Mock Drafts from the Media

[Tyler]

21 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

So you want to make a position we are already good at, be more crowded.  The issue was not committing to the run, but the execution of the backs.  So drafting a guy to crowd that backfield even more while we have a good two headed monster and miss out on quality players at positions we actually need is a mistake the front office will not make and I am thankful for that.  That being said ive been a huge advocate for find another Ray Rice, but not at #16 overall when we clearly need CB and a pass rusher.  And you speak of Cook having potential, Dixon has that same potential....neither one of them have done it, but they can

West is also an unrestricted free agent. I'm not advocating for Dalvin Cook to be the pick. I would much rather have Mike or Tim Williams, as I feel they fill a much bigger need, but I wouldn't be upset at all with Dalvin Cook in a Ravens uniform. I think Dixon has potential, but it doesn't match Cook's. 

[zuilyas]

2 minutes ago, Tyler said:

West is also an unrestricted free agent. I'm not advocating for Dalvin Cook to be the pick. I would much rather have Mike or Tim Williams, as I feel they fill a much bigger need, but I wouldn't be upset at all with Dalvin Cook in a Ravens uniform. I think Dixon has potential, but it doesn't match Cook's. 

Same. He's not the guy I would necessarily target, but if he were available at 16, the top CB/pass rushers are off the board, and we can't trade up/down, I wouldn't be adverse to the idea of selecting him. Would rather take him than reach for a position of need  

[usmccharles]

6 minutes ago, zuilyas said:

You're right in that our biggest needs are at CB and pass rusher, but Ozzie subscribes to the BPA philosophy, so if Cook were available at pick 16, I do think it's something he might entertain. He's taken backs when we've had a crowded backfield before, albeit not in the 1st round, but guys like Cook and Fournette don't come around very often. Also, idk if any of the backs on the roster now are as explosive or as athletic as Cook are. Maybe I'm wrong but just my 2 cents

If Oz does go Cook while we have such  big needs elsewhere, prepare for another season of some inconsistent passrush or secondary issues.  But drafting a position we are already good at while ignoring quality (in theory) at another position is just asking for more issues of the same problems.  I think the FO is sold with West and Dixon as our future.  Id be willing to bet money if cook is on the board we don't take him.

[zuilyas]

26 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

If Oz does go Cook while we have such  big needs elsewhere, prepare for another season of some inconsistent passrush or secondary issues.  But drafting a position we are already good at while ignoring quality (in theory) at another position is just asking for more issues of the same problems.  I think the FO is sold with West and Dixon as our future.  Id be willing to bet money if cook is on the board we don't take him.

Yeah, that's how I feel as well. If he were still on the board, I don't think the FO would do it because of West and Dixon and because of how badly we need younger pass rushers and someone opposite Smith. I just think it would be interesting to think about. 

[rossihunter2]

2 hours ago, zuilyas said:

Same. He's not the guy I would necessarily target, but if he were available at 16, the top CB/pass rushers are off the board, and we can't trade up/down, I wouldn't be adverse to the idea of selecting him. Would rather take him than reach for a position of need  

ive been analysing the top pass rushers etc. and my initial impressions are that this is an incredibly impressive pass rushing class - id be surprised if all 4 of the top top guys are gone in the first 15 picks - and i think the value for some of that playmaking ability is much higher than a rb - i just think that if you're taking an rb in the first round they had better be like zeke or gurley (if fisher hadn't drained his soul away) - but again these are just my initial impressions and i havent looked into any of the other position groups yet

[Darhk_Raven]

Walter Football has us going

RD1: Malik McDowell, DE/DT, Michigan State

RD2: Christian McCaffrey, RB/WR, Stanford

RD3: Amara Darboh, WR, Michigan 

RD4: Hasson Reddick, DE/OLB, Temple 

This happens and Tim Williams is still on the board in the second after we pick and Carl Lawson is on the board after our third pick. Thoughts?

 

Edited January 5 by Darhk_Raven

[allblackraven]

43 minutes ago, Darhk_Raven said:

Walter Football has us going

RD1: Malik McDowell, DE/DT, Michigan State

RD2: Christian McCaffrey, RB/WR, Stanford

RD3: Amara Darboh, WR, Michigan 

RD4: Hasson Reddick, DE/OLB, Temple 

This happens and Tim Williams is still on the board in the second after we pick and Carl Lawson is on the board after our third pick. Thoughts?

 

That would be idiotic draft

[Darhk_Raven]

8 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

That would be idiotic draft

I thought the same thing, just wanted to see if anyone else agreed 

[rossihunter2]

1 hour ago, Darhk_Raven said:

Walter Football has us going

RD1: Malik McDowell, DE/DT, Michigan State

RD2: Christian McCaffrey, RB/WR, Stanford

RD3: Amara Darboh, WR, Michigan 

RD4: Hasson Reddick, DE/OLB, Temple 

This happens and Tim Williams is still on the board in the second after we pick and Carl Lawson is on the board after our third pick. Thoughts?

