Mock Drafts from the Media

[ellicottraven]

1 hour ago, RaineV1 said:

People love Peppers' potential and athleticism, but yeah, he's not some big playmaker right now. I think he's one of those guys that's kinda raw and a better athlete than football player at the moment. With the right supporting cast and coaches he could become a great player, but it's not going to be instant and there is a big chance of him becoming a bust (at least a bust for a first round pick). I would take a guy like him with out second round pick, but not the first. Let some other team gamble on him in the first.

I agree he's too much of a risk as a first round pick and if we take him in our second and he turns out to be a bust, he'll just join a whole list of 2nd round busts - Terrence Cody, Sergio Kindle and Arthur Brown come immediately to mind!

[allblackraven]

Just now, ellicottraven said:

I agree he's too much of a risk as a first round pick and if we take him in our second and he turns out to be a bust, he'll just join a whole list of 2nd round busts - Terrence Cody, Sergio Kindle and Arthur Brown come immediately to mind!

College players now probably dread being taken by the Ravens in 2nd round.

[ellicottraven]

Just now, allblackraven said:

College players now probably dread being taken by the Ravens in 2nd round.

Can you blame them?

[ravensnation5220]

9 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

College players now probably dread being taken by the Ravens in 2nd round.

Desmond king doesn't seem to mind. I kinda hope he'll be our pick too. He could change that perception I believe 

[allblackraven]

31 minutes ago, ellicottraven said:

Can you blame them?

I was half joking but no, I can't blame them

22 minutes ago, ravensnation5220 said:

Desmond king doesn't seem to mind. I kinda hope he'll be our pick too. He could change that perception I believe 

There should be better options in 2nd for us I think. I wouldn't mind King but from 3rd on.

[ravensnation5220]

2 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

There should be better options in 2nd for us I think. I wouldn't mind King but from 3rd on.

It'd be nice if he could fall that far but I'm not betting on it based of his production, character and longevity. His athletic traits aren't great but the traits I mentioned should get him drafted earlier than 3rd. Although that would be great value and he's in a deep DB class so it is possible 

[RaineV1]

41 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

College players now probably dread being taken by the Ravens in 2nd round.

I don't know. You don't have go that far back to see a successful second round pick. KO played well here and then got a gigantic check from the Raiders. Him, Torrey, and Kruger all got their money after the Ravens, and a super bowl ring while here.

Edited February 13 by RaineV1

[allblackraven]

6 minutes ago, ravensnation5220 said:

It'd be nice if he could fall that far but I'm not betting on it based of his production, character and longevity. His athletic traits aren't great but the traits I mentioned should get him drafted earlier than 3rd. Although that would be great value and he's in a deep DB class so it is possible 

Ravens like seniors, so nothing is out of question.

[ellicottraven]

I'm going to lay out a few names I wouldn't mind in the first round. All realistic hopefully depending on how many QBs go before us. Dalvin Cook. Quincy Wilson, Taco Charleton, Teez Tabor, Corey Davis. Lucky if these guys are avaiable and we should pounce - Rueben Foster, Mike Williams, Marcus Lattimore, Solomon Thomas or maybe even Fournette ( all unlikely but one can always hope and pray)!

[RavensDieHard21]

10 hours ago, allblackraven said:

I was half joking but no, I can't blame them

There should be better options in 2nd for us I think. I wouldn't mind King but from 3rd on.

King is one year removed from winning the Jim Thorpe Award and an 8 interception season. The guys is baller. He might not have been the fluidity to mirror receivers as some others do, but he sure as heck makes up for it with the rest of his skill set. 

If he runs 4.5-4.58 range I think he will be great as safety with versatility to play corner

[RavensDieHard21]

5 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

I'm going to lay out a few names I wouldn't mind in the first round. All realistic hopefully depending on how many QBs go before us. Dalvin Cook. Quincy Wilson, Taco Charleton, Teez Tabor, Corey Davis. Lucky if these guys are avaiable and we should pounce - Rueben Foster, Mike Williams, Marcus Lattimore, Solomon Thomas or maybe even Fournette ( all unlikely but one can always hope and pray)!

If I had to guess the best trading partner to move up to grab Foster, Williams or Lattimore it would be Cleveland. Think they would answer our call?🤔😆 

Indy has a lot of the same needs as us and so does Philly with WR,CB, and even RB. So if one of those top guys made it past 10, I think it would be hard to get them after philly and Indy. But ya never know. 

