Mock Drafts from the Media

[rmw10]

26 minutes ago, JonnyBaltimore said:

My issue is if Hooker is the Ball Hawk that people don't throw to in the secondary, then the corners on Ohio State are a bit more difficult to assess. I mean if you have that type of player playing over the top, the opposing offence is funneled away from that side of the field, and the corners have it ''easier''.

To have Conley, Lattimore and Booker all top 20 picks is going to come down to who is the one making the plays or influencing the plays the most.

Study the traits - most important part of scouting. Talent around players certainly helps, but you can't focus on the stats. Hip movement, discipline, etc. all things I evaluate before I even look at PDs, INTs, and other stats. 

[allblackraven]

32 minutes ago, ravensnation5220 said:

Get this. Mel kiper mocked us Jabrill Peppers.......guess who the redskins picked at 17.......malik hooker lol

Scary part is that kiper mocked us Ronnie Stanley in his first mock. We would have been outraged if we took Stanley over tunsil at this time last year yet we did

No - quite a few of us always preferred Stanley over Tunsil.

[JoeyFlex5]

1 hour ago, JonnyBaltimore said:

My issue is if Hooker is the Ball Hawk that people don't throw to in the secondary, then the corners on Ohio State are a bit more difficult to assess. I mean if you have that type of player playing over the top, the opposing offence is funneled away from that side of the field, and the corners have it ''easier''.

To have Conley, Lattimore and Booker all top 20 picks is going to come down to who is the one making the plays or influencing the plays the most.

hooker plays mostly single high and roamer, he cuts the field vertically, not horizontally, and he isnt eliminating players, hes just a guy who the qb has to be aware of. it allows the cbs to play with more confidence about their coverage up top which allows for more risky play, but if you watch a guy like lattimores film you can see that hooker isnt the reason lattimore looks impressive, hooker isnt the reason for lattimore successfully re-routing every guy he plays tight with, hes not responsible for his amazing mirroring skills, hooker isnt the one copying every little twitch movement of the receiver and basically running the route for the receiver and never losing the step. 

i watched 2 games of conleys and one was absolutely horrible and the other was solid. he is a mid 2nd to me so far but i definitely need to watch more. 

i would probably put lattimore top 10 at this point.

[JoeyFlex5]

1 hour ago, allblackraven said:

No - quite a few of us always preferred Stanley over Tunsil.

i did for a long time up until about this time of the year, and my disdain for stanley was due to the BS rumors about his laziness that i ate up for some reason. 

before that i was actually clamoring for stanley over guys like bosa and ramsey, very early in the process.

[Sizzlebshu]

On 1/17/2017 at 4:50 PM, Italian Raven said:

Jeremiah also forgot Lawson, Cunningham, Eflein in his top 50 and wrote about McKinley that he " ... is at his best when he's shooting gaps and relying on his quickness. Overall, McKinley could struggle on run downs but he's a major force on passing downs."
Can struggle on run downs? lol 
DJ and Mayock have really started to lose some ground lately. 

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[rossihunter2]

On 19/01/2017 at 10:14 PM, ravensnation5220 said:

Get this. Mel kiper mocked us Jabrill Peppers.......guess who the redskins picked at 17.......malik hooker lol

Scary part is that kiper mocked us Ronnie Stanley in his first mock. We would have been outraged if we took Stanley over tunsil at this time last year yet we did

I think we have to remember that that first mock was before two teams traded to the top of the first to take qbs etc - it's nothing more than coincidence - a lot of people had us initially take Ronnie Stanley but also had tunsil going as the first pick 

[RaineV1]

On 1/19/2017 at 5:14 PM, ravensnation5220 said:

Get this. Mel kiper mocked us Jabrill Peppers.......guess who the redskins picked at 17.......malik hooker lol

Scary part is that kiper mocked us Ronnie Stanley in his first mock. We would have been outraged if we took Stanley over tunsil at this time last year yet we did

On the topic of Kiper, there was an article on what teams' drafts would be like if he was right in his first mocks since 2010: http://www.phillyvoice.com/your-teams-first-round-picks-2010-if-mel-kipers-initial-mock-drafts-were-accurate/

His first mocks since 2010 for the Ravens: TE Jermaine Gresham, CB Brandon Harris, LB Vontaze Burfict, LB Kevin Minter, TE Eric Ebron, WR Devin Funchess, OT Ronnie Stanley. Stanley is the only time he got it right, and predicting higher up picks is easier.

