[News] Joe Flacco, Dennis Pitta Don't Foresee Change At Offensive Coordinator

[BR News]

Ravens quarterback Joe Flacco said he doesn’t anticipate a change being made. Tight end Dennis Pitta said he would like to see some consistency on offense.

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[Minionhunter]

If this is true, that no change at OC is coming, then I am in agreement that Harbs should be fired. Marty and Castillo should be fired at a minimum. This is more disturbing than the season we just endured. I can accept that John made the mistake of not getting rid of Trestman after last year, but to not correct it now means that he really can't self evaluate and will destroy this team next year, the only variable will be how long he sets it back. I really can't believe I'm reading this.

[Minionhunter]

Please, someone tell me this is a joke article. That my team is not committing suicide by keeping Marty as the OC.

[NNITRED]

Basically Joe , Yanda , and Dennis saying they have thier issues but want to keep thier name out of it. They don't want some journalist or blogger to have anything to run with and exaggerate .

[Purple Dawg 96]

Keep Marty and look at the film during that 4 game loosing streak! The skins cowboys pats were the only teams that really beat us the squeelers finally won but it shouldn't have knocked us out the playoffs! The Ravens just need Joe to play better and lead this team and we will be fine! Pump fakes slants post patterns and double moves are a must next season because defenses are reading and reacting fast like our Defense!

[BigUgly]

Oh, I'm sure Joe is happy with the pass-heavy offense that features his good buddy Dennis, but he shouldn't be pleased with the outcome. Joe needs the training wheels put back on by a competent, strong-willed OC.

[Moderator 3]

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Baltimore’s offense got better as the year went on. It moved the ball with more efficiency over the four-game span from Week 13 to Week 16. The Ravens averaged 28.8 points over that period and Flacco turned in some of his best games.

The Ravens threw their way to a 38-point outburst against the Miami Dolphins and had strong showings in New England, versus the Philadelphia Eagles and in Pittsburgh.

 

[Minionhunter]

They didn't have a strong offensive game vs. NE. Not at all.

[designermaryland]

I agree with Minionhunter. I actually can believe this is the reaction because of the lack of football IQ by both Joe and Harbs. They are both clueless. If they feel offensive production of 20 TD's the entire season is adequate, no offensive rhythm the entire year and horrific ineffectiveness, it is even more disturbing than the on-field product. It proves they have no self awareness of their performance and are severely disillusioned that they had a good year. This is completely deserving of a house cleaning including Harbaugh, Marty M., Pees, and perhaps Ozzie. If they are satisfied with being in the bottom tier of the league, they should be immediately relieved of their positions. Flacco is ripe for a trade in the offseason too.

[ellicottraven]

If these two BFFs know there isn't going to be any change at OC, then God save the Ravens. Change is not only necessary at the coordinator positions, it is mandatory! Flacco will learn a new system even if that means working harder than ever before, because the status quo of leading the league in pass attempts at around 6yd per completion is unacceptable and a recipe for total failure. If we want to win games, Flacco cannot be allowed to pass more times than we run the ball. Let him put in the time to learn a new system if that's what it takes. Isn't that why he is being paid the big bucks>

We need an OC that will hold all the offensive players accountable and create a system that is balanced and the players better fall in line or else kind of coach. Flacco needs somebody that is tough and also is unafraid to make him do exactly what the OC wants.

Edited January 2 by ellicottraven

[Minionhunter]

They abandoned the run game and the deep ball, and continued this pattern with Marty. We will be easy to defend and this will lead to failure because Marty sure didn't show any ability to adapt or be remotely creative. He didn't even have them ready for a two minute drill at NE. He is slow getting the plays called. If this is true, next year will be horrible to watch a team worse than this year because everyone playing the Ravens will know exactly how to stop them.

[Crusader]

Please, someone tell me this is a joke article. That my team is not committing suicide by keeping Marty as the OC.

Well, if this is the only way to bring real change is to let them replay another 8-8 season to prove beyond a doubt so be it, but its a very bad marketing strategy.

[ellicottraven]

25 minutes ago, Minionhunter said:

Please, someone tell me this is a joke article. That my team is not committing suicide by keeping Marty as the OC.

I am praying it is an April Fool's article in January!

