Mock Drafts from the Media

[Wildabeast88]

On January 4, 2017 at 4:54 PM, usmccharles said:

If Oz does go Cook while we have such  big needs elsewhere, prepare for another season of some inconsistent passrush or secondary issues.  But drafting a position we are already good at while ignoring quality (in theory) at another position is just asking for more issues of the same problems.  I think the FO is sold with West and Dixon as our future.  Id be willing to bet money if cook is on the board we don't take him.

If Oz goes Cook we better get a C and G and a new OC otherwise it is a pointless pick which still leaves us needing pass rush and a CB 

[Wildabeast88]

On January 4, 2017 at 9:22 PM, Darhk_Raven said:

Walter Football has us going

RD1: Malik McDowell, DE/DT, Michigan State

RD2: Christian McCaffrey, RB/WR, Stanford

RD3: Amara Darboh, WR, Michigan 

RD4: Hasson Reddick, DE/OLB, Temple 

This happens and Tim Williams is still on the board in the second after we pick and Carl Lawson is on the board after our third pick. Thoughts?

 

Someone who must not watch us or see our needs. If anyone does a mock where Tim Williams is on the board and does not take Tim Williams is kidding themselves. Lawson is good but his injury history is to much for me

[Wildabeast88]

On January 6, 2017 at 10:20 AM, JoeyFlex5 said:

isnt he a only 5'10"? 

i can see that though, supreme athlete who gets caught up at times. im not sure im comfortable taking an athletic project db at 16 over a squeaky clean corner with ideal size and fluidity like sidney jjones.

I would agree I like Jackson but Jones is more sound.

[gtalk12]

Oz isn't going Cook. I do not think Cook is the 16th best player in the draft.

[rossihunter2]

44 minutes ago, gtalk12 said:

Oz isn't going Cook. I do not think Cook is the 16th best player in the draft.

i also think that the fact that there are so many top talents that they might all fall down unless a team falls in love with a specific one because they know that the difference between the top 3-4 guys isnt so big so it seems less urgent - that seems counterintuitive to the way other position groups work but rb isnt like other position groups

[JoeyFlex5]

3 hours ago, gtalk12 said:

Oz isn't going Cook. I do not think Cook is the 16th best player in the draft.

ehh. cook is probably at least the 10th best player in the draft, hes a special talent. 

far from the 16th most valuable player though.

[usmccharles]

1 hour ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

ehh. cook is probably at least the 10th best player in the draft, hes a special talent. 

far from the 16th most valuable player though.

any chance Mike Williams falls? I could see Titans taking him

[hn68wb4]

13 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

any chance Mike Williams falls? I could see Titans taking him

I don't think there's any chance, even if he makes it past the Titans the Eagles are two picks ahead of us and they're also desperate for a WR after Agholor busted so bad and Matthews can't stay healthy

[usmccharles]

29 minutes ago, hn68wb4 said:

I don't think there's any chance, even if he makes it past the Titans the Eagles are two picks ahead of us and they're also desperate for a WR after Agholor busted so bad and Matthews can't stay healthy

Yea thats what i thought, i havent even looked at the draft order yet

[rossihunter2]

36 minutes ago, hn68wb4 said:

I don't think there's any chance, even if he makes it past the Titans the Eagles are two picks ahead of us and they're also desperate for a WR after Agholor busted so bad and Matthews can't stay healthy

yeah williams would be value for both of these teams and would fill an extreme need - they might have had the two worst receiving corps in the nfl this year

[JoeyFlex5]

1 hour ago, usmccharles said:

any chance Mike Williams falls? I could see Titans taking him

i dont see how. hes the clear cut top receiver in this class and i dont think anyone else is even close, and as others have said the titans and eagles desperately need wr help and hes just too much of a prototype #1 receiver. 

could also see the chargers or bills taking a guy like mike williams. they might see him as a great value. 

 

[YorkCountyRaven]

We NEED to draft a CB. I know pass rush is a problem and Cook is tempting but we have Dixon who I have faith is our future. And please give Matt Judon time. If Kaufusi can come back and not have a injury hangover he can also add as well. We know Suggs and Doom will prob get the start. But we really have a question mark at #2 CB we don't have a legitimate #2. Tavon's a great nickel. The Steelers and Pats have like 9million threats catching the ball someone needs to cover them.

I see Takk McKinley like everywhere for us which I wouldn't hate but... PLEASE OZZIE TAKE JONES or JACKSON or KING hell take tredavious white for all I care... I hope Lattimore declares for the draft so he will be on the board as well. Tim Williams in the 2nd.

