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Mock Drafts from the Media

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1 minute ago, rossihunter2 said:

Which even if the domestic assault turns out to have unfounded - the dogs and the rep will at least drop him down our board even if he doesn't completely come off it, but I can't imagine he'd be on our board if there was any uncertainty around the domestic violence issues - what was the source by the way?

The source for the quote?

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9 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

Which even if the domestic assault turns out to have unfounded - the dogs and the rep will at least drop him down our board even if he doesn't completely come off it, but I can't imagine he'd be on our board if there was any uncertainty around the domestic violence issues - what was the source by the way?

 https://amp.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000690216/article/sources-tell-us-what-were-hearing-about-fsu-rb-dalvin-cook?networkId=4595&site=.news&zone=story&zoneUrl=url%3Dstory&zoneKeys=s1%3Dstory&env=&pageKeyValues=prtnr%3Dcollege-football%3Bplyr%3Djamaal_charles&p.ct=CFB 24%2F7&p.adsm=false&p.tcm=%23ffffff&p.bgc1m=%23000000&sr=amp

That's were the quote came from

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/13252235/dalvin-cook-florida-state-seminoles-strike-woman-attorney-says

And some other info on the topic

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The problem here is that it's not just one incident. That's what worries me. Kinda like the Tim Williams problem. It's a repeated off the feild issue with these kids

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I think Dalvin Cook will be off our board. Tim williams im not so sure. He doesn't have any issues with domestic violence. Unless he fails a drug test at the combine lol

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6 hours ago, Davesta said:

i dont think there's a chance of that happening at all - not sure corey davis is worth it at 16, jackson will probably be there at 48 but i doubt he's the best player available, anderson will go at the latest in the 2nd, guillermo probably goes in the 3rd or 4th

it would be amazing if that happened but i dont think its even close to feasible

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8 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

i dont think there's a chance of that happening at all - not sure corey davis is worth it at 16, jackson will probably be there at 48 but i doubt he's the best player available, anderson will go at the latest in the 2nd, guillermo probably goes in the 3rd or 4th

it would be amazing if that happened but i dont think its even close to feasible

i actually just created a topic about risers and fallers where i said jackson was gonna fly up boards. jackson may be rated mid 2nd right now but when he kills the combine hes gonna rise to the first, cbs and explosive playmakers are both in high demand and its hard for teams picking late to find them, someone in the latter half of the first round will take a chance on him. 

and what makes you say davis isnt worth it at 16? i mean hes not my first choice, but thats a talent level that flacco has never worked with before. hes had some great reliable veterans but he has never had a guy who can do what corey davis does, and with ozzie saying he wants a complementary receiver, well thats what davis is. him, wallace, and perriman would make a lethal trio, and because davis is that guy that complements their speed with great routes and a big body and a great catch radius. those passes thrown short of the sticks become first downs with corey davis catching the ball. hes a legit top 20 talent.

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31 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

i actually just created a topic about risers and fallers where i said jackson was gonna fly up boards. jackson may be rated mid 2nd right now but when he kills the combine hes gonna rise to the first, cbs and explosive playmakers are both in high demand and its hard for teams picking late to find them, someone in the latter half of the first round will take a chance on him. 

and what makes you say davis isnt worth it at 16? i mean hes not my first choice, but thats a talent level that flacco has never worked with before. hes had some great reliable veterans but he has never had a guy who can do what corey davis does, and with ozzie saying he wants a complementary receiver, well thats what davis is. him, wallace, and perriman would make a lethal trio, and because davis is that guy that complements their speed with great routes and a big body and a great catch radius. those passes thrown short of the sticks become first downs with corey davis catching the ball. hes a legit top 20 talent.

ill concede the point on davis that he might be right - i just always assume that other teams will take players not in our top 16 so we end up with a top 10 type player - but in terms of cbs i think the sheer number of them might mean someone like jackson might not rise as much off of a great workout

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16 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

ill concede the point on davis that he might be right - i just always assume that other teams will take players not in our top 16 so we end up with a top 10 type player - but in terms of cbs i think the sheer number of them might mean someone like jackson might not rise as much off of a great workout

he will rise if others are falling. tabor and humphrey already seem to be falling, im seeing tabor out of the top 20 quite a bit and a month ago humphrey was often mocked as the first cb off the board. someones gotta fill that void. i actually think jackson is the 3rd cb in the class after sidney jones and quincy wilson are tied for first, and i think when the others fall jackson will rise and take their place.

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Just seen a mock from San Diego Tribune having us take Quincy Wilson and Charles Harris. Highly unrealistic but I'd give away both 3rds if I could guarantee this happened. 

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1 minute ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

Just seen a mock from San Diego Tribune having us take Quincy Wilson and Charles Harris. Highly unrealistic but I'd give away both 3rds if I could guarantee this happened. 

How would you feel about us taking Harris in the 1st if he does well enough at the Combine and then Cordrea Tankersley in the 2nd?

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4 hours ago, Darhk_Raven said:

How would you feel about us taking Harris in the 1st if he does well enough at the Combine and then Cordrea Tankersley in the 2nd?

