[News] Ronnie Stanley Can Become A 'Premier' NFL Left Tackle

[gtalk12]

2 minutes ago, Ravensfansince03 said:

Picking up Ronnie last offseason was a no-brainer. We have him, but we also have other problems to asses. Starting with WR and Defense. I want to see this team be aggressive this offseason.

I am curious if the issues at WR would be as large if both Camp and Maxx were healthy. We drafted Maxx very high last year with expectations that at some point he takes over as our #1 TE and a real receiving threat. That is not a shot at Pitta, but it seemed to me as though Maxx could block better in the run game already. Maxx and Boyle if they continue to progress and play to the potential that we have seen in incredibly small sample sizes then I think we are going to have a much better looking offense next year. 2 TE sets both of which can catch and block.,

[ellicottraven]

  2 hours ago, jsant said:

Yanda moves to left guard and Stanley plays great in the last 5 weeks. Coincidence?

Yanda moved to left guard because he had a shoulder injury that was affecting his play on the right side.

Stanley got healthy at the right time.  I'm not sure Yanda moving had much to do with Stanley's performance otherwise.

This is absolutely accurate and the reason Yanda moved to the left side is because he had a shoulder injury and hurt his effectiveness on the right side. But, I'm sure it helped Stanley a bit in terms of communication with Yanda instead of another rookie in Alex Lewis. I do think Stanley improved to become the best LT in football over the past 4-5 weeks was mostly because he got healthy and confident, not because Yanda played next to him.

[Ravenous_Ravens]

  2 hours ago, The Mom Gene said:

  2 hours ago, BiggMack91 said:

  3 hours ago, Steve32 said:

  3 hours ago, BiggMack91 said:

he is average at best he got flacco hurried on numerous occasions he is no Ogden he is a consistent Oher and we all know how that turned out he is solid but I wish we would have gotten hargraves CB at 6 but I don't see stanley being a franchise LT hope we finally draft a good CB this year with 1st round pick

Glad Ozzie make the picks and not you!

so your happy with the bums that he picks I'm not can't wait for ozzie to be fired

Most of us are pretty happy with the guys Ozzie picks. We've had some great seasons. And really good guys... I mean afterall, Ozzie did pick Ogden, Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, among many others like Chris McAlister, and got guys like Shannon Sharpe, Derrick Mason, Todd Heap... and the list goes on and on.... SMH... I'm just amazed at how people live their lives completely ticked off about everything and everybody now a days.

just like he drafted Kyle Boller,Mark Clayton,Chris Chester,Michael Oher,Sergio Kindle,Terrence Cody,Ed Dickson,Bernard Pierce,Matt Elam,Arthur Brown,DeRon Jenkins,Jay Graham,Patrick Johnson,Travis Taylor,Chris Redman,Musa Smith,Dwan Edwards,Denard Darling,Dan Cody,Adam Terry,David Pittman,Yamon Figurs,Tavares Gooden,Tom Zbikowski,Jah Reid and Terrence Brooks just to name a few yes he's picked some good guy but his hit to miss was 1-3 now he's like 1-5 an he's getting old this is a business first and foremost we have cut ties with lots of loved players an staff over the years an I think his time has come to walk away along with the so-called head coach John and his band of fools dean and marty so to me I don't know how some fans can see a problem for a period of time and still not want to fix it

If you are going to put forward stats, then how about you also take the time to get the stats of all the other teams, and then see where the Ravens stack up. Anyone can make a list of players/issues that didn't go there way. It does not constitute failure in and of itself. You conveniently left out all the players names that were, according to you "successful". IMHO this statement you brought forward is incomplete and lacking due diligence.

[b93333]

No question he's a keeper. At least the Oz got one of the first three picks right.

