2016 Playoff Discussion

[ratedr]

1 minute ago, redrum52 said:

Said this for years.

 

Question is, what do people start saying about Ryan vs Flacco WHEN he wins it all this year.

There's nothing to say. Ryan will have MVP and SB MVP in one year. That puts him in the running for sportsman of the year period. Ryan has elevated his game while Flacco has regressed.

[MadStorkSociety]

Just now, ratedr said:

There's nothing to say. Ryan will have MVP and SB MVP in one year. That puts him in the running for sportsman of the year period. Ryan has elevated his game while Flacco has regressed.

Sadly, true.

[JO_75]

We need to play this game in the film room before every game next season to remind our coaches that it's ok to keep the pedal to the floor and score anytime you want.

[MadStorkSociety]

Just now, JO_75 said:

We need to play this game in the film room before every game next season to remind our coaches that it's ok to keep the pedal to the floor and score anytime you want.

A good Raven picks at the bones til there's no meat left.

[Pats]

I'm tired, should not have had insomnia on gameday. I guess i'll catch the afc championship highlights when I wake up.

[Cville-Raven]

RIPkowski

[Militant X 1]

3 minutes ago, redrum52 said:

Said this for years.

 

Question is, what do people start saying about Ryan vs Flacco WHEN he wins it all this year.

I was just thinking the same thing.  Cause, that is what some Ravens fans have been holding over Ryan's head for not being better than Joe in their minds.

2 minutes ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

That Ryan is better. If you want me to be totally honest.

Many people feel that way.

1 minute ago, ratedr said:

There's nothing to say. Ryan will have MVP and SB MVP in one year. That puts him in the running for sportsman of the year period. Ryan has elevated his game while Flacco has regressed.

Ryan is looking good and a whole lot more polished and refined as a QB than Flacco imo.

[JO_75]

Dan Quinn just made his first mistake of the game. Not challenging the down by contact ruling when it was clear ball came out and Upshaw recovered clearly. Upshaw should be mad at Quinn for screwing up his fumble recovery. 

[redrum52]

4 minutes ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

That Ryan is better. If you want me to be totally honest.

 

3 minutes ago, ratedr said:

There's nothing to say. Ryan will have MVP and SB MVP in one year. That puts him in the running for sportsman of the year period. Ryan has elevated his game while Flacco has regressed.

I asked because for years it was the SB that was all people used to justify saying he was better.  Hurts to say too cause I've never been a Ryan fan but he's stepped his game up and Falcons this year became a team I respect.  Quinn should be in the discussion for Coach of the Year.  He's changed Falcons from a cream puff to a somewhat physical team.

[MadStorkSociety]

Did we pick up a QB coach yet?

 

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

1 minute ago, Militant X 1 said:

I was just thinking the same thing.  Cause, that is what some Ravens fans have been holding over Ryan's head for not being better than Joe in their minds.

Many people feel that way.

Ryan is looking good and a whole lot more polished and refined as a QB than Flacco imo.

 

 

What we can all hope for is that this lights a fire under Joe's butt. But we need to put more pieces around Joe. That's the only way we can get back to the big dance. As good as Ryan's been, the whole team is a very good one.

 

[Militant X 1]

4 minutes ago, JO_75 said:

We need to play this game in the film room before every game next season to remind our coaches that it's ok to keep the pedal to the floor and score anytime you want.

Absolutely!

But our coaching staff has shown that they are allergic to playing to win instead of not to lose!

[JO_75]

Refs now trying to help Green Bay.

[JO_75]

Come on now Rodgers, stop acting like Brady and whining to the officials. 

[Tank 92]

6 minutes ago, ratedr said:

There's nothing to say. Ryan will have MVP and SB MVP in one year. That puts him in the running for sportsman of the year period. Ryan has elevated his game while Flacco has regressed.

Ryan is playing great while Joe had an off year, no doubt. The question I have is what if their O line, running backs and receivers were switched. Would we still see Ryan "elevated" and Flacco "regressed"? Me thinks not. 

[BmoreBird22]

14 minutes ago, Cville-Raven said:

Which is a pretty big deal

Is it? We consistently see the same teams picking in the top 10, so there's something more than that. I think we're trying to rationalize their success and it's simply they are a better team right now. They made better FA acquisitions and drafted better.

Edited January 22 by BmoreBird22

[redlobster]

Alford is such a clown with the flop

Edited January 22 by redlobster

[redrum52]

2 minutes ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

What we can all hope for is that this lights a fire under Joe's butt. But we need to put more pieces around Joe. That's the only way we can get back to the big dance. As good as Ryan's been, the whole team is a very good one.

