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Thank you, Steve Bisciotti (Reactions to Press Conference)

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29 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

Virtually no teams picked up stars in 2013 draft - it was historically bad as an overall draft - so bad that tavon Austin would still go in the middle of the 1st round in a redraft - in Brandon Williams and Ricky Wagner we got at least 2 players out of the top 32 which is pretty good going considering neither of our top two picks did anything

Agree. If we look at the 2013 draft, Wagner and Williams probably go in round 1 or 2. It was a pretty bad draft class.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2013/draft.htm

Elam was a bust but he was pretty much a 2nd round draft pick. The jury is still out for 2015.

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Mr. Bisciotti if you read this page thank you for being a great owner.  If you could do me this one favor though.
Do not read any other threads on this board.  Some of the posts are REALLY embarrassing. 

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Can Bisciotti do the interviews after every game instead of Harbaugh, please?!:lol: I'm not one for watching press conferences regardless of how short or long they are but I could sit there and watch him answer the media's questions all day long. Sometimes in sport people in authoritative positions are hesitant to direct their messages/answers to any one or group of people but this wasn't one of those occasions (and something tells me he's always like this) which makes it a very interesting watch. 

One of the many, many things that stood out to me from that press conference was the issue about raising ticket prices, in part because of the improvements being made at M&T Bank Stadium. Obviously the money has to come from somewhere to pay for it. It stuck with me because at Liverpool we went through this exact issue 11 months ago. One stand was being expanded and John W. Henry was thinking of expanding the Anfield Road End (such a poor stand in comparison to the stature of the club and the new upgrades) but to expand the A.R.E. he said they'd have to significantly increase the price of tickets. They eventually backed down on the increased ticket prices after numerous protests from fans which included walking out in the 77th minute of a game or two. Things like this are a very sensitive subject in England as clubs benefit greatly from the obscene amounts of money they make through ticket sales every season.

How is this type of issue thought of on your side of the pond? Apologies for going off topic a bit, was using it to make a comparison.

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7 hours ago, rossihunter2 said:

tyreek hill and marcus peters are two different situations - if marcus peters was still on the board at our pick we definitely would have picked him (his character concern was about authority etc. with his coaches - which isnt ideal but also isnt criminal in any way)

tyreek hill had domestic violence in his past which is a crime that we as an organisation have zero tolerance towards and i agree we should and will back this organisation down to the ground with regards to that position on domestic violence - his qualities as a player do not with justify his crime

i 100% support the ravens' zero tolerance policy towards domestic violence in light of the ray rice incident so i have no regrets over not taking tyreek hill - i wish him and the chiefs well but wouldnt want him on our team

Yeah, it would be highly hypocritical of the team to get rid of Ray Rice but then go and draft somebody with the same issue. I seriously respect the NFL in the way it deals with issues like this because in other sports like 'soccer' they're too scared to get rid of the player (if it's a high profile player) because of the value they bring to the team but sometimes the crime is so much bigger than the team and it has to be dealt with. 

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On 1/10/2017 at 2:47 PM, Moderator 3 said:

If you didn't catch the press conference, please make sure you do when you can.  I truly enjoyed the explanation for his decisions and loved hearing his passion for the game.

Agreed. He is a calming and clear thinking influence even for the most rabid fans!;)

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1 hour ago, mc_red23 said:

Yeah, it would be highly hypocritical of the team to get rid of Ray Rice but then go and draft somebody with the same issue. I seriously respect the NFL in the way it deals with issues like this because in other sports like 'soccer' they're too scared to get rid of the player (if it's a high profile player) because of the value they bring to the team but sometimes the crime is so much bigger than the team and it has to be dealt with. 

To be fair I don't think the NFL has dealt with issues like this particularly well either 

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18 hours ago, Davesta said:

Anyone else annoyed with how coach harbaugh answers his questions? Maybe I'm just fed up lol

yep, just feels hollow and he doesnt seem to sure of himself - not exactly coming out on the front foot, seems defensive

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Man we've got a great owner. Only wish I couid work for a guy like that. Id come into work everyday excited just to be a part of such a great staff and organization.

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12 hours ago, rossihunter2 said:

To be fair I don't think the NFL has dealt with issues like this particularly well either 

Yeah I think The Ravens and maybe Patriots are probably the only two teams that take those situations seriously

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18 minutes ago, jazz1988 said:

Yeah I think The Ravens and maybe Patriots are probably the only two teams that take those situations seriously

And again being fair, the Ravens didn't deal with it particularly well at the time - im proud of what we've done in the aftermath but at the time it wasn't dealt with amazingly at all

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19 minutes ago, jazz1988 said:

Yeah I think The Ravens and maybe Patriots are probably the only two teams that take those situations seriously

Maybe now but after the ray rice don't deserve any kind of credit at all in the handling of those situations 

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17 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

Agreed. He is a calming and clear thinking influence even for the most rabid fans!;)

Absolutely makes you feel better about why things are the way that they are... and why keeping some things that way makes sense.

