Ravensnation5220 mock draft

[ravensnation5220]

ROUND 1- Charles harris OLB Missouri 

 

This one was tough. I have a feeling were trying to keep teams from thinking were taking a pass rusher from the state of ravens address today. So I tried to be realistic here. I was torn between him and takk however i feel we need a player who can make an INSTANT impact on the team, takk has talent and i would t mind takimg him here however i dont think he will be ready year 1 to make an imediate impact. I either don't think Tim Williams will be here and if he is I dont think we will take a chance on him. Not when you have a guy like Harris or Takk who don't have any character concerns He's not a complete pass rusher like Harris. Harris has a great first step, the ABILITY to bend, and has several good pass rush moves to his arsenal including a devastating spin move. Suggs can reach him a little about run defense

 

ROUND 2- Jourdan Lewis CB Michigan

https://youtu.be/yhHIVaPRnUo

 

Great cover corner. Mirrors better than anyone in the country and is willing to get physical in run support. A+ athlete with the ability to return kickoffs maybe even punts. Him and tavon young can be out future in the secondary and dont be too worried about size. Size doesn't mean everything, it's how big you play that matters

ROUND 3- JAY Guillermo C Clemson

 

https://youtu.be/o5uMiAEwt5Q

Sorry only tape I could find

Really stood out the last 2 weeks against some of the most athletic fronts in the country and more than held his own. Great run blocker and should be an upgrade over zuttah

 

ROUND 3- Chris Godwin WR Penn st

 

https://youtu.be/dHCwL5J8jyM

 

When harbaugh talked about getting another complementary receiver this guy declared nearly at the same time so I had to dig into his tape. He looks like exactly what we need. He's a great possession receiver and knows how to go up and get the ball. Better athlete than given credit for. Another option I like at receiver here would be Taywan Taylor from WKU or copper kupp but I think kupp will be gone by now.

ROUND 4- Will Hernandez OG UTEP

I couldn't find any tape on him but I've heard very good things about him. Ive heard good things from him according to SI and he's graded as the best run blocker according to PFF. It might be too early for him but if we really want to fix our oline and want to be able to run the ball consistently again we have to take this kid into consideration.

Rounds 5-7 I have no idea at this point lol but I know I do want to take Taylor Reynolds CB out of JMU at some point maybe as an undrafted FA i think this kid has a shot to play in the pros. After all JMU did win the FCS national championship. 

 I tried to be as realistic as possible and I didn't take into account any free agent moves. Let me know what you guys think!

 

 

[BmoreBird22]

Matt Miller has Guillermo as his 10th best center as of a month ago. I'd be very curious to see how that's changed in the last month, especially after two very strong playoff games.

However, I really love the idea of getting Harris/Lewis.

I think my favorite round one combo at the moment is Jones/Lawson, but flipping those two would be totally fine with me, although, I'm extremely high on Tankersley and White and might rather have them over Lewis.

[ravensnation5220]

8 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Matt Miller has Guillermo as his 10th best center as of a month ago. I'd be very curious to see how that's changed in the last month, especially after two very strong playoff games.

However, I really love the idea of getting Harris/Lewis.

I think my favorite round one combo at the moment is Jones/Lawson, but flipping those two would be totally fine with me, although, I'm extremely high on Tankersley and White and might rather have them over Lewis.

Ya I'd prefer tank as well but i don't think he'll be there with our second pick. I chose Lewis over white because

 1) Lewis is more physical or tries to be and is better in run support

2) i think he's better coached and has the harbaugh connection

 

 

Edited January 11 by ravensnation5220

[BmoreBird22]

Just now, ravensnation5220 said:

Ya I'd prefer tank as well but i don't think he'll be there with our second pick. I chose Lewis over white because

 a) Lewis is more physical or tries to be and is better in run support

i think he's better coached and has the harbaugh connection

I just think White is up there as one of the better corners at mirroring his man. Just really like him as a cover corner.

But yes, the Harbaugh connection is probably a really huge deal. Insider information is really valuable.

[ravensnation5220]

3 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I just think White is up there as one of the better corners at mirroring his man. Just really like him as a cover corner.

But yes, the Harbaugh connection is probably a really huge deal. Insider information is really valuable.

