[News] Ravens Defense Wants To End On A High Note After Recent Struggles

[BR News]

Baltimore’s unit has had a tough three-game stretch, but wants to rebound in the season finale in Cincinnati. The Ravens can still finish as the NFL’s top run-stopping team.

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[The Greek]

pees has been around for a long time and is a good coordinator but he does not have the killer instinct. including the superbowl which was almost blown the defense under pees has blown several games with the lead in the 4th qtr. no way should pittsburgh have scored 3 td's in the 4th qtr. including the last drive with about a minute left. im sure he will be back but i personally feel it is time to move on. pagano if he is canned, todd bowles if canned, gus bradley could be options.

[omar586]

whatever.

[Militant X 1]

So now ya'll want to end on a high note? 

[ellicottraven]

So now ya'll want to end on a high note? 

Yes they do and why not?!? They stunk up the joint in the past couple of games so give them a chance at redemption will you?

[sizzlingdoom]

pees has been around for a long time and is a good coordinator but he does not have the killer instinct. including the superbowl which was almost blown the defense under pees has blown several games with the lead in the 4th qtr. no way should pittsburgh have scored 3 td's in the 4th qtr. including the last drive with about a minute left. im sure he will be back but i personally feel it is time to move on. pagano if he is canned, todd bowles if canned, gus bradley could be options.

He absolutely cannot close games. I like those options. I sincerely feel like Harbaugh cost us at least 3-4 games this year with some of the worst coaching I've ever seen. Really sucks I don't think Steve will pull the trigger on either of them, but I hope he does

[sizzlingdoom]

then cut wright for crying out loud. how embarrassing Harabugh

[sizzlingdoom]

whatever.

my feelings as well

[Ravensfansince03]

In reference to this articles headline. It's about what you do when everything is on the line. Not what you do when your season is already over from lack of performance

[Ravensfansince03]

This articles headline sounds like an organization with a losing mentality. Almost as if they've become acceptable to losing. Our defensive line got manhandled against Pittsburgh, point blank. Get people outta here and get us some dogs that hunt please.

[OzzieBisciotti]

No offense but I think way too much is being made of our "#1 defense." I think the point that needs to be recognized is that we played an easy schedule this year because of our terrible losing record last year- so does playing much inferior teams, where the majority of our wins came from teams with losing records, really make our defense that good? No because our defense looked good because we played so many teams with losing records so technically I'd argue that our defense wouldn't be #1 if we played more avg teams or teams with winning records. I think this #1 defense statement is highly misleading because when you look under the band aids, you'll see that the defense doesn't impose it's will on anyone like the old days and that we still have third tier corners starting for us and an old corner (webb) who should be at home watching games on Sundays.

[Rav'n Maniac]

Yeah, we all want the D to end on a high note as well. Can and will they deliver is the question.

[jsarrocohome@yahoo.com]

Want to end on a high note leave Pees ,Elam and wright home sunday

[jsarrocohome@yahoo.com]

No offense but I think way too much is being made of our "#1 defense." I think the point that needs to be recognized is that we played an easy schedule this year because of our terrible losing record last year- so does playing much inferior teams, where the majority of our wins came from teams with losing records, really make our defense that good? No because our defense looked good because we played so many teams with losing records so technically I'd argue that our defense wouldn't be #1 if we played more avg teams or teams with winning records. I think this #1 defense statement is highly misleading because when you look under the band aids, you'll see that the defense doesn't impose it's will on anyone like the old days and that we still have third tier corners starting for us and an old corner (webb) who should be at home watching games on Sundays.

our D is not Rated #1

[Derrel]

  2 hours ago, OzzieBisciotti said:

No offense but I think way too much is being made of our "#1 defense." I think the point that needs to be recognized is that we played an easy schedule this year because of our terrible losing record last year- so does playing much inferior teams, where the majority of our wins came from teams with losing records, really make our defense that good? No because our defense looked good because we played so many teams with losing records so technically I'd argue that our defense wouldn't be #1 if we played more avg teams or teams with winning records. I think this #1 defense statement is highly misleading because when you look under the band aids, you'll see that the defense doesn't impose it's will on anyone like the old days and that we still have third tier corners starting for us and an old corner (webb) who should be at home watching games on Sundays.

our D is not Rated #1

our D was good against poor teams and couldn't stand up against Cowboys, Pats, Steelers, Redskins and Giants.

