[News] Ravens Disappointed With Emotional Letdown In Season Finale

[TheConquerorWorm]

We can only sign bargain basement castoff because of cap space. Signing Flacco to that ridiculous salary, it was the worse deal of the century. Get rid of him for draft choices, we cannot win with him. The Ravens haven't had a winning record since then, think about it. Maybe, Cleveland will take him, one can only hope.

Weddle = bargain basement cast-off? Smoke your dinner?

[RUE]

  1 hour ago, mrc724 said:

  1 hour ago, billiejean said:

  2 hours ago, mrc724 said:

  6 hours ago, gr2522 said:

The entire coaching staff should be fired!

I agree, add the O-line coach in particular. Our line is terrible, they get pushed around. We need some of those Midwestern farm boys, they throw bales of hay like paper.

Im not sure what team you have been watching. The o line had a rough start with all of the injuries but once everyone got healthy they have been doing pretty well. During the second half of the season, when the line started to solidify the our O lineman have been consistently graded as the top 5 Offensive players on our team. In fact there hasnt been a game where at least two O linman made this list. And there were two games where four players were in the top five.

We have to stop making injury excuses. How many sacks have the Ravens given up. We let a good guard go because we couldn't or wouldn't pay him. He's on a good, young playoff team, the Ravens, wait till next year.

Then why do the Ravens lead the league in sack given up, first or second half of the season. I very seldom see a pocket the quarterback can throw from.

Lead the league in sacks?????
why would you make that up. Where do you get your stats from.
We are nineteenth in the league.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&offensiveStatisticCategory=OFFENSIVE_LINE&role=TM&d-447263-n=1&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-p=1&d-447263-s=PASSING_SACKS_ALLOWED

"He's on a good, young playoff team, the Ravens, wait till next year"

Is that statement implying that if we had KO we would have made it to the playoffs, Cmon man thats just ridiculous. And we didn't resign KO because you cant spend all of your cap space on two interior lineman it just doesnt make sense. We made the right move

Either way you cut it...Regardless of the O-Line, the OC in charge of play calling, or whom was at RB... Flacco was like a panicked puppy in a street with cars swishing around him..How sad... "In the critical vertical game when needed, he never saw the receivers until the coverage collapsed on them or he panicked"...He's never been a top tier QB and he is now paid too, too, much money thanks to some people that need to have an evaluation...Gee, Art Model would roll over ...

[thegooddoc456]

  3 hours ago, Ravensfolyfe said:

I'm not saying fire Harbs yet,but his staff should be released terrible game plans week end week out tired of it. Flacco needs to finally study reading defenses for crying out loud.

I agree, Harbaugh should not be fired. Bisciotti needs to get on Harbaughs case about making changes. He has to see the dismal plays that the fans see. I'm sure he was that he ran his other businesses that way, he didn't become a billionaire by being soft on his employees. The head coach has to be more vocal with his players, let them know when they screw up, not at practice but during the game. Nick Saban, lets the players know when they make bone head plays. Get tough Harbaugh.

What if the head coach doesn't know any better? Why is it so tough for people to envision the Ravens parting ways with Harbaugh? Billick got canned after the Ravens had a bad season, and that was with a glaring absence of QB talent. I'm convinced Harbaugh is clueless and has no idea on what/how to move the Ravens forward.

[RUE]

We can only sign bargain basement castoff because of cap space. Signing Flacco to that ridiculous salary, it was the worse deal of the century. Get rid of him for draft choices, we cannot win with him. The Ravens haven't had a winning record since then, think about it. Maybe, Cleveland will take him, one can only hope.

Why would someone want him? His salary is horrible, He's not a top 10 QB.. These 1st & 2nd yr QB's are making him ooooooold...Hes still in Waltz mode in the pocket, the other 21 players on the field are dancing to a much faster tune... Mollat was an impressive young man in Houston, just learning, still eager, and he got caught behind Joe Cool... I'd rather seen the season end with Mol behind center... Thank you...

[coreyadams]

Look like Crapppppppp!

[coreyadams]

Pay cut Slacco, and get so playmakers here!

[Vitalvicious]

3 hours ago, mrc724 said:

Has anyone looked at the offensive line coach lately. Quarterbacks need protection and running backs need holes to run through. The offensive line has been porous, forget the injuries, other teams make do. We haven't had a good line for years. Maybe the blocking schemes need to be changed or the coach or both. Any comments.

I agree 100% our offensive line needs to be addressed as well.

[Zeus]

Play like a raven !

