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Mock Drafts from the Media

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12 minutes ago, Darhk_Raven said:

There is no way Reubon Foster drops to 16. He is a top 10 draft pick. 

 

Exactly! In the last six NFL Draft there have only been two players draft by the Ravens, but every time you look up someone is being mocked all because of the connection. 

While I agree Foster may not drop to the Ravens that doesn't mean the Ravens don't potentially trade up. Plus who knows other players may drop him out of the top 10. There are a lot of good players that are rising up draft boards right now. 

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8 minutes ago, trevorsteadman said:

While I agree Foster may not drop to the Ravens that doesn't mean the Ravens don't potentially trade up. Plus who knows other players may drop him out of the top 10. There are a lot of good players that are rising up draft boards right now. 

I don't see him getting past all of Tennessee, Cincinnati, New Orleans, Arizona and Indianapolis now that they cut D'Qwell Jackson. 

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1 hour ago, Darhk_Raven said:

Am I the only one getting tired of seeing players from Alabama mocked to us because of the "Ozzie" connection? 

Same with the Michigan Harbaugh brother connection

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1 hour ago, jboy19 said:

I don't see him getting past all of Tennessee, Cincinnati, New Orleans, Arizona and Indianapolis now that they cut D'Qwell Jackson. 

But what I am getting at is stock for other players are rising and it is still early in the process. While it is highly unlikely anything can happen. All those teams you mentioned have more than one hole to fill. 

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48 minutes ago, berad said:

Same with the Michigan Harbaugh brother connection

I actually see this one as more annoying recently than the Alabama one. Maybe it is just because I like more of the players coming out of Alabama this year lol

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1 hour ago, trevorsteadman said:

I actually see this one as more annoying recently than the Alabama one. Maybe it is just because I like more of the players coming out of Alabama this year lol

i feel the exact same way - the connection doesnt bug me with bama coz i like their guys but the michigan one does because im less of a fan of their guys

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The real connection should be with senior bowlers and champions. The ravens have either targeted or drafted players with a championship often, like upshaw, Mosley, Jernigan, brooks, and then we wanted zeke, and then we've drafted the most senior bowlers in the league. 

Although I think the Bama connection holds some water more than some like to admit, not because of the number of guys we've taken but because of how high we've taken them, you can't convince me that if a guy from Bama and another player were a dead tie on ozzies board that he wouldn't lean one way because of his ties, I think that showed when he picked upshaw

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3 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

The real connection should be with senior bowlers and champions. The ravens have either targeted or drafted players with a championship often, like upshaw, Mosley, Jernigan, brooks, and then we wanted zeke, and then we've drafted the most senior bowlers in the league. 

Although I think the Bama connection holds some water more than some like to admit, not because of the number of guys we've taken but because of how high we've taken them, you can't convince me that if a guy from Bama and another player were a dead tie on ozzies board that he wouldn't lean one way because of his ties, I think that showed when he picked upshaw

Do you think there was another player on the board he was trying to decide between with Upshaw?

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2 hours ago, usmccharles said:

Do you think there was another player on the board he was trying to decide between with Upshaw?

not exactly but i do think that if upshaw had been from another school we wouldnt have taken him so high. 

i dont buy into the ozzie-bama connection fully, but i do think there is something there. if upshaw had played for LSU or ND or USC i dont think we wouldve taken him there, i really think thats a time where the alabama thing had him lean towards a player. he could have taken a good few players who were far superior and better fits for our needs but i think ozzie locked in on upshaw from the time he realized he would fall, devised a plan to trade back for him, and got his guy. 

do i think he was torn between 2 players there? no, do i think this is a case where ozzie may have been smitten by an overrated player and the alma mater very well could have played a part? absolutely. i just cant see us being so laser focused on a player like upshaw if he was from literally any school but alabama.

