[News] Late For Work 1/9: Who Should Stay And Who Should Go Among Aging Ravens Veterans?

[FilthGawd]

On 1/9/2017 at 1:20 PM, whobilly said:

I'm thinking basically every player on the chart with the exception of Wallace. We do need one or two WR's. Pita could be gone unless he is willing to restructure. I would also take a look at Suggs. Running on fumes. Time to start working in younger blood. Of course if we could draft players instead of roster fillers that would help a great deal.

Everyone doesn't need to go. Wallace should be kept as he was the best receiver in our passing game last year, but ravens history at wr suggests they don't care about that.  We let boldin walk after a great superbowl season. Aiken was hardcore demoted this year after proving to be a play maker. Suggs still has it, i dont know what people are talking about, he still sets the edge and still causes havok in the back field. He did that with one arm this season. Doom can walk as judon looks ready for his job. Keep zuttah hes truly not that bad. He was playing with a back injury almost all season or are people forgetting that? Keep wagner, but that's unlikely. No chance we can afford bwilliams unless he takes a discount, and we need juice. Hes too good in all facets of being a fullback. Cut webby so hopefully we can get a young rangy kid to put opposite weddle, if not webby wasnt so bad this season.  But id rather have a playmaker at safety than a good cb, qbs can't account for safeties the way they can corners. Cut watson, id like to see pitta go too, but his contract suggests otherwise. Id like to see us keep aiken but he looks like hes gonna walk. We need to get a complete wr bar none. Cut wright, Arrington and lewis they are all bad. Man i could go on forever.

Edited January 11 by FilthGawd

[davy_861]

Even with the dead money - cut wright. Cool spread sheet but must be irritating to have your income made public. 

[Chuckx999]

Keep Suggs and Pitta. At least they play most of the games, cut everyone else. Since the team/Owner/Coaches don't seem to be in a hurry to fix anything just cut everyone they can and start over with fresh players. Maybe in 3-4 years we will get to the playoffs.

[eze17]

  On 1/9/2017 at 4:29 PM, eze17 said:

  On 1/9/2017 at 3:46 PM, The Mom Gene said:

  On 1/9/2017 at 2:44 PM, jsarrocohome@yahoo.com said:

Webb and Watson must go that's the ravens problem to many older players and webb can't cover

 

  On 1/9/2017 at 2:47 PM, jsarrocohome@yahoo.com said:

Doom will be gone hasn't done anything in 2 years

 

  On 1/9/2017 at 2:47 PM, jsarrocohome@yahoo.com said:

we are a head coach OC DC away from playoffs

 

We should just get rid of everyone and completely start over.  That would solve all of our problems.

I know your being sarcastic, but that is some people that comment on this site's solution. Of course, some of them are common trolls, but others genuinely believe that getting rid of everyone in the FO, all the coaches and 90% of the players would make us a better team. Guess they've never heard of the Cleveland Brownies, who've been trying that approach for years.

I kwow football but you don't have two ,to see our coaches cost us games every year those are FACTs from a smart fan not a troll and if someone doesn't see that you don't know football

I'm assuming you "know" football, not k-wow it. And when you use the number two, is that how many coaches you're upset with? Smart fans have seen every single coach, from Lombardi to Parcells to Bellicheck make questionable calls that have lost their team's games. It's an NFL fact. Not saying I'm 100% happy with Harb's play calling: his clock management is virtually non-existant, the commitment to the run game baffling, and I have always questioned his ability to "slam the door shut" at times in games. But just because I don't want to blow up the entire team doesn't mean I don't "know" football. Firing the GM, the entire coaching staff & the majority of the players,which so many on here THINK they want (and trolls actually do) will give satisfaction for about 24 hours, til it kicks in that we will be a non-competitive football team willing to accept many long years of losing football.

[ryananth]

On 1/9/2017 at 1:12 PM, PersianRaven said:

yeah? Name those 25

How about you give me 7 that have an elite cover guy and a sack specialist?

[ryananth]

On 1/10/2017 at 7:40 AM, RavenManiac#7 said:

As usual, jacket makes an informed and sensible post. I think that we should appoint jacket as we fans' GM. He Always makes sensible and informed posts. I have Never seen one ranting post from him. I have Never seen one unresearched post from him. He Always backs his statements up with facts and common sense, rather than emotion. And he understands more about rules, contracts, salary caps, and other pertinent information than most other posters on this site. What do you say, jacket? Will you accept the nomination?