 

Having a true #1 makes guys like Sanuk and Gabriel so much better.  That and 2 great RBS who can catch and run routes.  Offense is loaded.  Shout out to Chris Chester too for finally playing in a sb.

[MadStorkSociety]

ATL 52 minutes before their first defensive flag.

Just now, JO_75 said:

Come on now Rodgers, stop acting like Brady and whining to the officials. 

LOL. I'll never forget Brady whining when Suggs was blocked near (not into) his feet. Of course, he got the flag.

[allblackraven]

I'm not worried about Joe. He was clearly affected by ACL tear the previous season. Put a brace on Ryan's knee and see how he does.

That being said, I think Ryan is the better QB of the two. For most of their careers, Joe was on a superior team, that was the difference.

[Florida Ravens Fan]

This game just proves you can be a beast of a QB but you still need a TEAM to win. What a crap game for Rogers.

[MadStorkSociety]

Just now, allblackraven said:

I'm not worried about Joe. He was clearly affected by ACL tear the previous season. Put a brace on Ryan's knee and see how he does.

That being said, I think Ryan is the better QB of the two. For most of their careers, Joe was on a superior team, that was the difference.

Ryan seems to observe more, read defenses, make changes. He's very active physically and it seems to impact his team. Joe seems uninvolved, detached or something. 

[ratedr]

Just now, Tank 92 said:

Ryan is playing great while Joe had an off year, no doubt. The question I have is what if their O line, running backs and receivers were switched. Would we still see Ryan "elevated" and Flacco "regressed"? Me thinks not. 

Ryan has a lot of pieces, but even without that, his deep ball is much better, his mechanics are smoother, and he's no longer the statue in the pocket he used to be. Combine that with the fact that he's always been a pretty accurate QB, and it's allowed him to take his game to the next level.

This is the work he put in during the offseason:

 

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After eight NFL seasons, the 31-year-old Ryan decided to step out of his normal offseason routine, in part, to enhance his ability to throw deep.

Ryan visited Tom House and Adam Dedeaux of the acclaimed 3DQB training facility in Los Angeles after hearing recommendations. House, a former major league pitcher and pitching coach, and Dedeaux, a former pitcher at USC, developed a program aimed to improve the overall throwing performance of quarterbacks by focusing on four key areas: functional strength and conditioning, mechanics and motion analysis, mental and emotional management, and nutrition. They've worked with Tom Brady, Drew Brees and Carson Palmer, to name a few.

Ryan spent six weeks training with Dedeaux and House. The sessions, spread over a sixth-month period on the West Coast and in Atlanta, were four to five days a week for three to four hours a day.

"You're always trying to find ways to get better, and I feel like that was an avenue for me to get better," Ryan said. "It was different-style training -- some shoulder work, some core work. And I feel really good. The ball feels really good. It's coming off well."

http://www.espn.com/blog/atlanta-falcons/post/_/id/22186/falcons-matt-ryan-dug-deeper-to-prepare-for-2016-season

Maybe Flacco will be so inspired.

[Florida Ravens Fan]

3 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

I'm not worried about Joe. He was clearly affected by ACL tear the previous season. Put a brace on Ryan's knee and see how he does.

That being said, I think Ryan is the better QB of the two. For most of their careers, Joe was on a superior team, that was the difference.

We have had a Better D for sure but Offense with the weapons Ryan has had i disagree.

Edited January 22 by Florida Ravens Fan

[BmoreBird22]

But.... but.... but.... he turned his head.

[darklight1216]

I didn't realize Courtney Upshaw was a Falcon.

Now I'm tempted to say something like "no wonder their mediocre at best on defense."

 

Can someone tell me how the Packers managed only 1 touchdown until late in the third against a team like this?

[K-Dog]

13 minutes ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

That Ryan is better. If you want me to be totally honest.

Right now? Yes. A few years ago? No.

[BmoreBird22]

4 minutes ago, redlobster said:

Alford is such a clown with the flop

You mean the clear as day facemask?

[K-Dog]

13 minutes ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

That Ryan is better. If you want me to be totally honest.

Right now? Yes. A few years ago? No.

[jdynamite]

13 minutes ago, redrum52 said:

Said this for years.

 

Question is, what do people start saying about Ryan vs Flacco WHEN he wins it all this year.

exactly what I was coming to write. I hope they win it all just to eliminate that narrative around here.   

 

Thats been the go-to anytime Rivers or Ryan is brought up.