Edited January 21 by RaineV1

[ravensnation5220]

18 minutes ago, RaineV1 said:

On the topic of Kiper, there was an article on what teams' drafts would be like if he was right in his first mocks since 2010: http://www.phillyvoice.com/your-teams-first-round-picks-2010-if-mel-kipers-initial-mock-drafts-were-accurate/

His first mocks since 2010 for the Ravens: TE Jermaine Gresham, CB Brandon Harris, LB Vontaze Burfict, LB Kevin Minter, TE Eric Ebron, WR Devin Funchess, OT Ronnie Stanley. Stanley is the only time he got it right, and predicted higher up picks is easier.

Lol good point. When can we have the vote thread? I've been asking for a while now but Idk who does it

[allblackraven]

1 hour ago, ravensnation5220 said:

Lol good point. When can we have the vote thread? I've been asking for a while now but Idk who does it

It's way too soon for that - there's 3 1/2 months until draft, people changing their mind daily after near every highlight reel / tape watched.

[Darhk_Raven]

Charlie from Walter Football has us taking Quincy Wilson, Alvin Kamara, and Carl Lawson this go around. 

[RaineV1]

27 minutes ago, Darhk_Raven said:

Charlie from Walter Football has us taking Quincy Wilson, Alvin Kamara, and Carl Lawson this go around. 

Not a huge fan of taking a RB that early, but Kamara is a really good running back, and he'd be a huge upgrade over West. Kamara and Dixon could be a hell of a RB tandem. It'd one of those picks where people would be disappointed at the time, but later love when he's making big plays as a receiver out of the backfield.

[Jonah DeVito]

On 1/1/2017 at 11:33 PM, RavensDieHard21 said:

Tim Williams or Sidney jones. We absolutely need either a corner or pass rusher in the first. If character comes in though I think Sidney Jones is a home run pick. Sick ball skills. Has the size. He has great technique and shadowing ability. To have him Jimmy and Tavon in the secondary with Weddle is hard to pass on.

If we could get someone like Jones we could have a top 5 secondary if everyone were to stay healthy 

Edited January 23 by Jonah DeVito

[RavensDieHard21]

1 hour ago, Jonah DeVito said:

If we could get someone like Jones we could have a top 5 secondary if everyone were to stay healthy 

I think jones only trails Lattimore in pure skill and potential. He is already very well refined coming in. His ball skills also helps our turnover ratio too 

[Jonah DeVito]

On 1/4/2017 at 4:15 PM, Tyler said:

 The only thing that would upset me about drafting Dalvin Cook is if Marty Mornhinweg failed to properly utilize him. Cook is a guy that could be an absolute game changer. Dixon is a good back, but Dalvin Cook has the potential to be great. In an offense lacking game changers, Cook would be welcomed.

Id argue that Dixon absolutely has the potential to be one of the best running backs in the league. 

[Boddiebroadus]

26 minutes ago, Jonah DeVito said:

Id argue that Dixon absolutely has the potential to be one of the best running backs in the league. 

I completely agree. The few times he actually ran the ball he was constantly getting yards after contact. If he was lead back I can see him in top 10 total yards. 

[RaineV1]

Dane Brugler is dead set on the Ravens taking Cook in the first. The latest Bleacher Report mock has us getting Mike Williams.

[RavensDieHard21]

1 hour ago, RaineV1 said:

Dane Brugler is dead set on the Ravens taking Cook in the first. The latest Bleacher Report mock has us getting Mike Williams.

Williams would be an insane grab, but I could see it happening if Davis, cook and Fournette all go first. 

Cook is a great talent and it won't surprise me but it will be an utter disappointment 

[January J]

12 hours ago, RaineV1 said:

Dane Brugler is dead set on the Ravens taking Cook in the first. The latest Bleacher Report mock has us getting Mike Williams.

For some reason I just get that feeling that Cook will be our guy. If he falls to 16 I see oz pulling the trigger almost without hesitation. It may not be popular at first- but if we bolster our o line and get back to that run first raven mentality it could do wonders. Then if we make a FA splash for  a vet receiver such as Marshall or Jeffrey imagine how much joes game could improve. May not be a bad idea. Take a rb 1st...then focus on getting a mauling center. Cornerback also has to be addressed before the third round. If we can be aggressive and trade back into the second to get one of the falling DBs that would be my ideal scenario.

1) Cook

2) Pocic

3) trade up for best available corner or safety. Desmond king maybe? Finally cut ties with Webby and use those savings for a vet cb.

The rest of the draft can be pass rush pass rush pass rush- and then maybe take a stab at a backup qb. Who knows- might get lucky like the cowboys did.

 

 

Just imagining Dixon, Cook and West behind a stout o line has got me salivating. Then if we were to get Joe a true #1 through FA-  along with Wallace and perriman we could really open up the passing game and the deep ball/ play action plays will actually work. We really need maxx to take that next step but Waller could be our guy. If crock stays healthy and Boyle keeps his nose clean we will have a very formidable offense. Pitta is still a major question mark in my eyes. If he doesn't take a paycut unfortunately hes gotta go. But that could leave us vulnerable iif those guys don't do what we need  them to.. Really blows to see Jesse James striving in pitts offense and maxx struggling like crazy.

