[News] Breshad Perriman Can Be A No. 1 Receiver, But Has A Way To Go

[RavenLunatic]

When will the Ravens organization ever address the elephant in the room, that is Joe Flacco?

[TSizzle00]

Right now he just looks like a Mark Clayton, flashes of big talent. Hope he progresses further.

[TSizzle00]

22 hours ago, Purple_City39 said:

Okay, how about this.  Pitta is garbage as a blocker, both against the run and pass.  That means he's purely a receiving TE.  As a receiving TE, he was garbage as he couldn't stretch the field, his 1st down per pass ratio was one of the league's worst IIRC, and he wasn't even much of a TD threat.  His only contribution was catching the many 3 yard passes Joe threw him that the opposing team gladly gave him because it was rare for him to get yac.

I think he's done well considering nobody expected a man coming back from back to back hip injuries to do anything but soak up money. You have at least presented an argument in favor of releasing Pitta.

[Jonah DeVito]

3 hours ago, BiggMack91 said:

he is a true slot WR nothing more he can't be a #1 WR in this league because he lacks the playmaking skill and can't get off the line without giving up his route ultimately horrible first round pick ozzie needs to retire

Do you just hate your life? Do you have any positive perspective on anything? Please take the negativity somewhere else. 

[balfan23]

I'm still trying to remain optimistic about Perriman. Given that he shows flashes of playmaking ability and has yet to have a full season gives me hope. It would be nice if Marty makes up his mind that we'll actually design plays that will target him and work to get him the ball in space rather than just tell him to run around and see if he can get open. We've seen what happens if he has room to run. He's a nightmare for the opposing defense. 

[FlocksGottaFeed]

18 hours ago, ALSKAN RAVEN FAN said:

Lets get it straight " Perriman has a long ways to go" to be a true #1 WR n the NFL anyone that does not see that is either delusional and flat out drinking the purple kool-aid or just not very smart. Lets be clear I am not saying he cant be a #1 NFL WR but he has got a lot of work to do to get to that point.

Really can't agree that he's got a "long" way to go. There's just not enough games played or targets recorded to honestly evaluate that. Perriman's 1st season is similar to many recent 1-3 year #1 receivers currently.  

For Example: Comparing Antonio Brown's 3rd Season - His potential level is on pace.

BP: 33 receptions - 66 targets - 499 yards - 15 yd average - 53 yd long - 3 TD
AB: 66 receptions - 105 targets - 787 yards - 11.5 yd average - 60 yd long - 5 TD

How would that have looked if Perriman got double the targets (66 like Brown) this season and/or next season? We just don't know.

Based on similar comparisons to several #1 receivers league-wide with similar 1st-2nd-3rd year numbers one would have to honestly reserve over-evaluating potential and projecting growth after only one year of play. Purple Kool-aid or not. There's just not enough there to see yet. Once he gets #1 targets per game we'll have more to access.

[dirtybird66]

CHRIS MOORE should of been worked with alittle more.showed more in the games he was in.

[dirtybird66]

hypothetical question,if you could trade QB.FLACCO for KURT COUSINS and brought in PIERE CARCON and DESHAUN JACKSON,wood you take it??

[robbie29]

  8 hours ago, Orange_Peanut said:

The problem with his route running is because he is so fast CBs can easily detect if he's running long or not. When he does run a long route, the safety will automatically help making it a contested catch. He needs to copy Julio and be able to run multiple releases for just one route (which will take time to learn). All the battles are won at the line of scrimmage. If he can lose a CB early in the route, there's no way a safety will catch him.

Receivers can only realistically run routes that the OL gives them time to.   You cannot reasonably expect any of our receivers to run double move or hitch routes when our OL was only giving Flacco 2 seconds.   They run a 40yard dash for a reason - when your OC calls plays that are 30-40 yards it takes at least 4 seconds to develop; Flacco was never afforded a lot of time in the pocket this season. 

This is a typical Flacco-can-do-no-wrong response. Please stop blaming Flacco's lackluster performance on everything but Flacco. There were PLENTY of times where Flacco had a clean pocket but still made bad throws. He was throwing off his back foot all season and was the NFL's king of dumpoffs. Sure, he didn't have the best O Line but he also wasn't running for his life on every snap either. For a 9-year veteran, $120 million QB he left a whole lot to be desired, which has been the case since he signed his monster contract.

[FlocksGottaFeed]

45 minutes ago, dirtybird66 said:

hypothetical question,if you could trade QB.FLACCO for KURT COUSINS and brought in PIERE CARCON and DESHAUN JACKSON,wood you take it??

NO! I don't like that!!!

That said, I would love to get D Jax to fill SSS vacancy. He's got a Ravens-edge. You like that?

