Who/What Was the #1 Top Reason For Missing Playoffs?

[Purple_City39]

2 hours ago, Tru11 said:

if you make more plays during the first 3 quarters , you don't have to worry when its the 4th quarter.

The Falcons proved you always have to worry in the 4th quarter, even if you make a bunch of plays in the first 3.

The 9ers almost taught the Ravens a similar lesson a few years back.

[RayRayRaven]

On ‎2‎/‎2‎/‎2017 at 10:28 AM, Purple_City39 said:

I don't get this line of thinking.  The 2012 defense was average at best all year.  The 49ers are tied for the NFL record for most points scored in a superbowl loss.  Did Ray not inspire the players that played next to him?  And will we also ignore that players have come out and said Ray's words don't do much for them?  I know Flacco himself has said it and he was the MVP of that superbowl run easily.  Defenders have said it also, like McAlister years ago for example.

Harbaugh's team won that superbowl regardless.  Only 5 members were part of Billick's regime (Yanda, Suggs, Ray, Ed, and Koch).  And we're apparently going to ignore the injured teams since Ray's departure that were a game short of being in the playoffs (2013), barely lost the divisional round to the eventual champs (2014), and heavily injured (2015).  Let's also act like the Ravens never missed the playoffs 3 of 4 years when Ray was rah rah'ing it up all game long and in his prime (2002-2005).

da difference was playmakas and finishin bend ddont brake now we got a bunch of d wonderin who wil make da play.  anyone thinkin the current d in anyways compares with the 2008 to 2012 d doan know football and shuld watch math wiz where stats matta

On ‎2‎/‎1‎/‎2017 at 10:14 PM, frozen joe flacco fan said:

I find your post amusing. While Ray was not playing at full strength the year we won the Super Bowl and was certainly past his peak, he was an inspiration to his teammates on and off the field. That's an intangible. His leadership and inspiration was highly motivational for the team and they rode the crest of an emotional wave to and thru the SB.

As for John getting the most out of his players every week, he did just the opposite this year. Most of our fan base assumed we would be in the playoffs in 2016 and predicted a winning season. The team under-achieved this year and he failed miserably to get the most out of his players in the last four weeks of the season when our record was 1-3. With our destiny in our own hands and a record of 8-6 at the time, he failed to get the most out of his players in the last two weeks of the season. The truth is this. John Harbaugh and Mike Tomlin are good cheerleaders but neither is a Top Five coach. I disagree that he would have his pick of NFL head coaching positions if he left the Ravens. Jim Harbaugh wasn't in big demand when he left the Niners. He might have his pick of cheerleading squads though.

ray ray was a motivata no doubt he struggled some in the champions game specially afta ngata went out but look at his denva game where he balled out.  opinonions really doan matta results matta but some l ike math wiz

 

On ‎2‎/‎2‎/‎2017 at 11:24 AM, Tank 92 said:

Yeah, I think the preaching and such may have helped the young guys for a bit when they first came on board, but after a while thinking it just became a nod of the head and jumping around, but not really listening. I remember Joe saying once that he didn't even know what Ray was talking about half the time. 

Ray Lewis was a great football player, but his motivational effects on the team were greatly exaggerated, not just by him but by others as well. 

yah heard branden willams tryin to motivate the gang a few times. was so bad made me cry

On ‎2‎/‎20‎/‎2017 at 4:49 PM, JoeyFlex5 said:

We have to blame people! Heads must roll!

yah but not lowly head its time for the French revolotuion

On ‎2‎/‎22‎/‎2017 at 7:36 AM, berad said:

Agreeing with you up until this point.

The Ravens had a very good rate at avoiding 3-and-outs. Of their 192 drives, only 35 ended in a 3-and-out, which is an 18.23% rate and good for 6th best in the league (LINK). That's in front of teams like the Packers, Cowboys, Steelers, and even the Patriots who were bottom 6.

Also, the Ravens had a positive TOP on the year and were above-average (12th overall) for the league (LINK). The defense blowing leads had less to do with the offense and was more on their own failings. Losing Jimmy Smith really seemed to tank that unit and Pees could not adjust adequately - didn't help that some prolific offense came through, too.

the d suckd no playmakas late in the game always gassed outta fuel, alttidude and ideas all at the same time crash

On ‎3‎/‎29‎/‎2017 at 9:14 PM, OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL said:

What Ray Ray had you cant teach....Heart.....its what Buck refers to as "want to", and an ibtangible we should be seeking in the draft....Boldin had it too

sur enough dem were da days cant get em back but wont forget em. chemistry is a wondaful thing its like fresh straberries you luckt  to have em even when ur pickers doan know how they got em

[OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL]

Is the 2015 Ravens draft class the reason we did not make the playoffs last year?

I was reading the press box article of the unsuccessful 2015 Ravens draft class, and I saw some commentary from it that spoke volumes to me, here is the excerpt paragraph:

 

"More than once last season, first with departed Marc Trestman and then later with current offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg, Flacco pleaded for the team to get more aggressive with deep throws."