I also saw an article saying Malik Hooker. Who is an amazing player but not sure how he would help.

If we did go offense please go Corey Davis or something like that. I honestly don't think we have a true #1 receiver.

[JoeyFlex5]

35 minutes ago, YorkCountyRaven said:

We NEED to draft a CB. I know pass rush is a problem and Cook is tempting but we have Dixon who I have faith is our future. And please give Matt Judon time. If Kaufusi can come back and not have a injury hangover he can also add as well. We know Suggs and Doom will prob get the start. But we really have a question mark at #2 CB we don't have a legitimate #2. Tavon's a great nickel. The Steelers and Pats have like 9million threats catching the ball someone needs to cover them.

I see Takk McKinley like everywhere for us which I wouldn't hate but... PLEASE OZZIE TAKE JONES or JACKSON or KING hell take tredavious white for all I care... I hope Lattimore declares for the draft so he will be on the board as well. Tim Williams in the 2nd.

I also saw an article saying Malik Hooker. Who is an amazing player but not sure how he would help.

If we did go offense please go Corey Davis or something like that. I honestly don't think we have a true #1 receiver.

malik hooker would help because he is literally as close as a prospect can get to being projected as the next ed reed. 

after declaring, malik hooker is now a top 3 player in this class, and is the best looking true free safety prospect maybe ever(mind you, ed reed didnt look like the greatest safety to ever play when he was a prospect). he is a prototype single high, wide roaming free safety. you tell this guy to go out there and get the ball in your hands and you trust him to do it. QBs will not even consider throwing the ball 20+ yards downfield 99% of the time because if you put some hangtime on it he will pick it off. QBs have to watch him more than they watch their own receivers. He is a threat to make a huge play on every level of the field, in the run and passing game. 

we have zero chance of landing malik hooker as it stands right now, but make no mistake, if he even sniffs a double digit draft slot ozzie is gonna be blowing up phones to trade up. garrett, allen, and hooker are 3 of the most cant miss prospects ive seen in a long time, and safety is definitely still a need, our tandem isnt getting younger and webb carries a hefty cap number, plus weddle is much better as a SS and hooker would allow him to play there.

[RaineV1]

8 hours ago, YorkCountyRaven said:

We NEED to draft a CB. I know pass rush is a problem and Cook is tempting but we have Dixon who I have faith is our future. And please give Matt Judon time. If Kaufusi can come back and not have a injury hangover he can also add as well. We know Suggs and Doom will prob get the start. But we really have a question mark at #2 CB we don't have a legitimate #2. Tavon's a great nickel. The Steelers and Pats have like 9million threats catching the ball someone needs to cover them.

I see Takk McKinley like everywhere for us which I wouldn't hate but... PLEASE OZZIE TAKE JONES or JACKSON or KING hell take tredavious white for all I care... I hope Lattimore declares for the draft so he will be on the board as well. Tim Williams in the 2nd.

I also saw an article saying Malik Hooker. Who is an amazing player but not sure how he would help.

If we did go offense please go Corey Davis or something like that. I honestly don't think we have a true #1 receiver.

Hooker allows the rest of the defense to be far more aggressive since he'll be able to clean up their mistakes. If he was on the team, the Ravens likely beat the Pats and Steelers since he wouldn't let those big plays at the end happen. Not to mention his knack for returning INTs for big gains (his return ability is on par with Reed's). He's a guy you take regardless of need, because he is just that good.

[gtalk12]

12 hours ago, YorkCountyRaven said:

We NEED to draft a CB. I know pass rush is a problem and Cook is tempting but we have Dixon who I have faith is our future. And please give Matt Judon time. If Kaufusi can come back and not have a injury hangover he can also add as well. We know Suggs and Doom will prob get the start. But we really have a question mark at #2 CB we don't have a legitimate #2. Tavon's a great nickel. The Steelers and Pats have like 9million threats catching the ball someone needs to cover them.

I see Takk McKinley like everywhere for us which I wouldn't hate but... PLEASE OZZIE TAKE JONES or JACKSON or KING hell take tredavious white for all I care... I hope Lattimore declares for the draft so he will be on the board as well. Tim Williams in the 2nd.

I also saw an article saying Malik Hooker. Who is an amazing player but not sure how he would help.

If we did go offense please go Corey Davis or something like that. I honestly don't think we have a true #1 receiver.

A good CB or a good DE/OLB fixes the same issue. One gives the D-line more time to work and the other gives the QB less time to throw. I wouldn't mind either as long as it's the best player available. Hey if its a S then grab him even if we don't need him.

