hey, you are something else right. And you only want the Ravens to have Brady, is that it? You want a cry baby? You want a Falcon team who couldn't field a defense for 8 years? you want a Green Bay team who by the luck of the green Irish 4 leaf clover got just enough out of James Starks to put them over the top in 2010. Sure Rodgers is a gunslinger but it may take until Lacy to get back to the big show we will see. And we turn to Piggy Ben, well, well, Mr. extend-a-play he is something its like a Cave man on Steriods and then his band of merrymen always seem to bail him out...except when it comes to Tomlin. This is where Kaos meets pride and the two collide in a foolish looking way. So get me a 1000 yard runner, give me Joe, Pitta and a couple WR's with the team we have and I say we get to the playoffs. Adios QB dreamer

[kasene]

Joe Flacco is not winning another superbowl let alone going to playoffs! A change is needed. Am tired of Harbaugh telling us how good Joe is. Joe is not a top ten quarterback. I'm tired of seeing other teams in the playoffs.

[bigcatfrank1]

I'm sure some team will take a chance on Ryan and Ravens will be forced to take a QB in the draft.

I think you are right, Ryan is big and strong someone will probably need him maybe to start the season while a #1 is preparing or something. Nonetheless the Ravens could shop for a decent 3 year QB and still draft one, what happened to Wenning? he sure looked like he had promise.

[JamesA119]

  1 hour ago, outkast1 said:

  4 hours ago, Purple Dawg 96 said:

Keep Mallet if you can or get another veteran and get a youngster in the draft with legs and size! I'm preparing myself for more bad play because Joe just doesn't show or have any motivation what so ever like I see out of QBs in the playoffs! Smh still cannot believe we're not in the playoffs! Smh

You can see the fire in every Qb that made it to the playoffs.Flacco looks like hes going to a funeral .

ah, that's because they made it to the playoffs. Joe is just fine, I'm sure you could go out there and throw for 4100 yds after coming back from a torn ACL. but hey, you are something else right. And you only want the Ravens to have Brady, is that it? You want a cry baby? You want a Falcon team who couldn't field a defense for 8 years? you want a Green Bay team who by the luck of the green Irish 4 leaf clover got just enough out of James Starks to put them over the top in 2010. Sure Rodgers is a gunslinger but it may take until Lacy to get back to the big show we will see. And we turn to Piggy Ben, well, well, Mr. extend-a-play he is something its like a Cave man on Steriods and then his band of merrymen always seem to bail him out...except when it comes to Tomlin. This is where Kaos meets pride and the two collide in a foolish looking way. So get me a 1000 yard runner, give me Joe, Pitta and a couple WR's with the team we have and I say we get to the playoffs. Adios QB dreamer

The way Flacco is playing, the only thing keeping him in Baltimore is his contract

[JamesA119]

  6 hours ago, Molson Man said:

I can't stand fans and media that say we were inches away from the playoffs.
As I remember it we were inches shy of beating Pittsburgh but far from the playoffs. We did completely get blown out by the Bengals the following week. So that's one lose and a few inches away from being tied with the Steelers. Wake up we aren't that close in fact we could be getting even worse next year you never know.

The makeup of this team right now is stuck in the mud of mediocrity.

Unfortunately true.

[Chuckx999]

Now they want to get a QB, thank god!!! We sure need one with good old "got my money in the bank" Flacco missing receivers so much. Trade him and lets start over. Just think of the players they could bring in with his salary gone. Add 1-3 good draft choices and even at 8 & 8 again in 2017 we can only get younger, faster and better.

[757RavensFan]

Tyrod Taylor will probably be available. 

[JamesA119]

I'd draft a good prospect if one is available. We don't have to struggle with Flacco till his contract runs out. If the new guy can play why not play him. How much money you make doesn't legislate that you are actually on the field. Flacco can ride the bench till such a time that we are able to move him.

[purpledown]

the Ravens might not be as sold on Flacco as people think

[Ravens8383]

Tyrod Taylor will probably be available. 

He won't want to come back to Baltimore to be a back up again.

[JamesA119]

the Ravens might not be as sold on Flacco as people think

Well this upcoming year is when we find out. He has been called out by both the owner and the head coach. If he struggles a change could be made.

