[News] Ravens Disappointed With Emotional Letdown In Season Finale

[WordProphet]

What happened to the leadership in the Ravens organization, it must have been nonexistent, seems like no one was able to motivate the Ravens to play today, oh, it was a bad loss last week, cry, cry, cry, right, so what, man up and get it done, cry babies should not be allowed to be on professional football teams, you get paid too much money to whine and cry!!! The Bengals had a worst record then the Ravens but they didn't give up, the Browns had a worst record then the Ravens and they almost beat the Steelers today, matter of fact they had to go to overtime for the Steelers to win that game!!! So stop your whining and belly-aching, man up and don't do it again when next season come!!! That was a pitiful way to send Steve Smith Sr. off into retirement and it was shameful and embarrassing to the Raven fans of City of Baltimore!!!

[mrc724]

Since the roster overhaul following SB 47, the Ravens have gone 31-33. The numbers don't lie- this is simply an average football team. "Play like a Raven" hasn't carried the same meaning that it did when Ray Lewis was the face of this franchise.

Very interesting, changes need to be made. Ozzie needs to tighten his ship.

[mrc724]

They all played like their Quarterback !

Tony Romo anyone, he still has it.

[law215]

Harbs is the coordinators boss. How many coordinators will Oz have to hire before he starts looking at the coach?

I read Greg Roman formerly of Bill and 49ers may be in the mix. Another friend of Harbs. SMH

[Vitalvicious]

I'm not exactly sure of what needs to change but there's a huge disconnection be tween the players and coaches, it's evident in their play and preparation. Idk how many times I've read on these threads about us needing a secondary, or our secondary being our demise. How come it hasn't been addressed?!?!? Our offensive line got soft once K.O left, he's playing great for the Raiders if no one has noticed.

ONE of our problems is, we are always trying to find discounted players, Ozzie seems to like letting players go because he doesn't want to pay them, or thinks recycled players can get it done, either way it's finally catching up to us, along with a few mediocre drafts. I hope some changes come soon because the past few seasons post our Super Bowl run has been very disappointing to say the least.

[mrc724]

They all played like their Quarterback !

Has anyone looked at the offensive line coach lately. Quarterbacks need protection and running backs need holes to run through. The offensive line has been porous, forget the injuries, other teams make do. We haven't had a good line for years. Maybe the blocking schemes need to be changed or the coach or both. Any comments.

[mrc724]

The entire coaching staff should be fired!

I agree, add the O-line coach in particular. Our line is terrible, they get pushed around. We need some of those Midwestern farm boys, they throw bales of hay like paper.

[b93333]

Lots of talk about getting rid of Harbs... think for a minute... you can't blame him for poor draft picks, poor personnel decisions, inflated contracts and poor QB play. He does as well as anyone could with the team they give him.

[WordProphet]

The offensive coordinator and the defensive coordinator need to be fired, the head coach needs to go too if he can't motivate the team to play better than what he did today, it was awful and shameful, no leadership at all!!! And this is what we got to look forward to if serious changes are not made!!! Ever since Harbaugh and Ozzie let the Superbowl team go we have been going straight down hill, all these promises but producing nothing!!! Now we are at rock bottom, you have lost control of the team, the confidence of the team in it's coaches seems to be gone, motivation is at a minimum, players don't want to play, but you say you think we can be a good team, oh yeah, when and where? Because you haven't shown as nothing since the Superbowl team was dismantled by Harbaugh and Ozzie!!! But the bad part about this, things seem to be getting worse and not better for it seems Harbaugh and Ozzie has lost the confidence of the team, in the locker room and on the field, because the way they played today, they did not play like a Raven!!!

[RUE]

Lots of talk about getting rid of Harbs... think for a minute... you can't blame him for poor draft picks, poor personnel decisions, inflated contracts and poor QB play. He does as well as anyone could with the team they give him.

I'm sorry but yes you can blame JH as well as Ozzie, both in conjunction have the input & power to address, stock & build. But when you have so many 1st thru 3rd rnd picks that have become so unimportant the last few years and you rely on FA's & 4 thru 6 rounders to your not going to compete as witnessed the last 4 years.

