Mock Drafts from the Media

[JoeyFlex5]

3 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

it's incredibly lazy if it isn't true - i guess the only reason he'd have for not changing them is if he thinks we are the only team who'd have these guys high and other teams won't which feels crazy - if he were changing the picks to those guys from other picks id be more worried but the fact that he's been set on those two through the whole process makes me think he's banking on michigan and bama bias to win the day and cant be bothered to change them... i just cant see any way that wormley is BPA even in the 3rd round let alone the first 2 rounds

His rationale is "the ravens get their replacement for Timmy Jernigan"

his rationale is always so lazy, I used to respect his analysis til this year. It's always "X team gets their Y" then rattles off a bunch of basic stats. Before he got stuck on wormley he was stuck on kamara and foreman and Royce freeman before he opted to return to school, and his rationale was "the ravens could use more talent at running back. _____ ran for X yards and Y touchdowns in 2016" word for word every week and he would just rotate different running backs at the pick. He's been garbage this year

[52520Andrew]

1 minute ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

His rationale is "the ravens get their replacement for Timmy Jernigan"

his rationale is always so lazy, I used to respect his analysis til this year. It's always "X team gets their Y" then rattles off a bunch of basic stats. Before he got stuck on wormley he was stuck on kamara and foreman and Royce freeman before he opted to return to school, and his rationale was "the ravens could use more talent at running back. _____ ran for X yards and Y touchdowns in 2016" word for word every week and he would just rotate different running backs at the pick. He's been garbage this year

Maybe Walterfootball is doing his mocks for him all of a sudden lol

[rossihunter2]

2 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

His rationale is "the ravens get their replacement for Timmy Jernigan"

his rationale is always so lazy, I used to respect his analysis til this year. It's always "X team gets their Y" then rattles off a bunch of basic stats. Before he got stuck on wormley he was stuck on kamara and foreman and Royce freeman before he opted to return to school, and his rationale was "the ravens could use more talent at running back. _____ ran for X yards and Y touchdowns in 2016" word for word every week and he would just rotate different running backs at the pick. He's been garbage this year

maybe he's being iced by teams because he revealed too much last year? or the ravens at least?

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

1 hour ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Am I the only one who wants to punch Charlie Campbell? He is changing around every teams mocks but he has been dead set on us taking cam Robinson and Chris wormley for weeks. I'd call for ozzies resignation if that was our first 2 rounds

Both he and Walter have had us taking Cam for weeks.

But I think Walter's pick of us taking Cam is 100% based on Charlie's "source" telling him we really like Cam at 16.

 

I think its just lazy BS. The only snippet he's heard about who we like is the, probably, loosely related source that tied us to Cam so hes sticking with it in the off chance its true, so he'll look like a genius while everyone else is mocking WR or pass rush.

[Sami84]

If Robinson and wormely are the picks, i dont think anyone here could not NOT question if this FO has gone to absolute you know what.

[JoeyFlex5]

18 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

If Robinson and wormely are the picks, i dont think anyone here could not NOT question if this FO has gone to absolute you know what.

I can live with Robinson, I'd be really pissed if we took him over a lot of available guys and didn't move back, but I can understand it, despite how much I don't like it. 

However... he and wormley 1 and 2 is gg for me. I'd be done. We need a boost in the run game and we need OL improvement in general, what we don't need is another meatshield on the DL to eat blocks and let substandard players fail to handle the 1on1 opportunities said meatshield grants them, what we need is some players who just match up well and can beat guys without the DLs help, make everyone better across the front by bringing an elite threat, rather than freeing up weak players with large players who DONT pose a threat because they're too damn slow and lumbering to rush the passer. 

Add the fact that wormley simply isn't a round 2 talent compounds all of that

Edited April 26 by JoeyFlex5

[rossihunter2]

23 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I can live with Robinson, I'd be really pissed if we took him over a lot of available guys and didn't move back, but I can understand it, despite how much I don't like it. 

