[News] Eisenberg: Nothing Will Impact Ravens More Than Addressing One Position

[JamesA119]

We have been here several times before. But every time Ozzie chooses to save money and hope for miracle. He did that in 2013. He let Graham go for $4M/yr Back then Graham was really good. He had just helped us win the Super Bowl. It's likely that Graham could have signed for a little less than that instead of signing with his hometown Bills. We had the opportunity to sign Brandon Flowers. We chose cheap options like Rashan Melvin, Davis, etc. Then last year we were enamored with Shareece Wright; a player that was riding the bench in San Francisco. He was cheap.
As incongruent as their out look is on the CBs so also it is with the QB position. They have mortgaged the teams future on a bad QB. When I say this people always "Joe has talent" Well what do we mean by that? "He has strong arm, he is on the better side of 6'6" Well that's is called potential. The QB at his 9th yr is still processing the game at the level of a rookie. It doesn't appear that he puts in 1 more second than needs to be put in to get ready for a game. He relies on his instincts and adrenalin on Sundays.


It might be the time to deconstruct this team.

[MadStorkSociety]

Ok I have read most of the post and I would like to ask a question. New England never has a good draft! as a matter of fact hell they lost draft picks! their draftin and unwillingness to pay big contract yet they consistently win year end and year out?

and they say cheaters never prosper!!

[BigUgly]

2 hours ago, araveninwaconc said:

Ok I have read most of the post and I would like to ask a question. New England never has a good draft! as a matter of fact hell they lost draft picks! their draftin and unwillingness to pay big contract yet they consistently win year end and year out?

One word...coaching.  They are successful even when Brady is out, and even when he's in, he's often had no-name receivers (Moss and Gronk are the exceptions, and Gronk is often out)

Edited January 8 by BigUgly

[JamesA119]

  2 hours ago, araveninwaconc said:

Ok I have read most of the post and I would like to ask a question. New England never has a good draft! as a matter of fact hell they lost draft picks! their draftin and unwillingness to pay big contract yet they consistently win year end and year out?

One word...coaching.  They are successful even when Brady is out, and even when he's in, he's often had no-name receivers (Moss and Gronk are the exceptions)

Agree! Coaching and strong emphasis on accountability. Which directly correlates with coaching. How many times have you heard Brady complain about the OC?

[Crusader]

Either Malik Hooker or Solomon Thomas. in the 1st round.

[Ravenous_Ravens]

  21 hours ago, purpledown said:

Not a Jimmy Smith fan, dont think he would have made a difference in the defense and its decline. That and he cant be counted on anyway,.

I don't like Jimmy Smith getting hurt either, but him missing the 2nd half of the Giants game, the jets game, Patriot's game and the 2nd Pittsburgh game showed he is a huge difference maker thanks to Ozzie not drafting a Quality DB in 6 years.

Umm, serious? Guess Tray Walker and Tavon Young were no good? Unfortunate incident made that number 1, but Young is a baller no doubt.

No excuses to not draft at least 2-3 CB's this next draft and finally fill this glaring need. It is a secondary deep draft from what I've heard as well, best take advantage of what is available.

[eze17]

Having a consistent pass rush would also help out the secondary. I agree that Smith is a key piece in the DB corps, and adding another premier player via FA or draft would help, however, if the modern day QB in this league is given enough time, he will invaribly find an open man. Even most mediocre QB's out there have the skills to find a WR if allowed enough time. The Raven's pass rush has been woefully inconsistent the past two years. Even if it doesn't equate to sacks, we need more QB pressure. Without it, even the best CB's in the league are going to be burned eventually.

[hen826957]

This NFL Draft should be based on the secondary this year and it needs to be addressed not passrushing not WRs but secondary in the draft. This the first thing Ozzie needs to fix. WRs can be address in free agency and passrushing could be address in the draft but only one or two just need a McPhee or a Judon type of Passrusher that could give us 5-8 sacks for next year and then focus on an elite Passrusher in 2018 NFL draft. Just my ideas. They're a lot of talented corners and safeties in this Draft.

[Ravenous_Ravens]

  5 hours ago, sizzlingdoom said:

  6 hours ago, jsarrocohome@yahoo.com said:

  7 hours ago, stampedehero said:

In this years draft we should aim for the corners and lineman.   However, another 8-8 or 5-11 season can happen as we are a consistent 3 and out team.  

