Mock Drafts from the Media

[RavensDieHard21]

Reuters has us taking:

Sid Jones

Ryan Anderson 

D'onta Foreman 

wouldnt be too mad with this.

I don't think we are going to get a 3rd round como though, unless KO getting All-pro changes things because Broncos will get two for Jackson and Osweiler and the Dolphins will get one for Vernon and Carolina will get one for Norman

[rmw10]

16 minutes ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

Reuters has us taking:

Sid Jones

Ryan Anderson 

D'onta Foreman 

wouldnt be too mad with this.

I don't think we are going to get a 3rd round como though, unless KO getting All-pro changes things because Broncos will get two for Jackson and Osweiler and the Dolphins will get one for Vernon and Carolina will get one for Norman

I'd be very surprised if KO isn't a 3rd at this point.  He signed a big contract, played 15/16 games, earned a Pro Bowl nod, and earned an All-Pro nod.  There's no limit to the number of picks given out per round.  KO should officially be in that upper realm.

Edited January 25 by rmw10

[RavensDieHard21]

1 hour ago, rmw10 said:

I'd be very surprised if KO isn't a 3rd at this point.  He signed a big contract, played 15/16 games, earned a Pro Bowl nod, and earned an All-Pro nod.  There's no limit to the number of picks given out per round.  KO should officially be in that upper realm.

I hope you are right. Whenever I've seen 3 round mocks I haven't seen anyone give us a potential comp pick, but then again what do they know? 

[JoeyFlex5]

2 hours ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

Reuters has us taking:

Sid Jones

Ryan Anderson 

D'onta Foreman 

wouldnt be too mad with this.

I don't think we are going to get a 3rd round como though, unless KO getting All-pro changes things because Broncos will get two for Jackson and Osweiler and the Dolphins will get one for Vernon and Carolina will get one for Norman

Ko was almost certain to get us a 3rd on contract alone, pro bowl nod and all pro status should seal the deal

[usmccharles]

38 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

Ko was almost certain to get us a 3rd on contract alone, pro bowl nod and all pro status should seal the deal

Would you have any issues with trading both are 3rds to jump into the 2nd, I don't know if those would be enough to get back in the first.  But our second and a third im sure could get us a great haul as well.  Since we can trade comp picks now

[RavensDieHard21]

2 hours ago, usmccharles said:

Would you have any issues with trading both are 3rds to jump into the 2nd, I don't know if those would be enough to get back in the first.  But our second and a third im sure could get us a great haul as well.  Since we can trade comp picks now

I would anyway. That is if there is someone we really like still sitting there. I think this is a deep defensive class with some pleasant surprises at center and receiver. 

All depends on our first combo of players though too. If we miss on either edge or CB, then by all means, let's try to come back in. I could def see us taking some combo like Corey Davis then Ryan Anderson then trading up to grab Desmond King, Jourdan Lewis, or an interior guy like Pat Eiflein. 

We should keep a close eye on the senior bowl because I think this is where we will find our guys. Really like Lamp, Feeney, Lewis, White, King and Kupp. 

[usmccharles]

5 minutes ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

I would anyway. That is if there is someone we really like still sitting there. I think this is a deep defensive class with some pleasant surprises at center and receiver. 

All depends on our first combo of players though too. If we miss on either edge or CB, then by all means, let's try to come back in. I could def see us taking some combo like Corey Davis then Ryan Anderson then trading up to grab Desmond King, Jourdan Lewis, or an interior guy like Pat Eiflein. 

We should keep a close eye on the senior bowl because I think this is where we will find our guys. Really like Lamp, Feeney, Lewis, White, King and Kupp. 

If we could come out somehow with King and Harris, I think that would be huge

[RavensDieHard21]

53 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

If we could come out somehow with King and Harris, I think that would be huge

Best part about that is we could most likely trade back and land Harris and at least get a 4th round pick in doing so. 

[usmccharles]

1 minute ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

Best part about that is we could most likely trade back and land Harris and at least get a 4th round pick in doing so. 