However... he and wormley 1 and 2 is gg for me. I'd be done. We need a boost in the run game and we need OL improvement in general, what we don't need is another meatshield on the DL to eat blocks and let substandard players fail to handle the 1on1 opportunities said meatshield grants them, what we need is some players who just match up well and can beat guys without the DLs help, make everyone better across the front by bringing an elite threat, rather than freeing up weak players with large players who DONT pose a threat because they're too damn slow and lumbering to rush the passer. 

Add the fact that wormley simply isn't a round 2 talent compounds all of that

exactly - at the moment i have wormley 93 on my big board (which is probably a little unkind but he'll never see it so who cares) and he'd come into a logjammed position - we'd essentially have 2 nose tackles and 3tech/nose tackles on our roster all fighting for snaps when there probably arent enough snaps to go around there as it is - id be really surprised if we drafted a defensive lineman who wasn't a 5tech/d end before day 3 - day 3 is the only place where i see any d tackles coming into play unless the value is ridiculous

[Davesta]

Mike mayock got us taking reddick over Corey Davis. How to feel...

[ravensnation5220]

22 minutes ago, Davesta said:

Mike mayock got us taking reddick over Corey Davis. How to feel...

Reddicks value trumps Davis. I honestly dont think WRs are that valuable in the league. No matter how much people want one here

[Davesta]

7 minutes ago, ravensnation5220 said:

Reddicks value trumps Davis. I honestly dont think WRs are that valuable in the league. No matter how much people want one here

When all you have on the roster is Wallace, perriman, and unknowns, I tend to believe drafting a WR is a must. Well there's always the 2nd round

[rmw10]

12 minutes ago, Davesta said:

When all you have on the roster is Wallace, perriman, and unknowns, I tend to believe drafting a WR is a must. Well there's always the 2nd round

I'd probably lean more toward day 2 to hopefully try to solve WR, and I'd guess that's what we end up doing.

[ravensnation5220]

14 minutes ago, Davesta said:

When all you have on the roster is Wallace, perriman, and unknowns, I tend to believe drafting a WR is a must. Well there's always the 2nd round

Exactly my point. The value in the 2nd round would be much better. You want your 1st round pick to be a transcendent player. Reddick is built for todays NFL.

Even recuevers in the 3rd round would have better value. I see Taywan Taylor as a poor mans Corey davis.

[BmoreBird22]

9 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

I'd probably lean more toward day 2 to hopefully try to solve WR, and I'd guess that's what we end up doing.

The big issue is really only Williams and Davis would do it for me personally and I think the FO views it that way too and expects neither to be there.

[rmw10]

1 minute ago, BmoreBird22 said:

The big issue is really only Williams and Davis would do it for me personally and I think the FO views it that way too and expects neither to be there.

I'd go further and just narrow that down to Davis.  I think if we are going to go WR, he's the guy.  It would not shock me at all if we pass on Williams, but I don't expect him to be there anyways.  Just a gut feeling more than anything.

[BmoreBird22]

1 minute ago, rmw10 said:

I'd go further and just narrow that down to Davis.  I think if we are going to go WR, he's the guy.  It would not shock me at all if we pass on Williams, but I don't expect him to be there anyways.  Just a gut feeling more than anything.

I can't see them passing on Williams considering he brings such a different dynamic and is exactly the type of receiver Joe flourishes with. Massive catch radius, 50/50 balls, back shoulder fades. What's not to like?

[rmw10]

2 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I can't see them passing on Williams considering he brings such a different dynamic and is exactly the type of receiver Joe flourishes with. Massive catch radius, 50/50 balls, back shoulder fades. What's not to like?

Separation and routes.  I agree with you for what it's worth.  Just a gut feeling that the team wouldn't.

[BmoreBird22]

1 minute ago, rmw10 said:

Separation and routes.  I agree with you for what it's worth.  Just a gut feeling that the team wouldn't.

I think separation and routes will come with practice and I trust Engram to coach that up more than I would Hostler.

[rmw10]

1 minute ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I think separation and routes will come with practice and I trust Engram to coach that up more than I would Hostler.

