[News] Game Recap: Bengals 27, Ravens 10

[fluffy201]

Once Flacco got paid and the front office could not afford to deal Harbs a loaded hand, he has done nothing but throw coordinators and players under the bus.

His history of winning was when he inherited

pro bowlers and HOFs on defense
had a solid offense line
had productive vets and free agents like Heap, Mason, Maghee
and a better QB than Billick ever had
has a front office constantly provides him with former head coaches on his staff since they know he can't do it on his own

Now that he has to COACH and develop, he can't win

I agree to that 100% Not going to lose too many games when you have a Suggs, Reed, Ray, Ngata on your defense.

[law215]

I expected this which is why I wasn't upset after the lose to Pitt!
If we really want to get back to winning.

Fire Ozzie and promote Eric Decosta! I'm tired of trading back for picks and bad deals!
Fire Harbs! The coaches lost us at least 4 games! I'd love to see Tom Coughlin!
Pull #5 in the office and ask him does he know what are team colors are!
Cut Wright, Webb, and Elam!
Ask Suggs and Doom for pay cuts. If not, thank you for your service! Take the cap hit! We have to get younger!
Find a way to keep our best player on defense BWILL

I only question one point. Oz mentioned in last years end of year conference that Decosta has been leading the draft room and taking lead on personnel decisions. Steve said DeCosta is like having 2 GMs. Because of that, I think you keep been both, but get a new fresh perspective from outside.

[The Negotiator]

  37 minutes ago, lowcountryraven said:

Best loss of the season. We moved up a few spots for the draft. Our needs are faster cover guys, better pass rushers, better offensive lineman who can block consistently, and receivers who can actually get open and catch the ball. Grab a few high dollar young players in free agency, cut some older and slower expensive players, and get more speed in the draft. Most importantly please get some creative coaches on offense. I am sick of watching 3rd down and 8 and we throw a 5 yard pass and punt. I am sick of watching our defense give a 6 yard cushion for easy completions. I am still a fan but come on man!!!! Bring Torrey Smith back, at least he could get open and catch the football and you can probably work out a good deal for him. Get the best offensive line players out there, pass protection and run blocking can make any offense look good even ours. See you all in the summer.

Yea, we just need a couple young play makers on each side of the ball. Torrey Smith can kick rocks, he isn't really that good. Why would you want bring back an average receiver, OBJ, Green, Bryant, we really need guys like them (Play Makers). We also need another corner that can play opposite
to Jimmy Smith.......................And the funny thing about Smith is that he took only 3 million dollars more (guaranteed money) to play for San Fran than Baltimore, It costs at least a million dollars more to live in San Francisco, Smith can kick rocks.

Agree Smith can stay in San fran

[Crimson Raven]

It's in the can. Now we must regroup. My Ravens New Year's resolution: Better playmakers (offense and defense) and a stronger O-line. Some new coordinators couldn't hurt.

[gr2522]

Steve Bisciotti

[Dusty]

1 thing i never hear antone say,is the steelers alway's get dealt a better schedule,the tough games they play at home,we go on the road,didn't we have a worse record then them?been like this for years.

We played the Jaguars, Jets, Redskins, Bills, and Eagles... How much easier does a schedule have to be? But then again, we dropped games to the Redskins and Jets... So not easy enough? Really?

[Fastynart]

What needs to change is the leadership. With change of leadership comes change in methods. It is plain to anyone that the Ravens are not moving forward. Flacco always plays his worst against Cincy and Harbaugh won't let Mallet play. That stupid interception, just like the one he tossed against Pittsburgh killed the Ravens. They are not good enough to overcome Flacco's gaffes. On defense, no pass rush.....again. No coverage on receivers. Instead of challenging them, the Ravens play soft, sitting 10 yards off the line.

[sami]

Once Flacco got paid and the front office could not afford to deal Harbs a loaded hand, he has done nothing but throw coordinators and players under the bus.

His history of winning was when he inherited

pro bowlers and HOFs on defense
had a solid offense line
had productive vets and free agents like Heap, Mason, Maghee
and a better QB than Billick ever had
has a front office constantly provides him with former head coaches on his staff since they know he can't do it on his own

Now that he has to COACH and develop, he can't win

yeah, he also inherited a losing team. We were 5-11 when he got here in spite of all the "greatness" he inherited.

[Dusty]

Joe gotta go! Can't blame Ozzie and Co. and Harbs for this season Joe did not play up to what was expected of him because he had the pieces on Offense period point blank! QB #1 pick and do the regular draft process! THIS CANNOT BE HAPPENING! SMH

Whatever you're smoking you need to blow it out 'cus it's destroying your judgement. Flacco needs to go? Who are you going to put at QB? Tell me, who? We live in a world where Kirk Cousins is a keeper!

