Updated: Greg Roman Sr. Offensive Asst. & TE Coach

[Ravenskid52752]

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I'm told Greg Roman may be accepting @ravens coaching offer but still working on finalizing details @sn_nfl

It's official 

https://mobile.twitter.com/RapSheet/status/819609124707168256

[redrum52]

Yay?  What position is he taking here?   Dont think I've heard what his title will be.

[ellicottraven]

I called it the minute John said he may add a QB coach. Roman is in his circle of influence. Truthfully John's circle of influence begins and ends with Jim Harbaugh.

[jazz1988]

1 minute ago, ellicottraven said:

I called it the minute John said he may add a QB coach. Roman is in his circle of influence. Truthfully John's circle of influence begins and ends with Jim Harbaugh.

Not entirely sure if Roman being added as the quarterback coach . He could be added as The Ravens assistant offensive line coach or run game specialist 

[ellicottraven]

Just now, jazz1988 said:

Not entirely sure if Roman being added as the quarterback coach . He could be added as The Ravens assistant offensive line coach or run game specialist 

Agreed, but we know what he's good at. Coaching running backs and quarterbacks too. Everywhere he's coached the running game has been highly ranked. SF, Buffalo come to mind.

[AnthonyGames]

I love this! helping Joe and the running game would be great. Just having him in the coaches room as another offensive mind when creating game plan is huge.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

1 hour ago, ellicottraven said:

Agreed, but we know what he's good at. Coaching running backs and quarterbacks too. Everywhere he's coached the running game has been highly ranked. SF, Buffalo come to mind.

Yea, i think hes gonna be an Assistant HC, run game coordinator... something like that. At least I hope.

I'd like to see them double down and convince either Musgrave or Dennison to come on board as QB Coach.

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

2 hours ago, jazz1988 said:

Not entirely sure if Roman being added as the quarterback coach . He could be added as The Ravens assistant offensive line coach or run game specialist 

Thats what I heard but as all of us on these boards know until it happens it is only rumor.

[jazz1988]

50 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Yea, i think hes gonna be an Assistant HC, run game coordinator... something like that. At least I hope.

I'd like to see them double down and convince either Musgrave or Dennison to come on board as QB Coach.

There's a chance that may not happen since The Browns want him to but i'm also interested in Musgrave and Dennsion. I also like former Vikings quarterback coach Scott Turner as a potential quarterback coach for The Ravens. Sam Bradford had a great season under his tutelage but not sure how well he would fit since  he isn't very knowledgeable when it comes to the west coast offense .

[PurpleCity5]

We could build a great coaching staff if we managed to add Dennison. 

[Davesta]

I'm all for it. Help the run game anyway possible

[Deflated Football]

Say hello to your new OC when Marty is inevitably fired mid-season. Speaking of which, two of my close friends are 49er fans and they liked Roman, but said his offensive playcalls were really complicated with extra linemen and a lot of motions and their offense had a lot of delay of games. I'm not sure if this is good for Flacco (assuming Roman eventually is promoted). 

Edited January 11 by Deflated Football

[RaineV1]

6 hours ago, Deflated Football said:

Say hello to your new OC when Marty is inevitably fired mid-season. Speaking of which, two of my close friends are 49er fans and they liked Roman, but said his offensive playcalls were really complicated with extra linemen and a lot of motions and their offense had a lot of delay of games. I'm not sure if this is good for Flacco (assuming Roman eventually is promoted). 

Well, if that happens Flacco probably wouldn't have to deal with Roman for long. It'd likely mean another missed playoff and a new coaching staff after the season.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Cant wait til next season when the offense is drastically improved... the run game is top 10, maybe top 5, and Flacco is incredibly efficient.

And all the people hating the decision to keep Marty are saying - See knew it all along, coming in mid-season is difficult for anyone. All he needed was an offseason, a good OL, and a focus on developing a run game! 

 

EDIT: Love getting negged for saying the Ravens will improve. People would rather be right, than have the Ravens be good.

Edited January 12 by BOLDnPurPnBlacK

[JO_75]

3 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

According to Adam Schefter - its official. Greg Roman is a Raven.