I wonder if this is one of those  Skip Bayless type posts where he switches accounts to praise himself...Only kidding Jacket I know (pretty sure) this isn't you

[ryananth]

On 1/10/2017 at 10:37 AM, RavensDieHard21 said:

We have been in a cap hell for 2-3 years now. Clean out the players that are not proving they are valuable and start new with cheap draft picks. 

Due to our cap situation we have let great players like McPhee and KO leave. Yes, KO was paid an immense price, but we literally had two All-pros at guard. Had we matched that with Stanley and Wagner. Our offensive line doesn't miss a beat, but anyways, cut Arrington, Lewis, doom--at least attempt a restructure, Watson, then contemplate Wright based on our commitment to drafter a corner early. 

I wouldn't say McPhee is a 'great player'. Also if we'd made the poor decision to match the Raiders offer and keep KO we wouldn't have drafted Stanley because we would've put KO at LT as they were doing late in the 2015 season.

[The Mom Gene]

On ‎1‎/‎10‎/‎2017 at 4:37 AM, jsarrocohome@yahoo.com said:

I kwow football but you don't have two ,to see our coaches cost us games every year those are FACTs from a smart fan not a troll and if someone doesn't see that you don't know football

That's EVERY team... not just ours.  Folks act like we are onerous and these issues are only specific to the Ravens.  They aren't...  ask Tomlin.  Ask Any other HC.

[Cawtious]

On 1/9/2017 at 5:40 PM, billiejean said:

It is very clear you haven't been watching Zuttah. The worst center we've ever had?? After that ridiculous statement I am not sure why I am even dignifying you with a response,.but here it goes.  He was graded the ninth best center in the league last year and he will be graded in the top half of centers this year.  There are two possibilities here.  One, you have no idea how to access offensive line talent because you don't know what they do.  It would not surprise me if you couldn't tell the difference between a bucket or pull step and a false step. And you probably would have trouble differentiating between a pulling lineman and any type of cross block.  But hey maybe you do know about what goes on in the trenches.  If this is the case then your problem is that you have not watched Zuttah on every single play, assessed his performance on the play, and made a tally somewhere in a book so that you could add them all up at the end to see how he did.  You know like PFF does twice over.  But if I were a betting man I would say its both.  You don't know much about offensive line play and you are judging Zuttah on  .1 percent of the plays that he has played this season.  I would be fine with letting Zuttah go because of the money but not without bringing someone in, because if you think Zuttah has been the Ravens worst center ever (Did you just start watching the Ravens this season? Do you not remember Gino Gradkowski or AQ shipley?) you will be in for a rude awakening if either Jensen or Urschel are relied upon to take that spot next season. 

The awakening will be relief.  

[bozo]

listen why not hire ray lewis as a linebacker coach just because of his motivevating skills. he can teach the linebackers better than anyone that I could think of. believe he will get them fired up.

[billiejean]

On 1/12/2017 at 6:23 PM, Cawtious said:

The awakening will be relief.  

Its hard for me to see how a guy ranked as the 56 guard in the league this year would be a relief.  Especially when he came in for a play during the Eagles game when Zuttah went out with a minor injury, and proceeded to be driven 5 yards into the backfield where West was tackled.  You must be basing Urshels skill level on his IQ or his popularity because when he has been in, he has been a disaster. I will say, his rookie season when he played 2 or 3 games at the end of the season and into the playoffs. he played pretty well which unfortunately seems to be an outlier because it has been all downhill from there.

[usmccharles]

On 1/9/2017 at 6:56 AM, Chuckx999 said:

Keep NT – Brandon Williams, and even Mallet, clear house on anyone over age 27. Draft for size and speed with speed the most important factor. Our DB's are just short and slow. Our receivers scare NO One and for gods sake find a RB. Number 9 with ALA. would be a good choice, BIg, Fast something we haven't had since 2000. Just think what might have happened it we could have killed another 3-4 minutes in the last game with the Steelers. Lost to the Raiders buy dumb coaching calls. That's was with at best a 8 & 8 Team. Don't forget that Flaaco just stinks.

Possibly the dumbest thing ive read this year

On 1/9/2017 at 10:31 AM, PersianRaven said:

We are a Marcus Peters/Von Miller combo away from making it to the playoffs. That is exactly what this team is missing. A premium pass rusher and a shut down corner that can stay healthy.

If only it were that simple.