Mock Drafts from the Media

[RavensDieHard21]

9 hours ago, Prino61 said:

Mel Kiper Mock Draft 2.0

 

16. Baltimore Ravens, 8-8

Sidney Jones, CB, Washington*

The Ravens probably want to come out of the draft with more than one cornerback, so they might as well start early. Jones could add a little more muscle to his frame, but he has length and can flat-out cover, and if a QB makes a mistake he can show off hands, pluck the ball and head the other way.

Love it. If we want a 99% guarantee on getting a talented premier talent in round 1. Sidney jones is the way to go. He is a model of consistency and I think an extra 5-10 pounds of muscle over a year or so could make him more physical and transform him into an all around lock down kind of corner. 

Mayock has him ranked 1, I get that. Lattimore had best closing speed and mirroring ability to match his ideal frame, but he has a mini injury history and old played exceptionally well for one year v Jonea who looked really good the past two years l. 

[RavensDieHard21]

6 hours ago, RaineV1 said:

I feel like sites that mock a RB to the Ravens in the first didn't actually watch any of our games, especially not the ones Dixon was starting in. Dixon has everything needed to be a feature back in the NFL, and West and Juice compliment him well enough. The problem was the blocking and having an OC that just wasn't calling run plays.

I agree 100% but depending on scenarios, Fournette could be the best option and give us a three headed monster rushing attack. It would be like 08' all over again. But we would need to beef up the line in round 2-4. 

I mean if Lattimore or someone else at a bigger need was there like Jones, Williams, Barnett, Hooker, Adams, Foster, Davis, then ya easily going the other route, but if they're gone and we can't get a trade back partner, then let the power run game come back to life. If we landed Fournette then were able to make a move for a beast in the trenches like Cam Robinson, Feeney, Dorian Johnson or Lamp, maybe even drafting Banner in the 4th and moving him inside could make a huge difference.  

[Darhk_Raven]

Can someone please tell me why Walter from Walter Football has us going with Cam Robinson in the first with guys like Jones and Wilson on the board. Then he has us taking Malachi Dupre in the second with guys like Tim Williams, Tre'Davious White, Cooper Kupp, and Budda Baker still available after our pick just to name a few.

[allblackraven]

11 minutes ago, Darhk_Raven said:

Can someone please tell me why Walter from Walter Football has us going with Cam Robinson in the first with guys like Jones and Wilson on the board. Then he has us taking Malachi Dupre in the second with guys like Tim Williams, Tre'Davious White, Cooper Kupp, and Budda Baker still available after our pick just to name a few.

He had too much to drink? Or perhaps something stronger?

[usmccharles]

52 minutes ago, Darhk_Raven said:

Can someone please tell me why Walter from Walter Football has us going with Cam Robinson in the first with guys like Jones and Wilson on the board. Then he has us taking Malachi Dupre in the second with guys like Tim Williams, Tre'Davious White, Cooper Kupp, and Budda Baker still available after our pick just to name a few.

From what I gathered he said the value there is just too much to pass up.   I don't know anything about Robinson but I wouldn't really be happy taking a gaurd/c/RT in the first considering our other needs

[Darhk_Raven]

8 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

From what I gathered he said the value there is just too much to pass up.   I don't know anything about Robinson but I wouldn't really be happy taking a gaurd/c/RT in the first considering our other needs

From what I've seen a lot of people don't believe there should be an offensive lineman taken in the top 15, maybe even 20.

[usmccharles]

1 hour ago, Darhk_Raven said:

From what I've seen a lot of people don't believe there should be an offensive lineman taken in the top 15, maybe even 20.

Possibly.  Just restating what the site said, im not even going to attempt to judge talent. So many members on here with some great insight. 

[Davesta]

6 hours ago, Darhk_Raven said:

Can someone please tell me why Walter from Walter Football has us going with Cam Robinson in the first with guys like Jones and Wilson on the board. Then he has us taking Malachi Dupre in the second with guys like Tim Williams, Tre'Davious White, Cooper Kupp, and Budda Baker still available after our pick just to name a few.

Walter always have us taking someone from Alabama. He gets lazy with our picks

[rossihunter2]

there are so many dream-like scenarios that are within the realms of possibility that im excited about that 16th pick - there's only 1 or 2 situations where I don't like the value if the worst happens and even then it's just because i think there's a real chance we get a top 10 player on our board not because another of the top 16 wouldnt be a good pick - i dont think i'd have a problem with any of the possiblities this year - trade up, stick to the pick, trade down all have really good options this year

[RavensDieHard21]

12 hours ago, Darhk_Raven said:

Can someone please tell me why Walter from Walter Football has us going with Cam Robinson in the first with guys like Jones and Wilson on the board. Then he has us taking Malachi Dupre in the second with guys like Tim Williams, Tre'Davious White, Cooper Kupp, and Budda Baker still available after our pick just to name a few.