I know the question ain't for me but I feel like the combine won't change what I think of Harris by one bit. And I mean it, regardless of its positive or negative outcome.

He has showed often enough he has an amazing speed and a great feeling for the position. On every play in which he beats his man on the outside you clearly see he has an average bend at most (totally agree with Joey here) but he ends up winning because of his unmatched speed. 

I don't know if it's any possible to work on his stiffness (and jeez.. Someone please teach him how to play the run) but the talented is there and it's undeniable.

After Laws he's my favourite 1st round pass rusher (I would put Takk right there as well but he's more of an Edge Defender than a QB hunter at this stage of his development).

I've had up on downs on this but atm I wouldn't be against him at 16.

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5 hours ago, Darhk_Raven said:

How would you feel about us taking Harris in the 1st if he does well enough at the Combine and then Cordrea Tankersley in the 2nd?

You could do a lot worse.

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37 minutes ago, Jacquouille said:

http://draftwire.usatoday.com/2017/01/16/2017-nfl-mock-draft-latest-3-round-projections-2/

Probably the best scenario I've seen in a mock draft. 3rd pick could be better though, even if I like the player.

Yeah I see Evan engrams going right after. Id love engram on this offense, he would be a seriously perfect fit 

although I don't see Harris falling to 48, seems to be out of the question considering he's already viewed as a first and his combine should only help, if not explode his stock.

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13 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Yeah I see Evan engrams going right after. Id love engram on this offense, he would be a seriously perfect fit 

although I don't see Harris falling to 48, seems to be out of the question considering he's already viewed as a first and his combine should only help, if not explode his stock.

Engram is also a personnal favorite, I also noted Dorian Johnson was there for the taking. 

I mean, it's a full mock draft so it's not like it's biased or ideal, it's a scenario that a non ravens fan (whose evalutations on players are usually very legit) imagined so it's pretty realistic.

And I don't see Harris killing the combine, he's an explosive guy with plenty of athleticism to work with but far from a physical freak, and I don't see him do very well in the position drills.

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On 1/1/2017 at 10:04 AM, RaineV1 said:

Thought it might be a good idea to have a single thread for us to post interesting or awful Ravens' picks in mock drafts from the media. Let's start with one of the worst ones I've seen, courtesy of Dane Brugler:

Note: Charles Harris, Takkarist McKinley, and Sydney Jones were still on the board at this point in his mock.

Elsewhere, yesterday, Eddie Brown of the San Diego Tribune posted a two round mock. He had the Ravens taking:

I would be pretty happy if this one happened.

I'd much rather have a decent CB over a RB.

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9 hours ago, Darhk_Raven said:

How would you feel about us taking Harris in the 1st if he does well enough at the Combine and then Cordrea Tankersley in the 2nd?

I mean I wouldn't be pissed or anything. We do need a pass rusher and his burst and finishing speed is top notch, but I feel there will be more complete ball players on the board still, whether it be Sid Jones or Quincy Wilson, perhaps even Cook or one of the top safeties. I like Harris if Barnett, Jones, Wilson, Cook, Fournette, Foster, and Williams are gone. At that point it is worth it. 

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2 hours ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

I mean I wouldn't be pissed or anything. We do need a pass rusher and his burst and finishing speed is top notch, but I feel there will be more complete ball players on the board still, whether it be Sid Jones or Quincy Wilson, perhaps even Cook or one of the top safeties. I like Harris if Barnett, Jones, Wilson, Cook, Fournette, Foster, and Williams are gone. At that point it is worth it. 

My thought with that set up was that Jones and Wilson were gone along with the other pass rushers ahead of him... If we were to draft Foster what would you do with him seeing as Mosley and Orr hardly ever come off the field?

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1 hour ago, Darhk_Raven said:

My thought with that set up was that Jones and Wilson were gone along with the other pass rushers ahead of him... If we were to draft Foster what would you do with him seeing as Mosley and Orr hardly ever come off the field?

I could see Foster rotating behind both Orr and Mosley early in the game to keep both of them fresh for the 4th quarter. Also does anyone have any updates on Mosley's injury that he suffered against the Bengals?

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5 hours ago, mc_red23 said:

Reuben Foster will be gone well before we pick. 

Probably, but it's not unheard of that a guy like him drops solely due to his position. Mosely dropped to 17. Given Ozzie had a top 10 grade on him, I highly doubt Mosely dropped for talent related reasons. 

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14 hours ago, Jacquouille said:

http://draftwire.usatoday.com/2017/01/16/2017-nfl-mock-draft-latest-3-round-projections-2/

Probably the best scenario I've seen in a mock draft. 3rd pick could be better though, even if I like the player.

I would cry tears of joy no doubt. Scouts afraid of his inconsistent run defense could allow him to slide early to mid second. 

The one player I seen that we would absolutely need to make a play for had the first round played out like this is Barnett. If he gets past 12 we need to pounce. Cincy and Indy are the main competition and if we can use the pick strapped Eagles to leap frog the colts then Ozzie needs to sip some Freakin coffee and realize that talent level at hand. 

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