[Derrel]

Weddle didn't deliver on the most important play of the season. He talks alot but didn't bring much this year. There's always a reason teams walk away as SD did with him. Maybe a slight upgrade over last year but not good enough. Does he stay?

[BiggMack91]

fire dean let williams leave cut wright powers guy an doomerville start over fresh use are first 2 picks in the draft for CB an a true pass rusher put suggs in on the line where guy was let judon and the next best rusher start at LB an you will see an improvement we need fresh legs at LB an suggs an doom aint it suggs is big enough to play inside plus that would only mean he's going forward every play witch would Improve his numbers an playmaking our secondary needs to also let webb go his time has come and gone an his cap # is way more than he's worth we need a new young secondary we need to draft 3 CB an coach them up no more bringing in old vets its been like putting a bandaid or a 4 inch laceration we got younger in a lot of places now its time for a new young CB tandom they can all come in together an learn the system together remember the legion of boom we can have our own version in 2-4 years an i would love it but in all reality the ravens will probably keep dean and put more bandaids on the defense an giving up games in the fourth

[BigUgly]

We have a big decision to make with Doom next year, as he will be owed over $8M (and would save us $6M if cut).  He says he's finally healthy; I'd view this final game as a decision point for next year.  When healthy, he is a better pass rusher than anyone on the team not named Suggs (though Judon has some potential).  Sizzle and Yanda should go in for surgery for their ailments so they have time to heal fully for Harbs' make-or-break 2017 campaign.

[mearzunkies]

No offense but I think way too much is being made of our "#1 defense." I think the point that needs to be recognized is that we played an easy schedule this year because of our terrible losing record last year- so does playing much inferior teams, where the majority of our wins came from teams with losing records, really make our defense that good? No because our defense looked good because we played so many teams with losing records so technically I'd argue that our defense wouldn't be #1 if we played more avg teams or teams with winning records. I think this #1 defense statement is highly misleading because when you look under the band aids, you'll see that the defense doesn't impose it's will on anyone like the old days and that we still have third tier corners starting for us and an old corner (webb) who should be at home watching games on Sundays.

Look at how those teams REALLY faired. They actually played a challenging schedule. I'd guess mid level in the league.

[TheConquerorWorm]

  9 hours ago, OzzieBisciotti said:

No offense but I think way too much is being made of our "#1 defense." I think the point that needs to be recognized is that we played an easy schedule this year because of our terrible losing record last year- so does playing much inferior teams, where the majority of our wins came from teams with losing records, really make our defense that good? No because our defense looked good because we played so many teams with losing records so technically I'd argue that our defense wouldn't be #1 if we played more avg teams or teams with winning records. I think this #1 defense statement is highly misleading because when you look under the band aids, you'll see that the defense doesn't impose it's will on anyone like the old days and that we still have third tier corners starting for us and an old corner (webb) who should be at home watching games on Sundays.

Look at how those teams REALLY faired. They actually played a challenging schedule. I'd guess mid level in the league.

They played the Top 3 teams in the NFL and 7 games against teams in the play-offs (8 if Washington makes it). Playing half your schedule against play-off teams is pretty tough.

[jsarrocohome@yahoo.com]

  2 hours ago, mearzunkies said:

  10 hours ago, OzzieBisciotti said:

No offense but I think way too much is being made of our "#1 defense." I think the point that needs to be recognized is that we played an easy schedule this year because of our terrible losing record last year- so does playing much inferior teams, where the majority of our wins came from teams with losing records, really make our defense that good? No because our defense looked good because we played so many teams with losing records so technically I'd argue that our defense wouldn't be #1 if we played more avg teams or teams with winning records. I think this #1 defense statement is highly misleading because when you look under the band aids, you'll see that the defense doesn't impose it's will on anyone like the old days and that we still have third tier corners starting for us and an old corner (webb) who should be at home watching games on Sundays.