[mybuddymac]

I agree with Minionhunter. I actually can believe this is the reaction because of the lack of football IQ by both Joe and Harbs. They are both clueless. If they feel offensive production of 20 TD's the entire season is adequate, no offensive rhythm the entire year and horrific ineffectiveness, it is even more disturbing than the on-field product. It proves they have no self awareness of their performance and are severely disillusioned that they had a good year. This is completely deserving of a house cleaning including Harbaugh, Marty M., Pees, and perhaps Ozzie. If they are satisfied with being in the bottom tier of the league, they should be immediately relieved of their positions. Flacco is ripe for a trade in the offseason too.

I should say that first and foremost we ARE NOT in the bottom tier of the league. Sitting at 8-8 with a few games we SHOULD have won. Now granted I'll agree with you that Coaching infuriated me in the games, but cutting Harbaugh at this junction in time is not the answer. With that being said I'm all for putting our current OC on the chopping block. Give Joe control of the 2-minute drill, that's why he's so slow getting to the line, he's waiting for the play call. Keep Pees for shore, Defense played well this year, maybe not down the stretch but overall they played well. Finally we have Ozzie, I'm so conflicted here because a large part of me loves him too much to call for him being relieved of duty. He's failed on quite a few early picks recently, I love, love, love, Ronnie Stanley but when I heard the names of our 2nd and 3rd rounder's I was scratching my head. CJ and Stanley seem to be our only reliable 1st rounder's since drafting Joe back almost a decade ago. I think Ozzie is still finding talent in the later rounds the only problem being is that we can never retain these players once they start shining. So overall I think the positives on keeping Ozzie far outweigh the negatives. Could be worst....we could be Cleveland (A true "bottom tier" team)

[jsarrocohome@yahoo.com]

  41 minutes ago, Minionhunter said:

Please, someone tell me this is a joke article. That my team is not committing suicide by keeping Marty as the OC.

I am praying it is an April Fool's article in January!

Marty Ill take the wind for the win morningwig MUST Go and any body that doesn't think so needs to go with him he's TERRIBLE makes the same mistakes over and over doesn't know how to run the Ball doesn't use personal correctly not to mention doesn't know how to call agame if they don't get rid of marty and pees this time next year we will be looking for a new Head coach

[jsarrocohome@yahoo.com]

They didn't have a strong offensive game vs. NE. Not at all.

they only had one good Off game all year against miami

[Minionhunter]

Do you really like the lack of play action Joe? Do you really like throwing it behind the sticks? Do you really like receivers not getting open for you? Do you really like no running game by choice? Because none of this will change without the OC changing, he couldn't even adapt at halftime.

I'm sure you are unbelievably sick of the constant turnover which has stunted your professional career, but this isn't the time. Rick will be free in zero time flat if not free now, scream until they reinstate Gary's system.

My only other choice is to fall in with the crew that thinks you are clueless.

Steve B may have to step in to save the day again.

[jsarrocohome@yahoo.com]

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Baltimore’s offense got better as the year went on. It moved the ball with more efficiency over the four-game span from Week 13 to Week 16. The Ravens averaged 28.8 points over that period and Flacco turned in some of his best games.

The Ravens threw their way to a 38-point outburst against the Miami Dolphins and had strong showings in New England, versus the Philadelphia Eagles and in Pittsburgh.

 

And they still lost Because Marty is to stupid to Run the damn ball in each of the games you mentioned they ran the ball well and then marty stopped running WHY WHY WHY

[Minionhunter]

  35 minutes ago, designermaryland said:

I agree with Minionhunter. I actually can believe this is the reaction because of the lack of football IQ by both Joe and Harbs. They are both clueless. If they feel offensive production of 20 TD's the entire season is adequate, no offensive rhythm the entire year and horrific ineffectiveness, it is even more disturbing than the on-field product. It proves they have no self awareness of their performance and are severely disillusioned that they had a good year. This is completely deserving of a house cleaning including Harbaugh, Marty M., Pees, and perhaps Ozzie. If they are satisfied with being in the bottom tier of the league, they should be immediately relieved of their positions. Flacco is ripe for a trade in the offseason too.

