Mock Drafts from the Media

[rossihunter2]

7 minutes ago, purpletide said:

I hope people take Ross early for his speed though, he's probably the biggest chance to be a bust (when compared to Williams or Davis). No way Williams gets to us, but I feel like the combine could help get us Davis.

Even if he's not a bust I'd still prefer the others because of the fit with the Ravens

[purpletide]

Just now, rossihunter2 said:

Even if he's not a bust I'd still prefer the others because of the fit with the Ravens

If he is a bust though I'd rather him be someone else's bust than ours. If he's the only one out of the three left on the board I don't know how I feel about taking him or taking someone else and waiting to pick up someone that fits with us more. I don't have anything against him, but it breaks down to finding a better fit then taking the opportunity to grab BPA (besides Ross).

[SepticeyePoe]

22 minutes ago, purpletide said:

If he is a bust though I'd rather him be someone else's bust than ours. If he's the only one out of the three left on the board I don't know how I feel about taking him or taking someone else and waiting to pick up someone that fits with us more. I don't have anything against him, but it breaks down to finding a better fit then taking the opportunity to grab BPA (besides Ross).

I think we would take someone else if the top two wrs are taken.

[purpletide]

8 minutes ago, SepticeyePoe said:

I think we would take someone else if the top two wrs are taken.

That's what I think. Ross isn't a bad player but as I said I don't think he fits us and we could just go BPA or fill another, more important hole at 16.

[DomMcRaven]

2 hours ago, ravensnation5220 said:

Williams???? You already mentioned maxx lol did you mean Gilmore? 

Either way id like to hope so but it seems they can put it all together. Injuries have been a problem but they are still young. It's a prove it year for all 3

Wow. I'll hold this L for my mistake lol.

I actually meany by Boyle, but Gilmore could work just as well.

[rossihunter2]

2 hours ago, purpletide said:

If he is a bust though I'd rather him be someone else's bust than ours. If he's the only one out of the three left on the board I don't know how I feel about taking him or taking someone else and waiting to pick up someone that fits with us more. I don't have anything against him, but it breaks down to finding a better fit then taking the opportunity to grab BPA (besides Ross).

lol Im thinking pretty much the same thing - I'm just not sure he fits here

[ravensnation5220]

1 hour ago, DomMcRaven said:

Wow. I'll hold this L for my mistake lol.

I actually meany by Boyle, but Gilmore could work just as well.

Lol it's all good. I know what you meant. Either way there's a lot of potential with this group. But that's all it is at this point is potential. 

Boyle I could see become sort of a full back. Maybe not a true full back but some kind of role like that

[ravensnation5220]

 

He's not the most articulate and isn't a great speaker by any means but one thing I really like from this was his honesty. He seems to own up for his troubled past (which is just smoking weed). He also seems humble and knows what he has to do to succeed in the NFL. Either that or he's a really good BSer 

As for not answering the question "how many drug tests have you failed" that doesn't bother me because teams know that answer and that's not something he should let the media know for obvious reasons

[purpletide]

5 minutes ago, ravensnation5220 said:

 

He's not the most articulate and isn't a great speaker by any means but one thing I really like from this was his honesty. He seems to own up for his troubled past (which is just smoking weed). He also seems humble and knows what he has to do to succeed in the NFL. Either that or he's a really good BSer 

As for not answering the question "how many drug tests have you failed" that doesn't bother me because teams know that answer and that's not something he should let the media know for obvious reasons

Plus I know I also joked about it but I figure I'll beat everyone to the punch. It was his friend that sold out Mr. Chicken not Tim himself. But besides that I think he could possibly be a Raven, that's of course relying on the board and having Barnett not slide.

[ravensnation5220]

Just now, purpletide said:

Plus I know I also joked about it but I figure I'll beat everyone to the punch. It was his friend that sold out Mr. Chicken not Tim himself. But besides that I think he could possibly be a Raven, that's of course relying on the board and having Barnett not slide.

Ya I re-read the police report and realized that myself not too long ago.

His championship post game interview when they lost to Clemson was very humble and respectful as well. It's a good listen as long as you can ignore that thing stuck in his beard lol

[rossihunter2]

1 hour ago, purpletide said:

Plus I know I also joked about it but I figure I'll beat everyone to the punch. It was his friend that sold out Mr. Chicken not Tim himself. But besides that I think he could possibly be a Raven, that's of course relying on the board and having Barnett not slide.

for me it was never the incident itself that bothered me so much as the reports off the back of it that he had recently failed multiple drugs tests - when people started questioning his film i realised that the incident affected people's perceptions of him way too much and i kind of fell for that for a couple of weeks before i started slowly moving him right back up my board again - he doesnt have injury issues, his drug issues will be weedled out in the interview process and in the drug testing process and he has show he is a humble character - as long as teams dont think availability is going to be an issue or that these character concerns are low iq problems rather than silly mistakes then they will have no reservations taking him high

[RavensDieHard21]

I mean I know we are all hopeful that Barnett, Davis, Williams or Foster slide down to us, but being realistic, they might be all be gone along with Fournette, Hooker, Allen, Adams, Soloman Thomas, etc. 