We need to fire our entire defense except for maybe for 6-8 players. THAT would be a start.

I honestly want you to tell me who you would pick up to be QB if you got rid of Flacco. I can't wait to hear this answer...

[The Beak]

We cant be that bad, can we? We were trying to lose ,Right? This season 100% falls on John harbaugh and staff. Why can't we just run the ball , every fan knows this, hell even my 8 year old asked why we pass so much, this team will keep missing the playoffs if FO changes aren't made , Fire JHarbaugh , ask Ozzie to retire, please please get some coordinators with some damn common sense, GEEZ..... 2017 Roster moves will depend on who is in charge, OZ = Status Quo(8-8) ...John H = No guts, weak leader, ...The wig = stupid play calls (esp at the goal line, just run the ball dumb dumb)....Pees = no swag dull as a rock...I'll bet most fans would be ok with (I am) struggling another year so we can rebuild. We have too many players at the END of their career. We need to say goodbye to Doom/Sizzle, Webb, Mcclellan, Powers, Wright, Zuttah, Wallace, Aiken, among others , We need PLAYMAKERS on offence, and a coach with some moxy on defence. This team /players are very lucky, because the RAVEN FANS are the best FANS in the world, hands down!!!!!! PS my player of the goes to Dennis Pitta, to comeback from those horrible injuries and gut this season out, just amazing....

[ravensrock89]

stop trading back its killed us, we always have one of the most picks in the NFL (with comp picks) so dont need more average players. We need a stud reciever corner and pass rusher and we will be back. When we gave Flacco a good reciever core and line we won the Super Bowl. Flacco is clutch when we need him to be, cant believe some people are saying release him, you know how many teams would die for a Flacco? Ask Buffalo, NYJ Cle SF Jax Who did we have before Flacco? Banks Grbac etc we got him i believe at 17 trading up, Buffalo got EJ Manuel at 17 and look where he is, just horrible. We are not far off, just need a good draft and good signings

[Jfravens]

I cant lie anymore, Joe Flacco is not a great QB , He's trash, You can not say You dont care what the record of the franchise is, He's always disrespecting the team saying he does not care of this or that, Excuse me but thats not being "Cool" thats being ignorant, cause if you want to win You really care about your franchise record and you always want it to be the best, if you win all your games yo win the superbowl flacco if you win more games that you did this and the past seasons maybe you get in the playoffs and the superbowl, So of course your record matters and your attitude stinks, A true competitor hates losing and wants to win so bad they actually demonstrate it and care. Im done with flacco, We've always been a contender because of our Defense, Time to get Mallette a chance, Im donde with flacco being the Qb of our franchise, I became a fan of the ravens thanks to Ray Lewis and Ed Reed, But i cant stand a disrecpecful dude like flacco, Im sure he's a great human being and father and person, but he's not a great QB, Imagine Rivers, or Brees as our QBs with our Defense....

[gammaman]

First and goal from the 2....Oh let's do what we did against the Eagles and throw an interception. Deja vu!
Fan interest is waning with this regime and Harbaugh's excuses.

[whobilly]

1 thing i never hear antone say,is the steelers alway's get dealt a better schedule,the tough games they play at home,we go on the road,didn't we have a worse record then them?been like this for years.

Look at the futures schedule. All of the games are predetermined five years out(or more).who you play and where you play them. The Steelers played the Eales and Skins on the road. We played those teams at home. They played the Jets in Pittsburgh and we played those mighty Jets on the road. CLICK on Gameday on THIS site. Go to Schedule. CLICK ON FUTURE SCHEDULE. Its all there for you.

[jsarrocohome@yahoo.com]

Did marty pees and harbaugh get Fired yet

[Bline1027]

I think Steve B should bring in Rex Ryan back and Norv Turner for both OC/DC jobs. I know I am reaching but I would love if Tom C came in. Good Coach who is not dumb with bad coaching decisions. We need better coaching. Yes we need better and younger players. Doom, Sizzle, and Flacco need to take pay cuts. The secondary needs to be cut except for Smith and Young. Decosta needs to make the call in the draft. IMO.

[BigUgly]

This team was not ready to play this game. Out-coached and out-played by a decimated Bengals squad that had nothing to play for.