I should say that first and foremost we ARE NOT in the bottom tier of the league. Sitting at 8-8 with a few games we SHOULD have won. Now granted I'll agree with you that Coaching infuriated me in the games, but cutting Harbaugh at this junction in time is not the answer. With that being said I'm all for putting our current OC on the chopping block. Give Joe control of the 2-minute drill, that's why he's so slow getting to the line, he's waiting for the play call. Keep Pees for shore, Defense played well this year, maybe not down the stretch but overall they played well. Finally we have Ozzie, I'm so conflicted here because a large part of me loves him too much to call for him being relieved of duty. He's failed on quite a few early picks recently, I love, love, love, Ronnie Stanley but when I heard the names of our 2nd and 3rd rounder's I was scratching my head. CJ and Stanley seem to be our only reliable 1st rounder's since drafting Joe back almost a decade ago. I think Ozzie is still finding talent in the later rounds the only problem being is that we can never retain these players once they start shining. So overall I think the positives on keeping Ozzie far outweigh the negatives. Could be worst....we could be Cleveland (A true "bottom tier" team)

For everyone that is panning Ozzie, I really think you need to look at turnover in the scouting staff. It has been plundered of all the most valuable talent, so much so that it may have compromised the ability of Ozzie to get it right. I think that this would be an awesome research article for Hensley or Zerbiac to tackle.

[jsarrocohome@yahoo.com]

Keep Marty and look at the film during that 4 game loosing streak! The skins cowboys pats were the only teams that really beat us the squeelers finally won but it shouldn't have knocked us out the playoffs! The Ravens just need Joe to play better and lead this team and we will be fine! Pump fakes slants post patterns and double moves are a must next season because defenses are reading and reacting fast like our Defense!

you got to kidding marty is horrible

[Minionhunter]

I hope that maybe this is smokescreen for a big move. I guess we will find out or get an inclination tomorrow at 11am.

[CaliRavenFan]

The only thing you need to know about Marty is he actually called a OFFENSIVE LINEMAN screen pass on a 3rd and 2.. He has more trust in Alex Lewis catching the ball and breaking a tackle to get those 2 yards than he does Dixon or West picking up those same exact 2 yards with an extra LINEMAN and Juice blocking..

[jsarrocohome@yahoo.com]

The only thing you need to know about Marty is he actually called a OFFENSIVE LINEMAN screen pass on a 3rd and 2.. He has more trust in Alex Lewis catching the ball and breaking a tackle to get those 2 yards than he does Dixon or West picking up those same exact 2 yards with an extra LINEMAN and Juice blocking..

only because marty's an idiot

[NorthOfTheBorder]

Just my opinion maybe, but it seems like while the team has so many weapons, the problem with consistency on offense is partly because they haven't done a good enough job to scheme plays for the talent they have.

Sometimes they do and it works really well (Ex. Campanaro reverse sweep) but overall they need to call plays that better utilize their weapons. That's why teams like the Pats do so well, because they scheme for their skill players to do well (ex. Gronk in isolation, Edelman/Amendola over the middle, etc.)

It would be nice to see more crossing routes for Perriman to use his speed, screen passes to Juice and better run packages for the running backs to be successful. We know they can do it because when they applied a targeted strategy in the Miami game they lit it up. Take that same philosophy and apply it each week and let your skilled players do what they do best and relieve some pressure from Joe so he doesn't feel like he needs to force things to make a play. If Marty has an offseason to prep, there's no reason why these changes can't be made, but they need to have someone willing to make them...

Cheers from Canada and GO RAVENS!

Edited January 3 by NorthOfTheBorder

[jsarrocohome@yahoo.com]

  28 minutes ago, mybuddymac said:

  49 minutes ago, designermaryland said:

I agree with Minionhunter. I actually can believe this is the reaction because of the lack of football IQ by both Joe and Harbs. They are both clueless. If they feel offensive production of 20 TD's the entire season is adequate, no offensive rhythm the entire year and horrific ineffectiveness, it is even more disturbing than the on-field product. It proves they have no self awareness of their performance and are severely disillusioned that they had a good year. This is completely deserving of a house cleaning including Harbaugh, Marty M., Pees, and perhaps Ozzie. If they are satisfied with being in the bottom tier of the league, they should be immediately relieved of their positions. Flacco is ripe for a trade in the offseason too.