[RavensFanMania]

7 hours ago, PurpleRainBlackVeins said:

True number 1's just have that "it' thing. And I'm sorry, I just don't see it with Perriman. He's nothing close to AB or Odell, even Julio. A good number 2 is what I see, and he still has a long way to go to even be that.

AB needed for years to become a top wideout. Give him his second year and a training camp before saying he can't make it. It's rare to be a top wideout in the first year like To OBJ.

[RavensFanMania]

1 hour ago, dirtybird66 said:

hypothetical question,if you could trade QB.FLACCO for KURT COUSINS and brought in PIERE CARCON and DESHAUN JACKSON,wood you take it??

It's Garcon, not Carson. 

 

The answer to to your question is no.

Edited January 6 by RavensFanMania

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

1 hour ago, FlocksGottaFeed said:

Really can't agree that he's got a "long" way to go. There's just not enough games played or targets recorded to honestly evaluate that. Perriman's 1st season is similar to many recent 1-3 year #1 receivers currently.  

For Example: Comparing Antonio Brown's 3rd Season - His potential level is on pace.

BP: 33 receptions - 66 targets - 499 yards - 15 yd average - 53 yd long - 3 TD
AB: 66 receptions - 105 targets - 787 yards - 11.5 yd average - 60 yd long - 5 TD

How would that have looked if Perriman got double the targets (66 like Brown) this season and/or next season? We just don't know.

Based on similar comparisons to several #1 receivers league-wide with similar 1st-2nd-3rd year numbers one would have to honestly reserve over-evaluating potential and projecting growth after only one year of play. Purple Kool-aid or not. There's just not enough there to see yet. Once he gets #1 targets per game we'll have more to access.

A true #1 WR in the NFL causes teams to roll the coverage his way or gets double teamed on most plays. Perriman has got a long way to go to get to that point. Now just so we are on the same page Perriman can be a #1 NFL WR it's all on him to do it though. As far as your comparison AB is a true #1 WR now but not at the 3rd year those numbers just don't add up. A true #1 WR can carry the team and makes catches during critical moments of the game  and that means having both feet down inbounds with total control of the ball. To be a true #1 WR Perriman has got a long ways to go. Maybe he makes that jump this off season but it's a very wide canyon not a crack in the sidewalk. We have had plenty of WR;'s in Baltimore and plenty of open challenges for the #1 guy but it only seemed like the free agents Oz brought in or the guy he traded for was willing to step up and take the job when they were open. 3 years is a long ways to go thats just a little less than 1/3 of a 10 year career in the NFL. 

Edited January 6 by ALSKAN RAVEN FAN

[Militant X 1]

3 hours ago, balfan23 said:

I'm still trying to remain optimistic about Perriman. Given that he shows flashes of playmaking ability and has yet to have a full season gives me hope. It would be nice if Marty makes up his mind that we'll actually design plays that will target him and work to get him the ball in space rather than just tell him to run around and see if he can get open. We've seen what happens if he has room to run. He's a nightmare for the opposing defense. 

That's been my issue with this offense.  These coaches don't seem to know "how" to utilize or "scheme" their personnel properly.  That's a major handicap.

[Ugly Ball]

If the past is any guide he will probably develop into a talented enough player in 2018 that we won't be able to afford to re-sign him.

As long as we have Vets that can get the job done, we have been slow to coach up many players. Then their final year on their rookie contracts come up and we can't afford to keep them.
One more reason I think our coaches should be call out.

[robbie29]

This was indeed his rookie season. Joe needs to take the time and get his receivers together so that they can gel during camp and preseason so that they can do damage week 1. 

Perriman has all of the physical tools. He has the height, strength and blazing speed. He has hands, but needs to focus. Many of his drops came from focusing upfield before finishing the catch. 

Get his route running improved. Build a rapport with Flacco, use creative plays to get him in space and we will have another weapon in the AFC North.

How many college athletes are tall, strong, and fast? Several. A good WR must have good hands- consistently (not Perriman), and must run routes well (not Perriman). OBJ is slower, shorter, and smaller than Perriman. But there isn't a Ravens fan living that would take Breshad over Odell. It's not about height, weight, and speed. It's about hands, agility, and focus.

[#Nevermore]

The only reason why he needs to make all these athletic plays is because he can't run routes well. The day he learns to run routes will be the day he wrecks the league, especially with a cannon-armed Flacco. It'll be a process but I like what I see so far.

I completely agree. Also he needs to be on the field more going forward which should happen with the retirement of SSS.

[#Nevermore]

Mike Williams,Clemson, wr. Game breaker.

That guy is going to be good. He reminds me of Hopkins. He won't last until our pick though.

[RavensRegime]

This was basically his rookie season. He has the potential, i hope he learns from the mistakes and get better during the offseason. The drops and the route running should be his focal points..

