Thank you, Steve Bisciotti (Reactions to Press Conference)

[Davesta]

Anyone else annoyed with how coach harbaugh answers his questions? Maybe I'm just fed up lol

[Edgar]

8 minutes ago, Davesta said:

Anyone else annoyed with how coach harbaugh answers his questions? Maybe I'm just fed up lol

Lately it sounds as if he's trying to convince himself. It sounds forced and I suspect that deep down he isn't nearly as certain about turning things around.

[ravensnation5220]

1 hour ago, Moderator 3 said:

Why, why, why, do people keep giving him clicks?

Lol idk why I still do. 

[Militant X 1]

Bisciotti is one smooth and cool cat!  I was so glad that the majority of the questions were directed towards him.  

I really enjoyed his being frank and direct in his responses about his being "bewildered" about the team; in reference to the Ravens getting away from their true "identity" (which is running ball) and how the defense collapsed those last few games. I loved how he called out a few players by name as well in reference to their need for improvement and how they performed poorly.  

I could have just listened to him alone the entire conference.  For me, there was really no need to hear from Ozzie or John.

[Militant X 1]

11 hours ago, Ravensfan23 said:

I think what Mr. B helped do was take fans inside the thinking of he and the team. I've put my respect for Mr. B as a business man on full display and he only make me respect him more. He sat in front of a group of reporters who seemed more interesting in finding out when someone would lose their job rather than finding out about the team in some cases and was as honest as you'll see from most owners. '

For him to paint that picture of what the team thought they'd get from Wright but didn't was great. I think sometimes as fans we think that every move the team makes should pan out and the reality is that sometimes you just miss. I love how he described the 2013 draft. Yes Ozzie missed on the 1st and 2nd round picks but that same drafted came away with the best NT and FB in the NFL and a top 10 RT who could easily develop into a top 5 guy. That's a pretty special draft for most people, but Ozzie has set such a standard and we the fans make sure to hold him to it. 

He didn't have to open up about the Boldin situation but he did and that little tidbit should help fans understand how sometimes tough decisions have to be made. I bring that up because I think that type of decision will come up this year with both Pitta and Doom, maybe even Webb as well. 

I love the way he spoke about how he loves his partners in Ozzie, Harbs and co and trust those guys. If running a NFL team is anything like running a business, it's rare to have a core group that absolutely loves working with each other but can also hold each other accountable for when things don't get done. The Ravens have a strong FO team and most teams hit a rough patch or two. The key is do you still trust those guys to get things right the ship. Mr. B talking about how the Ravens were basically a 21pt 4th quarter explosion by Pit away from the playoffs and how Harbs has never lost in the first round of the playoffs tells me he still trust Harbs to get the job done without a doubt. 

Lastly, because I can talk about Mr. B all day, but I like how he kept telling reporters how he doesn't really judge the performance of his partners based on wins and losses. It's more about what happened that caused those down years. Even though he wasn't happy about the 2015 season he basically chalked it up to injuries and he was honest to say that he thought the knee still bothered Joe this year. It's so much more I could talk about but I don't want to write a essay 

Bisciotti is the man!  I also appreciated how he called out players as well.  I absolutely enjoyed hearing what he had to say more than from Ozzie and John. 

[Club Sec. 217 Seat 2]

1 hour ago, nextgen_RavensFan said:

I loved the interview and hope his words hit home with the entire team. I like the idea of getting back to the run. We cannot survive long term on Joe's abilities. Focus on the run game and teach Joe to be a good game manager. The more he hands off the ball in the red zone the better off we will be. Keep the passing game to short to mid range.In short just act like Joe is Dilfer version #2 until he shows better decision making and works on accuracy. 

I really liked that Harb's was right there beside Steve while he spoke and could tell his leash just got a bit tighter. The only thing i did not like was the fact that it will be another wasted year in the draft. Drafting affects the team for years, why not at least look for other options as the view on talent has been tainted the last few years.