Look at how those teams REALLY faired. They actually played a challenging schedule. I'd guess mid level in the league.

They played the Top 3 teams in the NFL and 7 games against teams in the play-offs (8 if Washington makes it). Playing half your schedule against play-off teams is pretty tough.

A tough schedule is no excuse to lose good teams that are well coached find ways to win

[Fastynart]

Struggles? Seriously? How about total collapse? That would more adequately describe this go awful defensive performance. Oh yeah, they are playing for "character". Well, two Bengals TDs in two possessions is really showing "character" isn't it? That coupled with Flacco's ineffectiveness against Cincinnati is resulting in an embarrassment.

[mrc724]

Here we go again, no offense or defense. The two coordinators have to go. We need a wide receiver coach who can teach the receivers on how get open. Why are we not jamming receivers off the line of scrimmage. There always seems like most of the other teams receivers are wide open in the middle of the field. Please, please hire some innovative young coaches. Pees plays not too lose, he needs to go, get some college assistants.

I didn't know the Statue of Liberty to Baltimore, oh that's Joe Flacko. He has no pocket presence. He just stands there and gets sacked. It's time for the Ravens to move on from Flacko.

 

21 hours ago, jsarrocohome@yahoo.com said:

22 hours ago, TheConquerorWorm said:

  22 hours ago, mearzunkies said:

  On ‎12‎/‎31‎/‎2016 at 8:26 AM, OzzieBisciotti said:

No offense but I think way too much is being made of our "#1 defense." I think the point that needs to be recognized is that we played an easy schedule this year because of our terrible losing record last year- so does playing much inferior teams, where the majority of our wins came from teams with losing records, really make our defense that good? No because our defense looked good because we played so many teams with losing records so technically I'd argue that our defense wouldn't be #1 if we played more avg teams or teams with winning records. I think this #1 defense statement is highly misleading because when you look under the band aids, you'll see that the defense doesn't impose it's will on anyone like the old days and that we still have third tier corners starting for us and an old corner (webb) who should be at home watching games on Sundays.

Look at how those teams REALLY faired. They actually played a challenging schedule. I'd guess mid level in the league.

They played the Top 3 teams in the NFL and 7 games against teams in the play-offs (8 if Washington makes it). Playing half your schedule against play-off teams is pretty tough.

A tough schedule is no excuse to lose good teams that are well coached find ways to win

I agree, the Ravens need to hire good coaches. Should we start from the top. I watch Harbaughs news conferences, they are cute, no substance, all he does is smile. He needs to start kicking butt, like Mike Tomlin. Everyone has injuries, suck it up, make do, no more injury excuses.

 

22 hours ago, TheConquerorWorm said:

23 hours ago, mearzunkies said:

  On ‎12‎/‎31‎/‎2016 at 8:26 AM, OzzieBisciotti said:

No offense but I think way too much is being made of our "#1 defense." I think the point that needs to be recognized is that we played an easy schedule this year because of our terrible losing record last year- so does playing much inferior teams, where the majority of our wins came from teams with losing records, really make our defense that good? No because our defense looked good because we played so many teams with losing records so technically I'd argue that our defense wouldn't be #1 if we played more avg teams or teams with winning records. I think this #1 defense statement is highly misleading because when you look under the band aids, you'll see that the defense doesn't impose it's will on anyone like the old days and that we still have third tier corners starting for us and an old corner (webb) who should be at home watching games on Sundays.

Look at how those teams REALLY faired. They actually played a challenging schedule. I'd guess mid level in the league.

They played the Top 3 teams in the NFL and 7 games against teams in the play-offs (8 if Washington makes it). Playing half your schedule against play-off teams is pretty tough.

Stop making excuses, the Ravens need to be tough. Look at the Steelers schedule, they won the division. We lost to the Jets, made Fitzpatrick look like an all-pro, he's been benched. We have leadership or intensity.