[jsarrocohome@yahoo.com]

  7 hours ago, mrc724 said:

  8 hours ago, Ravensfolyfe said:

I'm not saying fire Harbs yet,but his staff should be released terrible game plans week end week out tired of it. Flacco needs to finally study reading defenses for crying out loud.

I agree, Harbaugh should not be fired. Bisciotti needs to get on Harbaughs case about making changes. He has to see the dismal plays that the fans see. I'm sure he was that he ran his other businesses that way, he didn't become a billionaire by being soft on his employees. The head coach has to be more vocal with his players, let them know when they screw up, not at practice but during the game. Nick Saban, lets the players know when they make bone head plays. Get tough Harbaugh.

What if the head coach doesn't know any better? Why is it so tough for people to envision the Ravens parting ways with Harbaugh? Billick got canned after the Ravens had a bad season, and that was with a glaring absence of QB talent. I'm convinced Harbaugh is clueless and has no idea on what/how to move the Ravens forward.

Why do some fans make exuses for harbaugh he's not a good head coach this team has more talent than 8 and 8 if these Morons marty and Harbaugh would run the ball a lot more and pees could actually call a defense we would be in the playoffs we lost to the jets this year after having a 10 point lead late in the game I mean why does Harbaugh always get a pass or pees for that matter pees should have been fired after last year

[billiejean]

  6 hours ago, billiejean said:

  6 hours ago, mrc724 said:

  10 hours ago, gr2522 said:

The entire coaching staff should be fired!

I agree, add the O-line coach in particular. Our line is terrible, they get pushed around. We need some of those Midwestern farm boys, they throw bales of hay like paper.

Im not sure what team you have been watching. The o line had a rough start with all of the injuries but once everyone got healthy they have been doing pretty well. During the second half of the season, when the line started to solidify the our O lineman have been consistently graded as the top 5 Offensive players on our team. In fact there hasnt been a game where at least two O linman made this list. And there were two games where four players were in the top five.

I'm not convinced, sorry...different inj's happened at different times causing unconventional alignments...A list is just a list and no better than the author...The weakest  on the line was center. AND, lost the best left guard in football.

You passed judgement on something that you dont really no a lot about. This isn't just someone who made a list based on who they thought played best in the game. Its an analysis of every single play that the player was in the game for. Each play is given a numerical value by someone who zeros in on that player for the entire game. There is more to it but ill just put a link down there that spells it out. PFF isnt perfect but there are 15 teams in the league that pay an awful lot of money to get their analytics. Zutah has been playing well for the last ten or eleven games. He has been able to carry out his assignment on a consistent basis and in the last 11 games he has made it into the top 5 eight times. He doesn't have a problem carrying out his blocks, but he has had some inopportune penalties that have hurt us. And once again he put up a solid performance for yesterdays game and was the second highest graded player on the O. The weakest link on the line is Ducasse by far, and there will be plenty of competition at that spot next year. It would be a terrible decision for the Ravens to have beat out Oakland in the KO sweepstakes. You have got to spread the wealth. Having two of your highest paid players practically next to each other on the interior line would hurt financially. What happens then is that we wouldn't be able to sign any play makers because all of the money is tied up. If we kept KO it would be hard to imagine that we could afford bringing M Wallace in.

LT Ronnie Stanley, 83.4
C Jeremy Zuttah, 77.0
G Marshal Yanda, 76.9

Link below gives you more in depth explanation as to how they grade.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/about/how-we-grade/

[Purple Dawg 96]

Joe gonna get everyone fired SMH! Triple " S " had a Super Bowl but a very very very bad pass against the pats threw it all away and they blamed Torrey for a pass that should not have been thrown! It will be the same old story next season as long as Joe is the QB! Give big ben and brady these WRs and they would have us in the playoffs! Smh THIS CANNOT BE HAPPENING!

[The Greek]

not sure what the plan is with mallett as far as retaining him or trade bait but we need to draft a qb in the 4th possibly to develop

[jhulax35]

1 hour ago, Purple Dawg 96 said:

Joe gonna get everyone fired SMH! Triple " S " had a Super Bowl but a very very very bad pass against the pats threw it all away and they blamed Torrey for a pass that should not have been thrown! It will be the same old story next season as long as Joe is the QB! Give big ben and brady these WRs and they would have us in the playoffs! Smh THIS CANNOT BE HAPPENING!

Yes he has thrown some bad passes.. but what about the passes that have hit wr or te in the hands and have been picked off.. what about the pass to Wallace during the Pats game and looked like he was catching one those big bouncing balls you get for your kids.. or what about Kamar not looking back at his Qb when joe had let go of the ball early. Don't give the Wr a break because there plent more. Maybe joe shouldn't have thrown that pass to Torrey but Torrey didn't fight for the ball he hardly fought for any of the balls thrown his way.. Here let me go on Perriamn didn't even try catch a ball when Joe had get rid of it early and he dropped mostly every out route. 