...and I do not like how YOU are just ASSUMING that this year's draft will be another waste...this notion that this organization cannot draft anymore is ridiculous.  They added about 5 or 6 big time contributors to the roster through this past draft or UDFA (Stanley, Lewis, Young, Dixon, Judon, Pierce) and another in Chris Moore who has some tremendous contributions to special teams.  Young and Pierce all season long graded out near the top of list of rookies and Stanley when he finally got healthy was one of the top left tackles in all of football over the last half of the season, yes all of football.  Do me a favor go back to the 2013 draft and look at alll the busts that came out of that first round along with M Elam.  It all adds up, have we missed on some of our higher picks, yes we have but so have alot of other great drafting organizations...but we have hit on a ton of 3-6 rounders that have become big time contributors

To say welp, here comes another wasted draft this year  because we didn't fire Ozzie Newsome, is very baltimoronical of you.  

[rmcjacket23]

12 hours ago, atomicfront said:

The first time they would have any leverage with Flacco is in the 2020 season.  If they cut Flacco before the 2020 season they would save 20 million dollars of cap space. If they cut Flacco before 2018 season they would lose 4 million of cap space and Flacco's cap hit would be 28 million.  Flacco's contract was just extended. 

Flacco is your quarterback the next 3 seasons whether you like it or not and he will be taken up a large portion of the team's cap. 

2019 would actually be the first year they have leverage, so two more seasons of him being locked in.

In 2019, he has a cap hit of $26.5M, with $16M in dead money. So you could save $10.5M against the cap by moving in prior to June 1st.

Would actually be $18.5M in cap savings if you moved on after June 1, but pushes $8M in dead money to 2020. I suppose if Joe played really bad the next couple years, you could draft a QB in the 2019 draft and then cut Joe after June 1st. 

Not likely any of this happens though.

[trevorsteadman]

36 minutes ago, Club Sec. 217 Seat 2 said:

...and I do not like how YOU are just ASSUMING that this year's draft will be another waste...this notion that this organization cannot draft anymore is ridiculous.  They added about 5 or 6 big time contributors to the roster through this past draft or UDFA (Stanley, Lewis, Young, Dixon, Judon, Pierce) and another in Chris Moore who has some tremendous contributions to special teams.  Young and Pierce all season long graded out near the top of list of rookies and Stanley when he finally got healthy was one of the top left tackles in all of football over the last half of the season, yes all of football.  Do me a favor go back to the 2013 draft and look at alll the busts that came out of that first round along with M Elam.  It all adds up, have we missed on some of our higher picks, yes we have but so have alot of other great drafting organizations...but we have hit on a ton of 3-6 rounders that have become big time contributors

To say welp, here comes another wasted draft this year  because we didn't fire Ozzie Newsome, is very baltimoronical of you.  

Well said.

[rossihunter2]

1 hour ago, Club Sec. 217 Seat 2 said:

Do me a favor go back to the 2013 draft and look at alll the busts that came out of that first round along with M Elam.  It all adds up

It's crazy that even in a redo, tavon Austin probably still goes in the 1st - it was such a talent poor year

[rossihunter2]

1 hour ago, Club Sec. 217 Seat 2 said:

To say welp, here comes another wasted draft this year  because we didn't fire Ozzie Newsome, is very baltimoronical of you.

Not to mention that Eric decosta runs the draft and has done for a while now - so getting rid of Ozzie would only change the sounding board and one guy in the room - the only way the draft board or how we draft changes is if we fire the entire scouting department as well

[mmcclend]

3 hours ago, Davesta said:

Anyone else annoyed with how coach harbaugh answers his questions? Maybe I'm just fed up lol

Lol yeah he seemed like he was spewing a bunch of crap he didn't even believe.