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Now, we know why so many HCs who want to revive their career by coming to Baltimore first.......\

 

I can't seem to find any billionaire owner who is so calm, truthful, respectful, caring, and articulate like Mr Bisciotti......

 

PS: At least, I'm optimistic about the next season......

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22 hours ago, K-Dog said:

Mr. Bisciotti if you read this page thank you for being a great owner.  If you could do me this one favor though.
Do not read any other threads on this board.  Some of the posts are REALLY embarrassing. 

I would wish that stevie b find a way to be proactive to his problems and not reactive. the best business plans in the world don't always work out and failing to act can be more damaging due to the delays in correction than attempting correction "prematurely" . (3 out of 4 seasons out), all of our problems now lay squarely at stevie b's feet. he is their author and he owns them. he has squarely set us on the "stay the course" program. it is his  

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27 minutes ago, RayRayRaven said:

I would wish that stevie b find a way to be proactive to his problems and not reactive. the best business plans in the world don't always work out and failing to act can be more damaging due to the delays in correction than attempting correction "prematurely" . (3 out of 4 seasons out), all of our problems now lay squarely at stevie b's feet. he is their author and he owns them. he has squarely set us on the "stay the course" program. it is his  

yeah, no wonder he has been such a failure.  B)  

Wake up and smell the coffee ray ray.

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9 minutes ago, Tank 92 said:

yeah, no wonder he has been such a failure.  B)  

Wake up and smell the coffee ray ray.

stevie b has a problem that has been developin and hes very tardy in fixin it. tardy aint the word, he still aint grappled with it. this wasn't a problem in 2008 or certainly not in 2009 but its been a problem for some time now and he's coastin.  we want stevie to get his game on befor it gets further away

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55 minutes ago, RayRayRaven said:

stevie b has a problem that has been developin and hes very tardy in fixin it. tardy aint the word, he still aint grappled with it. this wasn't a problem in 2008 or certainly not in 2009 but its been a problem for some time now and he's coastin.  we want stevie to get his game on befor it gets further away

There is a reason Steve is a billionaire business owner and you are not. 

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I think the fact that Baltimore is clamoring for that star running back now is evidence enough that Dallas was correct in their suspicions that we wanted Elliot in the draft.

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1 hour ago, RayRayRaven said:

stevie b has a problem that has been developin and hes very tardy in fixin it. tardy aint the word, he still aint grappled with it. this wasn't a problem in 2008 or certainly not in 2009 but its been a problem for some time now and he's coastin.  we want stevie to get his game on befor it gets further away

So this problem started and a couple of years later we won the Super-Bowl? Well sign me up for that "problem" long may it continue...

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4 hours ago, RayRayRaven said:

I would wish that stevie b find a way to be proactive to his problems and not reactive. the best business plans in the world don't always work out and failing to act can be more damaging due to the delays in correction than attempting correction "prematurely" . (3 out of 4 seasons out), all of our problems now lay squarely at stevie b's feet. he is their author and he owns them. he has squarely set us on the "stay the course" program. it is his  

This is just vague generalization. Acting too quickly to fix a minor problem can also set you back years and create bigger ones. 

You can say 3 out of 4 years like it's a linear thing. It's not. 

2013 took a step back. But then 2014 we contended for a SB again. 2015 was ravaged by injuries - can't really grade that year as a failure in coaching, management or ownership. Then 2016 we came up short but were still contending up until 1 minute left in week 16.

Man.... such a downtrodden failure of a franchise. 5 years ascending to a Super bowl... 1 year step back... right back in contention.... injury destroyed year.... and then right back to contending for playoffs. 

Were right there with teams like the Steelers (SB contender), Oakland, Giants, Miami, Houston, etc.... Playoff teams. 

Two teams outclassed us. Dallas and NE (and I wouldn't even say NE was that far ahead in a head to head matchup).

This isn't a blow it up and start over problem. Minor improvements and we're contending. 

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On ‎1‎/‎10‎/‎2017 at 5:44 PM, Ravenseconbeast said:

Saw it.  Only the best owner in the biz.  His message is clear.   I urge fans of the Ravens organization to check it out.   Going 3 out of 4 season with no playoffs is not an option and he made it VERY clear that he expects Flacco to play like a top tier QB next year.  

I hope Flacco prepares himself to the best of his ability offseason to get us back to get the Lombardi again.   Play like a top-tier elite QB.  We paid him, and we expect success.  No more complacent Brock Osweiler failure in Ravens town.  Lets see what Flacco can do and make the decision to address it asap.