I think its a little too early to judge where players go.  It is going to change so many times from now till the draft.  But either way, I would be more than ok using a 2 and a 3 to get back in the first and get a pass rusher and a DB

[JoeyFlex5]

4 hours ago, usmccharles said:

Would you have any issues with trading both are 3rds to jump into the 2nd, I don't know if those would be enough to get back in the first.  But our second and a third im sure could get us a great haul as well.  Since we can trade comp picks now

well i really like the 3rd round, so idk. i think an amazing deal for us would be this: trade back to the early 20s from 16(unless lattimore, barnett, or williams are there), picking up a 2nd, and then depending on who is there for THAT pick, trade back again for a 3rd and 4th, targeting feeney in the late first, and then pocic or elflein in the 2nd, and from there we could go a number of different ways, there could be some nice edge rushers available like possibly watt or smoot, we could go after evan engram and get that complementary receiver(the guy would fit beautifully here). possibly moreau, hell even mccaffrey could fall a good bit(unlikely but im seeing him go in the 2nd in many mocks) or even desmond kig or tre white. and then in the 3rd we could land guys like juju if he falls as i think he will, marcus williams a rangy safety, kendell beckwith, alex anzalone, isaiah ford, forrest lamp, taylor moton, and a ton of really good runningbacks. 

we could get a ton of talent by trading back and landing another 2nd and 3rd. and im beginning to think dan feeney, unless some great players inexplicably fall, could be the best option for us if we can find a good trade.

[Drew P]

2 hours ago, usmccharles said:

I think its a little too early to judge where players go.  It is going to change so many times from now till the draft.  But either way, I would be more than ok using a 2 and a 3 to get back in the first and get a pass rusher and a DB

Definitely too early to call any trades but this class has a ton of pass rusher's and CB's.

 

[RaineV1]

6 hours ago, usmccharles said:

Would you have any issues with trading both are 3rds to jump into the 2nd, I don't know if those would be enough to get back in the first.  But our second and a third im sure could get us a great haul as well.  Since we can trade comp picks now

I think it depends on who is there. With as stacked as this class it, my first preference would be to have as many picks as possible in the first three rounds, and I'd sooner trade the third comp and fifth round pick to move up from the end of the third to grab someone that slid further than expected. However, there is always the possibility of some shocking name being available late in the second, but they'd better be someone great.

Edited January 25 by RaineV1

[ravensnation5220]

56 minutes ago, RaineV1 said:

I think it depends on who is there. With as stacked as this class it, my first preference would be to have as many picks as possible in the first three rounds, and I'd sooner trade the third comp and fifth round pick to move up from the end of the third to grab someone that slid further than expected. However, there is always the possibility of some shocking name being available late in the second, but they'd better be someone great.

I agree, I want as many first 3 round picks as possible. With the depth of this class we can really solidify some key positions of need for years to come if we do it right. I'm thinking corner, interior oline, linebacker(out or in), safety, heck even wideout if we like Cooper kill in the second round(if he even drops that far now) 

I've also noticed the amount of versatility a lot of these kids have at the senior bowl. Guys that can play multiple positions would be a major plus for us

[ravensnation5220]

I just saw a mock draft have us take lattimore, Charles harris, and Isaiah ford.......what a beautiful thing that would be.....one can dream...one can dream

[RavensDieHard21]

7 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

well i really like the 3rd round, so idk. i think an amazing deal for us would be this: trade back to the early 20s from 16(unless lattimore, barnett, or williams are there), picking up a 2nd, and then depending on who is there for THAT pick, trade back again for a 3rd and 4th, targeting feeney in the late first, and then pocic or elflein in the 2nd, and from there we could go a number of different ways, there could be some nice edge rushers available like possibly watt or smoot, we could go after evan engram and get that complementary receiver(the guy would fit beautifully here). possibly moreau, hell even mccaffrey could fall a good bit(unlikely but im seeing him go in the 2nd in many mocks) or even desmond kig or tre white. and then in the 3rd we could land guys like juju if he falls as i think he will, marcus williams a rangy safety, kendell beckwith, alex anzalone, isaiah ford, forrest lamp, taylor moton, and a ton of really good runningbacks. 

we could get a ton of talent by trading back and landing another 2nd and 3rd. and im beginning to think dan feeney, unless some great players inexplicably fall, could be the best option for us if we can find a good trade.

