[News] Now Ravens Have To Find A Way To Fill Steve Smith's Void

[Rav'n Maniac]

They may be able to fill the spot and some of the production but, they'll never be able to replace the man.

[Purple Dawg 96]

Look for the next Antonio Brown and that will be fine! Perriman Is 6ft so now gotta find that freak that wants the ball under 6ft they can get open faster but ball location is important and Joe's has been off when needed on certain key plays! He get 4000yds but if he can't get it done when we need it all them yards don't matter! I like AB he and OBJ from Miami hmmmmmmm!

[The Beak]

To me its clear there's John Ross then everybody else. This kid is special has a knack for big plays....

[Drinkmore Beer]

We knew SSS was going to retire, so why didn't we snatch Michael Floyd instead of the Pats? He knocked over 5 guys to score a TD for Brady last week. The reason the Pats contend for the SB every year isn't just Brady. They also have the best coaches and front office.

[mc_red23]

Is he the Washington guy? Alabama shut that guy down which was impressive. He seems like a great talent though.

Edited January 3 by mc_red23

[mc_red23]

1 minute ago, Drinkmore Beer said:

We knew SSS was going to retire, so why didn't we snatch Michael Floyd instead of the Pats? He knocked over 5 guys to score a TD for Brady last week. The reason the Pats contend for the SB every year isn't just Brady. They also have the best coaches and front office.

It's such bad preparation on our part to not bring in a really good wide receiver to get used to the system for when SSS did retire. Now he's gone and we're wondering where to go next. 

[Edug27]

I have hope for Perriman. He's young and can continue to develop. I'm not a fan of bringing Mike Wallace back. I'd rather give those deep routes to Perriman and Moore... and acquire a sure handed chain mover. Wallace is not going to fight for a first down catch in a critical moment of the game. If Flacco doesn't drop it perfectly in his lap, then it's an incomplete. And lately, that's asking a lot of Flacco.

[whobilly]

  13 hours ago, RavenMike said:

  15 hours ago, gtalk12 said:

  16 hours ago, RavenMike said:

I agree.  I truly believe we would have had another SB if we had brought AB back after the superbowl 2012.  Talk about play like a raven - he personifies it.  Caldwell was obviously smart enough to bring him in to Detroit.  Stafford loves the guy across the middle.

yea ask Megatron

Not sure what you mean... I'm pointing out that we are now looking for another slot receiver to replace Steve Smith Sr. when we could have kept AB and we would have had him for 4 additional years by simply honoring the man's contract. Don't get me wrong, I love our Ravens, but getting sick and tired of the revolving door when we have a lot of talent that we let get away.

Talent killer is called Joe's contract. Looking back 8 years from now, fans will be saying we should never gave him that deal.

WRONG. What's the option, Ryan Fitzpatrick?

[whobilly]

  17 hours ago, whobilly said:

Have to grin about Chris Collingsworth's comment last night. "He runs about a 4.8 forty but finds a way and has the tenacity to come up with the ball". Anquan Boldin. "Only" 67 catches and 8 TD's this season. So he's "Only" averaged about 70 catches a year since we basically let him go for next to nothing. Stop with the Campanarro, Moore, and several other WR's that are simply roster fillers. Mike Wallace could be our only legit WR heading into the 2017 season. If Perriman has 35-40 catches that pick would have been nice if he was picked in the 4th or 5th round.

Hindsight is 20/20. At the time, the Ravens had Torrey Smith who looked like he was emerging into a legit #1. They had Pitta who was easily morphing into a 80 catch TE. We had a ton of free agents that year - Joe Flacco, Paul Kruger, Danny Ellerbe, Cary Williams, Morgan Cox, James Ihedigbo, Ed Reed, Art Jones, etc. and the following year - Dennis Pitta, Michael Oher, Eugene Monroe, Daryl Smith, Corey Graham. We knew that some of those would have to go, but almost all would have to go if we kept Boldin. Boldin was one of highest paid WR in the league. Given that he was, at best, the 3rd or 4th option on offense, the Ravens asked him to take a pay cut from his $8 million per year, he declined, so they traded him. Had they not traded him, they couldn't have signed Dumerville or more importantly, SSS who's averaged 70 catches at half the price. Mike Wallace caught 70 balls this year - is he worth $12 million per year (as one of the highest paid WR)? That's the question the Ravens faced at the time with Boldin.

He would have restructured his contract. He found out he was traded after he got off a flight on a mission trip. SAD.

[Crusader]

  9 hours ago, Crusader said:

  13 hours ago, RavenMike said:

  15 hours ago, gtalk12 said:

  16 hours ago, RavenMike said:

I agree.  I truly believe we would have had another SB if we had brought AB back after the superbowl 2012.  Talk about play like a raven - he personifies it.  Caldwell was obviously smart enough to bring him in to Detroit.  Stafford loves the guy across the middle.

yea ask Megatron

Not sure what you mean... I'm pointing out that we are now looking for another slot receiver to replace Steve Smith Sr. when we could have kept AB and we would have had him for 4 additional years by simply honoring the man's contract. Don't get me wrong, I love our Ravens, but getting sick and tired of the revolving door when we have a lot of talent that we let get away.