[RUE]

  3 hours ago, robbie29 said:

Since the roster overhaul following SB 47, the Ravens have gone 31-33. The numbers don't lie- this is simply an average football team. "Play like a Raven" hasn't carried the same meaning that it did when Ray Lewis was the face of this franchise.

Very interesting, changes need to be made. Ozzie needs to tighten his ship.

thats partially attrition & downhill... these guys don't have the body stamina to hold up to 15 or so years of beating...

[mrc724]

Food for thought, send Flacco to Cleveland for draft choices, they deserve one another. Sign Romo, he's good if healthy, It would give the Ravens the opportunity to develop a young quarterback. No, I'm not on drugs, delusional or crazy. Maybe Cleveland would go for it, who knows.

[mrc724]

Lots of talk about getting rid of Harbs... think for a minute... you can't blame him for poor draft picks, poor personnel decisions, inflated contracts and poor QB play. He does as well as anyone could with the team they give him.

Amen, In Ozzie we trust is gone. How long has been since he' had a good draft. Again, the organization needs to get Younger. Clean house.

[billiejean]

  4 hours ago, gr2522 said:

The entire coaching staff should be fired!

I agree, add the O-line coach in particular. Our line is terrible, they get pushed around. We need some of those Midwestern farm boys, they throw bales of hay like paper.

Im not sure what team you have been watching. The o line had a rough start with all of the injuries but once everyone got healthy they have been doing pretty well. During the second half of the season, when the line started to solidify the our O lineman have been consistently graded as the top 5 Offensive players on our team. In fact there hasnt been a game where at least two O linman made this list. And there were two games where four players were in the top five.

[mrc724]

Harbs is the coordinators boss. How many coordinators will Oz have to hire before he starts looking at the coach?

I read Greg Roman formerly of Bill and 49ers may be in the mix. Another friend of Harbs. SMH

Don't want a coordinator who was fired by Rex Ryan. Stay away from the OLD BOY it doesn't work. These people don't need a job for life. Have you heard of bright young talent Harbs.

[slowboater]

7 minutes ago, mrc724 said:

Amen, In Ozzie we trust is gone. How long has been since he' had a good draft. Again, the organization needs to get Younger. Clean house.

2014: Mosley, Jernigan, Campanaro, Gilmore....

2015: Perriman, Williams, Smith, Boyle, Waller

2016: Just about every draft pick is on the team.

It's not that Ozzie and staff doesn't draft players as they choose quantity over quality. That's the rub. No superstars are being drafted. No one is afraid of anyone on the Ravens. No one.

[WordProphet]

There are so many things that need to be done on the Ravens, but no one is willing to take the high road and get these things done, so here we are looking like the Browns or the Jags if we don't get these things done!!! You can play around if you want to but the Ravens will be the laughing stock of the NFL if something is not done quickly in the off season!!! All the coaches need to be let go and we need a whole new coaching staff who can motivate the players, for the ones we have now cannot!!! We need a better secondary for they being taking advantage of on a regular basis but people don't seem to want to hear that or do anything about that!!! Steve Smith Sr. is retiring who will replace him, Anguan Bolden will not be coming back and we need a down field play maker bad, Perriman, I don't know, Wallace I don't know, but if we can't find one we will see what they can do, and that's just the start!!!

[Minionhunter]

Bring in Gary, Dennison, the TE and Oline coach plus Wade Phillips and some of his assistants. Basically import Denver's entire system. Gary can stay healthy without the HC pressure and there is already familiarity and an entire system. The oline will be fixed, Joe will be fixed, the TE group will be fixed. Wade will take over the D and fix it. Plus we can stick it to Elway as a bonus.

[mrc724]

We can only sign bargain basement castoff because of cap space. Signing Flacco to that ridiculous salary, it was the worse deal of the century. Get rid of him for draft choices, we cannot win with him. The Ravens haven't had a winning record since then, think about it. Maybe, Cleveland will take him, one can only hope.

[Minionhunter]

  4 hours ago, outkast1 said:

They all played like their Quarterback !