I don't think it will end up mattering anyways.  I expect him to be the 1st WR off the board.

[BmoreBird22]

Just now, rmw10 said:

I don't think it will end up mattering anyways.  I expect him to be the 1st WR off the board.

I think he goes to SD.

[Edgar]

8 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I can live with Robinson, I'd be really pissed if we took him over a lot of available guys and didn't move back, but I can understand it, despite how much I don't like it. 

However... he and wormley 1 and 2 is gg for me. I'd be done. We need a boost in the run game and we need OL improvement in general, what we don't need is another meatshield on the DL to eat blocks and let substandard players fail to handle the 1on1 opportunities said meatshield grants them, what we need is some players who just match up well and can beat guys without the DLs help, make everyone better across the front by bringing an elite threat, rather than freeing up weak players with large players who DONT pose a threat because they're too damn slow and lumbering to rush the passer. 

Add the fact that wormley simply isn't a round 2 talent compounds all of that

They are targeting Wormley. That's been my fear for weeks.

 

[Sami84]

I will say that I will raise an eyebrow if we have 2-3 + draft picks from Alabama and Michigan.

 

[trevorsteadman]

22 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

I will say that I will raise an eyebrow if we have 2-3 + draft picks from Alabama and Michigan.

 

I won't if it is Reubon Foster/OJ Howard round 1 and Jabrill Peppers/Taco Charlton in round 2.

Edited April 27 by trevorsteadman

[Edgar]

17 minutes ago, Sami84 said:

I will say that I will raise an eyebrow if we have 2-3 + draft picks from Alabama and Michigan.

 

Jernigans  being traded, I think had not a little to do with his relationship with Harbaugh.

I would hope Jim Harbaughs influence does not extend to Ozzie.

To be fair, Wormley will be a solid pro but THERE is no way he's a 2nd round pick.

 

[rossihunter2]

It's funny that all the NFL media "analysts" have us going with a receiver except for one who says tackle and mayock who says reddick - knowing how badly these guys usually do with the Ravens I have to say that a pass rusher feels even more likely now lol

[JoeyFlex5]

36 minutes ago, Edgar said:

They are targeting Wormley. That's been my fear for weeks.

 

are you saying theyre targeting wormley? or that you fear that they are?

[Edgar]

Sorry. A hunch that they are ......and that I fear they are.

I've only connected dots. Jernigan leaves....Harbaugh connection ....the fact that we've met with him twice, ( along with only two other players).

I'd say they are interested in him. Don't like it but this feels like the type of guy we've picked of late.

Perhaps with a 2nd round trade back....maybe the third but he's getting tons of second round hype recently.

 

[rossihunter2]

14 minutes ago, Edgar said:

Sorry. A hunch that they are ......and that I fear they are.

I've only connected dots. Jernigan leaves....Harbaugh connection ....the fact that we've met with him twice, ( along with only two other players).

I'd say they are interested in him. Don't like it but this feels like the type of guy we've picked of late.

Perhaps with a 2nd round trade back....maybe the third but he's getting tons of second round hype recently.

 

If we really do pick wormley in the 2nd I might have to check out for a bit because I'm not sure there's any situation or angle which I can talk myself into with that pick - I'll have to go and quietly seethe on my own for a few months (not that that will be difficult once the board closes)

[Sami84]

15 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

If we really do pick wormley in the 2nd I might have to check out for a bit because I'm not sure there's any situation or angle which I can talk myself into with that pick - I'll have to go and quietly seethe on my own for a few months (not that that will be difficult once the board closes)

 

 if we blow this draft we'll be bottom of the AFC north in no time. On a brighter note, if that happens, the harbaugh era will be over..

[RavensDieHard21]

Interesting that SSS sees Ross as a better value than Williams. I get the separation issue, yet that easily gets made up for by his catch radius and size. If Ross didn't have an injury history I think too teams would take him more seriously.

 Steve did seem to be sold on Davis though, as does our FO. Even Davis said he wanted to be here indirectly by saying how awesome it was visiting the castle. I really hope it pans out.