We need apass rusher first because if you can't get to the QB no corner can cover all day

WHats your thought on Solomon Thomas. I didn't really watched college this year, and have only studied a little so far. He looks pretty awesome though. I still think we need a CB first round. Esp with all the talent this year. I feel like there could be at least 2-5 future pro bowl cbs in the first round of this year. I've never really seen that before. And there is a bunch of talent elsewhere. In all honesty, at 16, I feel like we'll be getting a player that would go top 5 i a lot of drafts. Because of the overall talent in this draft. We still have to get the pick right though, obviously. I feel like we have to go corner for so many reasons. So far I really like Wilson, Tabor, Jones, Jamal Adams (saftey), and there's at least 3-4 other cbs people are talking about going in the first. I haven't looked much yet. Wilson looks like a remedy for Ravens football to me. Pair him with Jimmy Tavon and Weddle for years to come = secondary problems beyond solved, and probably the best in the league. Building the rest of the D around that would be fun imo

I haven't watched any college FB this year but will watch senior bowl mock drafts have us taking a pass rusher from Alabama with our first pick don't remember his name but sounds like a good player but I agree with you CB talent deep in this draft seems tobe good corners available in first 3 rounds

Just hope FO doesn't make the mistake of drafting CB late and miss out on top talent, thinking its a deep class. They have a deep need to upgrade the secondary talent period. Everyone knows the Ravens have a stout run game defense.

There is already pass rushers on this team. Give them another 0.2-0.3 seconds on average to get home and the difference in outcomes will be huge. Opposing QB's were not forced into holding the ball long enough to feel the pressure and negates the work of your pass rush and wears them down in the process.

Also Weedle and Webb was a good combo at Safety, but really now is the time to think forward and bring another young player in to learn the position from those vets. They did not groom up a safety before Reeds departure and look at the whole situation that created. It took several years to "fix" but they are again in a similar position. Elam is good for depth but needs to show more on the field to consider him a future starter.

[JamesA119]

Having a consistent pass rush would also help out the secondary. I agree that Smith is a key piece in the DB corps, and adding another premier player via FA or draft would help, however, if the modern day QB in this league is given enough time, he will invaribly find an open man. Even most mediocre QB's out there have the skills to find a WR if allowed enough time. The Raven's pass rush has been woefully inconsistent the past two years. Even if it doesn't equate to sacks, we need more QB pressure. Without it, even the best CB's in the league are going to be burned eventually.

I agree that the pass rush has been one of the weakest positions for us in the last 2 yrs. But that's not for lack of effort from the FO as it has been on filling the CB position. Injury to 2 possible hall of fame pass rushers in the last 2 yrs. (Suggs and Dumerville both have had Achilles surgery) They used the second round on Kamalei Correa. Zadarius Smith has been inconsistent despite showing early potential.
Since Jimmy Smith i believe that Tavon Young is the highest drafted CB and Young was drafted in the 4th. They haven't brought in any player of any consequence to play CB since Smith. Graham's success was a pleasant surprise because he was a special teams player for the Bears before he came to us.
Despite preaching the importance of CB position, the front office has been paying it lip service.

[January J]

Yeah I disagree..ofcourse we need another top notch corner... But the pass rush has got to be the priority. A good pass rush cash make an average secondary look great.

[BigUgly]

I'd like to see the FO not try and prove how clever they are with the 2nd and 3rd-rounders...Hasn't worked to well in the past.  I can see them trading back from 16, and then bundling some later round pics to move up / add pics in the 2nd and 3rd.  There's a lot of depth in this draft at DE/OLB and CB.

[JamesA119]

  3 hours ago, jsarrocohome@yahoo.com said:

  6 hours ago, sizzlingdoom said:

  6 hours ago, jsarrocohome@yahoo.com said:

  8 hours ago, stampedehero said:

In this years draft we should aim for the corners and lineman.   However, another 8-8 or 5-11 season can happen as we are a consistent 3 and out team.  