I'm just very wary of white. Idk I watched a lot of film and never really baught into him

[rossihunter2]

I dunno I just feel like 16 is too early for Harris (and way too early for takk), Godwin in the 3rd and Guillermo is nice though

[ravensnation5220]

5 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

I dunno I just feel like 16 is too early for Harris (and way too early for takk), Godwin in the 3rd and Guillermo is nice though

Who would you have picked before him? 

[rossihunter2]

30 minutes ago, ravensnation5220 said:

Who would you have picked before him? 

I don't know who was on the board still so it's hard to say - but one of the corners maybe - I'm assuming the top 3 edge guys, the safeties and Mike Williams were all gone?

[RavensDieHard21]

2 hours ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Matt Miller has Guillermo as his 10th best center as of a month ago. I'd be very curious to see how that's changed in the last month, especially after two very strong playoff games.

However, I really love the idea of getting Harris/Lewis.

I think my favorite round one combo at the moment is Jones/Lawson, but flipping those two would be totally fine with me, although, I'm extremely high on Tankersley and White and might rather have them over Lewis.

I think Guillermo is top 5 easily now. He looked like a mauler out there and handles blitzes up the middle well and even held his own against Allen on some plays. He looked dominant against Ohio as well. I also like Fuller from Baylor to be there at our third as well.

[RavensDieHard21]

40 minutes ago, ravensnation5220 said:

Who would you have picked before him? 

I would have taken Sidney jones only because I think he is the best in the class. 

[ravensnation5220]

29 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

I don't know who was on the board still so it's hard to say - but one of the corners maybe - I'm assuming the top 3 edge guys, the safeties and Mike Williams were all gone?

Well tim Williams could still be there, peppers, and whchever corner wasn't the top ranked corner which is anyone's guess at this point lol. Cook is still here however 

Edited January 11 by ravensnation5220

[ravensnation5220]

21 minutes ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

I would have taken Sidney jones only because I think he is the best in the class. 

 I need to see his long speed before I can rank him as my top CB 

[rossihunter2]

3 hours ago, ravensnation5220 said:

Well tim Williams could still be there, peppers, and whchever corner wasn't the top ranked corner which is anyone's guess at this point lol. Cook is still here however 

in which case I'd take tim williams over charles harris

[ravensnation5220]

8 hours ago, rossihunter2 said:

in which case I'd take tim williams over charles harris

I'm not sure the ravens will. Williams is more raw and has character concerns. Not sure how serious but if he falls to 16 there has to be some issues you need to check out. I'm sure Ozzie would get the inside scoop but the ravens would prefer a player who has no issues like they chose Stanley over tunsil last season 

[rossihunter2]

2 minutes ago, ravensnation5220 said:

I'm not sure the ravens will. Williams is more raw and has character concerns. Not sure how serious but if he falls to 16 there has to be some issues you need to check out. I'm sure Ozzie would get the inside scoop but the ravens would prefer a player who has no issues like they chose Stanley over tunsil last season 

i think bisciotti was asked about this yesterday - only domestic violence is a no-no - everything else is going to be case by case - and by the sounds of it, tim williams "character concerns" arent really concerns - it was a simple misunderstanding or so it sounds which i dont think drops him down anyone's board unless he has a terrible interview - i think he's the better prospect than charles harris who is good but not good at 16 - now if you were to say we traded back into the 20s and picked up charles harris id be ok with that but at 16 that's too rich for my taste whereas i think tim williams is value there

[ravensnation5220]

1 hour ago, rossihunter2 said:

i think bisciotti was asked about this yesterday - only domestic violence is a no-no - everything else is going to be case by case - and by the sounds of it, tim williams "character concerns" arent really concerns - it was a simple misunderstanding or so it sounds which i dont think drops him down anyone's board unless he has a terrible interview - i think he's the better prospect than charles harris who is good but not good at 16 - now if you were to say we traded back into the 20s and picked up charles harris id be ok with that but at 16 that's too rich for my taste whereas i think tim williams is value there

From what I've seen, I don't think Williams will interview well. I wouldn't say Tim is that much better than Harris. They both fall around the same range, so I'll take the player that for a fact has no problems vs the player who MAY have problems.

I understand the incident with Williams may have been a misunderstanding yet it was still a poor decision. Ozzie also looks for kids who excel in the classroom and from what I've heard from Williams it doesn't seem like he does. Meanwhile Harris is majoring in biology, I believe he said exercise science or health science

[rossihunter2]

3 hours ago, ravensnation5220 said:

From what I've seen, I don't think Williams will interview well. I wouldn't say Tim is that much better than Harris. They both fall around the same range, so I'll take the player that for a fact has no problems vs the player who MAY have problems.