[BiggMack91]

  1 hour ago, BiggMack91 said:

  2 hours ago, The Mom Gene said:

  2 hours ago, BiggMack91 said:

  3 hours ago, Steve32 said:

  3 hours ago, BiggMack91 said:

he is average at best he got flacco hurried on numerous occasions he is no Ogden he is a consistent Oher and we all know how that turned out he is solid but I wish we would have gotten hargraves CB at 6 but I don't see stanley being a franchise LT hope we finally draft a good CB this year with 1st round pick

Glad Ozzie make the picks and not you!

so your happy with the bums that he picks I'm not can't wait for ozzie to be fired

Most of us are pretty happy with the guys Ozzie picks. We've had some great seasons. And really good guys... I mean afterall, Ozzie did pick Ogden, Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, among many others like Chris McAlister, and got guys like Shannon Sharpe, Derrick Mason, Todd Heap... and the list goes on and on.... SMH... I'm just amazed at how people live their lives completely ticked off about everything and everybody now a days.

just like he drafted Kyle Boller,Mark Clayton,Chris Chester,Michael Oher,Sergio Kindle,Terrence Cody,Ed Dickson,Bernard Pierce,Matt Elam,Arthur Brown,DeRon Jenkins,Jay Graham,Patrick Johnson,Travis Taylor,Chris Redman,Musa Smith,Dwan Edwards,Denard Darling,Dan Cody,Adam Terry,David Pittman,Yamon Figurs,Tavares Gooden,Tom Zbikowski,Jah Reid and Terrence Brooks just to name a few yes he's picked some good guy but his hit to miss was 1-3 now he's like 1-5 an he's getting old this is a business first and foremost we have cut ties with lots of loved players an staff over the years an I think his time has come to walk away along with the so-called head coach John and his band of fools dean and marty so to me I don't know how some fans can see a problem for a period of time and still not want to fix it

If you are going to put forward stats, then how about you also take the time to get the stats of all the other teams, and then see where the Ravens stack up. Anyone can make a list of players/issues that didn't go there way. It does not constitute failure in and of itself. You conveniently left out all the players names that were, according to you "successful". IMHO this statement you brought forward is incomplete and lacking due diligence.

all those guys were 1-3 rounders the rounds every team has to make count so your argument is invalid I showed that not every pick in the 1st-3rd round has been average or better yes he has drafted numerous good-great players but its starting to become a trend for him to waste early round picks as for your list
Jonathan Ogden,Ray Lewis,Jermaine Lewis,Peter Boulware,Jamie Sharper,Kim Herring,Duane Starks,Chris McAlister,Brandon Stokley,Jamal Lewis,Adalius Thomas,Todd Heap,Ed Reed,Terrell Suggs,Jarret Johnson,Haloti Ngata,Ben Grubbs,Marshal Yanda,Joe Flacco,Ray Rice,Jimmy Smith,Kelechi Osemele,Brandon Williams and C. J. Mosley are his best picks that are in the 1st-3rd range so not as long of as a list as i expected

[eze17]

  56 minutes ago, eze17 said:

  1 hour ago, BiggMack91 said:

  2 hours ago, The Mom Gene said:

  3 hours ago, BiggMack91 said:

  3 hours ago, Steve32 said:

  4 hours ago, BiggMack91 said:

he is average at best he got flacco hurried on numerous occasions he is no Ogden he is a consistent Oher and we all know how that turned out he is solid but I wish we would have gotten hargraves CB at 6 but I don't see stanley being a franchise LT hope we finally draft a good CB this year with 1st round pick

Glad Ozzie make the picks and not you!

so your happy with the bums that he picks I'm not can't wait for ozzie to be fired

Most of us are pretty happy with the guys Ozzie picks. We've had some great seasons. And really good guys... I mean afterall, Ozzie did pick Ogden, Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, among many others like Chris McAlister, and got guys like Shannon Sharpe, Derrick Mason, Todd Heap... and the list goes on and on.... SMH... I'm just amazed at how people live their lives completely ticked off about everything and everybody now a days.

just like he drafted Kyle Boller,Mark Clayton,Chris Chester,Michael Oher,Sergio Kindle,Terrence Cody,Ed Dickson,Bernard Pierce,Matt Elam,Arthur Brown,DeRon Jenkins,Jay Graham,Patrick Johnson,Travis Taylor,Chris Redman,Musa Smith,Dwan Edwards,Denard Darling,Dan Cody,Adam Terry,David Pittman,Yamon Figurs,Tavares Gooden,Tom Zbikowski,Jah Reid and Terrence Brooks just to name a few yes he's picked some good guy but his hit to miss was 1-3 now he's like 1-5 an he's getting old this is a business first and foremost we have cut ties with lots of loved players an staff over the years an I think his time has come to walk away along with the so-called head coach John and his band of fools dean and marty so to me I don't know how some fans can see a problem for a period of time and still not want to fix it

