APPRECIATION THREAD: Joe Flacco was a couple of possessions away from being in 4 Superbowls in 8 years!!!!

[allblackraven]

20 hours ago, RayRayRaven said:

joe got a deal where they spected xactly that!  if joe was costin 10 mill a yr, (maybes his truth value), maybe less problem

well mat ice ryan is a big ticket qb too. pricey. but hes earnin  closer to it

nope jus sayin if 2014 was as good as it gets the real value is defanitly trade value.  wasn't disagreein that the kubiak yr was one of joes better yrs. jus that he did not excell even then.  his best yr was like 2010 but neither good nuff to pay like we pay. as goes the pats they wuld have found a way to beat us fur sur. they always do. cept when we had our superstars. doan remember 2014 being the uge injury yr, that was 2015, but we was down in the secondary. had nothing. maybe we a lick better there now.

hate to be the bringer of bad news, but anyone thinkin joe is leadin us on is sererious hopin. id take a first and second for him in a ny minute but I kno we can get two 1's if we don't delay. sam darnold is out there and id hate to mis him

Intriguing.

I'm having hard time to decide what's more deplorable here - thinking or grammar.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

31 minutes ago, allblackraven said:

Intriguing.

I'm having hard time to decide what's more deplorable here - thinking or grammar.

 

Cash me outside... 

[RayRayRaven]

On ‎2‎/‎2‎/‎2017 at 10:47 PM, usmccharles said:

Pweease, sho me ani link, souyrce, quote from anything ckredible than yo boy at da ba down da streeeet

the only beer I drink is rootbeer I told you that

[RayRayRaven]

12 hours ago, allblackraven said:

Intriguing.

I'm having hard time to decide what's more deplorable here - thinking or grammar.

since the super bowl have we really missed the playofs three of the last four ? you know since the superstars left?  its not like we evah were a 14-2 team. we'd scrap by with joe to 10-6 cuple 12-4 years an that was with a loaded D.  LOADED. now we got players no one else wants cept for joe. but at his best joe was a getyouby qb.  he could play well enough to get you by. im drinkin the root beer but somes are drinkin the joe kool ade. all I want is to get somethin for the rebuilt

Edited February 4 by RayRayRaven

[usmccharles]

10 hours ago, RayRayRaven said:

the only beer I drink is rootbeer I told you that

i was simply asking for a link to the source of information you provided, ya know...proof.  But why should that ever be a basis of your points

[Swift 1]

Why is this thread titled  appreciation thread"?

 

[ThatsMyJoeTerback]

4 minutes ago, Swift 1 said:

Why is this thread titled  appreciation thread"?

 

Because some people have the brains to be grateful for a QB who brings stability to a franchise when many franchises don't have that stability.

[Swift 1]

5 minutes ago, ThatsMyJoeTerback said:

Because some people have the brains to be grateful for a QB who brings stability to a franchise when many franchises don't have that stability.

I must of missed the post where somebody said they appreciated  Fllacco. I guess I will have to read the seven pages again to find it. Maybe I will save me the trouble and count you.'LTN' and me as the ones with brains. LOL

 

[Swift 1]

OOPS I forgot The MARINE  SEmper FI

 

[ellicottraven]

This really still an active thread? smh

[flynismo]

On 2/3/2017 at 3:35 PM, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

I don't have time for this....

@flynismo

 

deal with this? Please? For me?

Sorry bud, this is why I tend to disappear during the offseason haha...

[flynismo]

Look, the fact that the OP just wanted to show some appreciation for one of our players, only to have it derailed by the usual trolls with the same lame "arguments" says a lot about those people, and nothing about Joe.

Yawn...

[Rav'n Maniac]

Oh my, now he's Pretty Boy Joe! Aren't we all jealous?

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/The-Caw-Joe-Flacco-Is-The-NFLs-Most-Attractive-Player/0690cae5-7419-40ca-aa51-49323f7b4ab0

Edited February 10 by Rav'n Maniac

[JoeyFlex5]

On 2/4/2017 at 6:56 AM, RayRayRaven said:

since the super bowl have we really missed the playofs three of the last four ? you know since the superstars left?  its not like we evah were a 14-2 team. we'd scrap by with joe to 10-6 cuple 12-4 years an that was with a loaded D.  LOADED. now we got players no one else wants cept for joe. but at his best joe was a getyouby qb.  he could play well enough to get you by. im drinkin the root beer but somes are drinkin the joe kool ade. all I want is to get somethin for the rebuilt

14-2? thats rare. be realistic. try to remember all of those loaded Ds that gave up wins that joe earned.

[usmccharles]

12 hours ago, JoeyFlex5 said:

14-2? thats rare. be realistic. try to remember all of those loaded Ds that gave up wins that joe earned.

No,  you have to forget when Joe actually won games for us,  like the SB for example.... 