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8 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

not exactly but i do think that if upshaw had been from another school we wouldnt have taken him so high. 

i dont buy into the ozzie-bama connection fully, but i do think there is something there. if upshaw had played for LSU or ND or USC i dont think we wouldve taken him there, i really think thats a time where the alabama thing had him lean towards a player. he could have taken a good few players who were far superior and better fits for our needs but i think ozzie locked in on upshaw from the time he realized he would fall, devised a plan to trade back for him, and got his guy. 

do i think he was torn between 2 players there? no, do i think this is a case where ozzie may have been smitten by an overrated player and the alma mater very well could have played a part? absolutely. i just cant see us being so laser focused on a player like upshaw if he was from literally any school but alabama.

I don't think it's just because he went to Alabama. 

We all need to remember a very large portion of the connection is Ozzie talks to the entire coaching staff and personnel there and gets a much better feel for the players. If he has player A from Bama rated the same as player B from USC, he'll take A because he's 100% communicated with Bama far more about that prospect and knows what to expect with that player.

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11 hours ago, usmccharles said:

Do you think there was another player on the board he was trying to decide between with Upshaw?

I would imagine Glenn was high on the list there.

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5 hours ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I would imagine Glenn was high on the list there.

Alshon Jeffrey should have been as well. I had picked out from about January that year as the guy we should get.

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6 hours ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I don't think it's just because he went to Alabama. 

We all need to remember a very large portion of the connection is Ozzie talks to the entire coaching staff and personnel there and gets a much better feel for the players. If he has player A from Bama rated the same as player B from USC, he'll take A because he's 100% communicated with Bama far more about that prospect and knows what to expect with that player.

That was part of my point. He has ties with them so he is more familiar in every aspect, it's like a comfort thing

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6 hours ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I would imagine Glenn was high on the list there.

Glenn was probably my top choice for us that year, he was definitely top 3

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saw a mock just now that had us going john ross and then budda baker first and second. id be cool with baker there but that  one was... unique

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38 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

saw a mock just now that had us going john ross and then budda baker first and second. id be cool with baker there but that  one was... unique

I could not see John Ross at 16. I'm not even sure he goes in the first.

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7 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

I could not see John Ross at 16. I'm not even sure he goes in the first.

id be hype with the baker pick in the 2nd, but ross at 16 would have me livid, like whats even the point? 

hell, i would take baker over ross at 16 if it came down to it(it wont, but, whatevs)

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2 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

id be hype with the baker pick in the 2nd, but ross at 16 would have me livid, like whats even the point? 

hell, i would take baker over ross at 16 if it came down to it(it wont, but, whatevs)

I like Ross a lot, but as a 2nd rounder.    Ross, reminds me of Shepard, a player who has really good hands and runs really nice routes.  I could see Ross going high to mid 2nd round.  

Also like Baker a lot..  a little undersized, but he's all over the field and has good ball skills and seems to be a sure tackler.

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Just now, RavensFanMania said:

I like Ross a lot, but as a 2nd rounder.    Ross, reminds me of Shepard, a player who has really good hands and runs really nice routes.  I could see Ross going high to mid 2nd round.  

Also like Baker a lot..  a little undersized, but he's all over the field and has good ball skills and seems to be a sure tackler.

i think shepard looked far more refined and more sure handed, ross reminds me a lot of, and im not saying this just because hes a former ravens burner, torrey smith. does a lot of over the shoulder catches on fly routes, occasionally makes an impressive catch but never really blows anyones mind with his hands, routes need work. meh, i just personally think hes another above average burner, which is fine but not my cup of tea. 

baker is instinctive as hell, probably the most explosive db in the class, and if he can continue playing bigger than his size at the next level i think he could compete with adams and hooker, the 5'9" frame and short arms are gonna be a hindrance but he just does everything so well.

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2 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

i think shepard looked far more refined and more sure handed, ross reminds me a lot of, and im not saying this just because hes a former ravens burner, torrey smith. does a lot of over the shoulder catches on fly routes, occasionally makes an impressive catch but never really blows anyones mind with his hands, routes need work. meh, i just personally think hes another above average burner, which is fine but not my cup of tea. 

baker is instinctive as hell, probably the most explosive db in the class, and if he can continue playing bigger than his size at the next level i think he could compete with adams and hooker, the 5'9" frame and short arms are gonna be a hindrance but he just does everything so well.