Well, I;m impressed with your memory anyhow....but really, every GM has drafted guys who for one reason or another just don't pan out. Where's your list of players that Oz has drafted that have went on to have great careers? Certainly as long as the list of players you've named above. And as for "fixing" the Raven's problems by firing everybody, try asking the Cleveland Brownies about how that works...

you are right to an extent about drafting but I think Eric DeCosta will do just fine when OZ leaves an its my opinion that it should be soon but as far as firing john,marty,dean turning us into browns your wrong we should do it now and get it over with john has not won anything worth mentioning since the super bowl he can't manage the clock an holds the wrong people accountable and has lost games for us with horrible special teams plays so if we made a strong offer to Pats OC Josh McDaniels for head coach bring back chuck pagano as DC and Jedd Fisch as the OC with McDaniels over seeing everything we would be back in the playoffs in 1-3 years and would be true contenders for years to come but thats just me

Agree that DeCosta will be A fine GM. Also agree that Harbs is terrible with clock management. But he was brought along under Andy Reid, who is possibly the worst head coach in the NFL when it comes to clock management. Not a real excuse, but the nut doesn't fall far from the tree. Disagree with the special teams comment. We actually have one of the best ST units in the league. Yeah, I know that return specialist is a desperate need, Hester was a shell of his former self, but overall special teams played well. I would have been o.k. with a change of OC, however I think the Ravens want to see some stability at the position and kept Morny. As for gutting the whole coaching staff, I strongly believe that Biscotti will have Harbs on the hot seat next year, and missing the play-offs will not be acceptable next year. You don't just fire a coach with Harb's pedigree after a couple of disappointing seasons, but he needs to turn things around quickly.

[BiggMack91]

  55 minutes ago, BiggMack91 said:

  1 hour ago, eze17 said:

  1 hour ago, BiggMack91 said:

  3 hours ago, The Mom Gene said:

  3 hours ago, BiggMack91 said:

  4 hours ago, Steve32 said:

  4 hours ago, BiggMack91 said:

he is average at best he got flacco hurried on numerous occasions he is no Ogden he is a consistent Oher and we all know how that turned out he is solid but I wish we would have gotten hargraves CB at 6 but I don't see stanley being a franchise LT hope we finally draft a good CB this year with 1st round pick

Glad Ozzie make the picks and not you!

so your happy with the bums that he picks I'm not can't wait for ozzie to be fired

Most of us are pretty happy with the guys Ozzie picks. We've had some great seasons. And really good guys... I mean afterall, Ozzie did pick Ogden, Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, among many others like Chris McAlister, and got guys like Shannon Sharpe, Derrick Mason, Todd Heap... and the list goes on and on.... SMH... I'm just amazed at how people live their lives completely ticked off about everything and everybody now a days.

just like he drafted Kyle Boller,Mark Clayton,Chris Chester,Michael Oher,Sergio Kindle,Terrence Cody,Ed Dickson,Bernard Pierce,Matt Elam,Arthur Brown,DeRon Jenkins,Jay Graham,Patrick Johnson,Travis Taylor,Chris Redman,Musa Smith,Dwan Edwards,Denard Darling,Dan Cody,Adam Terry,David Pittman,Yamon Figurs,Tavares Gooden,Tom Zbikowski,Jah Reid and Terrence Brooks just to name a few yes he's picked some good guy but his hit to miss was 1-3 now he's like 1-5 an he's getting old this is a business first and foremost we have cut ties with lots of loved players an staff over the years an I think his time has come to walk away along with the so-called head coach John and his band of fools dean and marty so to me I don't know how some fans can see a problem for a period of time and still not want to fix it

Well, I;m impressed with your memory anyhow....but really, every GM has drafted guys who for one reason or another just don't pan out. Where's your list of players that Oz has drafted that have went on to have great careers? Certainly as long as the list of players you've named above. And as for "fixing" the Raven's problems by firing everybody, try asking the Cleveland Brownies about how that works...