[stampedehero]

 This is the only site where anyone will defend JF.  It should have been Boldin in the route instead of Evans  We win.  No need for Cardiff to blow it

2014  The D failed on that trick play to the wide out  and this year we should have scored a TD rather than a FG  and also made a FG in the Steelers game

I blame it ALL on COACHING.  Hate to admit this but Bellichick has it all over everyone else.  

[JoeyFlex5]

On 2/12/2017 at 10:22 AM, stampedehero said:

 This is the only site where anyone will defend JF.  It should have been Boldin in the route instead of Evans  We win.  No need for Cardiff to blow it

2014  The D failed on that trick play to the wide out  and this year we should have scored a TD rather than a FG  and also made a FG in the Steelers game

I blame it ALL on COACHING.  Hate to admit this but Bellichick has it all over everyone else.  

Well, we actually watch him play unlike many others. Also plenty of analysts who actually know football, like former qbs Jaworski and esiason and Phil Simms, former qb coaches like mooch, and other respected analysts like Chris berman, all like flacco quite a bit and understand when his team lets his down, which happens far more often than the inverse.

[Wisdom]

On 2/4/2017 at 7:00 PM, ThatsMyJoeTerback said:

Because some people have the brains to be grateful for a QB who brings stability to a franchise when many franchises don't have that stability.

Really.  What you called stability many of us see as nothing more than greed and mediocrity.   Stability at what?  Losing? or simply checking the box at the QB position?  Speaking of stability, Ray Lewis and Ed Reed, made the Ravens what they were prior to the advent of Flacco and his side kick Pitta. Now, it like watching a circus w/ a QB who is only in it for his own self serving purposes.      

[Ravenseconbeast]

Joe Flacco would own NFL's highest cap figure if Tony Romo is cut or traded

 

http://www.espn.com/blog/baltimore-ravens/post/_/id/33863/joe-flacco-would-own-nfls-highest-cap-figure-if-tony-romo-is-cut-or-traded

Enjoy the discussion Flacco fans!  

Let me get your take on your opinion.

 

[Tank 92]

smh.....

[Ravenseconbeast]

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baltimore-sports-blog/bal-for-ravens-joe-flacco-to-dennis-pitta-a-recipe-for-failed-completions-in-2016-20170222-story.html

Here is one for you Tank92.  Make sure to read the facts!

[Tank 92]

43 minutes ago, Ravenseconbeast said:

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baltimore-sports-blog/bal-for-ravens-joe-flacco-to-dennis-pitta-a-recipe-for-failed-completions-in-2016-20170222-story.html

Here is one for you Tank92.  Make sure to read the facts!

Thanks for enlightening me. In reading this it seems the facts point to the obvious(to most) reasons for sub par passing game performance. Poor receivers, lack of YAC, conservative play calling and injuries. 

[Militant X 1]

On 2/2/2017 at 11:13 PM, ellicottraven said:

The best way to judge a QB is to ask the people that don't have vested rooted interests how they feel about the QB. Sadly, the majority of football fans don't think Joe is half as good as some of us Ravens homers do. But, I think a good number of former blind Flacco homers are slowly coming around to the idea that Flacco may not be an elite or even a top 7-8 QB after all.

That is the truth!

On 2/3/2017 at 0:48 AM, Ravenseconbeast said:

I got into 2week argument with constant harassment saying the exact thing during his contract FA year.  

Now its a complete waste of time.  We should not have giveb him the money and simply have him test the market.

His wallet and his $ is getting bigger but he is taking the team the wrong way.  

I wish this forum was less one-sided and had more fans that cared about the actual team as a WHOLE.  But nope.

Too much bangwagon fans that jumped shiped and they dictated this failure campaign to make Ravens a losing organization.  

I've learned a long time ago that you can't judge the ENTIRE Ravens fan base off a few cats in here. 

[Tru11]

6 hours ago, Tank 92 said:

Thanks for enlightening me. In reading this it seems the facts point to the obvious(to most) reasons for sub par passing game performance. Poor receivers, lack of YAC, conservative play calling and injuries. 

So Wallace and SSS are now poor receivers?

 

[The Raven]

On 2/2/2017 at 11:13 PM, ellicottraven said:

The best way to judge a QB is to ask the people that don't have vested rooted interests how they feel about the QB. Sadly, the majority of football fans don't think Joe is half as good as some of us Ravens homers do. But, I think a good number of former blind Flacco homers are slowly coming around to the idea that Flacco may not be an elite or even a top 7-8 QB after all.

Speaking for myself, a lot of my unyielding Flacco homerism came not from his current play, but from where I thought he was heading. I think that explains my current frustration with Joe. When I saw his progression from 2010-2012, and then he had that playoff run, I thought he was truly going to be a top five guy. But it looks plainly like he's regressed since 2014. I do think that is due in large part to his crap supporting cast, but Flacco's crappy footwork and lazy throwing motion aren't the fault of anyone but himself.

[The Raven]

7 hours ago, Tank 92 said:

Thanks for enlightening me. In reading this it seems the facts point to the obvious(to most) reasons for sub par passing game performance. Poor receivers, lack of YAC, conservative play calling and injuries. 