Interesting. Wonder what he will ultimately do, hopefully whatever he does it helps us get back to the playoffs.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

 

[January J]

1 hour ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Cant wait til next season when the offense is drastically improved... the run game is top 10, maybe top 5, and Flacco is incredibly efficient.

And all the people hating the decision to keep Marty are saying - See knew it all along, coming in mid-season is difficult for anyone. All he needed was an offseason, a good OL, and a focus on developing a run game! 

 

EDIT: Love getting negged for saying the Ravens will improve. People would rather be right, than have the Ravens be good.

So true.

[rmw10]

I'm actually quite shocked how much we've gotten away from zone blocking with it's overwhelming success during Kubiak's tenure.  Maybe they felt Kubiak was the only one who could run it well or something, but it seems weird that we've moved so far away.  I think Roman's eventual hire could push us a little bit back towards the ZBS, although not entirely.  If there's one thing that Roman does exceedingly well, it's using multiple principles/systems that fit best with the backs he has.  You'll see a mix of everything with him, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.  His play calling may be suspect but he's done wonders with the run game.  My only concern would be having too many cooks in the kitchen once again.  We had that issues several years back with Castillo, Moeller, and Caldwell.

[rmcjacket23]

Just now, rmw10 said:

I'm actually quite shocked how much we've gotten away from zone blocking with it's overwhelming success during Kubiak's tenure.  Maybe they felt Kubiak was the only one who could run it well or something, but it seems weird that we've moved so far away.  I think Roman's eventual hire could push us a little bit back towards the ZBS, although not entirely.  If there's one thing that Roman does exceedingly well, it's using multiple principles/systems that fit best with the backs he has.  You'll see a mix of everything with him, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.  His play calling may be suspect but he's done wonders with the run game.  My only concern would be having too many cooks in the kitchen once again.  We had that issues several years back with Castillo, Moeller, and Caldwell.

That and the fact that you can't really cut block the way we used to be able to, specifically in Kubiak's scheme. 

 

[rmw10]

2 minutes ago, rmcjacket23 said:

That and the fact that you can't really cut block the way we used to be able to, specifically in Kubiak's scheme. 

 

That's a fair point as well.  Regardless, still seems odd just how far we've gotten away from it.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

7 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

I'm actually quite shocked how much we've gotten away from zone blocking with it's overwhelming success during Kubiak's tenure.  Maybe they felt Kubiak was the only one who could run it well or something, but it seems weird that we've moved so far away.  I think Roman's eventual hire could push us a little bit back towards the ZBS, although not entirely.  If there's one thing that Roman does exceedingly well, it's using multiple principles/systems that fit best with the backs he has.  You'll see a mix of everything with him, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.  His play calling may be suspect but he's done wonders with the run game.  My only concern would be having too many cooks in the kitchen once again.  We had that issues several years back with Castillo, Moeller, and Caldwell.

I think part of the problem may be personnel too. With Monroe, KO, Zuttah, Yanda, Wagner - you had all athletic guys with good foot work who could pull, get to the edge, etc... KO and Yanda are more maulers, but are technically proficient enough to do anything and be successful.

Now, with Stanley not being a great run blocker yet, Lewis who's a little more heavy footed and not as mobile, and then rotation of guys like Hurst, Jensen, etc... having to be relied on I think it makes zone blocking more difficult. I dont know this to be fact, just an opinion - seems like its more of a group effort that requires precision and a group orchestrated execution.

With all the rotation bc of injuries combined with some personnel that werent great fits - i think getting away from it was a last ditch effort to improve... by simplifying it and asking guys to just block the guy in front of you.

May be an oversimplification, but i wouldnt be surprised if that played a part.

[GrimCoconut]

1 hour ago, rmcjacket23 said:

That and the fact that you can't really cut block the way we used to be able to, specifically in Kubiak's scheme. 

 

 

1 hour ago, rmw10 said:

That's a fair point as well.  Regardless, still seems odd just how far we've gotten away from it.