We need apass rusher first because if you can't get to the QB no corner can cover all day

WHats your thought on Solomon Thomas. I didn't really watched college this year, and have only studied a little so far. He looks pretty awesome though. I still think we need a CB first round. Esp with all the talent this year. I feel like there could be at least 2-5 future pro bowl cbs in the first round of this year. I've never really seen that before. And there is a bunch of talent elsewhere. In all honesty, at 16, I feel like we'll be getting a player that would go top 5 i a lot of drafts. Because of the overall talent in this draft. We still have to get the pick right though, obviously. I feel like we have to go corner for so many reasons. So far I really like Wilson, Tabor, Jones, Jamal Adams (saftey), and there's at least 3-4 other cbs people are talking about going in the first. I haven't looked much yet. Wilson looks like a remedy for Ravens football to me. Pair him with Jimmy Tavon and Weddle for years to come = secondary problems beyond solved, and probably the best in the league. Building the rest of the D around that would be fun imo

I haven't watched any college FB this year but will watch senior bowl mock drafts have us taking a pass rusher from Alabama with our first pick don't remember his name but sounds like a good player but I agree with you CB talent deep in this draft seems tobe good corners available in first 3 rounds

Just hope FO doesn't make the mistake of drafting CB late and miss out on top talent, thinking its a deep class. They have a deep need to upgrade the secondary talent period. Everyone knows the Ravens have a stout run game defense.

There is already pass rushers on this team. Give them another 0.2-0.3 seconds on average to get home and the difference in outcomes will be huge. Opposing QB's were not forced into holding the ball long enough to feel the pressure and negates the work of your pass rush and wears them down in the process.

Also Weedle and Webb was a good combo at Safety, but really now is the time to think forward and bring another young player in to learn the position from those vets. They did not groom up a safety before Reeds departure and look at the whole situation that created. It took several years to "fix" but they are again in a similar position. Elam is good for depth but needs to show more on the field to consider him a future starter.

I agree with most of what you said except on Elam. Elam has put so many bad plays on tape that I'm worried that he might be out of the NFL completely come next year.

[eze17]

Yeah I disagree..ofcourse we need another top notch corner... But the pass rush has got to be the priority. A good pass rush cash make an average secondary look great.

Truth.

[jsarrocohome@yahoo.com]

  34 minutes ago, Ravenous_Ravens said:

  3 hours ago, jsarrocohome@yahoo.com said:

  6 hours ago, sizzlingdoom said:

  7 hours ago, jsarrocohome@yahoo.com said:

  8 hours ago, stampedehero said:

In this years draft we should aim for the corners and lineman.   However, another 8-8 or 5-11 season can happen as we are a consistent 3 and out team.  

We need apass rusher first because if you can't get to the QB no corner can cover all day

WHats your thought on Solomon Thomas. I didn't really watched college this year, and have only studied a little so far. He looks pretty awesome though. I still think we need a CB first round. Esp with all the talent this year. I feel like there could be at least 2-5 future pro bowl cbs in the first round of this year. I've never really seen that before. And there is a bunch of talent elsewhere. In all honesty, at 16, I feel like we'll be getting a player that would go top 5 i a lot of drafts. Because of the overall talent in this draft. We still have to get the pick right though, obviously. I feel like we have to go corner for so many reasons. So far I really like Wilson, Tabor, Jones, Jamal Adams (saftey), and there's at least 3-4 other cbs people are talking about going in the first. I haven't looked much yet. Wilson looks like a remedy for Ravens football to me. Pair him with Jimmy Tavon and Weddle for years to come = secondary problems beyond solved, and probably the best in the league. Building the rest of the D around that would be fun imo

I haven't watched any college FB this year but will watch senior bowl mock drafts have us taking a pass rusher from Alabama with our first pick don't remember his name but sounds like a good player but I agree with you CB talent deep in this draft seems tobe good corners available in first 3 rounds

Just hope FO doesn't make the mistake of drafting CB late and miss out on top talent, thinking its a deep class. They have a deep need to upgrade the secondary talent period. Everyone knows the Ravens have a stout run game defense.

There is already pass rushers on this team. Give them another 0.2-0.3 seconds on average to get home and the difference in outcomes will be huge. Opposing QB's were not forced into holding the ball long enough to feel the pressure and negates the work of your pass rush and wears them down in the process.

Also Weedle and Webb was a good combo at Safety, but really now is the time to think forward and bring another young player in to learn the position from those vets. They did not groom up a safety before Reeds departure and look at the whole situation that created. It took several years to "fix" but they are again in a similar position. Elam is good for depth but needs to show more on the field to consider him a future starter.

I agree with most of what you said except on Elam. Elam has put so many bad plays on tape that I'm worried that he might be out of the NFL completely come next year.