We then have a batch of questionable players. Frankly, I don't know who I would choose. If no one is looking to come up. Who is the pick at 16? Can Robinson? TJ Watt? Tim Williams? Marlon Humphrey? Charles Harris? 

I think Tim Williams is starting to rise right back up there. He seems mature and outside of a mediocre championship game, he has a wicked burst off the line and an arsenal of rush moves.  

[purpletide]

9 minutes ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

I mean I know we are all hopeful that Barnett, Davis, Williams or Foster slide down to us, but being realistic, they might be all be gone along with Fournette, Hooker, Allen, Adams, Soloman Thomas, etc. 

We then have a batch of questionable players. Frankly, I don't know who I would choose. If no one is looking to come up. Who is the pick at 16? Can Robinson? TJ Watt? Tim Williams? Marlon Humphrey? Charles Harris? 

I think Tim Williams is starting to rise right back up there. He seems mature and outside of a mediocre championship game, he has a wicked burst off the line and an arsenal of rush moves.  

I think it's Tim if we don't get any sliders if I'm honest, but I don't count any others out and we could trade back. I like TJ but I'm not too sure he's our guy at 16, and I haven't seen enough of Harris to say the same but people don't seem to see him as better than Tim.

[rossihunter2]

27 minutes ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

I mean I know we are all hopeful that Barnett, Davis, Williams or Foster slide down to us, but being realistic, they might be all be gone along with Fournette, Hooker, Allen, Adams, Soloman Thomas, etc. 

We then have a batch of questionable players. Frankly, I don't know who I would choose. If no one is looking to come up. Who is the pick at 16? Can Robinson? TJ Watt? Tim Williams? Marlon Humphrey? Charles Harris? 

I think Tim Williams is starting to rise right back up there. He seems mature and outside of a mediocre championship game, he has a wicked burst off the line and an arsenal of rush moves.  

I'm not saying this because they are all bama guys but I reckon it's Williams, Robinson or Humphrey - I'd want Williams but I could see the other two as well as reasonable picks - I'm not sold on Humphrey but I could probably be convinced if we took him - I'd be pretty stoked about either Robinson or Williams though

[rossihunter2]

17 minutes ago, purpletide said:

I think it's Tim if we don't get any sliders if I'm honest, but I don't count any others out and we could trade back. I like TJ but I'm not too sure he's our guy at 16, and I haven't seen enough of Harris to say the same but people don't seem to see him as better than Tim.

Yeah it's starting to get to the point where it gets a little messy predicting: do you think in terms of who you'd want or who you think the Ravens will actually pick?

Edited March 17 by rossihunter2

[Boddiebroadus]

I like Harris over Williams 

[trevorsteadman]

7 hours ago, Boddiebroadus said:

I like Harris over Williams 

I am one of the few that still like Harris over most DEs in this draft. I am warming up to Barnett but I am still afraid of his lack of athletic talent hindering his growth at the next level. Harris has that burst and speed that Dumervil had on this defense that I think would compliment Suggs well. 

[purpletide]

10 hours ago, rossihunter2 said:

I'm not saying this because they are all bama guys but I reckon it's Williams, Robinson or Humphrey - I'd want Williams but I could see the other two as well as reasonable picks - I'm not sold on Humphrey but I could probably be convinced if we took him - I'd be pretty stoked about either Robinson or Williams though

Yeah I'm from Bama so I'd like to see them all wearing purple and black. I do legitimately see it being any of the three unless a good player slides or we trade back, most likely Tim.

[rossihunter2]

Just now, purpletide said:

Yeah I'm from Bama so I'd like to see them all wearing purple and black. I do legitimately see it being any of the three unless a good player slides or we trade back, most likely Tim.

what makes me feel better about them all being bama guys is that i independently ended up with them all being around each other - humphrey's down further but can see that the ravens might have him higher - but i have williams 11th and robinson 12th on my board with humphrey 21st

[purpletide]

1 minute ago, rossihunter2 said:

what makes me feel better about them all being bama guys is that i independently ended up with them all being around each other - humphrey's down further but can see that the ravens might have him higher - but i have williams 11th and robinson 12th on my board with humphrey 21st

Plus a possible slider for us is Foster. But I'll stop making this about college preference, they're just the safe picks on our board

[rossihunter2]

6 hours ago, purpletide said:

Plus a possible slider for us is Foster. But I'll stop making this about college preference, they're just the safe picks on our board

there's a real possibility that 5 (or even 6 with oj howard) bama guys could go top 15/16 and 3 ohio state guys - its unlikely but nearly half of the first 20 picks could be from just 2 schools

[ravensnation5220]

Anyone notice Jonathan Allen seems to be falling down draft boards? Or at least mock drafts out there. He's been pretty quiet as of late. Not sure there's still a chance he falls to us though......is there?