 

Given just those two players you mentioned it's a crazy draft - normally I forgive these mocks for just drafting for need off their big boards but come on that's just ridiculous - they've misidentified both bpa and need - I don't see the logic

[Darhk_Raven]

6 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

Given just those two players you mentioned it's a crazy draft - normally I forgive these mocks for just drafting for need off their big boards but come on that's just ridiculous - they've misidentified both bpa and need - I don't see the logic

In the third round Harold Landry, Carl Lawson, and Ryan Anderson are all still available. 

[rossihunter2]

15 minutes ago, Darhk_Raven said:

In the third round Harold Landry, Carl Lawson, and Ryan Anderson are all still available. 

Oh man if they're available at our pick in round 3, I don't care if we already picked two pass rushers already, let's take a third one

[BmoreBird22]

1 hour ago, Darhk_Raven said:

Walter Football has us going

RD1: Malik McDowell, DE/DT, Michigan State

RD2: Christian McCaffrey, RB/WR, Stanford

RD3: Amara Darboh, WR, Michigan 

RD4: Hasson Reddick, DE/OLB, Temple 

This happens and Tim Williams is still on the board in the second after we pick and Carl Lawson is on the board after our third pick. Thoughts?

 

I think that's incredibly awful.

[Darhk_Raven]

1 minute ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I think that's incredibly awful.

I usually look forward to their mock drafts, but this one left a sour taste.

[rossihunter2]

13 minutes ago, Darhk_Raven said:

I usually look forward to their mock drafts, but this one left a sour taste.

Well I guess all we can say when we see it is thank god Ozzie and Eric run our draft and not whoever made those picks

[Darhk_Raven]

9 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

Well I guess all we can say when we see it is thank god Ozzie and Eric run our draft and not whoever made those picks

I'm pretty sure our draft will look different when the time comes.

[VermontRaven]

15 hours ago, Darhk_Raven said:

Walter Football has us going

RD1: Malik McDowell, DE/DT, Michigan State

RD2: Christian McCaffrey, RB/WR, Stanford

RD3: Amara Darboh, WR, Michigan 

RD4: Hasson Reddick, DE/OLB, Temple 

This happens and Tim Williams is still on the board in the second after we pick and Carl Lawson is on the board after our third pick. Thoughts?

 

I"ll be honest...I haven't even began to analyze who's out there and who might get drafted where, etc.  But--No corners or safeties in the first 4 rounds?  In the first 4 rounds, my hope is for an impact pass rusher, an impact corner, and 2-3 other potential players (using BPA so not specific positions--although I could name a few positions I would prefer--oline, safety, another CB or pass rusher, etc)  Wouldn't mind seeing WR either, but with our track record of WRs, I think I would rather see us bring in a FA or 2 there (although wouldn't mind taking a shot a WR in rounds 4-6 though)

Edited January 5 by VermontRaven
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[JoeyFlex5]

came here specifically to address walterfootball. 

that draft would leave me feeling so incredibly empty. i dont believe mcdowell changes much on our defense, we upgrade a strength and leave our weak parts weak. if mcaffrey is there mid 2nd, id be hard pressed to find a better value, id take him over most prospects that are likely available there, no problem there and hopefully he can provide us a nice boost in the screen/short passing game. darboh in the third though would have me so freaking livid id call for ozzies head for the first time ever.

[JoeyFlex5]

Charlie Campbell is REALLY committed to the ravens taking adoree Jackson in the first. He's had it for about a month straight. 

I like adoree Jackson but I'd be really mad with him at 16. And Charlie has nailed our picks recently. He had us taking perriman for months in 2015, had us taking Mosley for months in 2014, also called us taking maxx Williams. He MAY Have called Stanley to us quite a bit but I can't remember.

[GrimCoconut]

21 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Charlie Campbell is REALLY committed to the ravens taking adoree Jackson in the first. He's had it for about a month straight. 

I like adoree Jackson but I'd be really mad with him at 16. And Charlie has nailed our picks recently. He had us taking perriman for months in 2015, had us taking Mosley for months in 2014, also called us taking maxx Williams. He MAY Have called Stanley to us quite a bit but I can't remember.

Jackson sorta reminds me of Patrick Peterson. Perhaps a poor mans version but one nonetheless 

[rmw10]

30 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Charlie Campbell is REALLY committed to the ravens taking adoree Jackson in the first. He's had it for about a month straight. 

I like adoree Jackson but I'd be really mad with him at 16. And Charlie has nailed our picks recently. He had us taking perriman for months in 2015, had us taking Mosley for months in 2014, also called us taking maxx Williams. He MAY Have called Stanley to us quite a bit but I can't remember.

I just wish Jackson was a little more technically sound.  There's so much to like, but so much to dislike at the same time.  That recovery speed and overall athleticism is insane, but the technique and overall cover ability is so inconsistent.

[Darhk_Raven]

This week in Matt Miller's scouting notebook he has us taking Cory Davis in the 1st and T.J. Watt in the 2nd.

