Updated: Greg Roman Sr. Offensive Asst. & TE Coach

[jazz1988]

18 minutes ago, PurpleCity5 said:

This is a good move. Really need to run the ball better. Roman runs a gap/power scheme so it could mean that Zuttah's days are numbered here. Think we can all draw up a conclusion that Zuttah isn't a good fit for that type of system. I think that means Lewis kicks out to RT and we sign a LG and draft a C. I might be overreacting but it wouldn't surprise me if we pulled those moves.

It look to me that The Ravens were already running a gap/power scheme but with Castillo being let go it makes me wonder what they have instore next. I know Mike Tice is supposedly available but have to wonder if they plan to bring in offensive line coach.

[Davesta]

27 minutes ago, Moderator 3 said:

You think he'll teach the TEs how to block?

Not with pitta starting.. 

[gtalk12]

8 minutes ago, Davesta said:

Not with pitta starting.. 

Maybe it's a sign he won't be starting anymore and to be honest I don't think he should because he can not block. We drafted Maxx way to high to keep him on the bench

[Ravensfan23]

32 minutes ago, PurpleCity5 said:

This is a good move. Really need to run the ball better. Roman runs a gap/power scheme so it could mean that Zuttah's days are numbered here. Think we can all draw up a conclusion that Zuttah isn't a good fit for that type of system. I think that means Lewis kicks out to RT and we sign a LG and draft a C. I might be overreacting but it wouldn't surprise me if we pulled those moves.

Sounds like the Ravens are set on having Stanley and Lewis on that left side. If I remember correctly I think they mentioned them two as a pair moving forward on the left side about 3 times and Mr. B even spoke about Lewis being comparable to KO. I think they have a great feeling about being able to keep Wagner and keeping Lewis at LG. 

I agree that Zuttah is done.

[Ravensfan23]

@rmw10 Does this addition give you any better feelings about the offense moving forward?

[JO_75]

So... this explains his position since Juan Castillo has just signed with the Bills.

[rmw10]

30 minutes ago, Ravensfan23 said:

@rmw10 Does this addition give you any better feelings about the offense moving forward?

I like it better for the run/pass ratio, but if we could get rid of those dumb screens and passes behind the LOS on 3rd down, I'd be golden.

[Swift 1]

1 hour ago, gtalk12 said:

Maybe it's a sign he won't be starting anymore and to be honest I don't think he should because he can not block. We drafted Maxx way to high to keep him on the bench

Isn't the guy who'can't block' the one that needs coaching how to block? We sure pay Pitta lots of money to not sit on the bench.

[GrimCoconut]

1 hour ago, PurpleCity5 said:

This is a good move. Really need to run the ball better. Roman runs a gap/power scheme so it could mean that Zuttah's days are numbered here. Think we can all draw up a conclusion that Zuttah isn't a good fit for that type of system. I think that means Lewis kicks out to RT and we sign a LG and draft a C. I might be overreacting but it wouldn't surprise me if we pulled those moves.

Zuttah is done from what I gathered unless they somehow think he's strong. They mentioned numerous times the need to get stronger on the OL and I think that was a dig towards Zuttah because you saw him in Joe's lap so much kids thought Flacco was Santa. 

1 hour ago, Ravensfan23 said:

Sounds like the Ravens are set on having Stanley and Lewis on that left side. If I remember correctly I think they mentioned them two as a pair moving forward on the left side about 3 times and Mr. B even spoke about Lewis being comparable to KO. I think they have a great feeling about being able to keep Wagner and keeping Lewis at LG. 

I agree that Zuttah is done.

Yep. I felt like it was a matter of time after the State of the Ravens. 

1 hour ago, JO_75 said:

So... this explains his position since Juan Castillo has just signed with the Bills.

Castillo is gone?

[Dubs]

6 minutes ago, GrimCoconut said:

Zuttah is done from what I gathered unless they somehow think he's strong. They mentioned numerous times the need to get stronger on the OL and I think that was a dig towards Zuttah because you saw him in Joe's lap so much kids thought Flacco was Santa. 

Yep. I felt like it was a matter of time after the State of the Ravens. 

Castillo is gone?

Yup in Buffalo now with McDermott--we have no OL coach right now...not sure who is on our radar. Obviously we would all love Dennison in such a position and I am sure he would be great for that position. Mike Tice's contract has expired with the Raiders, he would be an even better pickup imo, he sits in that rank of OL coaches of Callahan, Tom Cable, Scarnecchia, and Munchak who just really elevate the play of OL

[gtalk12]

17 minutes ago, Dubs said:

Yup in Buffalo now with McDermott--we have no OL coach right now...not sure who is on our radar. Obviously we would all love Dennison in such a position and I am sure he would be great for that position. Mike Tice's contract has expired with the Raiders, he would be an even better pickup imo, he sits in that rank of OL coaches of Callahan, Tom Cable, Scarnecchia, and Munchak who just really elevate the play of OL

 

I haven't heard that guys name is a LONG time

[JoeyFlex5]

I'm disappointed to hear Castillo is gone. He's done a hell of a job developing solid guys out of nothing

[rossihunter2]

7 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I'm disappointed to hear Castillo is gone. He's done a hell of a job developing solid guys out of nothing

I wonder if we're cleaning house or didn't know Castillo might leave, what with Todd Washington going as well 

[hn68wb4]

8 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I'm disappointed to hear Castillo is gone. He's done a hell of a job developing solid guys out of nothing

shh, you're not allowed to say that, he's the reason for all of our troubles darnit!