[JO_75]

21 hours ago, ravensnation5220 said:

I have a question however. Steve said any player with domestic violence in their background will not be drafted, and he used tyreek hill as an example (he punched and chocked his girlfriend fyi for those who think we should have taken him). Now does that include a player who had a domestic violence charge that was later dropped, because that's what happened to Dalvin Cook?

 I know that they said they look into each individual situation however they did state that they WILL NOT take a player with domestic violence 

Has Steve watched Chiefs games this year to see the impact he has made for them? I get we don't want a Greg Hardy/Ray Rice situation, and all the criticisms of taking a player with a domestic violence. Hill has been doing everything to become a better person and is letting his on the field play do the talking. At what point do you overlook it, or do more homework as the Chiefs say they did. Do we do enough research to say hey, this isn't going to be an issue going forward compared to this is too serious, we aren't drafting him. While I don't want a player with that background on the team and the bad publicity that comes with it, we have to dig deeper to truly understand whether it will come back to haunt us. 

Obviously the Chiefs did their homework in regards to Marcus Peters and Hill, apparently more homework than what we do. It seems we just take someone off the board without doing homework. The Chiefs visited Peters' family as part of their homework. Peters hasn't been a problem for them. Chiefs took 2 big risks that most teams wouldn't and it paid off. Where's our gamble?

Edited January 11 by JO_75

[rossihunter2]

8 minutes ago, JO_75 said:

Has Steve watched Chiefs games this year to see the impact he has made for them? I get we don't want a Greg Hardy/Ray Rice situation, and all the criticisms of taking a player with a domestic violence. Hill has been doing everything to become a better person and is letting his on the field play do the talking. At what point do you overlook it, or do more homework as the Chiefs say they did. Do we do enough research to say hey, this isn't going to be an issue going forward compared to this is too serious, we aren't drafting him. While I don't want a player with that background on the team and the bad publicity that comes with it, we have to dig deeper to truly understand whether it will come back to haunt us. 

Obviously the Chiefs did their homework in regards to Marcus Peters and Hill, apparently more homework than what we do. It seems we just take someone off the board without doing homework. The Chiefs visited Peters' family as part of their homework. Peters hasn't been a problem for them. Chiefs took 2 big risks that most teams wouldn't and it paid off. Where's our gamble?

tyreek hill and marcus peters are two different situations - if marcus peters was still on the board at our pick we definitely would have picked him (his character concern was about authority etc. with his coaches - which isnt ideal but also isnt criminal in any way)

tyreek hill had domestic violence in his past which is a crime that we as an organisation have zero tolerance towards and i agree we should and will back this organisation down to the ground with regards to that position on domestic violence - his qualities as a player do not with justify his crime

i 100% support the ravens' zero tolerance policy towards domestic violence in light of the ray rice incident so i have no regrets over not taking tyreek hill - i wish him and the chiefs well but wouldnt want him on our team

[VermontRaven]

3 hours ago, Club Sec. 217 Seat 2 said:

...and I do not like how YOU are just ASSUMING that this year's draft will be another waste...this notion that this organization cannot draft anymore is ridiculous.  They added about 5 or 6 big time contributors to the roster through this past draft or UDFA (Stanley, Lewis, Young, Dixon, Judon, Pierce) and another in Chris Moore who has some tremendous contributions to special teams.  Young and Pierce all season long graded out near the top of list of rookies and Stanley when he finally got healthy was one of the top left tackles in all of football over the last half of the season, yes all of football.  Do me a favor go back to the 2013 draft and look at alll the busts that came out of that first round along with M Elam.  It all adds up, have we missed on some of our higher picks, yes we have but so have alot of other great drafting organizations...but we have hit on a ton of 3-6 rounders that have become big time contributors

To say welp, here comes another wasted draft this year  because we didn't fire Ozzie Newsome, is very baltimoronical of you.  

Very well said!  Not to mention Kaufusi didn't even have a chance to play this year.  Who knows?  Maybe he turns out to be a really good player too. 