you are right to an extent about drafting but I think Eric DeCosta will do just fine when OZ leaves an its my opinion that it should be soon but as far as firing john,marty,dean turning us into browns your wrong we should do it now and get it over with john has not won anything worth mentioning since the super bowl he can't manage the clock an holds the wrong people accountable and has lost games for us with horrible special teams plays so if we made a strong offer to Pats OC Josh McDaniels for head coach bring back chuck pagano as DC and Jedd Fisch as the OC with McDaniels over seeing everything we would be back in the playoffs in 1-3 years and would be true contenders for years to come but thats just me

Agree that DeCosta will be A fine GM. Also agree that Harbs is terrible with clock management. But he was brought along under Andy Reid, who is possibly the worst head coach in the NFL when it comes to clock management. Not a real excuse, but the nut doesn't fall far from the tree. Disagree with the special teams comment. We actually have one of the best ST units in the league. Yeah, I know that return specialist is a desperate need, Hester was a shell of his former self, but overall special teams played well. I would have been o.k. with a change of OC, however I think the Ravens want to see some stability at the position and kept Morny. As for gutting the whole coaching staff, I strongly believe that Biscotti will have Harbs on the hot seat next year, and missing the play-offs will not be acceptable next year. You don't just fire a coach with Harb's pedigree after a couple of disappointing seasons, but he needs to turn things around quickly.

but if it wasn't for the defense John inherited John would have never won anything worth mentioning so after the super bowl is what I count for his pedigree which I'm not a fan of an I don't think he is head coach material TBH an there is no excuse for poor clock management for a head coach I don't care who you are if you look at billachick who is a good coach even though it pains me to say has all the characteristics of a winning coach when I look at harbs I don't see the same I see a football guy who knows his stuff 80% of the time but the 20% he doesn't is horrible he has single handedly lost multiple games for us with bad play calling and not making head coach decisions but not much will change next year I told everyone after the buffalo game we would go 8-8 because of this same problem so I still say we make a strong offer to Pats OC Josh McDaniels for head coach bring back chuck pagano as DC and Jedd Fisch as the OC with McDaniels over seeing everything

[dirtybird66]

he had concerns about his run blocking coming out of college,until he picks up size and streagnth he will not be a complete LT ALEX LEWIS IS A BIG NASTY and when he stepped in when STANLEY went down we won 4 games,the running game improved.

[RavensDieHard21]

How did this go from a Ronnie Stanley thread to a bash Harbaugh one? 

[RavensDieHard21]

2 minutes ago, dirtybird66 said:

he had concerns about his run blocking coming out of college,until he picks up size and streagnth he will not be a complete LT ALEX LEWIS IS A BIG NASTY and when he stepped in when STANLEY went down we won 4 games,the running game improved.

Lol false. We lost 4 straight when Stanley went down. Lewis is a good run blocker though 

[FlocksGottaFeed]

5 hours ago, BiggMack91 said:

ogden also didn't give up a sack until his second year an that was 1 all of his second season but only gave up 26 for his hole career

Different era - different game. Those numbers will most likely never be seen again.

• Passing attempts have nearly doubled.
• Rushing specialist and schemes are more advantageous.
• Team speed per defender is off the charts.
• New blocking rules surrender more defensive advantages.

Not to take anything away from Ogden (HoF), but at the same time not to take anything away from this youngster. He deserves all the accolades. There's only one Ogden and hopefully when it's all said and done...people will be saying the same about Stanley.

[sizzlingdoom]

  14 hours ago, BiggMack91 said:

he is average at best he got flacco hurried on numerous occasions he is no Ogden he is a consistent Oher and we all know how that turned out he is solid but I wish we would have gotten hargraves CB at 6 but I don't see stanley being a franchise LT hope we finally draft a good CB this year with 1st round pick

Glad Ozzie make the picks and not you!