I am game for gathering picks in that scenario, but who would be willing I give up a 2nd for a move of 5 spots or so? Is the value there? I would say certainly a third, but I'm not sure we could get a second, unless we traded back to like 23 or 25 or something. 

Despite really really needing an early pass rusher, I would be stoked if we got Feeney in the 20s then came back around and grabbed Eiflein. All of a sudden you have a real good shot at having a monstrous line, maybe not year 1, but def after the rookies were to work out the kinks. 

[RavensDieHard21]

5 hours ago, RaineV1 said:

I think it depends on who is there. With as stacked as this class it, my first preference would be to have as many picks as possible in the first three rounds, and I'd sooner trade the third comp and fifth round pick to move up from the end of the third to grab someone that slid further than expected. However, there is always the possibility of some shocking name being available late in the second, but they'd better be someone great.

Guys that I believe early on that could still be there--obviously the combine could shake this up--are Gareon Conley from Ohio, Jourdan Lewis from Michigan will possibly be there due to size, I think Eiflein is still there because some teams might have him penciled in at center and I think that position is underated In terms of depth and talent so we might see two centers go before him. 

[RavensDieHard21]

4 hours ago, ravensnation5220 said:

I just saw a mock draft have us take lattimore, Charles harris, and Isaiah ford.......what a beautiful thing that would be.....one can dream...one can dream

Some of these mocks are just so unrealistic once they get out of the first round lol. They usually try real hard to reason and make sense for the first then they just look at the top 50-100 prospects list and start rattling off perceived needs off the top of their heads. 

[ravensnation5220]

So the San Diego tribune, walterfootball and fox sports all have us picking Marshon lattimore, all these drafts where updated since yesterday. This is a dream come true if he falls

[JoeyFlex5]

1 minute ago, ravensnation5220 said:

So the San Diego tribune, walterfootball and fox sports all have us picking Marshon lattimore, all these drafts where updated since yesterday. This is a dream come true if he falls

He is my dream target I would just be shocked if he's there 

[ravensnation5220]

23 minutes ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

He is my dream target I would just be shocked if he's there 

Ya I agree. But I mean you never know. Some teams could have a preference of a big physical corner like Wilson or Humphrey. It's all a matter of team preference. Either way my top CBs are lattimore, jones, and Humphrey in that order

[RavensDieHard21]

Lattimore could be there because for some odd reason I think a team takes tabor before us because of his "aggressiveness and ball skills"

[gtalk12]

On ‎1‎/‎15‎/‎2017 at 1:37 AM, ravensnation5220 said:

 https://amp.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000690216/article/sources-tell-us-what-were-hearing-about-fsu-rb-dalvin-cook?networkId=4595&site=.news&zone=story&zoneUrl=url%3Dstory&zoneKeys=s1%3Dstory&env=&pageKeyValues=prtnr%3Dcollege-football%3Bplyr%3Djamaal_charles&p.ct=CFB 24%2F7&p.adsm=false&p.tcm=%23ffffff&p.bgc1m=%23000000&sr=amp

That's were the quote came from

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/13252235/dalvin-cook-florida-state-seminoles-strike-woman-attorney-says

And some other info on the topic

The problem here is that it's not just one incident. That's what worries me. Kinda like the Tim Williams problem. It's a repeated off the feild issue with these kids

They are kids, it's time to act like adults and talk to them and straighten them out. I understand that this is something they as young men need to do for themselves however, this is a work environment that rewards it's employers with stellar play...not a model citizen. If this guy is the best available, we can not afford not to pick him up. The same way we passed on Tyronn Mathieu*

[Jacquouille]

I don't see how the Panthers, the Browns, the Saints, the Eagles and the Colts all pass on Lattimore...