[Italian Raven]

On 13/03/2017 at 3:26 PM, Edgar said:

Pocic early concerns me. I can't tape where he actually moves people without benefit of it being a combo block.

In fact, the opposite is true...he GETS pushed and is completely overpowered. I don't see him as an upgrade at center.

Same opinion. I saw he was considered one of the best centers and watched a couple of tapes. I came away very unimpressed. It's not only the center of gravity due to his height effecting the lack of leverage/push, he also lacks functional strenght and punch speed. I don't seem him worth anything better than a late 3rd. It's very very hard to evaluate centers/guards and predict their stock anyway; few years back I loved Dismukes and AJ Cann and well.. They really didn't perform like the late first round grade I had put on them 

[purpletide]

8 hours ago, ravensnation5220 said:

Anyone notice Jonathan Allen seems to be falling down draft boards? Or at least mock drafts out there. He's been pretty quiet as of late. Not sure there's still a chance he falls to us though......is there?

I think the reason he's been dropping is the shoulder thing, I still don't think there's any chance that makes him fall to us. If he makes it out of the top 10 I'd be very surprised

[RavensDieHard21]

9 hours ago, ravensnation5220 said:

Anyone notice Jonathan Allen seems to be falling down draft boards? Or at least mock drafts out there. He's been pretty quiet as of late. Not sure there's still a chance he falls to us though......is there?

He has had medical issues in the past with arthritis or something. Doesn't seem anything major. He didn't blow up the combine either, hence why mocks have him slipping as far as Buffalo. To be honest, the farthest I think he would fall would be Carolina and as early as San Fran

[RavensDieHard21]

3 hours ago, Italian Raven said:

Same opinion. I saw he was considered one of the best centers and watched a couple of tapes. I came away very unimpressed. It's not only the center of gravity due to his height effecting the lack of leverage/push, he also lacks functional strenght and punch speed. I don't seem him worth anything better than a late 3rd. It's very very hard to evaluate centers/guards and predict their stock anyway; few years back I loved Dismukes and AJ Cann and well.. They really didn't perform like the late first round grade I had put on them 

Best center is going to be Elflein. He would be a great move in the second. Underrated centers are Kyle Fuller from Baylor and Jay Guillermo from Clemson. I like Guillermo as a fourth round pick. He handled business in the playoffs and handled the vaunted Alabama front without any concerns. He could be a nice move 

[Italian Raven]

2 hours ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

Best center is going to be Elflein. He would be a great move in the second. Underrated centers are Kyle Fuller from Baylor and Jay Guillermo from Clemson. I like Guillermo as a fourth round pick. He handled business in the playoffs and handled the vaunted Alabama front without any concerns. He could be a nice move 

I didn't look enough O linemen tapes to rank them so I'll mainly rely on reports and on a few sites' opinions until we make our pick. Eflein looked very solid all around and has even been used as a pulling lineman on outside runs as well and is pretty agile reaching the second level. So I'd guess he'll barely get to our 2nd. I just don't know if even the best centers are as valuable as that though as many of them around the league are former day 3 picks. 

I Love Fuller. Looked amazing at the SeB. I don't think he'll get to our 4th rounder. I definitely have to do my homework on Garcia (who had a great SeB as well) and Gulliermo. This year I've been spending most of my time on edge defenders and only later on watching CBs and wideouts, so I barely considered that side of the trenches. 

[BmoreBird22]

4 hours ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

Best center is going to be Elflein. He would be a great move in the second. Underrated centers are Kyle Fuller from Baylor and Jay Guillermo from Clemson. I like Guillermo as a fourth round pick. He handled business in the playoffs and handled the vaunted Alabama front without any concerns. He could be a nice move 

I think Guillermo is going undrafted and I won't be shocked if the Ravens don't even sniff him.

[RavensDieHard21]

20 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I think Guillermo is going undrafted and I won't be shocked if the Ravens don't even sniff him.

Why is that 

[BmoreBird22]

2 hours ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

Why is that 

I watch a lot of Clemson, but I'm no offensive line specialist.

He's big, but not overly strong, and he's not very agile. He doesn't move well in space and quicker tackles will take advantage of his plodding feet. 

I think he's got an outside chance to be a backup, but not someone I'd want starting more than here or there as needed.