Ozzie is getting WAAAY too much criticism for what are basically 2 big busts--Elam and Arthur Brown.  Despite having a couple early round misses, Ozzie is awesome at finding quality players THROUGHOUT the draft.  I think that's where Ozzie excels.  He finds some gems in mid-late rounds and undrafted free agents (Lewis, Young, Dixon, Judon, and Pierce are all prime examples just from this year)

 

 

[Ravensfan23]

3 hours ago, Militant X 1 said:

Bisciotti is the man!  I also appreciated how he called out players as well.  I absolutely enjoyed hearing what he had to say more than from Ozzie and John. 

Yea they could have taken the day off

[atomicfront]

30 minutes ago, JO_75 said:

Has Steve watched Chiefs games this year to see the impact he has made for them? I get we don't want a Greg Hardy/Ray Rice situation, and all the criticisms of taking a player with a domestic violence. Hill has been doing everything to become a better person and is letting his on the field play do the talking. At what point do you overlook it, or do more homework as the Chiefs say they did. Do we do enough research to say hey, this isn't going to be an issue going forward compared to this is too serious, we aren't drafting him. While I don't want a player with that background on the team and the bad publicity that comes with it, we have to dig deeper to truly understand whether it will come back to haunt us. 

Obviously the Chiefs did their homework in regards to Marcus Peters and Hill, apparently more homework than what we do. It seems we just take someone off the board without doing homework. The Chiefs visited Peters' family as part of their homework. Peters hasn't been a problem for them. Chiefs took 2 big risks that most teams wouldn't and it paid off. Where's our gamble?

Hill wasn't drafted until the fifth round.  Seems like most teams passed on him.  He evidently choked his pregnant girlfriend.  I am glad we passed on him.  The team has standards of behavior you don't believe in that. But you don't own the team so you don't get to make those choices. No research is necessary the team has a policy not to get guys with domestic abuse in their backgrounds. He has it. So he isn't going to be on the Ravens. 

[ravensnation5220]

34 minutes ago, JO_75 said:

Has Steve watched Chiefs games this year to see the impact he has made for them? I get we don't want a Greg Hardy/Ray Rice situation, and all the criticisms of taking a player with a domestic violence. Hill has been doing everything to become a better person and is letting his on the field play do the talking. At what point do you overlook it, or do more homework as the Chiefs say they did. Do we do enough research to say hey, this isn't going to be an issue going forward compared to this is too serious, we aren't drafting him. While I don't want a player with that background on the team and the bad publicity that comes with it, we have to dig deeper to truly understand whether it will come back to haunt us. 

I don't think tyreek hill is worth that risk. He punched and chocked his gf and after Ray rice there's no way we take any chance with that. That would be a PR nightmare

[terrynjulia03]

Basically I took away, and what everyone has been saying anyway, is this is Harbs last stand. Firing everyone is bad for business but at some point you have to. They have another 8-8 season and miss the playoffs the entire staff is gone. 

[rossihunter2]

1 minute ago, terrynjulia03 said:

Basically I took away, and what everyone has been saying anyway, is this is Harbs last stand. Firing everyone is bad for business but at some point you have to. They have another 8-8 season and miss the playoffs the entire staff is gone. 

i didnt see it that way at all - i think bisciotti is still immensely happy with the front office - he feels that they did well - now harbaugh, yes but not the entire staff

i think at most we lose harbs and some of the offensive coaches next year and that's if they even go

[JonnyBaltimore]

20 minutes ago, VermontRaven said:

Very well said!  Not to mention Kaufusi didn't even have a chance to play this year.  Who knows?  Maybe he turns out to be a really good player too. 

Ozzie is getting WAAAY too much criticism for what are basically 2 big busts--Elam and Arthur Brown.  Despite having a couple early round misses, Ozzie is awesome at finding quality players THROUGHOUT the draft.  I think that's where Ozzie excels.  He finds some gems in mid-late rounds and undrafted free agents (Lewis, Young, Dixon, Judon, and Pierce are all prime examples just from this year)

 

 

Agree with this. Just go look at New England's draft history in recent years. 