[ravensnation5220]

7 minutes ago, gtalk12 said:

They are kids, it's time to act like adults and talk to them and straighten them out. I understand that this is something they as young men need to do for themselves however, this is a work environment that rewards it's employers with stellar play...not a model citizen. If this guy is the best available, we can not afford not to pick him up. The same way we passed on Tyronn Mathieu*

I understand that however I don't see us taking him with these cases against him. The organization already has had turmoil with Ray rice and Terrance Cody(he starved a dog purposely) and Dalvin had charges in both. The PR nightmare that would come with taking cook is not worth the risk in a business aspect. Not with the reputation we have after those 2 

[JoeyFlex5]

51 minutes ago, gtalk12 said:

They are kids, it's time to act like adults and talk to them and straighten them out. I understand that this is something they as young men need to do for themselves however, this is a work environment that rewards it's employers with stellar play...not a model citizen. If this guy is the best available, we can not afford not to pick him up. The same way we passed on Tyronn Mathieu*

My thing isn't "what he did" it's that there's a pattern and a history, bad judgement is worse than a weed, gun, dui, or even assault charge imo(not morally, but from an employers standpoint). Doesn't matter what silly mistakes he makes here and there because they make different mistakes repeatedly and get caught doing it. Bad judgement

[RavensDieHard21]

1 hour ago, Jacquouille said:

I don't see how the Panthers, the Browns, the Saints, the Eagles and the Colts all pass on Lattimore...

Panthers will go BPA, plus thy have an ancient RB and a underwhelming offensive line. 

Browns will likely go Garrett then BPA, Watson still might be there. 

Saints have so many problems on defense that I wouldn't be surprised if they took hooker or Thomas here. 

Eagles have the worst receiving core in the league so I see them taking Davis, Ross or Williams, but sadly corner is there next biggest need. 

Colts desperately need a line and a young back. Wouldn't be surprised if they went pass rusher either. They could reach on Feeny or take Lamp, perhaps Robinson is still there or they go after Tik Williams or Harris. 

[ravensnation5220]

Idk how to get everyone to see it, yet I feel like everyone should look into this because it shocked me. 

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2017/1/25/14374698/what-if-cowboys-had-listened-to-espns-mel-kiper-and-todd-mcshay-in-the-last-7-drafts

In this article is a ranking of teams drafting 1st round prospects from 2010-2016 and who nailed their picks, it uses AV (approximate value) to determine the rankings. The ravens.....are 32 on the list. That's last folks.....

We nailed Stanley so this ranking should change as long as he lives up to his potential and as long as we nail our 1st round pick this year. 

Edited January 27 by ravensnation5220

[RaineV1]

52 minutes ago, ravensnation5220 said:

Idk how to get everyone to see it, yet I feel like everyone should look into this because it shocked me. 

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2017/1/25/14374698/what-if-cowboys-had-listened-to-espns-mel-kiper-and-todd-mcshay-in-the-last-7-drafts

In this article is a ranking of teams drafting 1st round prospects from 2010-2016 and who nailed their picks, it uses AV (approximate value) to determine the rankings. The ravens.....are 32 on the list. That's last folks.....

We nailed Stanley so this ranking should change as long as he lives up to his potential and as long as we nail our 1st round pick this year. 

The rating will also get more positive as Perriman improves.

[RavensDieHard21]

2 hours ago, RaineV1 said:

The rating will also get more positive as Perriman improves.

Well if he improves anyway lol, but our first rounders or first selections have been tough. Kindle, Jimmy being banged up every other week, Upshaw, Elam, God bless Mosley, Perriman due to injury is too early to tell and Stanley looks to be a good talent. 

If we nail this first pick and Perriman and Stanley develop then the narrative can change quick.

[arnie_uk]

Who have we drafted in that time? Stanley mosley perriman elam and then of course trading back after not trading up for dez or selecting Alshon Jeffrey and picking upshaw