[cobrajet]

On 1/11/2017 at 3:58 PM, PurpleCity5 said:

We could build a great coaching staff if we managed to add Dennison. 

I would love to see him back a the QB coach.

[cobrajet]

9 hours ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Cant wait til next season when the offense is drastically improved... the run game is top 10, maybe top 5, and Flacco is incredibly efficient.

And all the people hating the decision to keep Marty are saying - See knew it all along, coming in mid-season is difficult for anyone. All he needed was an offseason, a good OL, and a focus on developing a run game! 

 

EDIT: Love getting negged for saying the Ravens will improve. People would rather be right, than have the Ravens be good.

I have to say I was upset when they announced Trestman was coming here and I was glad when he was let go. I am okay with Marty having a shot at getting this offense back on track and I am optimistic we will improve.

[allblackraven]

38 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I'm disappointed to hear Castillo is gone. He's done a hell of a job developing solid guys out of nothing

We're about to find out, aren't we?

[PurpleCity5]

2 hours ago, Ravensfan23 said:

Sounds like the Ravens are set on having Stanley and Lewis on that left side. If I remember correctly I think they mentioned them two as a pair moving forward on the left side about 3 times and Mr. B even spoke about Lewis being comparable to KO. I think they have a great feeling about being able to keep Wagner and keeping Lewis at LG. 

I agree that Zuttah is done.

I don't know about keeping Lewis at LG if they lose Wagner. I think they would go after a major upgrade at LG if they lose a top RT and shift Lewis to the right. I know that Steve and Co. mentioned Lewis as a LG but I would assume that's under the assumption that Wagner is at RT. 

I personally don't think beefing up the OL starts and ends with Zuttah. If you talking about a physical and demanding run game, then, I don't know if Lewis is a good fit in a gap/power screen given his footwork and leverage. We'll see how he improves over the off season but it's a question mark, at RT the feet will still be a problem but he could play with more leverage given the height. 

[hereweare]

7 minutes ago, PurpleCity5 said:

I don't know about keeping Lewis at LG if they lose Wagner. I think they would go after a major upgrade at LG if they lose a top RT and shift Lewis to the right. I know that Steve and Co. mentioned Lewis as a LG but I would assume that's under the assumption that Wagner is at RT. 

I personally don't think beefing up the OL starts and ends with Zuttah. If you talking about a physical and demanding run game, then, I don't know if Lewis is a good fit in a gap/power screen given his footwork and leverage. We'll see how he improves over the off season but it's a question mark, at RT the feet will still be a problem but he could play with more leverage given the height. 

" if Lewis can play RT than adding a FA guard that's better than Lewis at guard (would be huge). Just for arguments sake you could say that 2 above average guards significantly improve the OL rather than at RG and RT. ex. 2012 and 2014 had two very good guards and young average RTs. And before those seasons it was Grubbs and Yanda as above avg guards."

Glad to see I'm not the only one advacating this theory!

 

(depends how good they view Lewis can be at LG or RT)

Edited January 13 by hereweare

[rossihunter2]

2 hours ago, allblackraven said:

We're about to find out, aren't we?

It's annoying he left especially given how well Ronnie Stanley was playing down the stretch

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

2 hours ago, allblackraven said:

We're about to find out, aren't we?

Actually, in terms of development he was good. Sure there's James hurst, who was a lost cause anyway, but he took Ryan Jensen, a guy who went to a tiny university in Colorado that 97% of the people on here have never heard of and turned him into a very good backup guard. John urschel is viewed by some as a fringe starter(something I disagree with), and Alex Lewis didn't fare too poorly when he had to play LT. Oh and there's also a guy named Ronnie stanley who was a very good LT, as a rookie. Osemele developed into a beast, Wagner was a mid round pick who turned into a good player etc etc. Not his fault we didn't get a replacement for KO

 

This and Frazier bum me out lol

Edited January 13 by LosT_in_TranSlatioN

[allblackraven]

6 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

It's annoying he left especially given how well Ronnie Stanley was playing down the stretch

I don't think Stanley would struggle with any coach

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

1 minute ago, allblackraven said:

I don't think Stanley would struggle with any coach

He looked like a top 10 LT before his injury... as a rookie. And this is coming from a massive Ronnie Stanley fan, but that surprised even me.