Talent killer is called Joe's contract. Looking back 8 years from now, fans will be saying we should never gave him that deal.

WRONG. What's the option, Ryan Fitzpatrick?

Just wait and see. In short term watch what happens to Dallas when they have to pay all those first round offensive lineman. Then you see how good the QB is. Its just the way of the NFL.

[kevraves]

yeah...you couldn't deny the chemistry between boldin and Joe...the late game heroics was a result of those 2...it takes a special guy to catch the ball no matter how and where you throw it...they took over a lot of games...during that SB run.

[RavenManiac#7]

It's way to early to starting to focus seriously on names, and our cap situation is unknown at this point, but is generally not very advantageous to us but, nevertheless, I will say that Alshon Jeffery is a receiver whom I have always felt could be beneficial to us. His injury past would have to be considered, potential cost to sign, our cap-space would need to be looked at. I'm just saying, that is a name that jumped out at me. A lot can, and will, happen and, of course, time will tell. Just a very quick, initial thought, that's all.

[Purple Hazard]

I'm not a fan of a filling the void strategy. Especially if you need to fill the shoes of a legend. We just need to find other playmakers who can do their own special things.

[ravensnj]

11 hours ago, Drinkmore Beer said:

We knew SSS was going to retire, so why didn't we snatch Michael Floyd instead of the Pats? He knocked over 5 guys to score a TD for Brady last week. The reason the Pats contend for the SB every year isn't just Brady. They also have the best coaches and front office.

I can't believe he made it through waivers all the way to the Pats! These GM's in the NFL should be ashamed of themselves. He must have extra baggage that we have not heard about. But there is one thing is for certain......he surely solidifies the Patriots as Super Bowl favorites. YUK!!!!

[ravensnj]

11 hours ago, Edug27 said:

I have hope for Perriman. He's young and can continue to develop. I'm not a fan of bringing Mike Wallace back. I'd rather give those deep routes to Perriman and Moore... and acquire a sure handed chain mover. Wallace is not going to fight for a first down catch in a critical moment of the game. If Flacco doesn't drop it perfectly in his lap, then it's an incomplete. And lately, that's asking a lot of Flacco.

None of these guys attempt to fight for a contested ball, leaving it uncontested for the cb.

[Flamengo1265]

We better look for someone in free agency....I don't trust Ozzie when it comes to drafting WR's.

[RavenManiac#7]

I wish I could be an adviser to Steve Biscotii/Ozzie. I swear I would get this organization back on the right track. I know a lot of you will read what I said and say "yeah, so could every other fan" with sarcasm. But I really would be able to get this team back on track. I see things that many people do not see. Swear if Ozzie/Biscotti would just give me one chance, I wouldn't even ask for pay, just want to prove to them that I can help them make the right decisions on coaches/players. Our personnel is obviously filled with guys who THINK they know what they are doing, I can instill that necessary spark needed to get this team back on track.

What kind of experience do you have that makes you so sure that you know the right moves to make in the NFL, which is supposed to be a league with the best of the best, to produce a winning team? I am not scoffing at you. I am truly curious to learn how you can be so sure that you are that undiscovered talent that knows how to build a successful team at this level. Like even You said, there are many people who have opinions and think that their's are the ones that are right. But, you sound so positive about it. I'm really curious about where such a level of confidence is coming from.

[RavenManiac#7]

I just want this team to finally rid itself of the WR handicap that's plagued it basically the whole franchise.

So true. And so sad. Twenty years and Never had a true #1. Yes, we've had a few pretty good ones, but just a few, and NO true #1. And when all you've got is a pretty good one, with no better option for your QB, and not much other help from the other wrs, really just roster fillers, that's just Not the recipe for a good passing game. But it's the story of the Baltimore Ravens. So sad.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

On 1/2/2017 at 5:18 PM, sami said:

its not our receivers, its the stupid routes they run and they way they are taught to run them. Put that on the coaches, not the receivers. It would also help if we had a QB that could hit in them in stride instead of underthrowing, over throwing or hanging the ball in the air for so long.

I mentioned this in another thread that one consistent theme over the last few years has been WR coach Bobby Engram. Same coach, same issues. Our guys do not know how to get themselves open versus press or zone coverage. The only guy that could read zone and get open was Pitta and that's something he's been able to do all his career.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

I find this rather funny and sad at the same time.

We're seriously asking ourselves what in the world we're going to do without a 37 year old WR that was coming off of a double Achilles tendon tear because THAT guy was our BEST receiver?

Funny: Because we've had that guy over the years in Mason and Boldin and they put up better numbers than Smith did here.  Sure, passion and all is great, but give me results. I am sure there is a WR out there wearing out his welcome coming into the twilight of his career that we can milk for a few more seasons and turn him into something more than he really is because on our team he'll be a #1 option when on other teams he'd be relegated to 3rd.