[Crusader]

Joe's coolness is great in the playoffs like Aaron Rogers but his ball placement just sucks.

[RayRayRaven]

timin is everything and we can't wait another year. we can have 5 high slot number one draft picks in three years by tradin flacco this year. teams will give us two number ones for him. clevland

a team does have to have two high quality qbs as newsom says but a team also needs a high quality draft man doin his job

[RayRayRaven]

5 hours ago, sami said:

If we would have beat Pittsburgh, we would have beat the Bengals. To lose a game the way we did in Pittsburgh then have to play a game that means nothing is a hard thing to do.

kinda the speculation but if we had beaten pitsburg cinncy still would have creamed us. I rooted for joe but joey walnuts must go

[RaRaRavens]

I like it how people in the organization are done making excuses for Flacco and people outside the organization are now slowly stopping to buy in all these excuses.

For 9 years now it has been everyone else's fault but Flacco's. Whether it's been the O-line or it's the OC's system or it's the WRs or it's the absence of a run game or it's the play calling or it's not having the right weapons or it's the injuries or it's not having enough stability or ... ENOUGH!!!

We are paying him like the top dog, yet he needs impossibly perfect squad around him to be effective. I don't know any QBs who have all these things listed above, but most who get paid as much as Flacco does succeed without their team meeting all these prerequisites. So something's gotta give.

 

That's why I like the strong signal and it seems we are moving forward with the right attitude - either Flacco steps up his game or we will start looking for someone who will.

Edited January 17 by RaRaRavens
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[DENNYK]

Seems like Joe has lost his focus to me. The look on his face while he is on the sideline is not one of a QB that wants to win. Joe seems to be more into his role as a family man and a father now to me. That is a good thing and I admire him for that. However, when you go to work you still strive to excel at that job and I am not seeing that from Joe any longer. He is most definitely not "playing like a Raven". We do need to look for his successor and the time to do that is now.

[Rav'n Maniac]

A late round QB is nothing but a wasted pick imo. How many late round QB's have gone on to have even decent careers. There's Brady and Taylor but that is not the norm. If you are going to spend a pick on a QB it shouldn't be any later than the 4th round.

[RaRaRavens]

2 minutes ago, Rav'n Maniac said:

A late round QB is nothing but a wasted pick imo. How many late round QB's have gone on to have even decent careers. There's Brady and Taylor but that is not the norm. If you are going to spend a pick on a QB it shouldn't be any later than the 4th round.

Tyrod Taylor was a 6th round pick if I'm not mistaken. Turned out to be a nice, solid and cheap backup for 5 years. And convinced at least Rex Ryan to hire him as a starter. I wouldn't say that is a complete waste of a pick. How many players from other positions have we drafted in 6th or 7th round who wound up starters? Unless you count Camp, who is injured more often than not, I can't name single one.

[manofsteel]

Flacco needs to see these championship games and try to act like those QB.

[whobilly]

Flacco needs to see these championship games and try to act like those QB.

Every QB can watch these games. They will NOT morph into Brady or Rodgers. There is Brady. There is Rodgers. Then there is everybody else.

[whobilly]

A late round QB is nothing but a wasted pick imo. How many late round QB's have gone on to have even decent careers. There's Brady and Taylor but that is not the norm. If you are going to spend a pick on a QB it shouldn't be any later than the 4th round.

Brady and Taylor do not belong in the same paragraph. Brady was not the norm. Taylor was/is a very mediocre QB.

[zing21042]

Now they want to get a QB, thank god!!! We sure need one with good old "got my money in the bank" Flacco missing receivers so much. Trade him and lets start over. Just think of the players they could bring in with his salary gone. Add 1-3 good draft choices and even at 8 & 8 again in 2017 we can only get younger, faster and better.