I saw it too. Sorry! There's no way Joe can meet your expectations or the "best owner in the biz's" w/o some major changes to this team. Our O-line stunk again this year, our receivers were mediocre except for Smith and Pitta and our running game was, well, slightly less than good. Our RBs need to learn how to block blitzing LBs & Ss. Other than that and overhauling the defense everything is hunky dory. Keep your dream alive though 'cause that's all it is. I think you know better than to compare Joe to Brock Osweiler but it makes for good theater, doesn't it? Sounds like Joe got a promotion to me. Didn't Bisciotti invite him to the next pow wow in Jupiter? This is getting to be better than a daytime soap opera, "As the Ravens Turn." Harbaugh needs to coach better, Oz needs to draft better and Joe needs to play better. Thanks, Steve, O Master of the Obvious!  

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49 minutes ago, frozen joe flacco fan said:

I saw it too. Sorry! There's no way Joe can meet your expectations or the "best owner in the biz's" w/o some major changes to this team. Our O-line stunk again this year, our receivers were mediocre except for Smith and Pitta and our running game was, well, slightly less than good. Our RBs need to learn how to block blitzing LBs & Ss. Other than that and overhauling the defense everything is hunky dory. Keep your dream alive though 'cause that's all it is. I think you know better than to compare Joe to Brock Osweiler but it makes for good theater, doesn't it? Sounds like Joe got a promotion to me. Didn't Bisciotti invite him to the next pow wow in Jupiter? This is getting to be better than a daytime soap opera, "As the Ravens Turn." Harbaugh needs to coach better, Oz needs to draft better and Joe needs to play better. Thanks, Steve, O Master of the Obvious!  

Clearly that last part isn't so obvious since you seem to think it's all on Harbs and Oz. 

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On 1/12/2017 at 9:22 PM, lgcs27288 said:

I think the fact that Baltimore is clamoring for that star running back now is evidence enough that Dallas was correct in their suspicions that we wanted Elliot in the draft.

that wasnt the suspicion. our target was very obviously jalen ramsey, and their concern was jacksonville, no longer having a prospect they desired and sitting one spot ahead of where dallas would be, would trade back to another team looking to leapfrog dallas for zeke. and if im not mistaken there were reports that jax had a deal on the table for that exact scenario. 

also i didnt hear any clamoring for a star RB, i heard a clamoring for a strong running game and most specifically by the means of a great OL, and harbaughs desire for a RB was for a 3rd down guy who can take a dump off and make plays with it like ray rice did.

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i love these press conferences, steve comes out to speak once a year and everytime he is just captivating. he pulls no punches and is as transparent as they come, but he has too much sense to be a kneejerk kinda guy.

when the whole fanbase has their torch and pitchforks out, he basically says "i know how to do this, i know how to scan the whole situation and take all things into account, and i know you fans have no idea what that even means but its ok, you can holler and scream at me and blame me all you want because im not firing harbaugh and cutting flacco. one day you'll thank me because continuity brings success as ive learned from being an uber successful business owner and team owner". and its just brilliant. 

he scolds his closest companions in the most productive and positive way. when harbaugh is on as short a leash as he'll ever be, he says "i still got faith in you, keep your guys, run this team the way you always have, if it works out i had faith all along, and if it doesnt then im sorry but we have to part ways, youre my guy until you see yourself out"

how anyone can watch this press conference and misconstrue his words so badly is beyond me. the man speaks in black and white and even with smokescreens regarding the draft and free agency it isnt hard to understand exactly what message he is trying to send. his message is that you fans have to be patient and stop acting like a spoiled petulant child because youve had it so good for so long that you cant handle a little downtime.

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On 1/12/2017 at 7:42 PM, RayRayRaven said:

I would wish that stevie b find a way to be proactive to his problems and not reactive. the best business plans in the world don't always work out and failing to act can be more damaging due to the delays in correction than attempting correction "prematurely" . (3 out of 4 seasons out), all of our problems now lay squarely at stevie b's feet. he is their author and he owns them. he has squarely set us on the "stay the course" program. it is his  

 

I would like to point this out: the Steelers have been touted as a model franchise for 2+ decades running.  Everyone always talks about the late round draft gems they find and the smart decisions ownership makes regarding coaching and roster changes.  Since 2008, the Steelers have 1 Superbowl win, 1 other appearance, and 3 other playoff appearances during which they went 1-3, their only win coming against the playoff-inept Cincinnati Bengals.  Since 2008, we've made the playoffs 7 of 10 seasons, have won at least 1 playoff game in every playoff season, have won 1 Superbowl, and have finished with a losing record exactly 1 time.  We also made 2 other AFCCG appearances and had the second one a dropped pass away from being ours.  Unless you're the Patriots of the last 15 seasons, AFCCG trips are not so automatic.  Aaron Rodgers has only led his team to the NFCCG twice, and was pretty bad against Seattle in the loss.  The Giants seem to win a Superbowl when they make the playoffs but then miss the playoffs in every other year.  Of all the teams that have made the playoffs for longer consecutive streaks then our 5 in a row, only the Packers, Colts and Patriots did so after the year 2000, and unsurprisingly they all feature three of the top 10 quarterbacks to ever play the game.

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