[whobilly]

  14 hours ago, outkast1 said:

They all played like their Quarterback !

Tony Romo anyone, he still has it.

Until he gets hit for the first time. OMG. Stop it.

[whobilly]

not sure what the plan is with mallett as far as retaining him or trade bait but we need to draft a qb in the 4th possibly to develop

Because there are SO many Dak Prescott's out there and every team can just draft QB's in the 4th round.

[Rav'n Maniac]

The season is over. The fields are covered, the lockers are emptied and the equipment gets packed away. Yet, the 2017 season starts today. It's time for the work to begin here and now. They can't rest and relax if they want to turn this around. It's up to Bisciotti to set the tone and make the hard decisions to get this team going in the right direction again.

[BigUgly]

So we end 2017 the same way we ended last season - questions about the offensive coordinator, holes on the O-Line and secondary, not enough playmakers at WR or OLB. We really need guys like Correa, Judon, Moore, Kafusi and Perriman to develop more quickly.

[The Greek]

mike mccoy could be a possibility for oc

[whobilly]

So we end 2017 the same way we ended last season - questions about the offensive coordinator, holes on the O-Line and secondary, not enough playmakers at WR or OLB. We really need guys like Correa, Judon, Moore, Kafusi and Perriman to develop more quickly.

You just touched on one of the big problems. Other than Judon who could develop into a Player, the rest of the guys you mentioned will develop into "Roster Fillers".

[EdTheMythicalOne]

1) If the team isn't prepared to play and isn't playing up to expectations that is on the Head Coach. Harbaugh seems to be really good about saying what is wrong with the team, but seems awful at correcting all the glaringly obvious issues.

2) They keep saying you can't use the loss in Pittsburgh as an excuse to lay that stinker in Cincinnati, yet they mention that game a whole lot, don't they? Seems like they are definitely using that as an excuse. I'm tired of the excuses.

3) They weren't the only ones disappointed with the game, or the season. The Ravens toughest opponent this year was the Ravens. They beat themselves with stupid penalties, poor play calling, inexcusable play, and horrid clock management issues.

4) Suggs is right. Time for some brutal honesty and for a lot of changes to be made. The NFL is a what have you done for me lately league. I've seen the articles on here suggesting Harbaugh is virtually untouchable because of his past. Take a look at his recent track record after the Superbowl. This team has looked completely lost for years now and either that is on every single player on the team or it is on the coaching staff. Which is it?

[The Greek]

  2 hours ago, The Greek said:

not sure what the plan is with mallett as far as retaining him or trade bait but we need to draft a qb in the 4th possibly to develop

Because there are SO many Dak Prescott's out there and every team can just draft QB's in the 4th round.

never mentioned dak prescott in my post and i did use the word "possibly".

[jravens1313]

The Flacco first Offensive identity is a complete JOKE! We missed the playoffs every year we decided to go pass happy after the SB run. 2013, 2015, 2016.

In 2014 we had Gary Kubiak, who is known for offensive balance. We went 10-6, Flacco had his best season, and we lost a nail biter in NE that we could have easily won. NE won the SB that year.

Find an offensive coordinator that will commit to the run and use our skill players properly. Someone who values controlling the clock and keeping the defense off the field.

16th Pick: (Dalvin Cook or Deont'a Foreman) I am usually against drafting a RB Round 1, but this team needs to be forced into running the football, and there are some big, fast, and talented backs that will go round 1 this year.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

I think the players made a statement about the coaching and leadership. It is time to change out the whole regime. Harbs had his run, let's get someone new!

Why do you put a player on the roster and then make him inactive in a game that doesn't matter. We had a chance to see what Keenan Reynolds can do, but of course we have to wait until next year. Another reason why Harbs and company must go.

All about roster manipulation. This is one thing the Ravens seem to do right. They know all the intricacies of roster management. By promoting him to the 53 man roster for one game they don't expose him to "Futures Contracts" that other teams could use on him. So they must have seen enough out of him to give him a chance next season, or at least put him on their PS again next year. I think we saw what Reynolds was capable off in the pre season. He just wasn't ready.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

Spoiled Ravens' fans. One losing season in 9 seasons in the toughest division in football. Good luck finding a head coach with Harbaugh's success. Everyone is trying to do it and no one really is. We have issues but it is not the head coach. Our pass rushers are old. We haven't had a decent secondary in 4 years. Same goes for the o-line which has been no better than average over that time. RBs aren't game breakers. WRs can't get separation. And our QB is terrible under pressure. Offensive scheme is unimaginative. Defense is bend but don't break without the personnel to actually be able to play that way. Changes need to be made with the coaching staff and if Harbaugh doesn't address that, then I would say calling for a head coaching change is justified. But, again, good luck finding a successful replacement.