Not me. Ozzie's picks over the past 7 years have been destroying this franchise! If you need a list I'd be more than happy to provide. There have been at least 10-12 100% whiffs in rounds 1-3 over the past 7 years. Forget pro bowls, they are guys that can't even contribute at all to a victory. It's very sad, for the Ravens, and the fans. Think about that, completely whiffing on 2 of 3 picks in rounds 1,2, and 3.....for 7 years in a row!!!! That combined with our below average coaching staff, it's a miracle we went 8-8. Sizzle,Ngata, Ray, and Ed made John look good. Now he's been 100% exposed. This was literally the worst coached season in any sport I've seen my entire life. Yet Steve says bring em all back??? When all is said and done, if we keep drafting like we have been, we'll be losers for years to come.
Stanley is good. He better be good, he was picked 6th overall. Would've been nice to move back, pick up another high pick, and maybe have taken a corner in the first? Instead we move back later, for 4th round picks instead of 1rst and 2nds, and pass on franchise builders like Shepard, Spence, and Michael Thomas....And what do we do all that for.....100%WHIFF-KC. Kinda goes without saying that the phrase "in ozzie we trust" hasn't been around for almost a DECADE. Then Kufasi, another awesome hustle and developmental player.
This draft has multiple pro bowl corners in the first round. If we don't take one, the fans will have to "rise up!" LOL. really though. drafting and coaching are destroying the Ravens. It's not my opinion either. It's fact

[#Nevermore]

The Ravens did a great job, He will be a perennial All-Pro. Time to start building that O-line for the future. Draft a nasty left guard and center let Wagner go and move Lewis to right tackle. The two rookies with Yanda are a great start to building a very good and versatile O-line.

[sizzlingdoom]

And going off my post right below this. As someone pointed out, I'm talking about our picks over the past 7 years. Just about as long as Harbaugh has been here and inserting his influence on the draft of "high character and high football IQ guys". PUKE. So not only did Harbaugh just coach the worst season ever coached, he's screwing us over in the draft which is just as important if not more. Steve, if you read any of these, you're going to start losing fans. If you're keeping your friends around to coach, instead of people that will win

[OzzieBisciotti]

i like how we sugarcoat things - "Stanley was PFF’s 18th-best graded left tackle in the NFL over the entire season, but he would have been higher had he not dealt with a foot injury earlier in the year."

He will be solid though, but guess what he'll also be gone because we won't have enough cap space to sign in after his rookie contract comes up. Ozzie never had to deal with giving such a large portion of the salary cap to a QB/ Flacco, so it makes his job even harder- besides the bad drafts over the past 6 years, he has to be even better at what he does as a GM, but as you can see, ever since we gave Flacco that big contract, he hasn't been a good GM because he doesn't have as much money to burn anymore- that's why we haven't been able to build a good base and haven't been able to keep any of our young studs- bye, bye Brandon Williams

[RavensRegime]

He's been a bright spot this year. Lets keep building the Offensive and Defensive lines

[The Greek]

i like how we sugarcoat things - "Stanley was PFF’s 18th-best graded left tackle in the NFL over the entire season, but he would have been higher had he not dealt with a foot injury earlier in the year."

He will be solid though, but guess what he'll also be gone because we won't have enough cap space to sign in after his rookie contract comes up. Ozzie never had to deal with giving such a large portion of the salary cap to a QB/ Flacco, so it makes his job even harder- besides the bad drafts over the past 6 years, he has to be even better at what he does as a GM, but as you can see, ever since we gave Flacco that big contract, he hasn't been a good GM because he doesn't have as much money to burn anymore- that's why we haven't been able to build a good base and haven't been able to keep any of our young studs- bye, bye Brandon Williams

flacco will be gone when stanleys rookie deal is up. 3 more years for flacco. hopefully flacco improves before than

[jsarrocohome@yahoo.com]

Compared to Monroe he's the Best Ever

[jsarrocohome@yahoo.com]

He's been a bright spot this year. Lets keep building the Offensive and Defensive lines

Finally someone who knows football It truly does starts and ends upfront on both sides of the ball

[Rav'n Maniac]

Stanley was a good selection for us at #6. Now we must continue with the same mindset and build this line into a beast. It starts with resigning Wagner and getting a top Center in here along with better backups.

[GENE2407]

First he has to be reliable...........as in 16 games played, not 10. And if we're ever going to get better, we need to start drafting CBs high in the draft............not in the 5th and 7th rounds in lieu of drafting guards, tackles and tight ends in the top rounds.