Elam should and will be gone this year he's terrible

[jsarrocohome@yahoo.com]

I'd like to see the FO not try and prove how clever they are with the 2nd and 3rd-rounders...Hasn't worked to well in the past.  I can see them trading back from 16, and then bundling some later round pics to move up / add pics in the 2nd and 3rd.  There's a lot of depth in this draft at DE/OLB and CB.

We need quality picks not quantity 1st round pass rusher or CB or WR 2nd round whatever one we didn't get in the 1st free agency will determine some of this

[jsarrocohome@yahoo.com]

  3 hours ago, jsarrocohome@yahoo.com said:

  6 hours ago, sizzlingdoom said:

  7 hours ago, jsarrocohome@yahoo.com said:

  8 hours ago, stampedehero said:

In this years draft we should aim for the corners and lineman.   However, another 8-8 or 5-11 season can happen as we are a consistent 3 and out team.  

We need apass rusher first because if you can't get to the QB no corner can cover all day

WHats your thought on Solomon Thomas. I didn't really watched college this year, and have only studied a little so far. He looks pretty awesome though. I still think we need a CB first round. Esp with all the talent this year. I feel like there could be at least 2-5 future pro bowl cbs in the first round of this year. I've never really seen that before. And there is a bunch of talent elsewhere. In all honesty, at 16, I feel like we'll be getting a player that would go top 5 i a lot of drafts. Because of the overall talent in this draft. We still have to get the pick right though, obviously. I feel like we have to go corner for so many reasons. So far I really like Wilson, Tabor, Jones, Jamal Adams (saftey), and there's at least 3-4 other cbs people are talking about going in the first. I haven't looked much yet. Wilson looks like a remedy for Ravens football to me. Pair him with Jimmy Tavon and Weddle for years to come = secondary problems beyond solved, and probably the best in the league. Building the rest of the D around that would be fun imo

I haven't watched any college FB this year but will watch senior bowl mock drafts have us taking a pass rusher from Alabama with our first pick don't remember his name but sounds like a good player but I agree with you CB talent deep in this draft seems tobe good corners available in first 3 rounds

Just hope FO doesn't make the mistake of drafting CB late and miss out on top talent, thinking its a deep class. They have a deep need to upgrade the secondary talent period. Everyone knows the Ravens have a stout run game defense.

There is already pass rushers on this team. Give them another 0.2-0.3 seconds on average to get home and the difference in outcomes will be huge. Opposing QB's were not forced into holding the ball long enough to feel the pressure and negates the work of your pass rush and wears them down in the process.

Also Weedle and Webb was a good combo at Safety, but really now is the time to think forward and bring another young player in to learn the position from those vets. They did not groom up a safety before Reeds departure and look at the whole situation that created. It took several years to "fix" but they are again in a similar position. Elam is good for depth but needs to show more on the field to consider him a future starter.

we will have to address some needs before draft in FA and Im not a fan of weddle or webb weddles not terrible but shies away from hitting and webs play and salary will be enough to cut him this year we need a thumper at saftey

[eze17]

I'd like to see the FO not try and prove how clever they are with the 2nd and 3rd-rounders...Hasn't worked to well in the past.  I can see them trading back from 16, and then bundling some later round pics to move up / add pics in the 2nd and 3rd.  There's a lot of depth in this draft at DE/OLB and CB.

There's a lot of depth, but there are some legitimate blue chip guys on defense that could still be around also, which is why I hope we stay at #16 and draft a player who could turn out to be a real difference maker. The quanity over quality approach that the FO gambles on may have worked out in the 4th round last year - I'll withhold judgement for awhile, though it looks promising - But in other drafts has ended up hurting us. I say go for the stud DE, OLB or DB in 2017.

[eze17]

  54 minutes ago, Ravenous_Ravens said:

  4 hours ago, jsarrocohome@yahoo.com said:

  7 hours ago, sizzlingdoom said:

  7 hours ago, jsarrocohome@yahoo.com said:

  9 hours ago, stampedehero said:

In this years draft we should aim for the corners and lineman.   However, another 8-8 or 5-11 season can happen as we are a consistent 3 and out team.  