I understand the incident with Williams may have been a misunderstanding yet it was still a poor decision. Ozzie also looks for kids who excel in the classroom and from what I've heard from Williams it doesn't seem like he does. Meanwhile Harris is majoring in biology, I believe he said exercise science or health science

I guess we differ - obviously if I thought they were close as prospects Harris would be above Tim Williams on my board but I am apparently much higher than you are on Williams

[ravensnation5220]

2 hours ago, rossihunter2 said:

I guess we differ - obviously if I thought they were close as prospects Harris would be above Tim Williams on my board but I am apparently much higher than you are on Williams

That's what makes this draft process so great

[rossihunter2]

2 hours ago, ravensnation5220 said:

That's what makes this draft process so great

Especially this early in the process - it's why I love being a Ravens fan on these boards - there are a lot of intelligent people (albeit some trolls and idiots too) who sharpen each other - I wouldn't be able to properly soundboard all these prospects on my own and have an informed opinion - healthy debate is really helpful in the evaluation process - just once I want to imagine that if you brought together some members of this board and gave them all the resources they needed they could do alright at building an NFL-acceptable big board - I'd just like to see if it would work

[ravensnation5220]

2 hours ago, rossihunter2 said:

Especially this early in the process - it's why I love being a Ravens fan on these boards - there are a lot of intelligent people (albeit some trolls and idiots too) who sharpen each other - I wouldn't be able to properly soundboard all these prospects on my own and have an informed opinion - healthy debate is really helpful in the evaluation process - just once I want to imagine that if you brought together some members of this board and gave them all the resources they needed they could do alright at building an NFL-acceptable big board - I'd just like to see if it would work

Ya I agree. We all have respect for each other's opinions and that's something I appreciate from everyone here. We all keep an open mind to other's opinions and It helps everyone get a better understanding of prospects or just ravens news. It makes me happy to be a ravens fan especially seeing other teams message boards lol. 

[January J]

I'd be very pleased with a draft like this. Solid.

[Wildabeast88]

On January 10, 2017 at 9:46 PM, BmoreBird22 said:

Matt Miller has Guillermo as his 10th best center as of a month ago. I'd be very curious to see how that's changed in the last month, especially after two very strong playoff games.

However, I really love the idea of getting Harris/Lewis.

I think my favorite round one combo at the moment is Jones/Lawson, but flipping those two would be totally fine with me, although, I'm extremely high on Tankersley and White and might rather have them over Lewis.

Sign me up. I think it's a good draft I think I prefer Lewis but Clemson has been putting out CBs like crazy lately. 

[RavensDieHard21]

So many combo can be had in the first two rounds. I'm just hoping either elite rusher and good corner or elite corner and very solid rusher, unless someone like Jamal Adams, Fournette or Mike Williams was magically there.

[ravensnation5220]

1 hour ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

So many combo can be had in the first two rounds. I'm just hoping either elite rusher and good corner or elite corner and very solid rusher, unless someone like Jamal Adams, Fournette or Mike Williams was magically there.

I would include cook, Davis and hooker to that list 

[rossihunter2]

12 minutes ago, ravensnation5220 said:

I would include cook, Davis and hooker to that list 

Davis (maybe my minds blanking)? Also imagine if Barnett fell?

[ravensnation5220]

6 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

Davis (maybe my minds blanking)? Also imagine if Barnett fell?

Corey Davis WR Western Michigan.

I think Barnett is our dream cenario. It is possible, if Barnett doesn't have great combine numbers, which he probably wont, could slip a little especially since Takk McKinley will have a great combine and could possibly surpass Barnett based on his athleticism and prototypical size for the position. Barnett doesn't have the ideal body for an edge guy so it is possible he could fall. 

[mazlak315]

If barnett or jamal adams somehow fell to us that would open up so many better scenarios for our 2nd and 2-3rds

its so hard to know first rd at this point, i spend more time looking for mid round guys (where ravens draft really well anyways)

awuzie, sutton, moton, godwin, etta tawo, willis, johnson, basham...and so on

1 - Jamal Adams (not likely based on current projections, but i do think very possible come draft day)

2 - Ryan Anderson

3 - Chidobe Azuwie

3 - Taylor Moton

4 - Chris Godwin

5 - Dorian Johnson