[RavenManiac#7]

I was pleased when we selected Stanley at pick #6 and, after watching him this season, I'm even happier now. Projecting players' development is always risky and can, legitimately, be called guesswork. But, I read a lot of that on the article about Perriman recently. My Guess is that Stanley will, one day, be looked at as one of our wisest draft choices ever, kind of similar to another LT from the Ravens' past, the HOF great Jonathon Ogden. And Ogden didn't even play LT in his first season. Now, don't misunderstand me. I am NOT saying Stanley will be as great as Ogden was. Only time will tell how far he progresses and just how good he will become. But, he is off to a tremendous start in his career and, again, I think most will agree that he was a great selection in last year's draft. Great job, Ronnie!

[RavenManiac#7]

Stanley was a good selection for us at #6. Now we must continue with the same mindset and build this line into a beast. It starts with resigning Wagner and getting a top Center in here along with better backups.

I totally concur. Just look at the Cowboys' OL and what it's done for them. As they always, rightfully, say, the games are won and lost in the trenches. Not saying we don't need the play makers we lack and are so often talked about. But our OL, Big Time important.

[SorryNotSorry]

Let's not forgot the o-line coach, who has had a history of having blocking schemes that just are all time awful.

[RavenManiac#7]

i like how we sugarcoat things - "Stanley was PFF’s 18th-best graded left tackle in the NFL over the entire season, but he would have been higher had he not dealt with a foot injury earlier in the year."

He will be solid though, but guess what he'll also be gone because we won't have enough cap space to sign in after his rookie contract comes up. Ozzie never had to deal with giving such a large portion of the salary cap to a QB/ Flacco, so it makes his job even harder- besides the bad drafts over the past 6 years, he has to be even better at what he does as a GM, but as you can see, ever since we gave Flacco that big contract, he hasn't been a good GM because he doesn't have as much money to burn anymore- that's why we haven't been able to build a good base and haven't been able to keep any of our young studs- bye, bye Brandon Williams

Aw, c'mon! Yeah, "C'mon, Man"! I think that was a pretty fair statement, not sugar-coating. I mean, gee whiz, 18th best LT in his rookie year Despite his injury caused mid-season set back, I think, is pretty darn good. And I suspect that time will prove that he will be a heck of a lot better than solid. We'll see. And, I hope that this will be one time when we Will be able to re-sign Stanley after his rookie contract. That is, if he performs like expected. And, as for Ozzie, he Has found a way, on occasion, to keep Special players (think Yanda). And remember, you can't blame Everything on Ozzie. You don't like his drafts, ok. But we have a different FO employee who's responsible for our cap situation. And Brandon Williams really tailed off late in the season. Our entire run defense did. So, I don't think we should overpay for him.

[RavenManiac#7]

  22 hours ago, BiggMack91 said:

ogden also didn't give up a sack until his second year an that was 1 all of his second season but only gave up 26 for his hole career

Different era - different game. Those numbers will most likely never be seen again.

• Passing attempts have nearly doubled.
• Rushing specialist and schemes are more advantageous.
• Team speed per defender is off the charts.
• New blocking rules surrender more defensive advantages.

Not to take anything away from Ogden (HoF), but at the same time not to take anything away from this youngster. He deserves all the accolades. There's only one Ogden and hopefully when it's all said and done...people will be saying the same about Stanley.

Well said!

[RavenManiac#7]

  21 hours ago, Johnny-U said:

  On 1/6/2017 at 11:26 AM, BiggMack91 said:

he is average at best he got flacco hurried on numerous occasions he is no Ogden he is a consistent Oher and we all know how that turned out he is solid but I wish we would have gotten hargraves CB at 6 but I don't see stanley being a franchise LT hope we finally draft a good CB this year with 1st round pick

The best LT in the league (per PFF) is considered "average at best? Dang, its hard to please some people.

he hasn't faced a top 10 defensive line man 1-1 so how is he above average?

BiggMack, he's faced Every defensive lineman and pass rushing LB that Every team he's faced has sent his way. He's faced some good ones. Anybody's list of their top ten is opinion. If you truly don't think he's above average, I suspect you'll have a very hard time finding that many Ravens fans that will agree with you.