Has anyone looked at the offensive line coach lately. Quarterbacks need protection and running backs need holes to run through. The offensive line has been porous, forget the injuries, other teams make do. We haven't had a good line for years. Maybe the blocking schemes need to be changed or the coach or both. Any comments.

Yes. Every year Castillo has been in charge of the line, they have sucked. The one year he was fired by promoting him, the line was great. Yanda even skewered him by saying that his favorite thing about him was he was a grinder. Not that he was a good coach, but that he really keeps working. That is far from a compliment, it is a nice way to say that he sucks. Castillo is a big problem, huge problem and with direct evidence he is the direct and exact cause of the line and running game failures. He must be fired along with earwig.

[billiejean]

Stop making excuses because we lost to the Steelers, there was an emotional let, that's a lot of bunk. Players you are professionals, motivate yourself, you make more money than the average person. Get rid of the cry babies and under achievers. They show the sidelines, no one is getting in guy's face for making a dumb play. The Ravens need more in your face players, not just leading by example. Flacco, take a nasty pill, get on the player's face if they miss an easy throw, stop hanging your head, and sitting calmly at the bench. Look at Brady, he leads by emotion.

Stop signing other teams cast offs. The receiver we recently signed, he was cut by two other teams, does that tell you something. Don't praise the guy, he's a looser. If the Patriots cut him, he's a waste of talent, like most of our players. Sign tough in your face player. Ozzie, get better talent evaluators. We passed on some players with questionable Character, look at the guy playing for the Cardinals. I'm not saying we should sign wife or girl friends beaters, some with questionable back rounds need, a second chance. It's been proven it works.

Good Bye Dean Pees, you need to go.

Is this your first season following an NFL tream? Every single team has signed "another teams castoffs" this season. T west was a castoff as well as Kelly Greg and Cary Williams. I could go on for days listing all of the successful players that were other teams castoffs, Tyran Mathews was drafted three years ago and there is no way that you would know if we passed on him. I am assuming "passed on him" means they took him off their board. "its been proven it works" Really? For every time that it has worked there is a time where it didn't work. Here are a few examples. Josh Gordon, Titus Young, Johnny Manziel, Justin Blackmon,

[billiejean]

  2 hours ago, reed20 said:

Pees should be fired. The defense seems to have lost faith in him as their coordinator.

Sign Ray Lewis in some capacity, not a rah rah speech. A defensive coach would be nice. Someone needs to kick butt for non performing players.

Only problem here is that Ray has said on multiple occasions that he doesnt want to coach.

[RUE]

The entire coaching staff starting with Harbs should be shamed, they should hope they have a job..This year, we start with a rb that should have stayed on the cut list...a QB that for some reason was very very slow to make a decision down field. is it likely his completion/yds were among the worst. wow: lose leads, lose to inferior teams, play calling, (SAD, when the head coach/OC are so afraid to attack in a vertical game with the WR's & TE's we had) Somebodys at fault. Think back to the NE game... 3/4 passes were to the sidelines..Remember the buck started with JH, & Ozzie..

[mrc724]

  43 minutes ago, mrc724 said:

  4 hours ago, gr2522 said:

The entire coaching staff should be fired!

I agree, add the O-line coach in particular. Our line is terrible, they get pushed around. We need some of those Midwestern farm boys, they throw bales of hay like paper.

Im not sure what team you have been watching. The o line had a rough start with all of the injuries but once everyone got healthy they have been doing pretty well. During the second half of the season, when the line started to solidify the our O lineman have been consistently graded as the top 5 Offensive players on our team. In fact there hasnt been a game where at least two O linman made this list. And there were two games where four players were in the top five.

We have to stop making injury excuses. How many sacks have the Ravens given up. We let a good guard go because we couldn't or wouldn't pay him. He's on a good, young playoff team, the Ravens, wait till next year.

Then why do the Ravens lead the league in sack given up, first or second half of the season. I very seldom see a pocket the quarterback can throw from.

[mrc724]

  58 minutes ago, law215 said:

Harbs is the coordinators boss. How many coordinators will Oz have to hire before he starts looking at the coach?

I read Greg Roman formerly of Bill and 49ers may be in the mix. Another friend of Harbs. SMH

Don't want a coordinator who was fired by Rex Ryan. Stay away from the OLD BOY it doesn't work. These people don't need a job for life. Have you heard of bright young talent Harbs.