Baker isn't 5'9 is he? I thought he was more of the 5'10 and a half kind of guy. I wouldn't mind him either. He brings energy and speed which is exactly what Ed Reed did so well. Would love Budda, but I think there will be better players available around our 2nd

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55 minutes ago, raven94 said:

Baker isn't 5'9 is he? I thought he was more of the 5'10 and a half kind of guy. I wouldn't mind him either. He brings energy and speed which is exactly what Ed Reed did so well. Would love Budda, but I think there will be better players available around our 2nd

id be shocked if he was 5'10". he looks 5'9-1/2" at most when watching him play. i think he has more than enough ability to make up for it though

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12 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

id be shocked if he was 5'10". he looks 5'9-1/2" at most when watching him play. i think he has more than enough ability to make up for it though

I'd actually expect him to be a shade over 5'10", on tape when I've seen him standing up straight next to Jones - who I think is every bit of 6'0" - I don't think he looks 5'9". Maybe 5'10-1/5", somewhere around there, but we'll find out soon enough, the combine is right around the corner.

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mid 1st round pick....I am salivating already to see the draft.....

 

I have my eye on Jabrill Peppers

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2 hours ago, gtalk12 said:

mid 1st round pick....I am salivating already to see the draft.....

 

I have my eye on Jabrill Peppers

Peppers is an extremely interesting guy where he could do sort of a rover cover on the backend and move him around as a blitzer. Possibly may only be used in nickel or smaller formations tho which may make him a reach at 16.

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I think Jabril Peppers would be best as a weakside linebacker in a 4-3 defense. A smaller LB used for covering backs and slot receivers. Basically how the Panthers use Shaq Thompson.

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14 hours ago, hn68wb4 said:

I'd actually expect him to be a shade over 5'10", on tape when I've seen him standing up straight next to Jones - who I think is every bit of 6'0" - I don't think he looks 5'9". Maybe 5'10-1/5", somewhere around there, but we'll find out soon enough, the combine is right around the corner.

Ya. Either way he's no more than 5-10. That's no the issue though. The issue is his length. His arms are pretty short. Maybe 30 inch arms. 

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I'm a little wary of peppers. I see the hype and skill set and love the roll he can play on our team. My issue however is that he only has 1 career pick and 0 forced fumbles. Tyrann Mathieu had 4 picks and 11 forced fumbles in his 2 years at lsu

I see peppers potential but his lack of ball skills and big plays on defense make me skeptical. I would've liked to see him force more turnovers on the defensive side of the ball. I'll have a close eye on him at the combine to see how well he can track the ball too. Never really saw him do that at michigan

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2 hours ago, ravensnation5220 said:

I'm a little wary of peppers. I see the hype and skill set and love the roll he can play on our team. My issue however is that he only has 1 career pick and 0 forced fumbles. Tyrann Mathieu had 4 picks and 11 forced fumbles in his 2 years at lsu

I see peppers potential but his lack of ball skills and big plays on defense make me skeptical. I would've liked to see him force more turnovers on the defensive side of the ball. I'll have a close eye on him at the combine to see how well he can track the ball too. Never really saw him do that at michigan

People love Peppers' potential and athleticism, but yeah, he's not some big playmaker right now. I think he's one of those guys that's kinda raw and a better athlete than football player at the moment. With the right supporting cast and coaches he could become a great player, but it's not going to be instant and there is a big chance of him becoming a bust (at least a bust for a first round pick). I would take a guy like him with out second round pick, but not the first. Let some other team gamble on him in the first.

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52 minutes ago, RaineV1 said:

People love Peppers' potential and athleticism, but yeah, he's not some big playmaker right now. I think he's one of those guys that's kinda raw and a better athlete than football player at the moment. With the right supporting cast and coaches he could become a great player, but it's not going to be instant and there is a big chance of him becoming a bust (at least a bust for a first round pick). I would take a guy like him with out second round pick, but not the first. Let some other team gamble on him in the first.

Ya i agree. There's a difference between being an athlete then a football player compared to being a football player whose an athlete. Everyone in the NFL is athletic so peppers may need time to develope his game. I think he can be a great lb/s hybrid. But he needs a lot of work 

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