Finding the late round gems is much more important than missing on a few early round picks. The reason is VALUE. First, the early round picks don't get paid as much any more and second, the later round picks get paid low. So if you succeed with some late round contributors, you get great performance for low pay but when you miss in the early rounds, you get low performance for reasonable pay. The risk/reward formula is in our favour.

I'd be more concerned if we missed in a Top 10 scenario, but we don't suck that bad regularly so that isn't a problem.

[PurpleCity5]

1 hour ago, VermontRaven said:

Very well said!  Not to mention Kaufusi didn't even have a chance to play this year.  Who knows?  Maybe he turns out to be a really good player too. 

Ozzie is getting WAAAY too much criticism for what are basically 2 big busts--Elam and Arthur Brown.  Despite having a couple early round misses, Ozzie is awesome at finding quality players THROUGHOUT the draft.  I think that's where Ozzie excels.  He finds some gems in mid-late rounds and undrafted free agents (Lewis, Young, Dixon, Judon, and Pierce are all prime examples just from this year)

 

 

Like Biscotti said, if you swapped Wagner and Williams with Elam and Brown then people would be praising Ozzie for finding great players in a historically awful draft. It was one of the worst in recent memory. We got a good RT and one of the best run stoppers in the league alongside Juice who is the best FB. I think he did a solid job. Did we miss out on some talent? Sure, but it was a pretty underwhelming draft and we weren't the only slip up. 

[JonnyBaltimore]

1 hour ago, PurpleCity5 said:

Like Biscotti said, if you swapped Wagner and Williams with Elam and Brown then people would be praising Ozzie for finding great players in a historically awful draft. It was one of the worst in recent memory. We got a good RT and one of the best run stoppers in the league alongside Juice who is the best FB. I think he did a solid job. Did we miss out on some talent? Sure, but it was a pretty underwhelming draft and we weren't the only slip up. 

Wagner was the last pick in Round 5 of the 2013 Draft.

So basically a 6th rounder.

Edited January 11 by JonnyBaltimore

[JonnyBaltimore]

1 hour ago, PurpleCity5 said:

Like Biscotti said, if you swapped Wagner and Williams with Elam and Brown then people would be praising Ozzie for finding great players in a historically awful draft. It was one of the worst in recent memory. We got a good RT and one of the best run stoppers in the league alongside Juice who is the best FB. I think he did a solid job. Did we miss out on some talent? Sure, but it was a pretty underwhelming draft and we weren't the only slip up. 

For whatever it is worth, we also selected John Simon in that draft class and only 8 players drafted that year have had more sacks than Simon since. haha

Edited January 11 by JonnyBaltimore

[RayRayRaven]

On ‎1‎/‎10‎/‎2017 at 5:52 PM, I AM LEGEND said:

 

 Thank you.

sure appears they are laying the groundwork to make flacco the 2018 scapegoater.  really now?  who has taken years to understand that you don't mess with flaccos chemistry, it sends him anxious?  who has not figured that out?  is it joe?

23 hours ago, Steve0x said:

But,,,, He didnt fire anybody!!! Why did he allow Harbaugh and Pees to stay. Lets face it,,Suppose the Pats played bad you think Bob Kraft would let things slide? No way he would!  

no he didn't fire nobody. it was a bunch of hooey and the only guy he talked expectation about was Joe. he put it all on joe. he said fans got the pitchforks out but stevie b says he do knot.  just don't get it, will a 7-9 year next year bring the "Playoffs ultimatum" for 2019. which year is the last year for the non Joe Flaccos? come on stevie b if one is not part of the cure one is part of the problem

On ‎1‎/‎10‎/‎2017 at 4:08 PM, cajmax said:

didn't like the idea of raising the ticket prices for season tickets!!!!

don't know why ozzie & decosta get another pass at drafting?

did anyone really talk about a dominant running game?

yah don't buy em

everyone gotz a pass cept joe

they kinda talked running game

here we go again.........they keep forstallin the correction......its taking far too many years.