Ya I would never take Robinson over Jones, but I think Robinson is going to be a brawler at guard. He had some problems at T but I think at G he will be a beast. 

Round two though, never! I'd take Williams regardless, if not definitely Baker. That's easy. These would be moves that would make me protest at the Ravens facilities afterward. 

[January J]

20 hours ago, RaineV1 said:

I feel like sites that mock a RB to the Ravens in the first didn't actually watch any of our games, especially not the ones Dixon was starting in. Dixon has everything needed to be a feature back in the NFL, and West and Juice compliment him well enough. The problem was the blocking and having an OC that just wasn't calling run plays.

I don't think that's necessarily true- I think many people including me know Dixon is going to be special- and I also think west is a good compliment ...but if one of the premiere guys is there at 16 you have to atleast consider it. Fournette is typically seen as the number 1 back - but Cook is almost exactly the type of back that harbs and decosta were describing that we needed- somebody that could be a game wrecker and bust out with 40 & 50 + yard scampers on the drop of a dime- catch passes out the backfeild and take it to the house- AND block well. I too am pretty set on taking a CB or pass rusher...but if our top rated guys at those positions are gone and we think we can get just as good of a talent in the 2nd or third and Dalvin Cook is sitting there @ 16- you have to assume that it will strongly be considered. Say Dixon goes down with an ACL injury in camp? All of a sudden we're not looking so hot at the RB position. I get you could say that for a lot of positions- but there will be more depth elsewhere and without a strong running game it drastically effects the passing  game and we will see another year of dink and dunk offense.

Edited February 16 by January J

[RaineV1]

31 minutes ago, January J said:

I don't think that's necessarily true- I think many people including me know Dixon is going to be special- and I also think west is a good compliment ...but if one of the premiere guys is there at 16 you have to atleast consider it. Fournette is typically seen as the number 1 back - but Cook is almost exactly the type of back that harbs and decosta were describing that we needed- somebody that could be a game wrecker and bust out with 40 & 50 + yard scampers on the drop of a dime- catch passes out the backfeild and take it to the house- AND block well. I too am pretty set on taking a CB or pass rusher...but if our top rated guys at those positions are gone and we think we can get just as good of a talent in the 2nd or third and Dalvin Cook is sitting there @ 16- you have to assume that it will strongly be considered. Say Dixon goes down with an ACL injury in camp? All of a sudden we're not looking so hot at the RB position. I get you could say that for a lot of positions- but there will be more depth elsewhere and without a strong running game it drastically effects the passing  game and we will see another year of dink and dunk offense.

Even if Dixon goes down, I'd still would have preferred focusing on the o-line rather than just another great running back. Also, a RB in the first in a draft this stacked at positions of need for the Ravens just sounds like a horrible idea.

Edited February 16 by RaineV1

[trevorsteadman]

37 minutes ago, RaineV1 said:

Even if Dixon goes down, I'd still would have preferred focusing on the o-line rather than just another great running back. Also, a RB in the first in a draft this stacked at positions of need for the Ravens just sounds like a horrible idea.

I actually disagree here. I do think the Ravens need to replace Wagner and possibly Zuttah but I think the line will get better just from Lewis and Stanley getting older and understanding the game better. It was middle of the pack last season, but from how many times Flacco dumps it off from receivers failing to find separation down the field I think it might be a good pick if Cook is there. I usually am the one advocating to upgrade the o-line but I don't see many great talented o-linemen this draft. Cook has been really explosive the Ravens are needing that checkdown guy. Dixon is still young and it would be fantastic if he worked out. But I do think that part of the offense has been missing since the Ray Rice incident.

[January J]

2 hours ago, trevorsteadman said:

I actually disagree here. I do think the Ravens need to replace Wagner and possibly Zuttah but I think the line will get better just from Lewis and Stanley getting older and understanding the game better. It was middle of the pack last season, but from how many times Flacco dumps it off from receivers failing to find separation down the field I think it might be a good pick if Cook is there. I usually am the one advocating to upgrade the o-line but I don't see many great talented o-linemen this draft. Cook has been really explosive the Ravens are needing that checkdown guy. Dixon is still young and it would be fantastic if he worked out. But I do think that part of the offense has been missing since the Ray Rice incident.