 

On 12/31/2016 at 10:51 AM, Derrel said:

On 12/31/2016 at 10:21 AM, jsarrocohome@yahoo.com said:

  On ‎12‎/‎31‎/‎2016 at 8:26 AM, OzzieBisciotti said:

No offense but I think way too much is being made of our "#1 defense." I think the point that needs to be recognized is that we played an easy schedule this year because of our terrible losing record last year- so does playing much inferior teams, where the majority of our wins came from teams with losing records, really make our defense that good? No because our defense looked good because we played so many teams with losing records so technically I'd argue that our defense wouldn't be #1 if we played more avg teams or teams with winning records. I think this #1 defense statement is highly misleading because when you look under the band aids, you'll see that the defense doesn't impose it's will on anyone like the old days and that we still have third tier corners starting for us and an old corner (webb) who should be at home watching games on Sundays.

our D is not Rated #1

our D was good against poor teams and couldn't stand up against Cowboys, Pats, Steelers, Redskins and Giants.

I agree.

 

On 12/31/2016 at 8:06 AM, Ravensfansince03 said:

This articles headline sounds like an organization with a losing mentality. Almost as if they've become acceptable to losing. Our defensive line got manhandled against Pittsburgh, point blank. Get people outta here and get us some dogs that hunt please.

Who is the genius who keeps undersized halfback into a stacked defense. Good bye Morningweg, you are no better the last OC, get some imagination. Get rid of Statue of Liberty Flacko's security blankets. If the young receiver can't get open, they need to go. Newsome needs to do a better job of evaluating talent, this organization is really going downhill. No more, "In Ozzie We Trust".

 

On 12/31/2016 at 4:46 AM, sizzlingdoom said:

On 12/30/2016 at 3:29 PM, The Greek said:

pees has been around for a long time and is a good coordinator but he does not have the killer instinct. including the superbowl which was almost blown the defense under pees has blown several games with the lead in the 4th qtr. no way should pittsburgh have scored 3 td's in the 4th qtr. including the last drive with about a minute left. im sure he will be back but i personally feel it is time to move on. pagano if he is canned, todd bowles if canned, gus bradley could be options.

He absolutely cannot close games. I like those options. I sincerely feel like Harbaugh cost us at least 3-4 games this year with some of the worst coaching I've ever seen. Really sucks I don't think Steve will pull the trigger on either of them, but I hope he does

Lets get one of them, goodbye, Pees. He didn't do anything with the Colts.

 

On 12/31/2016 at 4:46 AM, sizzlingdoom said:

On 12/30/2016 at 3:29 PM, The Greek said:

pees has been around for a long time and is a good coordinator but he does not have the killer instinct. including the superbowl which was almost blown the defense under pees has blown several games with the lead in the 4th qtr. no way should pittsburgh have scored 3 td's in the 4th qtr. including the last drive with about a minute left. im sure he will be back but i personally feel it is time to move on. pagano if he is canned, todd bowles if canned, gus bradley could be options.

He absolutely cannot close games. I like those options. I sincerely feel like Harbaugh cost us at least 3-4 games this year with some of the worst coaching I've ever seen. Really sucks I don't think Steve will pull the trigger on either of them, but I hope he does

He plays too much prevent defense, old school. Prevent defenses prevent defense prevent you from winning, almost lost to Philly that way. I think Harbaugh needs more intensity. Bring in Ray Lewis.

[chappies746]

We need to Fire DC and OC.  Give Harbough one more season but management isn't going to like to have back to back losing seasons.  Let Wright (can't guard a snail), Webb (paid to much to suck), Jimmy Smith (who getting paid but can't stay healthy ever), and Suggs go and bring in players who want to play for some money.  Pees defensive schemes are horrible.  Bring back Rex Ryan as DC and Norv Turner as OC.

[mrc724]

So now ya'll want to end on a high note? 

It didn't happen, the Ravens need to get younger. I still say Harbaugh is from the George Allen school of coaching, veterans only.