I think this is the answer honestly because not even Kubiak looked as successful with his OL in Denver but it was surprisingly decent the year before the rule with lesser talent IMO. 

[PurpleCity5]

1 hour ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

I think part of the problem may be personnel too. With Monroe, KO, Zuttah, Yanda, Wagner - you had all athletic guys with good foot work who could pull, get to the edge, etc... KO and Yanda are more maulers, but are technically proficient enough to do anything and be successful.

Now, with Stanley not being a great run blocker yet, Lewis who's a little more heavy footed and not as mobile, and then rotation of guys like Hurst, Jensen, etc... having to be relied on I think it makes zone blocking more difficult. I dont know this to be fact, just an opinion - seems like its more of a group effort that requires precision and a group orchestrated execution.

With all the rotation bc of injuries combined with some personnel that werent great fits - i think getting away from it was a last ditch effort to improve... by simplifying it and asking guys to just block the guy in front of you.

May be an oversimplification, but i wouldnt be surprised if that played a part.

I think you're right, but ZBS fits more of the mold of guys like Zuttah, Wagner, Lewis and Stanley who aren't guys who play with the most leverage but athletic and well footed. Lewis is a guy who at 6'6 plays a bit high at times and struggles with leverage because of his height so it could explain why he had trouble run blocking but was pretty damn good as a pass blocker. 

We had injuries in 2014 with the left side that forced Hurst and Urschel in and we ran the ball pretty well, towards the end of the season we lost Monroe and Wagner to injuries and filled in Urschel and Hurst and ran the ball very well. I think what the Ravens need is another mauler, someone nasty if they want to run the power run scheme. I think Kubiak did a great job given the circumstances. 

Yanda did say that the Ravens mixed it up a bit, but I too was surprised at the disappearance of ZBS.

I think the Ravens want to move in the direction of a gap/man block scheme. I think the team is going to demand more maulers so that's probably why they want to change the OL style, which could lead to letting go of Wagner. 

[The Raven]

Quick note: We stuck with the zone, but we transitioned to using more tight zone than wide zone. Why? I don't know. Tight requires a quality center. Wide is harder to run now with out cut blocking, but it would have worked better with our personnel, except Alex Lewis, who isn't the most nimble guy.

When Greg Roman was with the 49ers, it was primarily gap and power. Possibly because Frank Gore was a better fit for that than zone.

[rmw10]

 

[AsianRice]

5 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

 

so it's just dummy title position given to him until he is handed an official OC position in week 4.........

[rmw10]

This makes a little more sense.  Hensley didn't word it well.

 

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

5 hours ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

Cant wait til next season when the offense is drastically improved... the run game is top 10, maybe top 5, and Flacco is incredibly efficient.

And all the people hating the decision to keep Marty are saying - See knew it all along, coming in mid-season is difficult for anyone. All he needed was an offseason, a good OL, and a focus on developing a run game! 

 

EDIT: Love getting negged for saying the Ravens will improve. People would rather be right, than have the Ravens be good.

I agree with your post and I really hope your right and the Ravens really improve I love my Ravens. That being said I will not tell my self fibs. We do need some serious improvement across the whole team. from coaches play calling to QB play and all the way to special teams play.
 I am all for giving Marty a true chance. However as we both know a lot of this falls on Oz and his staffs shoulders as far as players to keep, draft and bring in to the Raven family. This team showed some flashes but at the same time they need some serious work and losing a leader like SSS is a BIG BIG BIG hole to fill.

4 hours ago, January J said:

So true.

I agree too it is a true statement that @BOLDnPurPnBlacK made

[Moderator 3]

31 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

This makes a little more sense.  Hensley didn't word it well.

 

You think he'll teach the TEs how to block?

[PurpleCity5]

This is a good move. Really need to run the ball better. Roman runs a gap/power scheme so it could mean that Zuttah's days are numbered here. Think we can all draw up a conclusion that Zuttah isn't a good fit for that type of system. I think that means Lewis kicks out to RT and we sign a LG and draft a C. I might be overreacting but it wouldn't surprise me if we pulled those moves.