Edited January 24 by January J

[JoeyFlex5]

I'd be upset with taking cook, honestly. I think cook is an incredible prospect, I love his style of play being powerful enough to hit all holes and stay on his feet after contact but having breakaway speed and great elusiveness. I just wouldn't be happy taking a rb in the first. Hell I'd rather trade back and take feeney and then hope to land pocic and run with Dixon who I think has top 5 potential. Dixon and cook are incredibly similar backs anyway so it's not like we'd be adding diversity to our backfield with him. 

[Jacquouille]

On 18/01/2017 at 7:54 AM, JoeyFlex5 said:

Guillermo is starting to challenge elflein in my book. 

Guillermo is stronger but he can't move much, nevermind pulling or going to the second level. 

[January J]

1 hour ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I'd be upset with taking cook, honestly. I think cook is an incredible prospect, I love his style of play being powerful enough to hit all holes and stay on his feet after contact but having breakaway speed and great elusiveness. I just wouldn't be happy taking a rb in the first. Hell I'd rather trade back and take feeney and then hope to land pocic and run with Dixon who I think has top 5 potential. Dixon and cook are incredibly similar backs anyway so it's not like we'd be adding diversity to our backfield with him. 

Very true. I'm kind of torn on the idea. Part of me hates it and part of me thinks it might be a good idea.

[ravensnation5220]

Everyone needs to get off the idea of taking cook. It's not going to happen especially with his multiple arrests. He had a DV case, granted it was dropped, but he also had a dog issue. I just see too many red flags with his arrests for oz to take a chance on him

[rossihunter2]

1 hour ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I'd be upset with taking cook, honestly. I think cook is an incredible prospect, I love his style of play being powerful enough to hit all holes and stay on his feet after contact but having breakaway speed and great elusiveness. I just wouldn't be happy taking a rb in the first. Hell I'd rather trade back and take feeney and then hope to land pocic and run with Dixon who I think has top 5 potential. Dixon and cook are incredibly similar backs anyway so it's not like we'd be adding diversity to our backfield with him. 

if im honest, and this might not be popular, but i dont want dalvin cook because of the off field issues - id 100% back this front office if they wanted no part in him because of the DV case (even if he was found not guilty)

[RaineV1]

35 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

if im honest, and this might not be popular, but i dont want dalvin cook because of the off field issues - id 100% back this front office if they wanted no part in him because of the DV case (even if he was found not guilty)

Cook may have been a BPA pick for us originally, but with his DV charge, I can see the Ravens not wanting to touch him in the first round.

[rossihunter2]

31 minutes ago, RaineV1 said:

Cook may have been a BPA pick for us originally, but with his DV charge, I can see the Ravens not wanting to touch him in the first round.

don't forget the animal thing as well

[ravensnation5220]

Everyone's been bring up this idea of trading back. I'm honestly on board with it as long as we can use that to get back into the second round. There are so many guys I the first 3 rounds who can become NFL starters day 1. With the possibility of needing 13 new starters next year I want as many guys in the top 3 rounds as we can get, and odds are any of our top prospects for the 16th pick will be gone. We can trade back maybe even out of the top 20 and still land a guy who was top 15 on our board

[CalvinSmoke]

I haven't kept up with this class like I did last year. I'd love for us to go guard or center in the first. How do those prospects look?

[JoeyFlex5]

16 minutes ago, CalvinSmoke said:

I haven't kept up with this class like I did last year. I'd love for us to go guard or center in the first. How do those prospects look?

Feeney is a blue chip guard. 

Pocic is a damn good looking center prospect who could play any spot but LT in a pinch but is very tall for a center 

elflein looks like a year 2 starting center

guillermo and fuller both look promising as well

[arnie_uk]

7 hours ago, rossihunter2 said:

if im honest, and this might not be popular, but i dont want dalvin cook because of the off field issues - id 100% back this front office if they wanted no part in him because of the DV case (even if he was found not guilty)

Your like a parrot. Maybe it's just coincidence but I have seen you post virtually the same thing 2 minutes after someone else posted the same thoughts as if it were your own.

[RavensDieHard21]

8 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Feeney is a blue chip guard. 

Pocic is a damn good looking center prospect who could play any spot but LT in a pinch but is very tall for a center 

elflein looks like a year 2 starting center

guillermo and fuller both look promising as well

Forrest Lamp looks to be the real deal to, but at guard. Watch the Alabama tape. He was a beast out there