Chuck,

If I understand the cap structure correctly, trading Flacco does not detract from the Ravens paying him his guaranteed money. That dead cap money per year will be $47 mil (2017), $29 mil (2018), $16 mil (2019), and $8 mil (2020). We are stuck with him till a minimum of 2019. The only way we can get out of the Flacco mess early is to get a high enough draft and get a Dax Prescott (Dallas) rookie starter in the process. Prescott's 4 year contract amounts to not much more than the league minimum i.e. $650K/year (approx $2.7 mil/4 years). This is the only way that Dallas was able to afford paying Romo to warm the bench. Even next year, Dallas will owe Romo $19 mil even if they let him go. If they let him go after the June deadline I believe they can split his dead money between 2 years. That means they have an "elite" quarter back (Dax Prescot) for his salary (approx. $650K) plus 1/2 the remainder of Romo's guaranteed money ($9.5 mil) for the next 2 years i.e. $10.2 mil. And here we are holding the back with the Flacman owing him $47 mil next year to play patty cake with Pita for a 4 yard gain on 3rd and 20. There is no God.

If I thought Flacco was going to play that type of foot ball (dump passes well short of the first down marker on 3rd and long) they would have been better to teach him how to pooch punt on third down and prevent a run back.

[Moderator 3]

38 minutes ago, manofsteel said:

Flacco needs to see these championship games and try to act like those QB.

You want him to play like Big Ben or Br*dy?  They both have sucked so far.  

[whobilly]

the Ravens might not be as sold on Flacco as people think

With the amount of guaranteed money they don't have a choice.

[whobilly]

  1 hour ago, Rav'n Maniac said:

A late round QB is nothing but a wasted pick imo. How many late round QB's have gone on to have even decent careers. There's Brady and Taylor but that is not the norm. If you are going to spend a pick on a QB it shouldn't be any later than the 4th round.

Tyrod Taylor was a 6th round pick if I'm not mistaken. Turned out to be a nice, solid and cheap backup for 5 years. And convinced at least Rex Ryan to hire him as a starter. I wouldn't say that is a complete waste of a pick. How many players from other positions have we drafted in 6th or 7th round who wound up starters? Unless you count Camp, who is injured more often than not, I can't name single one.

Darren Waller who catches an occasional pass and plays special teams and Sam Koch. That's it.

[zing21042]

timin is everything and we can't wait another year. we can have 5 high slot number one draft picks in three years by tradin flacco this year. teams will give us two number ones for him. clevland

a team does have to have two high quality qbs as newsom says but a team also needs a high quality draft man doin his job

We will owe Flacco $47 mil next year (dead money) if we trade him or if we let him go and he decides to sit at home and watch the Ravens on TV. "Guaranteed" money is guaranteed. Even if a player retires they are entitled to any money they were "guaranteed" in their contract.

Hell, we let Eugene Monroe go in June of 2016 and next year we will still owe him $4.4 million against the salary cap.

I will happily stand corrected if wrong; however, that is what I understand of the cap structure and the concept of dead money. If a player is guaranteed a set amount of money over the life of the contract, the guaranteed money (and only the guaranteed money) is payable when the contract is terminated. Flacco is guaranteed to receive $47 mil over the next 4 years...this is independent of his yearly salary.

[ravensnj]

Too many glaring holes to add a Qb in the draft, we must look through free agency.

[Chuckx999]

You want him to play like Big Ben or Br*dy? They both have sucked so far.

You can't be for real!

Do you know who the QB are going to be in the AFC championship game are going to be? They only have 6 Super Bowls wins between them.

Wake up!! Flacco is the one that sucks. All Ravens SB have been won by defence.

[bozo]

Too many glaring holes to add a Qb in the draft, we must look through free agency.

have to agree flacco is not a top qb. he only average and should be paid as average. wake up, if hes dissatisfied let him test free agency he'll never get close to what hes getting, hes is only one dementional longball and that's not accurate.

[rmcjacket23]

  2 hours ago, ravensnj said:

Too many glaring holes to add a Qb in the draft, we must look through free agency.

have to agree flacco is not a top qb. he only average and should be paid as average. wake up, if hes dissatisfied let him test free agency he'll never get close to what hes getting, hes is only one dementional longball and that's not accurate.

LOL, Brock Osweiler is getting $18M in FA and Kirk Cousins is probably about to make as much or more than Flacco.

If Joe were a FA today, he would get more than what the Ravens are paying him.