 

Castillo has his work cut out for him as a guy in player development

[rossihunter2]

1 minute ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

He looked like a top 10 LT before his injury... as a rookie. And this is coming from a massive Ronnie Stanley fan, but that surprised even me.

 

Castillo has his work cut out for him as a guy in player development

Well after his injury he looked even better (give or take a couple of weeks)

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

If Roman has any say at all in the offensive gameplan... I love this move. Marty is too pass happy, Roman is too run happy. If they can find a way to balance it, plus improve the oline I'm all for this. Just don't let Roman be the OC. Please.

 

If this is like a co-offensive coordinator thing, this could actually work. 

[-Truth-]

10 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

I don't think Stanley would struggle with any coach

That's my thinking as well. Our OL had quite a bit of talent. I wouldn't give all the praise to the coaching there.

[Ravensfan23]

3 hours ago, PurpleCity5 said:

I don't know about keeping Lewis at LG if they lose Wagner. I think they would go after a major upgrade at LG if they lose a top RT and shift Lewis to the right. I know that Steve and Co. mentioned Lewis as a LG but I would assume that's under the assumption that Wagner is at RT. 

I personally don't think beefing up the OL starts and ends with Zuttah. If you talking about a physical and demanding run game, then, I don't know if Lewis is a good fit in a gap/power screen given his footwork and leverage. We'll see how he improves over the off season but it's a question mark, at RT the feet will still be a problem but he could play with more leverage given the height. 

 

3 hours ago, hereweare said:

" if Lewis can play RT than adding a FA guard that's better than Lewis at guard (would be huge). Just for arguments sake you could say that 2 above average guards significantly improve the OL rather than at RG and RT. ex. 2012 and 2014 had two very good guards and young average RTs. And before those seasons it was Grubbs and Yanda as above avg guards."

Glad to see I'm not the only one advacating this theory!

 

(depends how good they view Lewis can be at LG or RT)

I think the door becomes wide open if Wagner leaves, but the thing is, I don't think they feel Wagner will leave. I think the fact that they are kind of pigeonholing Lewis at LG this early in the process speaks to either how much they like Lewis at LG or the fact that they feel really confident in retaining Wagner. Remember Ozzie said much of the ground work is already done on these contracts and they've already been in contact with some of the agents. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Wagner is one of the first FA signing and he stays here. Now if Wagner does leave I can see Lewis at RT, but even then I wouldn't be surprised to see Lewis stay at LG. I think the Ravens really like him there. 

[The Raven]

Whatever. Change is change. Maybe we needed it. Fresh faces on the coaching staff may do us good

[PurpleCity5]

14 hours ago, Ravensfan23 said:

 

I think the door becomes wide open if Wagner leaves, but the thing is, I don't think they feel Wagner will leave. I think the fact that they are kind of pigeonholing Lewis at LG this early in the process speaks to either how much they like Lewis at LG or the fact that they feel really confident in retaining Wagner. Remember Ozzie said much of the ground work is already done on these contracts and they've already been in contact with some of the agents. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Wagner is one of the first FA signing and he stays here. Now if Wagner does leave I can see Lewis at RT, but even then I wouldn't be surprised to see Lewis stay at LG. I think the Ravens really like him there. 

Maybe that's the case but Wagner is 50-50 at the moment, you don't really know the market value. Plenty of times the Ravens have said they've been in contact with FAs who ended up leaving but obviously that's what you have to do with guys you need to retain, you just can't have no contact with them what so ever. Given the reports and how our Run D collapsed, I think the Ravens will do everything in their power to keep Brandon Williams first as a priority, with Wagner coming after. Of course that doesn't mean they can't keep both but it would surprise me if they did. 

I'm under the assumption that Wagner is staying at the moment because of the confidence, but at this moment it wouldn't surprise me if they let him go, I can see them going after someone at LG and move Lewis to RT. I said this in another thread but many of the great OLs in the league aren't particularly strong at RT, they're more built up at LT, Guard and Center. When the Ravens talk about getting more physical with the change at OL, it just somewhat means to me that they have more in mind than making the change at C. 
The Ravens are talking about building a power block scheme  with the addition of Roman and adding some maulers to this OL, I can't help but think that means they want to get more physical there. I think Alex Lewis can certainly play a physical role on the line going by his college tape but I'm not sure if its at LG due to the leverage. Of course this doesn't mean that Lewis can't change the way he plays but he'll have much more freedom to operate and less to improve at kicking out to RT. With that said, if they don't manage to keep Wagner or Williams, it would seriously surprise me if they didn't go hard after a  upper level FA LG in the mold of Lang or Leary. They would have to make upgrades there and the tackle class at FA isn't all that strong. 

Edited January 13 by PurpleCity5

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Odd that Roman has nothing with run game or OL in his title with Castillo now gone. We have an assistant OL coach but no OL coach. 

And we could've blocked the Castillo move if we wanted. It's a lateral move. Unless his contract was up. But either way it tells me we weren't bringing him back.