For some reason Ray Rice is who comes to mind for me everytime I think of Dalvin cook. And I believe he can be even better. And just BC we went rb in the first doesn't mean we couldn't focus on the o line as well. I think we all can agree a corner needs to be taken ATLEAST before round 3- probably even by round 2..but a premiere running back could be what Joe needs to get back on track and open up the deep ball. Get Joe a big possession receiver thru FA  like we had in Boldin - we got perriman to stretch the feild like Torrey did- get crock healthy and see some improvement from maxx and waller- now we just need to get the running game respectable again and we'll have the same recipe on offense we did in 2012. Then if jimmy stays healthy - we find a strong corner to start across from him- tavon keeps improving- get another solid year from weddle and cj...the only thing we really need is for judon and ZDS to take that next step and get one more solid year from suggs. ALOT of what ifs..but we could definitely make a run at it next year without question. But to me, the key is the running game. Get back to controlling the time of possession and opening up the play action and deep ball. Joe thrives when he's under 30 attempts a game- and when he is under that amount we tend to win. The more weapons we have at the position the better. We've currently got 3 guys that can stretch the feild- we need 3 strong  running backs incase of injury  and to keep them fresh and open things up for the speedsters down feild.

Edited February 16 by January J

[January J]

3 hours ago, RaineV1 said:

Even if Dixon goes down, I'd still would have preferred focusing on the o-line rather than just another great running back. Also, a RB in the first in a draft this stacked at positions of need for the Ravens just sounds like a horrible idea.

Its definitely not my first choice I'm just saying I would understand it and wouldn't hate it.  If Jones, Wilson, Williams and a few others are gone  then I think you either go for a tradeback or take cook no question.

[trevorsteadman]

2 minutes ago, January J said:

For some reason Ray Rice is who comes to mind for me everytime I think of Dalvin cook. And I believe he can be even better. And just BC we went rb in the first doesn't mean we couldn't focus on the o line as well. I think we all can agree a corner needs to be taken ATLEAST before round 3- probably even by round 2..but a premiere running back could be what Joe needs to get back on track and open up the deep ball. Get Joe a big possession receiver thru FA  like we had in Boldin - we got perriman to stretch the feild like Torrey did- get crock healthy and see some improvement from maxx and waller- now we just need to get the running game respectable again and we'll have the same recipe on offense we did in 2012. Then if jimmy stays healthy - we find a strong corner to start across from him- tavon keeps improving- get another solid year from weddle and cj...the only thing we really need is for judon and ZDS to take that next step and get one more solid year from suggs. ALOT of what ifs..but we could definitely make a run at it next year without question. But to me, the key is the running game. Get back to controlling the time of possession and opening up the play action and deep ball. Joe thrives when he's under 30 attempts a game- and when he is under that amount we tend to win.

I agree both positions need to be upgraded. I would be ecstatic taking Cook at 16 but I don't see any o-linemen worth it at that spot. I wouldn't be surprised actually if the Ravens found a center or guard in round 4 or 5 like they always do that ends up being pretty solid. I really think they hand the keys to Alex Lewis at RT and try to find a replacement at LG or C. 

While I usually don't like the idea of taking a RB in the first round.... Cook does look like he has it all. I really do think if the team were to take one at 16 it would be him. I agree the main focus is controlling the clock. The offense couldn't sustain long drives last season. If it could have the Ravens would've won 4 or 5 more games. That defense played at an allstar level all year and were on the field way longer than they should have. 

[RavensDieHard21]

Latest mock from NFL.com had an anomaly happen. Jamal Adams fell to 16.....with three QBs going plus Taco and Ramcyzk. Possible but unlikely. That would be a crazy score 

[RaineV1]

13 minutes ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

Latest mock from NFL.com had an anomaly happen. Jamal Adams fell to 16.....with three QBs going plus Taco and Ramcyzk. Possible but unlikely. That would be a crazy score 

I would love that happened so much. Jamal Adams would be such a difference maker for our defense.

[RavensDieHard21]

20 minutes ago, RaineV1 said:

I would love that happened so much. Jamal Adams would be such a difference maker for our defense.

Having Weddle and Adams would be insane. One corner away from legion of boom 2.0

[RaineV1]

So, that NFLcom mock was a four round mock. They had the Ravens' draft going:
1: Jamal Adams, S, LSU

2. Dion Dawkins, G, Temple

3. Devonte Fields, OLB, Louisville

3 (comp): Demontae Kazee, CB, San Diego State

4: Kendell Beckwith, ILB, LSU

Would have preferred someone else in the 4th, but I'd be fairly happy with those first three rounds.

[JoeyFlex5]

I'd take cam Robinson at 16. I think he's gonna be a pro bowl guard which we need. Dude is ferocious in the run game

[RavensDieHard21]

49 minutes ago, RaineV1 said:

So, that NFLcom mock was a four round mock. They had the Ravens' draft going:
1: Jamal Adams, S, LSU

2. Dion Dawkins, G, Temple

3. Devonte Fields, OLB, Louisville

3 (comp): Demontae Kazee, CB, San Diego State

4: Kendell Beckwith, ILB, LSU

Would have preferred someone else in the 4th, but I'd be fairly happy with those first three rounds.