[ravensnation5220]

Voch Lombardi did a mock draft yesterday done by fans and we picked Takk McKinley. Voch is someone who is a big believer in Takk and thinks he can be something great

[808Blackbirds]

James Conner is still my favorite running back . i rather OZ get a pass rusher and corner is the first 2 rounds then fall back on Conner in the later rounds .

Edited January 9 by 808Blackbirds

[RavensDieHard21]

7 hours ago, ravensnation5220 said:

Voch Lombardi did a mock draft yesterday done by fans and we picked Takk McKinley. Voch is someone who is a big believer in Takk and thinks he can be something great

If we traded back or up from the second then no doubt if take him. But there is so much other talent that could be there at 16, especially with players that have consistency. It's hard to pick a player early that realistically only had one good year of production, especially being in the Pac 12

[YorkCountyRaven]

On ‎1‎/‎8‎/‎2017 at 2:33 PM, gtalk12 said:

A good CB or a good DE/OLB fixes the same issue. One gives the D-line more time to work and the other gives the QB less time to throw. I wouldn't mind either as long as it's the best player available. Hey if its a S then grab him even if we don't need him.

I Know, but the difference is at Corner we have Jimmy who is top 10 CB in the league but very injury prone. And our number 2 Is actually built perfectly to be a number 3. Shareece gets picked on too much. Powers should be our dime. Which means we NEED stability at the #2 corner or we are going to continue this revolving door of defensive backs.

Pass rush is an issue, without a doubt. BUT we have a very strong front 7. Our issue is age. There is still hope with Judon, Kaufusi is coming back and hopefully Correa realizes he is in the NFL next year.

 

Idk just my opinion but Corner is absolutely necessary in the first round. As the drop off from our 1st pick to 2nd pick with Corners will be pivotal. There's going to be decent pass rushers throughout this draft.

Edited January 10 by YorkCountyRaven

[rossihunter2]

17 minutes ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

If we traded back or up from the second then no doubt if take him. But there is so much other talent that could be there at 16, especially with players that have consistency. It's hard to pick a player early that realistically only had one good year of production, especially being in the Pac 12

i watched it this evening - it was a "fan" pick by someone on the interactive draft - he didnt really know what to do with the pick so gave it to a fan who got carried away - quincy wilson or one of the other corners probably should have been the pick there

[ravensnation5220]

8 hours ago, rossihunter2 said:

i watched it this evening - it was a "fan" pick by someone on the interactive draft - he didnt really know what to do with the pick so gave it to a fan who got carried away - quincy wilson or one of the other corners probably should have been the pick there

He let the fans pick all the picks. That was the purpose

[rossihunter2]

1 hour ago, ravensnation5220 said:

He let the fans pick all the picks. That was the purpose

it was mostly majority rules though on what he would do each time - but in the ravens instance he gave the pick to one specific ravens fan

[ravensnation5220]

8 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

it was mostly majority rules though on what he would do each time - but in the ravens instance he gave the pick to one specific ravens fan

Ya I noticed that lol. If it were up to the fans it looked like majority said Wilson or peppers

[rossihunter2]

11 minutes ago, ravensnation5220 said:

Ya I noticed that lol. If it were up to the fans it looked like majority said Wilson or peppers

which would have been much better picks

[leziRav]

On 1/8/2017 at 1:37 AM, JoeyFlex5 said:

malik hooker would help because he is literally as close as a prospect can get to being projected as the next ed reed. 

after declaring, malik hooker is now a top 3 player in this class, and is the best looking true free safety prospect maybe ever(mind you, ed reed didnt look like the greatest safety to ever play when he was a prospect). he is a prototype single high, wide roaming free safety. you tell this guy to go out there and get the ball in your hands and you trust him to do it. QBs will not even consider throwing the ball 20+ yards downfield 99% of the time because if you put some hangtime on it he will pick it off. QBs have to watch him more than they watch their own receivers. He is a threat to make a huge play on every level of the field, in the run and passing game. 

we have zero chance of landing malik hooker as it stands right now, but make no mistake, if he even sniffs a double digit draft slot ozzie is gonna be blowing up phones to trade up. garrett, allen, and hooker are 3 of the most cant miss prospects ive seen in a long time, and safety is definitely still a need, our tandem isnt getting younger and webb carries a hefty cap number, plus weddle is much better as a SS and hooker would allow him to play there.