Please, no Greg Roman.

[billiejean]

I'm not exactly sure of what needs to change but there's a huge disconnection be tween the players and coaches, it's evident in their play and preparation. Idk how many times I've read on these threads about us needing a secondary, or our secondary being our demise. How come it hasn't been addressed?!?!? Our offensive line got soft once K.O left, he's playing great for the Raiders if no one has noticed.

ONE of our problems is, we are always trying to find discounted players, Ozzie seems to like letting players go because he doesn't want to pay them, or thinks recycled players can get it done, either way it's finally catching up to us, along with a few mediocre drafts. I hope some changes come soon because the past few seasons post our Super Bowl run has been very disappointing to say the least.

The O line has played extremely well for the second half of the season. I am not sure if you have noticed that Marshall Yanda is the best gaurd in the league. You cant justify giving huge contracts to two interior lineman. You have to spread it around.

[billiejean]

  34 minutes ago, billiejean said:

  1 hour ago, mrc724 said:

  5 hours ago, gr2522 said:

The entire coaching staff should be fired!

I agree, add the O-line coach in particular. Our line is terrible, they get pushed around. We need some of those Midwestern farm boys, they throw bales of hay like paper.

Im not sure what team you have been watching. The o line had a rough start with all of the injuries but once everyone got healthy they have been doing pretty well. During the second half of the season, when the line started to solidify the our O lineman have been consistently graded as the top 5 Offensive players on our team. In fact there hasnt been a game where at least two O linman made this list. And there were two games where four players were in the top five.

We have to stop making injury excuses. How many sacks have the Ravens given up. We let a good guard go because we couldn't or wouldn't pay him. He's on a good, young playoff team, the Ravens, wait till next year.

Then why do the Ravens lead the league in sack given up, first or second half of the season. I very seldom see a pocket the quarterback can throw from.

Lead the league in sacks?????
why would you make that up. Where do you get your stats from.
We are nineteenth in the league.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&offensiveStatisticCategory=OFFENSIVE_LINE&role=TM&d-447263-n=1&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-p=1&d-447263-s=PASSING_SACKS_ALLOWED

"He's on a good, young playoff team, the Ravens, wait till next year"

Is that statement implying that if we had KO we would have made it to the playoffs, Cmon man thats just ridiculous. And we didn't resign KO because you cant spend all of your cap space on two interior lineman it just doesnt make sense. We made the right move

[RUE]

1 hour ago, billiejean said:

2 hours ago, mrc724 said:

  5 hours ago, gr2522 said:

The entire coaching staff should be fired!

I agree, add the O-line coach in particular. Our line is terrible, they get pushed around. We need some of those Midwestern farm boys, they throw bales of hay like paper.

Im not sure what team you have been watching. The o line had a rough start with all of the injuries but once everyone got healthy they have been doing pretty well. During the second half of the season, when the line started to solidify the our O lineman have been consistently graded as the top 5 Offensive players on our team. In fact there hasnt been a game where at least two O linman made this list. And there were two games where four players were in the top five.

I'm not convinced, sorry...different inj's happened at different times causing unconventional alignments...A list is just a list and no better than the author...The weakest  on the line was center. AND, lost the best left guard in football.

Edited January 2 by RUE
sorry, didn't see a profanity unless a typeo

[RUE]

In my opinion its time for a coaching change, top to bottom...thats been evident for the last 4 years... Oz has seen the last of the days of living on 4th & 5th rnd draft picks(If he can't make the first 3 work, then trade them for quality players or quit)..I honestly think most people are shocked at the premium picks that have been wasted in the last several years (I'm being kind with several).

[TheConquerorWorm]

Food for thought, send Flacco to Cleveland for draft choices, they deserve one another. Sign Romo, he's good if healthy, It would give the Ravens the opportunity to develop a young quarterback. No, I'm not on drugs, delusional or crazy. Maybe Cleveland would go for it, who knows.

Romo is under contract and will make more $$ than Flacco next year to ride the bench. Cowboys would lose cap space cutting him.