[RayRayRaven]

2 hours ago, PurpleCity5 said:

Like Biscotti said, if you swapped Wagner and Williams with Elam and Brown then people would be praising Ozzie for finding great players in a historically awful draft. It was one of the worst in recent memory. We got a good RT and one of the best run stoppers in the league alongside Juice who is the best FB. I think he did a solid job. Did we miss out on some talent? Sure, but it was a pretty underwhelming draft and we weren't the only slip up. 

its smoke and mirrors, wagner and Williams are useful contributors  nothing more they are not the type of player you pay to keep. the 'we drafted ok late" exuse was lame. if they were bona fide stars but they are not

[RayRayRaven]

4 hours ago, JO_75 said:

 

Obviously the Chiefs did their homework in regards to Marcus Peters and Hill, apparently more homework than what we do. It seems we just take someone off the board without doing homework. The Chiefs visited Peters' family as part of their homework. Peters hasn't been a problem for them. Chiefs took 2 big risks that most teams wouldn't and it paid off. Where's our gamble?

we don't draft well now. we lose it in the player vs player comparison. 

just cant believe we are standing pat........maybe they intend to rehire kubiak.....lol

[rossihunter2]

6 minutes ago, RayRayRaven said:

we don't draft well now. we lose it in the player vs player comparison. 

just cant believe we are standing pat........maybe they intend to rehire kubiak.....lol

This is a bogus narrative people are trying to push - we never had a shot at drafting Marcus peters because he was taken before our pick

and Tyreek hill was done for domestic violence which we as an organisation should have no part in - and most teams agreed given that such a talented player fell to the 5th round

and to which teams player vs player did we do worse than this year?

[rossihunter2]

13 minutes ago, RayRayRaven said:

its smoke and mirrors, wagner and Williams are useful contributors  nothing more they are not the type of player you pay to keep. the 'we drafted ok late" exuse was lame. if they were bona fide stars but they are not

Virtually no teams picked up stars in 2013 draft - it was historically bad as an overall draft - so bad that tavon Austin would still go in the middle of the 1st round in a redraft - in Brandon Williams and Ricky Wagner we got at least 2 players out of the top 32 which is pretty good going considering neither of our top two picks did anything

[rossihunter2]

19 minutes ago, RayRayRaven said:

sure appears they are laying the groundwork to make flacco the 2018 scapegoater.  really now?  who has taken years to understand that you don't mess with flaccos chemistry, it sends him anxious?  who has not figured that out?  is it joe?

no he didn't fire nobody. it was a bunch of hooey and the only guy he talked expectation about was Joe. he put it all on joe. he said fans got the pitchforks out but stevie b says he do knot.  just don't get it, will a 7-9 year next year bring the "Playoffs ultimatum" for 2019. which year is the last year for the non Joe Flaccos? come on stevie b if one is not part of the cure one is part of the problem

yah don't buy em

everyone gotz a pass cept joe

they kinda talked running game

here we go again.........they keep forstallin the correction......its taking far too many years.

It is literally like you didn't watch a single bit of the presser - bisciotti made it a point to say it wasn't good enough by anyone - including Joe but also, for instance, shareece, Ozzie, Eric, john, dean pees etc.

he apportioned blame to literally everyone who he thought shared the blame - he just rightfully didn't put it all on one person (because it wasn't just on one person) - he at no point ragged on Joe anymore than any other major players like Harbs or oz

[RayRayRaven]

3 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

It is literally like you didn't believe a single bit of the presser -

im ok with one more year of missed playoffs but then they all got to go

Edited January 11 by RayRayRaven