Round 2 was tough because I think Tim Williams was still available and so was Budda Baker and Desmond King, etc.

[rossihunter2]

45 minutes ago, RaineV1 said:

So, that NFLcom mock was a four round mock. They had the Ravens' draft going:
1: Jamal Adams, S, LSU

2. Dion Dawkins, G, Temple

3. Devonte Fields, OLB, Louisville

3 (comp): Demontae Kazee, CB, San Diego State

4: Kendell Beckwith, ILB, LSU

Would have preferred someone else in the 4th, but I'd be fairly happy with those first three rounds.

devonte fields has a DV history i think - i looked at who was available at some of those picks and it was a bad mock - malik mcdowell nearly went in the 3rd round, zay jones nearly made it to our 3rd pick, pat elflein wasn't even picked etc. etc. - if some of those options were there i dont think these are the players we end up with

at the 2nd pick we could have had mcdowell, ryan anderson, dan feeney, jabrill peppers, budda baker, zay jones, desmond king, tim williams, jourdan lewis, adoree jackson

it was too early and too uninformed a draft to be honest - the big board was all over the place i imagine

[RavensDieHard21]

54 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I'd take cam Robinson at 16. I think he's gonna be a pro bowl guard which we need. Dude is ferocious in the run game

It's not a popular thought, I hated it at first, but as a guard, his value skyrockets! I'd hope we look for a minor trade back, maybe 3-5 spots and nab a third, then get Robinson. 

Even at 16 I wouldn't flip a table, unless someone more valuable was there. But if no QBs or only 1 go, then a lot of talent could get plucked and Robinson could be the BPA especially since he is a smash mouth brawler in the run game and will very likely improve in pass defense because he won't be on the edge anymore so he will easily handle the powerful interior lineman. 

Edited February 17 by RavensDieHard21

[RavensDieHard21]

Best mock Draft yet!!!! 

From Baltimore Beatdown, very realistic first and even second round. Even with QBs going late. 

1.) Derek Barnett, edge 

2.) Gareon Conley, CB

3.) Cooper Kupp, WR

3.) Tyler Orlovsky, C

Besides Kupp still being there, super realistic mock. If Kupp was gone id be all in for CB Kevin King, WR Isaiah Ford, ILB McMillan or WR Zay Jones. 

I would literally cry with excitement 

[JoeyFlex5]

Am I the only one who doesn't think very highly of Conley? Maybe it's because he had such a horrific game vs clemson

[RavensDieHard21]

7 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Am I the only one who doesn't think very highly of Conley? Maybe it's because he had such a horrific game vs clemson

Conley isn't as consistent as Lattimore or Jones, but he is still a pretty darn good corner. He had a pick vs Clemson when M. Williams fell, but Conley had to be in position to make that in the first place. Clemson was a bit of an outlier too. The historically good Alabama defense had 99 plays run on it and gave up multiple 4th quarter leads. Clemson was just special this year.  

Conley is physical at the line and can play off coverage pretty well. He gets lazy in run duties though. Basically shows no effort to get off of blocks. 

[rossihunter2]

14 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Am I the only one who doesn't think very highly of Conley? Maybe it's because he had such a horrific game vs clemson

I often agree with you but I really like Conley especially in man coverage - he has some issues with fluid hips but shows good quickness, nice aggression finding the football and some decent (if not brilliant) tackling - I think I said this before somewhere but he reminds me of a taller tavon young in a lot of ways - I'd be very interested in his measurables at the combine

[JoeyFlex5]

Just now, rossihunter2 said:

I often agree with you but I really like Conley especially in man coverage - he has some issues with fluid hips but shows good quickness, nice aggression finding the football and some decent (if not brilliant) tackling - I think I said this before somewhere but he reminds me of a taller tavon young in a lot of ways - I'd be very interested in his measurables at the combine

I haven't done my due diligence on him. I watched a little bit of one game where he did decent, and then I watched Clemson and I haven't watched him since. Could definitely be a case of letting an outlier determine my feelings

[rossihunter2]

3 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

I haven't done my due diligence on him. I watched a little bit of one game where he did decent, and then I watched Clemson and I haven't watched him since. Could definitely be a case of letting an outlier determine my feelings

I did the exact same with Charles Harris and a couple of others too - but he attacks the ball and I love that in corners - maybe too much lol - after the combine I'll go back and rewatch all the corners and see if any opinions have changed but I like Conley