Le'Veon Bell isn't a game breaker? Jamal Lewis wasn't a game breaker for us in our first ever Ravens Superbowl?

You can only live on your past success for so long. There is also the whole living up to expectations thing. This team was much better talent-wise than they played this season. A lot of their losses were not earned by the other team, but given away by the Ravens. A lot of changes need to be made. We once fired Billick who won a Superbowl for us because he lost the team and failed to live up to expectations. This team was rudderless this year. Same old issues over and over again.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

Lots of talk about getting rid of Harbs... think for a minute... you can't blame him for poor draft picks, poor personnel decisions, inflated contracts and poor QB play. He does as well as anyone could with the team they give him.

No, but I can blame him for not preparing his team week in and week out, the absolutely terrible clock management, and not getting a handle on his coaches for completely fluffing away games. The offensive game plans didn't much improve after the OC change. It looked like more of the same. No running even though West and Dixon were running well. Stupid gimmick plays that often got snuffed out easily by the defense, and then would be run repeatedly throughout the game and still not work. Hello? He lost this team.

[Drinkmore Beer]

The starters phoned in this last one as expected. So why not take a look at some players who didn't play much this year? Totally wasted opportunity and afternoon. At this point, have no reason to believe next year will be better. Good time to retire, SSS.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

  11 hours ago, mrc724 said:

Amen, In Ozzie we trust is gone. How long has been since he' had a good draft. Again, the organization needs to get Younger. Clean house.

2014: Mosley, Jernigan, Campanaro, Gilmore....

2015: Perriman, Williams, Smith, Boyle, Waller

2016: Just about every draft pick is on the team.

It's not that Ozzie and staff doesn't draft players as they choose quantity over quality. That's the rub. No superstars are being drafted. No one is afraid of anyone on the Ravens. No one.

Correa (2nd round pick) and Kaufusi (3rd round pick) were not on the team. Well, Correa was for a little bit as an underwhemling special teamer before he went on IR. That should also tell you a great deal when 6th rounders, 7th rounders, and UDFA are getting a lot of reps for your team....they had to beat out somebody.

[EdTheMythicalOne]

We can only sign bargain basement castoff because of cap space. Signing Flacco to that ridiculous salary, it was the worse deal of the century. Get rid of him for draft choices, we cannot win with him. The Ravens haven't had a winning record since then, think about it. Maybe, Cleveland will take him, one can only hope.

Weddle, Wallace, Watson. They were all signed to fairly healthy contracts this past off season.

[BigUgly]

I think Harbs is a great head coach who, like every HC, has his flaws. Like his mentor Andy Reid, he is not the best clock manager but that is forgivable in light of his ability to prepare a team to play. His biggest issue, in my opinion, is his inability to step in and re-direct how the Offense or Defense is run short of firing a coordinator. Delegation is fine, until it stops working, then you need to take charge.

How many times did Harbs say we need to commit to the run and take deep shots on offense, only to see the next game be the same old pass-whacky dink and dunk? How many times on defense did he say we have to hold a lead, only to see the same passive defensive scheme that allows WRs to get open underneath for huge chunks of yardage?

I think we need new coordinators on both sides of the ball, and those folks need to be empowered to pick their own staffs.

[araveninwaconc]

Hello everyone, I for one am sorry that we missed the play offs and really expected it to go like it did. Our souls had already been ripped out! Nevertheless my question deals with playoff procedures? I post this because I know no else to go or ask professionally? Now I believe myself to be a real football stud when addressing situational game scenarios of how teams make the playoffs for over 3/4 of my life and I am 55? Or so I thought? During the game between Tampa Bay and Carolina, it was indicated that Indy, Mia, had to win, with a Cowboys win, and a victory over Carolina, Tampa would be in the playoffs. Now my problem deals with Idy and Mia being in the afc and having an impact on a nfc team. Mia played NE and Idy played Jacksonville? (all Afc). How did these two afc games have an impact on a nfc team?

Please someone help me I am so confused! Email me at tomkatt62@gmail.com
this information would really educate me in a field I once believed to hold a Major degree in? However, I have seen differently and need some mental therapy to educate me so I may help others understand, as myself. Then we all can stop giving our own theories (me and my football gurus friends). Please some one help me