We need apass rusher first because if you can't get to the QB no corner can cover all day

WHats your thought on Solomon Thomas. I didn't really watched college this year, and have only studied a little so far. He looks pretty awesome though. I still think we need a CB first round. Esp with all the talent this year. I feel like there could be at least 2-5 future pro bowl cbs in the first round of this year. I've never really seen that before. And there is a bunch of talent elsewhere. In all honesty, at 16, I feel like we'll be getting a player that would go top 5 i a lot of drafts. Because of the overall talent in this draft. We still have to get the pick right though, obviously. I feel like we have to go corner for so many reasons. So far I really like Wilson, Tabor, Jones, Jamal Adams (saftey), and there's at least 3-4 other cbs people are talking about going in the first. I haven't looked much yet. Wilson looks like a remedy for Ravens football to me. Pair him with Jimmy Tavon and Weddle for years to come = secondary problems beyond solved, and probably the best in the league. Building the rest of the D around that would be fun imo

I haven't watched any college FB this year but will watch senior bowl mock drafts have us taking a pass rusher from Alabama with our first pick don't remember his name but sounds like a good player but I agree with you CB talent deep in this draft seems tobe good corners available in first 3 rounds

Just hope FO doesn't make the mistake of drafting CB late and miss out on top talent, thinking its a deep class. They have a deep need to upgrade the secondary talent period. Everyone knows the Ravens have a stout run game defense.

There is already pass rushers on this team. Give them another 0.2-0.3 seconds on average to get home and the difference in outcomes will be huge. Opposing QB's were not forced into holding the ball long enough to feel the pressure and negates the work of your pass rush and wears them down in the process.

Also Weedle and Webb was a good combo at Safety, but really now is the time to think forward and bring another young player in to learn the position from those vets. They did not groom up a safety before Reeds departure and look at the whole situation that created. It took several years to "fix" but they are again in a similar position. Elam is good for depth but needs to show more on the field to consider him a future starter.

we will have to address some needs before draft in FA and Im not a fan of weddle or webb weddles not terrible but shies away from hitting and webs play and salary will be enough to cut him this year we need a thumper at saftey

I thought Weddle was a nice addition. Plays with heart, will give you a great play every now and then and has become a vocal leader in the locker room. Agree that something needs to be done with Webbie. As long as they show K. Lewis the door, the team almost has to improve.

[The Greek]

  48 minutes ago, BigUgly said:

I'd like to see the FO not try and prove how clever they are with the 2nd and 3rd-rounders...Hasn't worked to well in the past.  I can see them trading back from 16, and then bundling some later round pics to move up / add pics in the 2nd and 3rd.  There's a lot of depth in this draft at DE/OLB and CB.

There's a lot of depth, but there are some legitimate blue chip guys on defense that could still be around also, which is why I hope we stay at #16 and draft a player who could turn out to be a real difference maker. The quanity over quality approach that the FO gambles on may have worked out in the 4th round last year - I'll withhold judgement for awhile, though it looks promising - But in other drafts has ended up hurting us. I say go for the stud DE, OLB or DB in 2017.

i agree that we should stay put or even move up. stock piling picks has not worked because we end up cutting some of these lower rd guys in camp so why not pkg them to move up and grab better rated players. sure there is no guarantee they will pan out but lets try.

[dirtybird66]

they had a chance to draft JALEN RAMSEY but blew it! he alone would of won a few games at the end of games.

[mc_red23]

2 minutes ago, dirtybird66 said:

they had a chance to draft JALEN RAMSEY but blew it! he alone would of won a few games at the end of games.

Yet you don't factor in how many games we'd have lost by having Hurst as our starting LT.

[MadStorkSociety]

  3 hours ago, Raven1995 said:

  On 1/7/2017 at 4:46 PM, purpledown said:

Not a Jimmy Smith fan, dont think he would have made a difference in the defense and its decline. That and he cant be counted on anyway,.

I don't like Jimmy Smith getting hurt either, but him missing the 2nd half of the Giants game, the jets game, Patriot's game and the 2nd Pittsburgh game showed he is a huge difference maker thanks to Ozzie not drafting a Quality DB in 6 years.

Umm, serious? Guess Tray Walker and Tavon Young were no good? Unfortunate incident made that number 1, but Young is a baller no doubt.

No excuses to not draft at least 2-3 CB's this next draft and finally fill this glaring need. It is a secondary deep draft from what I've heard as well, best take advantage of what is available.

Wonder what our D would have been like with Tray Walker.

[MadStorkSociety]

  5 hours ago, araveninwaconc said:

Ok I have read most of the post and I would like to ask a question. New England never has a good draft! as a matter of fact hell they lost draft picks! their draftin and unwillingness to pay big contract yet they consistently win year end and year out?