[ravensnation5220]

8 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

I'm going to lay out a few names I wouldn't mind in the first round. All realistic hopefully depending on how many QBs go before us. Dalvin Cook. Quincy Wilson, Taco Charleton, Teez Tabor, Corey Davis. Lucky if these guys are avaiable and we should pounce - Rueben Foster, Mike Williams, Marcus Lattimore, Solomon Thomas or maybe even Fournette ( all unlikely but one can always hope and pray)!

I would take cook off that list for his off feild issues. I don't see him on our board with his history

[ellicottraven]

3 hours ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

If I had to guess the best trading partner to move up to grab Foster, Williams or Lattimore it would be Cleveland. Think they would answer our call?🤔😆 

Indy has a lot of the same needs as us and so does Philly with WR,CB, and even RB. So if one of those top guys made it past 10, I think it would be hard to get them after philly and Indy. But ya never know. 

Typically no team would do that, but with Cleveland and their baseball analytics who knows? They did trade Stephon Gilmore to the Steelers for a 6th round pick right?

[rossihunter2]

58 minutes ago, ellicottraven said:

Typically no team would do that, but with Cleveland and their baseball analytics who knows? They did trade Stephon Gilmore to the Steelers for a 6th round pick right?

dont you mean justin gilbert? he was a bust and they got a pick out of him... that was a pretty good move - the bad move was drafting him in the first place but that was before the analytics guys were even a wink in jim haslam's eye

[ellicottraven]

1 hour ago, rossihunter2 said:

dont you mean justin gilbert? he was a bust and they got a pick out of him... that was a pretty good move - the bad move was drafting him in the first place but that was before the analytics guys were even a wink in jim haslam's eye

Yes sorry Justin Gilbert... but wasn't the 'money ball' guy already in place before they drafted Gilbert and Manziel 1 and 2 in the first round? I thought he was.

Edited February 13 by ellicottraven

[ravensnation5220]

Charlie Campbell came out with another mock

 Baltimore Ravens: Dalvin Cook, RB, Florida State  
The Ravens could use a feature back for their offense. 

In 2016, Cook averaged 6.0 yards per carry for 1,765 yards and 19 touchdowns. He also had 33 receptions for 488 yards. Cook is well-built and has the quickness to slash through a defense; however, he has some strange ball-security issues. Cook also has some power to him, but he seems to use it selectively as he runs out of bounds often and is consistently looking to bounce runs to the outside. 

Teams do have some off-the-field concerns about Cook and his character. He escaped some legal issues last year, but teams say that Cook has an entourage of gangbangers and they worry Cook drinks too much. Staying out of trouble is a concern that teams have. 

With Jameis Winston in the NFL, Cook carried the Florida State offense in 2015. He averaged 7.4 yards per carry on his way to 1,691 yards and 19 touchdowns. The sophomore also had 24 receptions for 244 yards and a score. As a true freshman in 2014, Cook averaged 5.9 yards per carry for 1,008 yards and eight touchdowns. He caught 22 passes for 203 yards, too.

I don't understand this pick. If he's reporting character concerns and some that I didn't know so that adds even more against him, why would the ravens take him? Theyre probably one of these teams who are reporting about these concerns. The ravens have also been known to avoid these types of players so why would he have them take him? 

[usmccharles]

No way we draft Cook.  I actually think Fournette and Cook are off the board when we pick

[rossihunter2]

2 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

Yes sorry Justin Gilbert... but wasn't the 'money ball' guy already in place before they drafted Gilbert and Manziel 1 and 2 in the first round? I thought he was.

nope - sashi brown and paul de podesta came in to fix the previous regime's mess- this last year was their first year on the job and they did ok - they found some good pieces and amassed some promising if not unbelievable rookies (15 of whom made the opening day 53 which is crazy), brought in the best HC candidate from last year's group - if they can nail this upcoming draft and maybe grab garropolo for their 12th pick then the browns could potentially vacate joke status as a team

[ravensnation5220]

47 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

No way we draft Cook.  I actually think Fournette and Cook are off the board when we pick

Why fournette?

[Drew P]

2 hours ago, ravensnation5220 said:

Charlie Campbell came out with another mock

 Baltimore Ravens: Dalvin Cook, RB, Florida State  
The Ravens could use a feature back for their offense. 

