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[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

58 minutes ago, balfan23 said:

Did Gilmore really have the excuse of being banged up this year? I know it was his excuse 2 years ago. I don't know ... he was a big time disappointment last year, so it is getting harder to get excited about him. Still, I'd like to see us try and work more with the young TEs. I grow weary of hearing about how Pitta led the world in receptions when it felt like 1/2 of them were generated in the worst game of the season last year v. the Bengals when it felt like he caught 20 balls for a total of 50 yards.  

Agreed, we likely will employ more 2 TE sets, especially with Juice gone. However, 6 TEs? Something has to give. No doubt the most confusing position group on the team. 

Yea i think he had offseason surgery, actually multiple surgeries... and then hurt his back and maybe had shoulder issues??

He was definitely hurt a good portion of last year.

[usmccharles]

51 minutes ago, PurpleCity5 said:

I don't think Gilmore is refined much. He doesn't know how to beat double teams and some of his routes are a little rusty. He doesn't move all that well either but I think he's definitely got a spot here. 

I think that guy has such raw talent, I was really looking forward to seeing him develop this last year.  He is a beast, but he might just be a bigger version of Camp

[rossihunter2]

19 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

I think that guy has such raw talent, I was really looking forward to seeing him develop this last year.  He is a beast, but he might just be a bigger version of Camp

they're both from the same class and this is around the time when prospects blow up for us and price themselves out of staying (i realise camp was cut and came back so it's different slightly) - i have a feeling crockett might take on a more boyle-esque role this year if all the tight ends stay healthy (im still assuming watson wont be here when the season starts but i guess there's a possibility he stays - but for the sake of argument let's say he doesnt)

i can see maxx and pitta being the starters with boyle playing more of the juice lead blocker / check down guy and crockett coming in as the 3rd tight end to go back to being a block first guy and occasionally sneaking down the seam or on a shallow cross and then waller coming in towards the red zone - this of course is off the top of my head and i havent really thought about it too comprehensively

[Ravens4Real]

6 hours ago, Edgar said:

I've said this before but...had Maxx been drafted by Pittsburgh he would be a budding star...certainly a fan favorite.

They probably would be doing some cutting edge stuff with him....you know, throwing him the ball.

Twice, in his rookie season he played entire games and was TARGETED.....zero times.

Heck, why did they even need to draft Maxx in the second?? They got Jesse James much later in the draft and he has outperformed and helped them much more than Maxx has come anywhere close to for us.

[allblackraven]

2 hours ago, balfan23 said:

Did Gilmore really have the excuse of being banged up this year? I know it was his excuse 2 years ago. I don't know ... he was a big time disappointment last year, so it is getting harder to get excited about him. Still, I'd like to see us try and work more with the young TEs. I grow weary of hearing about how Pitta led the world in receptions when it felt like 1/2 of them were generated in the worst game of the season last year v. the Bengals when it felt like he caught 20 balls for a total of 50 yards.  

Agreed, we likely will employ more 2 TE sets, especially with Juice gone. However, 6 TEs? Something has to give. No doubt the most confusing position group on the team. 

Gilmore had surgery on his shoulder and his other shoulder just missed the knife. Two separate tears on hamstring. That's not banged up, it's been real injuries.

[ellicottraven]

17 hours ago, RayRayRaven said:

eraven u r legend man, nobody has posted numbers like u an u deserve respekt. when u say walkers like wagner can be supplemented by decosta with cutoffs from other teams why cant they come from r own rosta that decosta builded? thats what funny

yah mighta been a good post anywhares from 2008 to 2012, but that dog wont hunt now.

briefity is the sole of wit

'Briefty is the sole of wit'!! If you gave me a full day to come up with that I would fail miserably! That was just too good RayRayRaven! Don't ever do emoticons any more. Just type away because reading and understanding them while really taxing, is also quite intoxicating!

[Purple Punishment]

In before the let's sign Art Jones people show up 

[PurpleCity5]

22 hours ago, usmccharles said:

I think that guy has such raw talent, I was really looking forward to seeing him develop this last year.  He is a beast, but he might just be a bigger version of Camp

 

I think he's a mighty fine player but he needs to improve in the mental and technical aspect of the game. He needs to sell and refine his routes, not only that but find the soft spots in coverages and learn how to beat double teams.

[rossihunter2]

46 minutes ago, Purple Punishment said:

In before the let's sign Art Jones people show up 

surely there won't be...

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

1 hour ago, rossihunter2 said:

surely there won't be...

dont be surprised...

[SepticeyePoe]

2 hours ago, Purple Punishment said:

In before the let's sign Art Jones people show up 

 

1 hour ago, rossihunter2 said:

surely there won't be...

 

12 minutes ago, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

dont be surprised...

Hey, we should sign Art Jones 

[rossihunter2]

7 hours ago, SepticeyePoe said:

 

 

Hey, we should sign Art Jones 

The fact that no one else jumped on that wagon in 7 hours gives me much hope for the fanbase

[Underdogsontop!]

On March 23, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Ravens4Real said:

Heck, why did they even need to draft Maxx in the second?? They got Jesse James much later in the draft and he has outperformed and helped them much more than Maxx has come anywhere close to for us.

That's just how the cookie crumbles some times. Maxx is still young and has a lot more time to get with it and be good for us. I remember thinking we got the better deal with Zadarious smith in the 4th and they took bud Dupree in the 1st. Smith out played Dupree in his 1st year. Don't get me wrong my expectations is high on maxx, but I guess we'll just have to wait.