Yeah. I second this, but I'll put an emphasis on the conservative play calling. Until Trestman and Marty got here, I never saw any offensive coordinator call so many five yard patterns. I'll also say that, when I was watching the playoffs, I saw a lot of receivers getting YAC. And ya know, I didn't realize how wide spread it was. Lots of teams have receivers that get YAC. Makes me wonder why we don't.

[ellicottraven]

6 minutes ago, The Raven said:

Speaking for myself, a lot of my unyielding Flacco homerism came not from his current play, but from where I thought he was heading. I think that explains my current frustration with Joe. When I saw his progression from 2010-2012, and then he had that playoff run, I thought he was truly going to be a top five guy. But it looks plainly like he's regressed since 2014. I do think that is due in large part to his crap supporting cast, but Flacco's crappy footwork and lazy throwing motion aren't the fault of anyone but himself.

I think he regressed starting 2013. Kubiak's offense and scheme and strong running game just covered for Joe Flacco's football intelligence. Yes it does boil down to that. I think he's got the arm, but he's got really bad footwork and consequently is inaccurate. But, most important factor is his inability to read defenses. He gets entrapped too often by smart defenders.

[The Raven]

2 minutes ago, ellicottraven said:

I think he regressed starting 2013. Kubiak's offense and scheme and strong running game just covered for Joe Flacco's football intelligence. Yes it does boil down to that. I think he's got the arm, but he's got really bad footwork and consequently is inaccurate. But, most important factor is his inability to read defenses. He gets entrapped too often by smart defenders.

See, this is the part where Flacco critics frustrate me. Who are we as message board nerds -- who oftentimes don't watch the All-22 tape -- to question the football intelligence and defense reading of someone who actually made it to the NFL? It's not as if the TV view even shows the defensive coverage. I know he's not even close to the best mind -- that's fair to say -- but what credibility do we have to judge it? Do you watch the All-22 tape? Can you tell me what coverage shell a defense is in on a given play? Because if you're going to definitively say that Flacco can't read a defense, you should be able to tell me what you saw in the defense. Otherwise, where is your credibility?

When I have time to watch the All-22, I don't question Joe's ability to read a defense or his intelligence. I question his decision making. A lot of times, he holds the ball, waiting for the big play. Then he forces passes or takes unnecessary risks.

He's not a WCO passer. He doesn't throw the ball in rhythm. He doesn't throw the ball on the break like other QBs do. He waits. And that results in a lot of check downs, picks, and incompletions down the field.

[Tru11]

14 minutes ago, The Raven said:

See, this is the part where Flacco critics frustrate me. Who are we as message board nerds -- who oftentimes don't watch the All-22 tape -- to question the football intelligence and defense reading of someone who actually made it to the NFL? It's not as if the TV view even shows the defensive coverage. I know he's not even close to the best mind -- that's fair to say -- but what credibility do we have to judge it? Do you watch the All-22 tape? Can you tell me what coverage shell a defense is in on a given play? Because if you're going to definitively say that Flacco can't read a defense, you should be able to tell me what you saw in the defense. Otherwise, where is your credibility?

When I have time to watch the All-22, I don't question Joe's ability to read a defense or his intelligence. I question his decision making. A lot of times, he holds the ball, waiting for the big play. Then he forces passes or takes unnecessary risks.

He's not a WCO passer. He doesn't throw the ball in rhythm. He doesn't throw the ball on the break like other QBs do. He waits. And that results in a lot of check downs, picks, and incompletions down the field.

Dont decision making and football intelligence go hand in hand?

agreed though that he is not a WCO passer.
was wrong to turn him into 1 TBH.

waste of his big arm as well.

 

 

 

Edited February 23 by Tru11

[ellicottraven]

39 minutes ago, The Raven said:

See, this is the part where Flacco critics frustrate me. Who are we as message board nerds -- who oftentimes don't watch the All-22 tape -- to question the football intelligence and defense reading of someone who actually made it to the NFL? It's not as if the TV view even shows the defensive coverage. I know he's not even close to the best mind -- that's fair to say -- but what credibility do we have to judge it? Do you watch the All-22 tape? Can you tell me what coverage shell a defense is in on a given play? Because if you're going to definitively say that Flacco can't read a defense, you should be able to tell me what you saw in the defense. Otherwise, where is your credibility?

When I have time to watch the All-22, I don't question Joe's ability to read a defense or his intelligence. I question his decision making. A lot of times, he holds the ball, waiting for the big play. Then he forces passes or takes unnecessary risks.

He's not a WCO passer. He doesn't throw the ball in rhythm. He doesn't throw the ball on the break like other QBs do. He waits. And that results in a lot of check downs, picks, and incompletions down the field.

I'm not saying I am a great judge of football intelligence. I just read what's written about these things. In response I would simply ask you to also read this. Also he ranked 25th out of 35 pre snap read QB rankings. That to me is a direct reflection of film study and football intelligence, because defenses don't use a formation and just stand there. They deceive and its up to the QB to figure it out.