I think Jamal Adams is a good safety too. Also Peppers is not bad. He is a game changer. I see Pepper like Ramsey. He can play corner or safety/ LB. The kid is talented. I m thinking 3 QBs, 2 RBs, 2 WRs will go ahead of us. Also Garret, J.Allen, D.Bernett,  Humphrey, Reuben Foster will be gone in top 15. So that will make one of them available for us. I really hope Hooker falls out top 10 and Ozzie make a move for him. I think we need more of a ball hawk safety than corner. I can't remember who but someone said a QB can avoid a CB but he cannot avoid a safety. Since Ed Reed our secondary has not been good. Hooker with Weddle as safety will be nice. A lot of things will change by April, Combine, Pro days and secrets about the players will come out. Remember Tunsil was best player in draft for a while then he dropped out of top 15 i think. So I hope we get lucky this yeat.

[Drew P]

Adoree has skills but he's another runt

[Dubs]

14 minutes ago, leziRav said:

I think Jamal Adams is a good safety too. Also Peppers is not bad. He is a game changer. I see Pepper like Ramsey. He can play corner or safety/ LB. The kid is talented. I m thinking 3 QBs, 2 RBs, 2 WRs will go ahead of us. Also Garret, J.Allen, D.Bernett,  Humphrey, Reuben Foster will be gone in top 15. So that will make one of them available for us. I really hope Hooker falls out top 10 and Ozzie make a move for him. I think we need more of a ball hawk safety than corner. I can't remember who but someone said a QB can avoid a CB but he cannot avoid a safety. Since Ed Reed our secondary has not been good. Hooker with Weddle as safety will be nice. A lot of things will change by April, Combine, Pro days and secrets about the players will come out. Remember Tunsil was best player in draft for a while then he dropped out of top 15 i think. So I hope we get lucky this yeat.

Pretty sure that was Brian Billick. I agree completely with the sentiment, A safety impacts every play and can be in on every play. I think we all know that from our best guys like Ed Reed and Weddle as well as our worst like when we watched Elam miss numerous tackles and plays. I think Safety is the hardest transition for any defensive player from college to the pros as so much is asked from them from lining up and coordinating the secondary to covering freaky tall and athletic TEs and quick twitch slot guys, and even be willing to stop the run. Tough position and a high football IQ is a must. My best case scenario in this draft is that we get Adams or Hooker, I think they are the only ones I would be willing to trade up for too.

[rmw10]

3 minutes ago, Dubs said:

Pretty sure that was Brian Billick. I agree completely with the sentiment, A safety impacts every play and can be in on every play. I think we all know that from our best guys like Ed Reed and Weddle as well as our worst like when we watched Elam miss numerous tackles and plays. I think Safety is the hardest transition for any defensive player from college to the pros as so much is asked from them from lining up and coordinating the secondary to covering freaky tall and athletic TEs and quick twitch slot guys, and even be willing to stop the run. Tough position and a high football IQ is a must. My best case scenario in this draft is that we get Adams or Hooker, I think they are the only ones I would be willing to trade up for too.

Agreed.  It's a tough transition and you need to have so many unteachable traits in addition to the responsibilities they have to learn, at least in order to be great.  That's what made Reed so good.  He had the natural instincts and range that you can't teach, but he also put in the work to become a smart football player... except for laterals that is.

That's what I see in Hooker.  I'm not sure anyone will ever be Ed Reed, but he's the closest I've seen in a very long time.  I like Adams a bunch as well but I like him more in the box type of role.  That's not to say he can't play deep, but I don't necessarily think he's the same type of player as Hooker.  I look at Adams more as an Eric Berry or Eric Weddle type, which obviously is not a bad thing at all.

[GrimCoconut]

11 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

Agreed.  It's a tough transition and you need to have so many unteachable traits in addition to the responsibilities they have to learn, at least in order to be great.  That's what made Reed so good.  He had the natural instincts and range that you can't teach, but he also put in the work to become a smart football player... except for laterals that is.

That's what I see in Hooker.  I'm not sure anyone will ever be Ed Reed, but he's the closest I've seen in a very long time.  I like Adams a bunch as well but I like him more in the box type of role.  That's not to say he can't play deep, but I don't necessarily think he's the same type of player as Hooker.  I look at Adams more as an Eric Berry or Eric Weddle type, which obviously is not a bad thing at all.

It's still early but Hooker is one of the few prospects I'd take over a highly ranked OLB or CB.

[rmw10]

Just now, GrimCoconut said:

It's still early but Hooker is one of the few prospects I'd take over a highly ranked OLB or CB.

Yep.  Hooker looks special to me.  It's not often you see a guy with that type of ability in only his 1st year as a starter.  He still has plenty to work on, but so many of the intangibles are already there.