[Rich McG]

Thanks to the schedule the Ravens proved they are a .500 team against the 2nd tier of the NFL. So many areas need help (speed, football IQ etc.), it's going to take a few years if Steve starts NOW. That said, the Ravens are exciting, tough, and never give up. The Steelers game last week was a classic; a true classic of forever. Yeah, it absolutely destroyed Christmas night, and almost the entire week that followed. It was a great game played by great players and coaches. So how can we complain? GO RAVENS!

[ravensrock89]

I cant lie anymore, Joe Flacco is not a great QB , He's trash, You can not say You dont care what the record of the franchise is, He's always disrespecting the team saying he does not care of this or that, Excuse me but thats not being "Cool" thats being ignorant, cause if you want to win You really care about your franchise record and you always want it to be the best, if you win all your games yo win the superbowl flacco if you win more games that you did this and the past seasons maybe you get in the playoffs and the superbowl, So of course your record matters and your attitude stinks, A true competitor hates losing and wants to win so bad they actually demonstrate it and care. Im done with flacco, We've always been a contender because of our Defense, Time to get Mallette a chance, Im donde with flacco being the Qb of our franchise, I became a fan of the ravens thanks to Ray Lewis and Ed Reed, But i cant stand a disrecpecful dude like flacco, Im sure he's a great human being and father and person, but he's not a great QB, Imagine Rivers, or Brees as our QBs with our Defense....

Everyone was saying give T.Taylor a chance but Buffalo knows how good he is. The Defense is not as good as you think, we were number one when we played Jax Cle Buff NYJ when they played a good qb they got killed. How many tds did they give up late after we gave them a lead? Pitt last week drove 80 yards and didnt even need there timeouts in under a minute. Corners are weak pass rush non existant and safeties are a so so. A good D is a R.Lewis in his prime with Reed Ngata Suggs MC Allister, compare that to the D we have now lol night n day

[JamesA119]

In my mind this team didn't improve from last year. We were 5-11 last year with all the injuries. This year playing with the starters most of the season with the exception of Jimmy Smith, we are 8-8. I'd say the team didn't improve much.

[gr2522]

Steve Bisciotti the 2017 NFL campaign has begun for you. 2016 is now in the rear view mirror and you have decisions to make.

1st critical decision is whether to keep coach Harbaugh. I hear a lot of chatter that the team needs stability at the HC position, and all that's needed is a new OC. What about a head coach who used to be an OC who is an offensive wiz. Or what about a HC who used to be a DC who is a defensive wiz? Do you need a team manager or a leader who will rally his players behind him even in meaningless games and play their best game ever? Do you want a leader who will instill discipline in his players and eliminate drive killing penalties or vice versa, penalties which favor the opponent? Please make your decision wisely on whether to keep Harbaugh or move forward in a fresh direction.

2nd decision Mr. Bisciotti is whether you allow Ozzie and DeCosta to run your team. I am sure I'm not the only fan who no longer "Trusts in Oz". Unfortunately we don't call the shots or they would be fired. You need for your GM to draft play makers even if it means giving up a couple of draft picks to move up in the draft. Obviously moving back in the draft to gain additional draft picks have led your team to be eliminated from making the playoffs 3 of the last 4 years. I'm sure you would rather have 3-4 play makers than 10-11 average (8-8) players drafted. Do you have the right personnel in place to facilitate your objective?

3rd decision Mr. Bisciotti ties in with your first decision. I am sure a new Head Coach will hire his own OC-DC including the position coaches. However, if you elect to retain coach Harbaugh in order to maintain stability like the Steelers did with Tomlin than you should know that your Offensive Coordinator should be replaced in order to return to the Ravens roots of a ground and pound running team. Also, your DC cannot keep going into a prevent defense and expect to win match ups. Yes Pees blitzes a lot, but are the blitzes disguised in the current 3-4 defense. Poor coaching on the defensive side along with average drafting has led your team to the current 8-8 record. Please put a stop and find a new DC.

4th decision Mr. Bisciotti is what to do with your current roster.

Did the 2016 roster have the talent to make the playoffs and even win in the playoffs, and the coaching staff was responsible for the 8-8 record? Or did you have a talented coaching staff trying to coach average or below average players which led to the 8-8 record? Or worse off did you have average players and a sub par coaching staff in 2016 which led to a disappointing 8-8 record? Good luck in your off season decision making Mr. Bisciotti. No longer trust in Ozzie. Go Ravens!!!

[b93333]

The FO will have a tough off season trying to put a winner on the field. First and foremost they have to deal with Joe's huge salary cap number. He has the highest salary of any NFL QB, when averaged over the life of the contract... per the Cheat sheet. PFF has him ranked as the 25th QB (it will probably go down a bit after today's performance). Secondly the Ravens now have a track record of whiffing in he early rounds of the draft. If both trends continue it's hard to see how they can be overcome for next season.