[Willbacker]

10 hours ago, rossihunter2 said:

The fact that no one else jumped on that wagon in 7 hours gives me much hope for the fanbase

Lot less traffic in the offseason but the kicker is why not give him a looksee for a cheap short term deal like a 1 yr 1 mil deal especially if these trade rumors bout Jernigan are real and does happen. He wont count against the comp formula and I'm not fully invested into our other dlinemen cuz they've either done nothing or have barely seen the field if at all. We need bodies there and when he was here he was a passrushing threat no different than Jernigan.

[RayRayRaven]

18 hours ago, rossihunter2 said:

The fact that no one else jumped on that wagon in 7 hours gives me much hope for the fanbase

a jones played like a raven  he was betta than jerigan. ya he was  hurt but jerigan may be on the trade bloc due to jones

On ‎3‎/‎24‎/‎2017 at 1:37 PM, SepticeyePoe said:

 

 

Hey, we should sign Art Jones 

we shuld see if hes healthy and diffinitely work himn out

On ‎3‎/‎24‎/‎2017 at 11:12 AM, Purple Punishment said:

In before the let's sign Art Jones people show up 

bac to the future baby

On ‎3‎/‎24‎/‎2017 at 11:59 AM, rossihunter2 said:

surely there won't be...

yah there is and i'm bettin oz is in on this one to finaly

On ‎3‎/‎24‎/‎2017 at 1:23 PM, BOLDnPurPnBlacK said:

dont be surprised...

draff is comin big letter little letta and free agents still thjere

[SepticeyePoe]

3 hours ago, RayRayRaven said:

a jones played like a raven  he was betta than jerigan. ya he was  hurt but jerigan may be on the trade bloc due to jones

we shuld see if hes healthy and diffinitely work himn out

bac to the future baby

yah there is and i'm bettin oz is in on this one to finaly

draff is comin big letter little letta and free agents still thjere

I was joking when I said that.

I don't think it's likely that the Ravens bring him back.

[RayRayRaven]

22 hours ago, SepticeyePoe said:

I was joking when I said that.

I don't think it's likely that the Ravens bring him back.

can not think of anyone the ravens let walk to come back but if jones is well I would

[rossihunter2]

8 minutes ago, RayRayRaven said:

can not think of anyone the ravens let walk to come back but if jones is well I would

Why?

[Ravens4Real]

On 3/25/2017 at 2:24 AM, Underdogsontop! said:

That's just how the cookie crumbles some times. Maxx is still young and has a lot more time to get with it and be good for us. I remember thinking we got the better deal with Zadarious smith in the 4th and they took bud Dupree in the 1st. Smith out played Dupree in his 1st year. Don't get me wrong my expectations is high on maxx, but I guess we'll just have to wait.

Smith may have outplayed Dupree in his first year but Dupree played very well for them towards the end of last year. And Smith, as we all know, provided very little for our defense last year. 

[RayRayRaven]

12 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

Why?

cuz I doan think pagnano was wrong bout him if you look at guys we signed didnt walk say webb rice pitta flacco how well did we realy do?

[Underdogsontop!]

23 hours ago, Ravens4Real said:

Smith may have outplayed Dupree in his first year but Dupree played very well for them towards the end of last year. And Smith, as we all know, provided very little for our defense last year. 

So Hopefully Maxx outplays Steelers TE james this year....

[ravefan52]

Juice is the 9th highest paid RB in the league, based on average per year. Wow

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

4 minutes ago, ravefan52 said:

Juice is the 9th highest paid RB in the league, based on average per year. Wow

Niners gonna niner

 

[gtalk12]

I am curious as to who will pick up Revis...Seahawks maybe?

[BmoreBird22]

17 minutes ago, gtalk12 said:

I am curious as to who will pick up Revis...Seahawks maybe?

Favorites are NE

[rossihunter2]

17 minutes ago, gtalk12 said:

I am curious as to who will pick up Revis...Seahawks maybe?

Not sure he'll go anywhere tbh - he's currently getting something like 6mill not to play and because of offset language in his jets contract he loses money they could be paying him by signing with another team - the only way I see him playing is if he gets a contract worth more than 6mill per year which given his terrible form last year and ambiguous feelings on playing would be a horrible and unlikely investment any franchise would make - so I don't think he's playing anywhere except madden on his sofa at home this year enjoying his free money

[samitsheth]

A name I haven't seen mentioned much is Eric Walden he had 11 sacks last year and is 31 would love to see a 2 year deal or one year prove it deal and hope that he can be an upgrade from doom last year and allow suggs to rest not sure if anyone has any thoughts on him

 

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

14 hours ago, rossihunter2 said:

Not sure he'll go anywhere tbh - he's currently getting something like 6mill not to play and because of offset language in his jets contract he loses money they could be paying him by signing with another team - the only way I see him playing is if he gets a contract worth more than 6mill per year which given his terrible form last year and ambiguous feelings on playing would be a horrible and unlikely investment any franchise would make - so I don't think he's playing anywhere except madden on his sofa at home this year enjoying his free money

He makes at least $6m no matter what. 

If another team pays him $2m the Jets still owe him $4m. Only way Jets don't pay him something is if another team offers him at least $6m. 

So that won't impact if he plays or not. Just a matter if he wants to play for $6m or sit at home and make that. 

Edited March 28 by BOLDnPurPnBlacK

[Ravens4Real]

14 hours ago, Underdogsontop! said:

So Hopefully Maxx outplays Steelers TE james this year....

I'll believe it when I see it. 

[rmw10]

First inclination that Lewis might not actually stay at LG today.  Harbaugh said they'd like to keep him at LG but he's a wildcard who could end up competing at RT or C as well.