[jsarrocohome@yahoo.com]

  On ‎1‎/‎6‎/‎2017 at 2:09 AM, RavensDieHard21 said:

This was indeed his rookie season. Joe needs to take the time and get his receivers together so that they can gel during camp and preseason so that they can do damage week 1. 

Perriman has all of the physical tools. He has the height, strength and blazing speed. He has hands, but needs to focus. Many of his drops came from focusing upfield before finishing the catch. 

Get his route running improved. Build a rapport with Flacco, use creative plays to get him in space and we will have another weapon in the AFC North.

How many college athletes are tall, strong, and fast? Several. A good WR must have good hands- consistently (not Perriman), and must run routes well (not Perriman). OBJ is slower, shorter, and smaller than Perriman. But there isn't a Ravens fan living that would take Breshad over Odell. It's not about height, weight, and speed. It's about hands, agility, and focus.

Give the guy a chance he's hardly played and did some very good things scored 4 TD's in Limited opportunities The best receiver ever in the NFL had a lot more drop's than perriman did in his first year and that would be jerry Rice ALSO how many TD's did Aiken score yeah that's right 1

[whobilly]

This was basically his rookie season. He has the potential, i hope he learns from the mistakes and get better during the offseason. The drops and the route running should be his focal points..

......along with toughness and heart

[BigUgly]

16 hours ago, dirtybird66 said:

hypothetical question,if you could trade QB.FLACCO for KURT COUSINS and brought in PIERE CARCON and DESHAUN JACKSON,wood you take it??

None of that would matter unless you created an offense and called the plays to go downfield.  What we have here is the worst instance of a West Coast offense.

[RavenManiac#7]

  On 1/5/2017 at 7:08 PM, TheConquerorWorm said:

  On 1/5/2017 at 6:35 PM, whobilly said:

I could accept this mediocre WR if he was drafted in the 5th or 6th round.

He did 1,000 times better than the 7th Overall pick (WR Kevin White) and the 20th overall pick (Nelson Agholor) and much better than pretty much all of the WRs drafted that year.

And scored as many TDs as Wonderboy Stefan Diggs.

You just confirmed what I said. You just compared him with all the other mediocre WR's.

No. He didn't confirm what you said. Yes, he Compared Permian to what You have decided are mediocre wrs, but he said that he did Better. Listen, the bottom line is that this really was Perriman's first year on the field, and the Vast majority of #1 wrs take time to develop. Antonio Brown, even the great Jerry Rice took time. Why are so many people on here so quick to write off Perriman's chances of becoming a #1 when, truly, Only time will tell? I don't know if Perriman will develop into a #1 wr, and nobody else knows that either at this point. Yes, we can all have opinions, or guesses, but that's all. And my guess is that of all the wrs Currently on our roster, he has the best chance of any of them to develop into a #1. And that's All it is, a guess. Well, it's a hope as well.

[RavenManiac#7]

Sorry, didn't catch that doggone spellcheck on Perriman's name the first time in that last post. I hate spellcheck!

[jsarrocohome@yahoo.com]

  19 hours ago, dirtybird66 said:

hypothetical question,if you could trade QB.FLACCO for KURT COUSINS and brought in PIERE CARCON and DESHAUN JACKSON,wood you take it??

None of that would matter unless you created an offense and called the plays to go downfield.  What we have here is the worst instance of a West Coast offense.

No

[jsarrocohome@yahoo.com]

This was basically his rookie season. He has the potential, i hope he learns from the mistakes and get better during the offseason. The drops and the route running should be his focal points..

Route running is Coaching

[jsarrocohome@yahoo.com]

CHRIS MOORE should of been worked with alittle more.showed more in the games he was in.

He needs to put on about 10 Lbs of muscle on them chicken wings but I think he's going to be a good player

[jsarrocohome@yahoo.com]

Right now he just looks like a Mark Clayton, flashes of big talent. Hope he progresses further.

I don't know who you are looking at Perrimans a hell of a lot better than clayton and he's only played 1 year with no training camp the guys going to be a baller

[Bluesteel183]

If the team were not having the problems they are having, he would deserve another try. But he has consistently shown he is not up to it, and injuries are is weakness. Dump him and draft a good WR with the first pick. Flacco is just an average ( High Paid ) QB and without good players around him will continue to loose games.

[ravensnj]

On 1/6/2017 at 2:38 PM, TSizzle00 said:

I think he's done well considering nobody expected a man coming back from back to back hip injuries to do anything but soak up money. You have at least presented an argument in favor of releasing Pitta.

Yeah, I really didn't think he should be used in blocking, it's a lot of pressure on the hip. He might have slacked off a little, as any stress on the hip could have sent him back to the IR, career ending or permanent life damaging. I believe one good off season of healing and strengthening should do wonders. I am in favor of keeping Pitta. 

 

Edited January 7 by ravensnj