[ByTheBay]

11 minutes ago, JamesA119 said:

In my mind this team didn't improve from last year. We were 5-11 last year with all the injuries. This year playing with the starters most of the season with the exception of Jimmy Smith, we are 8-8. I'd say the team didn't improve much.

We had an easier schedule this year too due to placing 3rd in our division. You could agrue thats where we picked up the 3 extra wins this season. 

[ByTheBay]

47 minutes ago, sami said:

yeah, he also inherited a losing team. We were 5-11 when he got here in spite of all the "greatness" he inherited.

Wasn't 2007 the year we lost Jamal and McNair? Tough to win games when you lose your starting QB and RB. I don't care how great the defenses is. 

[law215]

  1 hour ago, law215 said:

Once Flacco got paid and the front office could not afford to deal Harbs a loaded hand, he has done nothing but throw coordinators and players under the bus.

His history of winning was when he inherited

pro bowlers and HOFs on defense
had a solid offense line
had productive vets and free agents like Heap, Mason, Maghee
and a better QB than Billick ever had
has a front office constantly provides him with former head coaches on his staff since they know he can't do it on his own

Now that he has to COACH and develop, he can't win

yeah, he also inherited a losing team. We were 5-11 when he got here in spite of all the "greatness" he inherited.

What does Harbs bring to the table?

In the 2007 5-11 season Billick had McNair who was old and injured and Kyle Boller. The defense was top 5, solid offensive line with Yanda, Grubbs, Jason Brown, Gaither, pro bowl TE Heap and Wr Mason were already on the team.

Rex Ryan as DC, FB Lorenzo ONeal, RB McGahee. That's a team with great players.

Harbs was setup for success.
When did you start following the Ravens?

[PalmBayRaven]

  2 hours ago, Purple Dawg 96 said:

Joe gotta go! Can't blame Ozzie and Co. and Harbs for this season Joe did not play up to what was expected of him because he had the pieces on Offense period point blank! QB #1 pick and do the regular draft process! THIS CANNOT BE HAPPENING! SMH

Whatever you're smoking you need to blow it out 'cus it's destroying your judgement. Flacco needs to go? Who are you going to put at QB? Tell me, who? We live in a world where Kirk Cousins is a keeper!

We need to fire our entire defense except for maybe for 6-8 players. THAT would be a start.

I honestly want you to tell me who you would pick up to be QB if you got rid of Flacco. I can't wait to hear this answer...

Here's my 2cents- Flacco was rated 25th in league before the game- probably drops to 27th after and there are only 32 teams. Almost anyone would be better than Flacco at this point. Don't get me wrong I like Joe, he's a nice guy ect but he has Sucked since signing the contract. Has forgotten basic mechanics and can't read defenses. We can't unload yet but as soon as we can we should.

[goldenboldin]

Firing Harbaugh or losing Flacco would be the dumbest thing the Ravens can do. The secondary is extremely slow. The pass rush is extremely old. The WR bunch is extremely average. Perriman has a steep learning curve and we have no legit playmakers at wideout. CB, OLB, WR. Fix any 2 of those 3 and we will have a better record next year. Also a must - get an OC that works well with Flacco like Kubiak once did. Flacco is not the problem, when he's put into a system that works for him. He's an above avg system QB. Making extreme moves like cutting HC or QB will only push us back onto the Browns level.

[TheConquerorWorm]

Firing Harbaugh or losing Flacco would be the dumbest thing the Ravens can do. The secondary is extremely slow. The pass rush is extremely old. The WR bunch is extremely average. Perriman has a steep learning curve and we have no legit playmakers at wideout. CB, OLB, WR. Fix any 2 of those 3 and we will have a better record next year. Also a must - get an OC that works well with Flacco like Kubiak once did. Flacco is not the problem, when he's put into a system that works for him. He's an above avg system QB. Making extreme moves like cutting HC or QB will only push us back onto the Browns level.

Exactly.

[bluehen]

Did marty pees and harbaugh get Fired yet

I think they all just did!

[bluehen]

  1 hour ago, JamesA119 said:

In my mind this team didn't improve from last year. We were 5-11 last year with all the injuries. This year playing with the starters most of the season with the exception of Jimmy Smith, we are 8-8. I'd say the team didn't improve much.

We had an easier schedule this year too due to placing 3rd in our division. You could agrue thats where we picked up the 3 extra wins this season. 

There is no way to put a positive spin on this the team played like crap!