[RavenManiac#7]

  21 hours ago, Johnny-U said:

  22 hours ago, The Mom Gene said:

  22 hours ago, BiggMack91 said:

  23 hours ago, Steve32 said:

  On 1/6/2017 at 11:26 AM, BiggMack91 said:

he is average at best he got flacco hurried on numerous occasions he is no Ogden he is a consistent Oher and we all know how that turned out he is solid but I wish we would have gotten hargraves CB at 6 but I don't see stanley being a franchise LT hope we finally draft a good CB this year with 1st round pick

Glad Ozzie make the picks and not you!

so your happy with the bums that he picks I'm not can't wait for ozzie to be fired

Most of us are pretty happy with the guys Ozzie picks. We've had some great seasons. And really good guys... I mean afterall, Ozzie did pick Ogden, Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, among many others like Chris McAlister, and got guys like Shannon Sharpe, Derrick Mason, Todd Heap... and the list goes on and on.... SMH... I'm just amazed at how people live their lives completely ticked off about everything and everybody now a days.

Some people (BiggMack?) insist on perfection - FROM OTHERS!

yes I do (johnny-u) if you get picked in the 1st-3rd round of the draft you get payed millions to play football, so I have high expectation for those guys and they should be expected to perform to a certain level and for you to assume that people shouldn't is mind numbing to me but I understand everyone has their own opinions

C'mon, BiggMac. I suspect that you're being somewhat argumentative here. Johnny-U suggests you insist on perfection from others, and you say, "yes I do"??? Perfection??? My fellow Ravens fan, if this be the case, I can tell you, with certainty, that you will NEVER be satisfied with Any football player the Ravens will ever have. Let me make this as plain and simple as I can for you. None of us will EVER see a perfect football player because I know that Jesus is Not going to sign an NFL contract.

[TheConquerorWorm]

Let's not forgot the o-line coach, who has had a history of having blocking schemes that just are all time awful.

The O-line coach doesn't determine the blocking scheme - the OC does with his system. It's up to the O-line to coach the players on that particular system. Look at it this way, Castillo has had to teach his o-line 5 different blocking schemes in 5 years. It's no different than a QB having to learn a new system with each OC.

[TheConquerorWorm]

  On 1/6/2017 at 11:49 AM, Steve32 said:

  On 1/6/2017 at 11:26 AM, BiggMack91 said:

he is average at best he got flacco hurried on numerous occasions he is no Ogden he is a consistent Oher and we all know how that turned out he is solid but I wish we would have gotten hargraves CB at 6 but I don't see stanley being a franchise LT hope we finally draft a good CB this year with 1st round pick

Glad Ozzie make the picks and not you!

Not me. Ozzie's picks over the past 7 years have been destroying this franchise! If you need a list I'd be more than happy to provide. There have been at least 10-12 100% whiffs in rounds 1-3 over the past 7 years. Forget pro bowls, they are guys that can't even contribute at all to a victory. It's very sad, for the Ravens, and the fans. Think about that, completely whiffing on 2 of 3 picks in rounds 1,2, and 3.....for 7 years in a row!!!! That combined with our below average coaching staff, it's a miracle we went 8-8. Sizzle,Ngata, Ray, and Ed made John look good. Now he's been 100% exposed. This was literally the worst coached season in any sport I've seen my entire life. Yet Steve says bring em all back??? When all is said and done, if we keep drafting like we have been, we'll be losers for years to come.
Stanley is good. He better be good, he was picked 6th overall. Would've been nice to move back, pick up another high pick, and maybe have taken a corner in the first? Instead we move back later, for 4th round picks instead of 1rst and 2nds, and pass on franchise builders like Shepard, Spence, and Michael Thomas....And what do we do all that for.....100%WHIFF-KC. Kinda goes without saying that the phrase "in ozzie we trust" hasn't been around for almost a DECADE. Then Kufasi, another awesome hustle and developmental player.
This draft has multiple pro bowl corners in the first round. If we don't take one, the fans will have to "rise up!" LOL. really though. drafting and coaching are destroying the Ravens. It's not my opinion either. It's fact

Every team has close to the same "whiffs". Name me any pick Ozzie has made and I'll give you at least 10 guys picked BEFORE that player that been 100% busts.....

Belicheck is horrible picking in the 1st Round - I guess you think he's destroying the Pats, too? SMH

You wanted us to pick Jalen "Crying on the sideline cause he's losing" Ramsey. A soft, no heart DB - yeah that's what we needed....