I should say that first and foremost we ARE NOT in the bottom tier of the league. Sitting at 8-8 with a few games we SHOULD have won. Now granted I'll agree with you that Coaching infuriated me in the games, but cutting Harbaugh at this junction in time is not the answer. With that being said I'm all for putting our current OC on the chopping block. Give Joe control of the 2-minute drill, that's why he's so slow getting to the line, he's waiting for the play call. Keep Pees for shore, Defense played well this year, maybe not down the stretch but overall they played well. Finally we have Ozzie, I'm so conflicted here because a large part of me loves him too much to call for him being relieved of duty. He's failed on quite a few early picks recently, I love, love, love, Ronnie Stanley but when I heard the names of our 2nd and 3rd rounder's I was scratching my head. CJ and Stanley seem to be our only reliable 1st rounder's since drafting Joe back almost a decade ago. I think Ozzie is still finding talent in the later rounds the only problem being is that we can never retain these players once they start shining. So overall I think the positives on keeping Ozzie far outweigh the negatives. Could be worst....we could be Cleveland (A true "bottom tier" team)

For everyone that is panning Ozzie, I really think you need to look at turnover in the scouting staff. It has been plundered of all the most valuable talent, so much so that it may have compromised the ability of Ozzie to get it right. I think that this would be an awesome research article for Hensley or Zerbiac to tackle.

That's no exuse

[TheConquerorWorm]

  20 minutes ago, mybuddymac said:

  41 minutes ago, designermaryland said:

I agree with Minionhunter. I actually can believe this is the reaction because of the lack of football IQ by both Joe and Harbs. They are both clueless. If they feel offensive production of 20 TD's the entire season is adequate, no offensive rhythm the entire year and horrific ineffectiveness, it is even more disturbing than the on-field product. It proves they have no self awareness of their performance and are severely disillusioned that they had a good year. This is completely deserving of a house cleaning including Harbaugh, Marty M., Pees, and perhaps Ozzie. If they are satisfied with being in the bottom tier of the league, they should be immediately relieved of their positions. Flacco is ripe for a trade in the offseason too.

I should say that first and foremost we ARE NOT in the bottom tier of the league. Sitting at 8-8 with a few games we SHOULD have won. Now granted I'll agree with you that Coaching infuriated me in the games, but cutting Harbaugh at this junction in time is not the answer. With that being said I'm all for putting our current OC on the chopping block. Give Joe control of the 2-minute drill, that's why he's so slow getting to the line, he's waiting for the play call. Keep Pees for shore, Defense played well this year, maybe not down the stretch but overall they played well. Finally we have Ozzie, I'm so conflicted here because a large part of me loves him too much to call for him being relieved of duty. He's failed on quite a few early picks recently, I love, love, love, Ronnie Stanley but when I heard the names of our 2nd and 3rd rounder's I was scratching my head. CJ and Stanley seem to be our only reliable 1st rounder's since drafting Joe back almost a decade ago. I think Ozzie is still finding talent in the later rounds the only problem being is that we can never retain these players once they start shining. So overall I think the positives on keeping Ozzie far outweigh the negatives. Could be worst....we could be Cleveland (A true "bottom tier" team)

For everyone that is panning Ozzie, I really think you need to look at turnover in the scouting staff. It has been plundered of all the most valuable talent, so much so that it may have compromised the ability of Ozzie to get it right. I think that this would be an awesome research article for Hensley or Zerbiac to tackle.

Most valuable talent? They lost Joe Douglas to the Bears last year, who went to the Eagles this year and took Andy Weidl with him. The Bears draft pick when Douglas was there - WR Kevin White who's seen the field less than Perriman despite being drafted 7th OVERALL. What did he do in Philly this year? Traded 2 x 1st Round picks, 2nd Round pick, 3rd Round pick to move up 6 spots to draft Wentz. Wentz looked lost at the end of the season against good teams and threw 16 TDs vs 14 INTS. Not exactly the guy I trade away my two entire drafts for.

In fact, you can make a case based of the quality of this draft, that maybe those guys were the problem and letting them walk was the best move.

[Ravensfansince03]

Harbaugh needs to go.

[Ravensfansince03]

Ray Lewis for General Manager/Head Coach???

[Ravens8383]

Harbaugh needs to go.

And if he were to go who do you suggest they bring in to replace him? Chip Kelly, Rex Ryan?

[Crusader]

Come on fans we can do this! We can break the 8-8 record without Kubiak just need 3 or 4 more years.