I honestly think this comment speaks to where Joe is as a leader on this team. 

Why can Joe not check out of plays, and call a deep route, (we know damn skippy that Rodgers would, Brady would, even Rivers, Ryan probably Stafford too),

At a certain point, if you are the highest paid player on the team, and you think a deep play call is in order, and now I am guessing this has been the case often now, why are you standing by and not doing anything about it? 

This offseason has to be working on play calls that fit the offensive pieces you have, not more of square peg in round hole. The offensive straregy must improve, not CHECKDOWN EVERY PLAY,

We became very predictable last year, and rarely used the entire route tree. 

 

 

[trevorsteadman]

12 hours ago, OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL said:

Is the 2015 Ravens draft class the reason we did not make the playoffs last year?

I was reading the press box article of the unsuccessful 2015 Ravens draft class, and I saw some commentary from it that spoke volumes to me, here is the excerpt paragraph:

 

"More than once last season, first with departed Marc Trestman and then later with current offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg, Flacco pleaded for the team to get more aggressive with deep throws."

I honestly think this comment speaks to where Joe is as a leader on this team. 

Why can Joe not check out of plays, and call a deep route, (we know damn skippy that Rodgers would, Brady would, even Rivers, Ryan probably Stafford too),

At a certain point, if you are the highest paid player on the team, and you think a deep play call is in order, and now I am guessing this has been the case often now, why are you standing by and not doing anything about it? 

This offseason has to be working on play calls that fit the offensive pieces you have, not more of square peg in round hole. The offensive straregy must improve, not CHECKDOWN EVERY PLAY,

We became very predictable last year, and rarely used the entire route tree. 

 

 

It was less a Flacco issue and more of an offense issue. Didn't seem like anything in the playbook called for a deep pass. Even on a last attempt to win a game with seconds left the team checked it down to Pitta. If you are going to blame someone blame Trestman. He used to play in an offense with Forte, Marshall, and Jeffery where those players are talented and physically gifted enough to run screens and check downs 90% of the plays and win those. Little did he know he was working with no named running backs, a 37 year old coming off of an achilles tear, and a tight end who has a wish bone for a hip.

[Mahatma_Sloth]

offensive play calling... 'nuff said

[Virginia 55]

This  draft should end all the Flacco debates, outside of maybe one draft they have done nothing to put a team around him.  They obviously dont think he is good enough to build a team around.  They elected to stop teams and find a true leader on defense.  

 

So I think Flacco goes at the end of his contract. Or sooner if we get a trade partner. 

Edited Sunday at 09:55 AM by Virginia 55

[Tank 92]

35 minutes ago, Virginia 55 said:

This  draft should end all the Flacco debates, outside of maybe one draft they have done nothing to put a team around him.  They obviously dont think he is good enough to build a team around.  They elected to stop teams and find a true leader on defense.  

 

So I think Flacco goes at the end of his contract. Or sooner if we get a trade partner. 

 

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!    

 

                      

[RayRayRaven]

3 hours ago, Virginia 55 said:

This  draft should end all the Flacco debates, outside of maybe one draft they have done nothing to put a team around him.  They obviously dont think he is good enough to build a team around.  They elected to stop teams and find a true leader on defense.  

 

So I think Flacco goes at the end of his contract. Or sooner if we get a trade partner. 

the same thought here not getting him a thang so far.  the draff was just surreal the firse pic is debilitatin jus canna even recova from that in the head. how good the otha pics are is a puzzle becuz they were picd out of projectshon gonna have to look at em again.  did we get some pass rush? maybe did we get some covarage? no we didna.  if ur gonna toss ur firse pic like that and send ur self towards a rebuilt why not trade joe. understan you doan know how they are gonna pic and tradin joe and comin away with humpf and not litty is not gonna work.  its crazy

[arnie_uk]

5 hours ago, Virginia 55 said:

This  draft should end all the Flacco debates, outside of maybe one draft they have done nothing to put a team around him.  They obviously dont think he is good enough to build a team around.  They elected to stop teams and find a true leader on defense.  

 

So I think Flacco goes at the end of his contract. Or sooner if we get a trade partner. 

So you accept that flacco has nothing to work with? That's good you admit that after your constant bashing of him

[Cville-Raven]

Trestman, Flacco, and certain players around him prevented us from winning a number of very winnable games in the first 8 games. Joe really needs to fix his game, better talent at WR or not. Late in the season we lost because the defense couldn't stop the run at all or get to the QB. 

Edited Sunday at 05:28 PM by Cville-Raven

[Tank 92]

Fact remains.......it was Brown.   ha

[flynismo]

- Lack of a consistent pass rush. We got a lot of coverage sacks last year; and no surprise then that the entire defense went down the toilet after Jimmy got hurt.

- Lack of a consistent run game. Primary, but not the only, reason for this was our OC.

- Flacco still not being physically or mentally recovered, despite his words otherwise.

 

The first and third bullet points shouldn't be an issue this season. It remains to be seen what goes on with the run game. We will need a strong one this season, given the defense we've assembled and the question marks we still have at WR.