In 2016, Cook averaged 6.0 yards per carry for 1,765 yards and 19 touchdowns. He also had 33 receptions for 488 yards. Cook is well-built and has the quickness to slash through a defense; however, he has some strange ball-security issues. Cook also has some power to him, but he seems to use it selectively as he runs out of bounds often and is consistently looking to bounce runs to the outside. 

Teams do have some off-the-field concerns about Cook and his character. He escaped some legal issues last year, but teams say that Cook has an entourage of gangbangers and they worry Cook drinks too much. Staying out of trouble is a concern that teams have. 

With Jameis Winston in the NFL, Cook carried the Florida State offense in 2015. He averaged 7.4 yards per carry on his way to 1,691 yards and 19 touchdowns. The sophomore also had 24 receptions for 244 yards and a score. As a true freshman in 2014, Cook averaged 5.9 yards per carry for 1,008 yards and eight touchdowns. He caught 22 passes for 203 yards, too.

I don't understand this pick. If he's reporting character concerns and some that I didn't know so that adds even more against him, why would the ravens take him? Theyre probably one of these teams who are reporting about these concerns. The ravens have also been known to avoid these types of players so why would he have them take him? 

I thought I seen Cam Robinson to JAX on that site as well so I kinda dismissed that mock as garbage

[usmccharles]

24 minutes ago, ravensnation5220 said:

Why fournette?

Why Fournette what? Lol

[Jacquouille]

27 minutes ago, ravensnation5220 said:

Why fournette?

Because a team will have picked him before - John Madden

[usmccharles]

2 minutes ago, Jacquouille said:

Because a team will have picked him before - John Madden

Haha yea,  I didn't get what he didn't understand 

[ravensnation5220]

11 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

Why Fournette what? Lol

Why would Fournette be off our board? he'll be gone by then? I was saying cook is undraftable for the ravens, i dont think Fournette is undraftable 

[usmccharles]

1 hour ago, ravensnation5220 said:

Why would Fournette be off our board? he'll be gone by then? I was saying cook is undraftable for the ravens, i dont think Fournette is undraftable 

Because in my opinion he will be drafted before we pick,  pretty simple.  Fournette isn't undraftable,  I just think he will be unavailable 

Edited February 13 by usmccharles

[ravensnation5220]

1 hour ago, usmccharles said:

Because in my opinion he will be drafted before we pick,  pretty simple.  Fournette isn't undraftable,  I just think he will be unavailable 

Oh I see. Didn't know what you meant my bad

[ellicottraven]

3 hours ago, rossihunter2 said:

nope - sashi brown and paul de podesta came in to fix the previous regime's mess- this last year was their first year on the job and they did ok - they found some good pieces and amassed some promising if not unbelievable rookies (15 of whom made the opening day 53 which is crazy), brought in the best HC candidate from last year's group - if they can nail this upcoming draft and maybe grab garropolo for their 12th pick then the browns could potentially vacate joke status as a team

12th pick to the Patriots? I don't think even the Browns give up a 1st round pick especially the 12th for Jimmy G.

[RaineV1]

5 minutes ago, ellicottraven said:

12th pick to the Patriots? I don't think even the Browns give up a 1st round pick especially the 12th for Jimmy G.

I can see the giving up their 2nd round pick for him, but yeah, not one of the firsts.

[rossihunter2]

12 hours ago, RaineV1 said:

I can see the giving up their 2nd round pick for him, but yeah, not one of the firsts.

I think that's what it will take and someone will do it because there are 3 teams that viably could do it especially given how weak this qb draft class is - people citing brock osweiler as a reason not to sign him is also ridiculous because he'll have a year left on the rookie contract - essentially a one year prove it deal - are you really telling me that jimmy g isn't worth the twelfth pick when some of the qbs in this class are currently being mocked at the 2nd and 3rd pick etc

[usmccharles]

1 hour ago, rossihunter2 said:

I think that's what it will take and someone will do it because there are 3 teams that viably could do it especially given how weak this qb draft class is - people citing brock osweiler as a reason not to sign him is also ridiculous because he'll have a year left on the rookie contract - essentially a one year prove it deal - are you really telling me that jimmy g isn't worth the twelfth pick when some of the qbs in this class are currently being mocked at the 2nd and 3rd pick etc

I actually agree with you.  I could easily see the 12th being given up,  although I wouldn't do it because the Browns have so many holes.  I think Garret and then if they added another db at 12 that could really boost their defense, it's not like they are a qb away from winning.   Also,  why not Fournette/cook to them as well.   I'm Very interested in that they do.