One word...coaching.  They are successful even when Brady is out, and even when he's in, he's often had no-name receivers (Moss and Gronk are the exceptions, and Gronk is often out)

NE holds every player accountable to "do your job".

[mearzunkies]

Ramsey was the one to snag. Thew Ravens were right there.

[mearzunkies]

  2 hours ago, Ravenous_Ravens said:

  4 hours ago, Raven1995 said:

  On 1/7/2017 at 3:46 PM, purpledown said:

Not a Jimmy Smith fan, dont think he would have made a difference in the defense and its decline. That and he cant be counted on anyway,.

I don't like Jimmy Smith getting hurt either, but him missing the 2nd half of the Giants game, the jets game, Patriot's game and the 2nd Pittsburgh game showed he is a huge difference maker thanks to Ozzie not drafting a Quality DB in 6 years.

Umm, serious? Guess Tray Walker and Tavon Young were no good? Unfortunate incident made that number 1, but Young is a baller no doubt.

No excuses to not draft at least 2-3 CB's this next draft and finally fill this glaring need. It is a secondary deep draft from what I've heard as well, best take advantage of what is available.

Wonder what our D would have been like with Tray Walker.

Sharice Wright ohs better...

[EdTheMythicalOne]

Couple of things here and other posters have pointed some of what I have to say out already.

First of all, I should certainly hope this defense is better than it was in 2015 when almost every starter on the team was on IR. So I would attribute a lot of the defense's improvement to simply having the healthy bodies back. Before 2015 Pees' defenses have ranked no less than 12th and I think as high as 3rd in that Superbowl run.

Secondly, stats just show you numbers. They don't show the whole story. The Ravens defense was very stingy...until the game was on the line later in the 4th quarter. How many times did we see this defense nearly shut out a team for a half or three quarters only to blow the lead giving up chunks of big plays in the second half or fourth quarter?

Third, while getting a starting caliber and starting cornerback would be nice, what we really need to do is address the elephant in the room. That would be two 30 something edge rushers coming off of major injuries and an interior pass rush that's all but vanished from sight. Jernigan did what he always does, shows a flash for a couple games and then he disappears. The D-line wore down at the end of the season and late in games. You can have the best secondary in the game and they aren't going to be able to cover receivers for more than 5-6 seconds...unless you are playing against the Ravens receivers....but that's a different topic.

So this defense had some issues other than Jimmy Smith getting hurt, which is a recurring trend now mind you. We need disruptive edge rushers again and a beast up the middle. Brandon Williams is a very good player, but I think the emergence of a player like Pierce plus the chance to see a healthy Carl Davis and Willie Henry are what we need to improve up front.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

  2 hours ago, Ravenous_Ravens said:

  3 hours ago, Raven1995 said:

  On 1/7/2017 at 4:46 PM, purpledown said:

Not a Jimmy Smith fan, dont think he would have made a difference in the defense and its decline. That and he cant be counted on anyway,.

I don't like Jimmy Smith getting hurt either, but him missing the 2nd half of the Giants game, the jets game, Patriot's game and the 2nd Pittsburgh game showed he is a huge difference maker thanks to Ozzie not drafting a Quality DB in 6 years.

Umm, serious? Guess Tray Walker and Tavon Young were no good? Unfortunate incident made that number 1, but Young is a baller no doubt.

No excuses to not draft at least 2-3 CB's this next draft and finally fill this glaring need. It is a secondary deep draft from what I've heard as well, best take advantage of what is available.

Wonder what our D would have been like with Tray Walker.

Chances are he would have been serving some suspensions in his future. There is a reason why this site and the team stopped adorning his jersey number during the season. It happens to do with the circumstances around his death.

[BiggMack91]

  2 hours ago, dirtybird66 said:

they had a chance to draft JALEN RAMSEY but blew it! he alone would of won a few games at the end of games.

Yet you don't factor in how many games we'd have lost by having Hurst as our starting LT.

alex lewis would have started at LT not hurst

[billiejean]

  3 hours ago, mc_red23 said:

  3 hours ago, dirtybird66 said:

they had a chance to draft JALEN RAMSEY but blew it! he alone would of won a few games at the end of games.

Yet you don't factor in how many games we'd have lost by having Hurst as our starting LT.

alex lewis would have started at LT not hurst

im not sure if that a huge upgrade. Lewis has more talent than Hurst but Lewis is just a rookie and his time at LT this season did not look good. That said If we didn't draft RS in all likely hood we would have taken OL earlier than we grabbed Lewis.