[rossihunter2]

26 minutes ago, Darhk_Raven said:

This week in Matt Miller's scouting notebook he has us taking Cory Davis in the 1st and T.J. Watt in the 2nd.

That's watt won't make it to us in the 2nd as much as I'd love him to - he'd probably be closer to our pick in the 1st than the 2nd - I'd say he goes around the 20th pick

[RaineV1]

32 minutes ago, Darhk_Raven said:

This week in Matt Miller's scouting notebook he has us taking Cory Davis in the 1st and T.J. Watt in the 2nd.

I don't see Watt being there in the middle of the second, however I would love it if the draft played out like that.

[January J]

14 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

came here specifically to address walterfootball. 

that draft would leave me feeling so incredibly empty. i dont believe mcdowell changes much on our defense, we upgrade a strength and leave our weak parts weak. if mcaffrey is there mid 2nd, id be hard pressed to find a better value, id take him over most prospects that are likely available there, no problem there and hopefully he can provide us a nice boost in the screen/short passing game. darboh in the third though would have me so freaking livid id call for ozzies head for the first time ever.

I don't see how some of these analysts have jobs.  My mom could put together a better mock than that.

[Darhk_Raven]

20 minutes ago, rossihunter2 said:

That's watt won't make it to us in the 2nd as much as I'd love him to - he'd probably be closer to our pick in the 1st than the 2nd - I'd say he goes around the 20th pick

He even has Carl Lawson, Tre'Davious White, and Malik McDowell going in the later 2nd.

 

14 minutes ago, RaineV1 said:

I don't see Watt being there in the middle of the second, however I would love it if the draft played out like that.

I haven't gotten a chance to watch Watt, but if he's as good as I'm hearing then this would be a good start to the draft.

Edited January 6 by Darhk_Raven

[JoeyFlex5]

1 hour ago, GrimCoconut said:

Jackson sorta reminds me of Patrick Peterson. Perhaps a poor mans version but one nonetheless 

isnt he a only 5'10"? 

i can see that though, supreme athlete who gets caught up at times. im not sure im comfortable taking an athletic project db at 16 over a squeaky clean corner with ideal size and fluidity like sidney jjones.

[RavensDieHard21]

For the love of god I am just hoping Ozzie takes either a corner or pass rusher within the first two rounds. I don't mind if one of a purely talent based pick, but we cannot ignore the same problems 3-4 years in a row. 

Ozzie loves to let guys leave in FA then go to the draft and immediately draft those positions, which then leaves us with young inexperienced players at the same position then neglects the fact that we have a lack of corners and pass rushers both coming back from Achilles tears and are going to be 35 and 33. 

[Darhk_Raven]

13 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Charlie Campbell is REALLY committed to the ravens taking adoree Jackson in the first. He's had it for about a month straight. 

I like adoree Jackson but I'd be really mad with him at 16. And Charlie has nailed our picks recently. He had us taking perriman for months in 2015, had us taking Mosley for months in 2014, also called us taking maxx Williams. He MAY Have called Stanley to us quite a bit but I can't remember.

He has us taking a CB in the 1st and 2nd 

[hn68wb4]

14 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Charlie Campbell is REALLY committed to the ravens taking adoree Jackson in the first. He's had it for about a month straight. 

I like adoree Jackson but I'd be really mad with him at 16. And Charlie has nailed our picks recently. He had us taking perriman for months in 2015, had us taking Mosley for months in 2014, also called us taking maxx Williams. He MAY Have called Stanley to us quite a bit but I can't remember.

I don't think I'd be livid with Jackson at 16, he's definitely an effort guy and is willing to contribute any way he can, he'd also fill our returner need. But based solely on what I've seen I just don't see him going that high, dynamic or not I feel like college allows him to live off his athleticism moreso than in the NFL and he needs a lot of work to be a real contributor on defense, you really have to watch out for him because sometimes he bites real hard on pump fakes and double moves. I wouldn't throw a fit, but I'd be sort of disappointed as I think better players will be available.

Edited January 7 by hn68wb4

[JoeyFlex5]

1 hour ago, hn68wb4 said:

I don't think I'd be livid with Jackson at 16, he's definitely an effort guy and is willing to contribute any way he can, he'd also fill our returner need. But based solely on what I've seen I just don't see him going that high, dynamic or not I feel like college allows him to live off his athleticism moreso than in the NFL and he needs a lot of work to be a real contributor on defense, you really have to watch out for him because sometimes he bites real hard on pump fakes and double moves. I wouldn't throw a fit, but I'd be sort of disappointed as I think better players will be available.

exactly how i feel. i like the idea of getting what could possibly be the best return man in the nfl and a extreme upside corner all in one pick, say if we were picking in the mid 20s and guys like charles harris/sidney jones/tj watt/corey davis are all gone, then sure im ok with it then. but even then id prefer a guy like nelson/feeney who i think are both locks to be in the zack martin caliber of guards.