Sad: Because we have to sign guys like this because we can't draft or develop well enough to stop from having to sign guys like this.

Side note:

Seen Kenny Wright's name being mentioned and he's interesting. He had a couple of good season in Tennessee before falling out of favor due to injuries and then missing team meetings. He might be a nice slot option because I don't think we can count on Campanaro's health.

Brandon Marshall's time in New York may be done. I know he's had some issues, but if the team is doing well and he's getting the ball like he should, he's proven to be more than just a solid receiver. His price tag might be pretty heftier based on his past results. You definitely have to keep him happy and motivated, but when you do you get a proven playmaker that scored the football. It might also help that he's 6'4'' 229lbs.

[Ravensfansince03]

#TheDraft

[Ravensfansince03]

We better look for someone in free agency....I don't trust Ozzie when it comes to drafting WR's.

It's not Ozzie. It's these lackluster scouts they have

[R@venFan808]

On 1/3/2017 at 3:31 AM, The Beak said:

To me its clear there's John Ross then everybody else. This kid is special has a knack for big plays....

I totes agree i drool when i watch his speed on tape. I would be excited if we get that blazing take the top off defenses ability back. Make those safeties play deep and give our run game a chance to dominate. 

[R@venFan808]

6 minutes ago, Ravensfansince03 said:

It's not Ozzie. It's these lackluster scouts they have

Yes it's there fault they didn't see injury. Stupid scouts get it right! I mean last years draft was stupid Dixon, lewis , young , stanley. Stupid scouts get it together ! (roll eyes)

Edited January 4 by R@venFan808

[R@venFan808]

7 hours ago, EdTheMythicalOne said:

I find this rather funny and sad at the same time.

We're seriously asking ourselves what in the world we're going to do without a 37 year old WR that was coming off of a double Achilles tendon tear because THAT guy was our BEST receiver?

Funny: Because we've had that guy over the years in Mason and Boldin and they put up better numbers than Smith did here.  Sure, passion and all is great, but give me results. I am sure there is a WR out there wearing out his welcome coming into the twilight of his career that we can milk for a few more seasons and turn him into something more than he really is because on our team he'll be a #1 option when on other teams he'd be relegated to 3rd.

Sad: Because we have to sign guys like this because we can't draft or develop well enough to stop from having to sign guys like this.

Side note:

Seen Kenny Wright's name being mentioned and he's interesting. He had a couple of good season in Tennessee before falling out of favor due to injuries and then missing team meetings. He might be a nice slot option because I don't think we can count on Campanaro's health.

Brandon Marshall's time in New York may be done. I know he's had some issues, but if the team is doing well and he's getting the ball like he should, he's proven to be more than just a solid receiver. His price tag might be pretty heftier based on his past results. You definitely have to keep him happy and motivated, but when you do you get a proven playmaker that scored the football. It might also help that he's 6'4'' 229lbs.

Which WR's didn't we develop ? Torrey smith (who got paid because he was a developed receiver)? or Permian who just had his rookie campaign? The kid didn't play football in 2 years and just came back from injury never had an off season with his QB. I think the jury is still out on Perriman. Next year with a full year and off season under his belt let's see what he can do. I still think he has a ton of potential. 

[Militant X 1]

Not one receiver on the roster is "that guy" to me.  Not one!  Middle of the pack cats.

[sizzlingdoom]

Not one receiver on the roster is "that guy" to me.  Not one!  Middle of the pack cats.

agree 100%. a lot of talent but not a single reliable target for a needed 4 and 5 conversion. Nobody will replace SSS or Q, and I doubt we'll get a true # 1 this year. I wouldn't mind adding Kendal Wright though

[sizzlingdoom]

  10 hours ago, Ravensfansince03 said:

It's not Ozzie. It's these lackluster scouts they have

Yes it's there fault they didn't see injury. Stupid scouts get it right! I mean last years draft was stupid Dixon, lewis , young , stanley. Stupid scouts get it together ! (roll eyes)

Even though we had a good draft last year, we still whiffed 100% in the 2nd round. nothing in the 3rd so far, yeah he got hurt, but he was a "hustle" and developemental player as well.
Perriman
Elam
Arthur Brown
Maxx Williams
KC
Kufasi
Carl Davis
Brooks
Jah Reid
Kindle
Cody
Ed Dickson

These are all 1rst, 2nd, and 3rd round picks from the last 7 years!!!!!
Not only are these guys not STUDs, which at least close to half of them should be, but some of them can't even stay in the league even as a special teamer. There's no way around it, our drafting is driving this franchise into the ground. And fast. Distgusting drafting at best!

[RavensRegime]

We havent replaced Boldin, Torrey, or Jacoby! So how do you replace a future HOF in SSS? Our drafting of WRs haven't worked out. And with the coaching staff we have in place, its not gonna get any better. I rather get proven WRs in free agency than draft another WR