APPRECIATION THREAD: Joe Flacco was a couple of possessions away from being in 4 Superbowls in 8 years!!!!

[CalvinSmoke]

27 minutes ago, usmccharles said:

So what will it take to make you "happy"?  What "ratin" is your standard?  What INT is "acceptable" to you?  A team that has two 14 point leads on the team that goes to win the SB and blows them....Clearly was the QBs fault.  I will wait for your standards of stats, but im sure you wont even have any.

 

Side-note:  I still think we missed big time by not signing Alex Mack.  The Falcons OL all started the entire year together if i remember correctly, has the best WR in the NFL (imo) and the best RB duo in the league (most people's opinion).  I would love to have any of that here, hell, i would settle for just Mack.   Stats are cool and all, but there is one that matters more and Joe already did that. 

Sadly the ravens have proved they don't need stars. They game plan well enough to the point where good role players get it done. No one from that Super Bowl offense has been considered top 10... Maybe even top 20 of their position. 

If this where Madden, all our offense needs is 75-83 overall players.

[usmccharles]

26 minutes ago, CalvinSmoke said:

Sadly the ravens have proved they don't need stars. They game plan well enough to the point where good role players get it done. No one from that Super Bowl offense has been considered top 10... Maybe even top 20 of their position. 

If this where Madden, all our offense needs is 75-83 overall players.

I think you could put Rice in the top 5 of RBs that year, 1600 total yards and 10TDs.  Im just fine with role players actually, id rather be well rounded than dependent on a single super-star

Edited January 31 by usmccharles

[Tank 92]

5 hours ago, CalvinSmoke said:

Sadly the ravens have proved they don't need stars. They game plan well enough to the point where good role players get it done. No one from that Super Bowl offense has been considered top 10... Maybe even top 20 of their position. 

If this where Madden, all our offense needs is 75-83 overall players.

RR, Pitta and Matt Birk all top 10. Others like Flacco, Boldin and McKinnie had great post seasons as individuals and contributed big time with "star like" performances. Don't think you could say it was game planning that put them over the top. 

[Purple_City39]

9 hours ago, CalvinSmoke said:

Sadly the ravens have proved they don't need stars. They game plan well enough to the point where good role players get it done. No one from that Super Bowl offense has been considered top 10... Maybe even top 20 of their position. 

If this where Madden, all our offense needs is 75-83 overall players.

I'm pretty sure Yanda was considered a top 10 guard in 2012.  And as previously mentioned, Matt Birk and Ray Rice were top 10 at their positions also.  

I get your point though that this team doesn't need a bunch of superstars to win a superbowl.  Even this season, just a few minor changes would have made Baltimore a playoff team with the roster they had (running the ball more and at the right times and Jimmy staying healthy.  Literally just these two changes would have added at least 2 wins)

[Tank 92]

6 hours ago, Tank 92 said:

RR, Pitta and Matt Birk all top 10. Others like Flacco, Boldin and McKinnie had great post seasons as individuals and contributed big time with "star like" performances. Don't think you could say it was game planning that put them over the top. 

and Yanda.

[jaege]

On 12/28/2016 at 8:23 PM, RedFire said:

50% average...amazing!

 

 

 

2009- Rookie mistake with a middle of the field pass against the Steelers end of game to take the lead for the win.

2012- Lee Evans drops the ball

2013- Superbowl MVP

2015- Pats cheated with eligbiles, cheated with not letting us sub and cheated with defeated balls. Flacco was out slinging Tom and the pats had to cheat to overcome two 14-point deficits. 

 

 

 

Playoff Joe is the truth! If we can carry the man to the post season he turns into a HOFer!

Could you site your actual evidence for this theory? More than just supposition of what might have been. 

[RayRayRaven]

21 hours ago, jaege said:

Could you site your actual evidence for this theory? More than just supposition of what might have been. 

it doesn t really matter does it?   ya know who joe flacco is?  now pls believ me he was my hope for the francise.  I really thought joe would have given us two if not three super bowls by now.  I really did. joes value to Baltimore is one thing now. it is trade value. but this is the last yr for it.  ya know who joe is?  joe flacco is jay cutler with a super bowl.  I once watched a big horse auction at Timonium and the bidders were sayin you can't pay 1 million for a horse, cuz what if he can't run? and the man biddin says I don care if he can run a lick he got breddin and has rezidual value.  what is that? well he goes on to say he can bred this horse and get a return on his investmant.  it didn' tmatter if he couldn't win the Preakness. he could sell breding rights.  see what I'm sayin?  joe still has rezidual value, but not for long.  joes career stats are almost identify with jay cutler. both have a mendosa like 85 rating same amount of yarding and a middling td to int ratio.  guess what cutler is worth now in rezidual value? same no emotion game face to.

Jay cutler

joe flacco

 

 

[usmccharles]

1 hour ago, RayRayRaven said:

it doesn t really matter does it?   ya know who joe flacco is?  now pls believ me he was my hope for the francise.  I really thought joe would have given us two if not three super bowls by now.  I really did. joes value to Baltimore is one thing now. it is trade value. but this is the last yr for it.  ya know who joe is?  joe flacco is jay cutler with a super bowl.  I once watched a big horse auction at Timonium and the bidders were sayin you can't pay 1 million for a horse, cuz what if he can't run? and the man biddin says I don care if he can run a lick he got breddin and has rezidual value.  what is that? well he goes on to say he can bred this horse and get a return on his investmant.  it didn' tmatter if he couldn't win the Preakness. he could sell breding rights.  see what I'm sayin?  joe still has rezidual value, but not for long.  joes career stats are almost identify with jay cutler. both have a mendosa like 85 rating same amount of yarding and a middling td to int ratio.  guess what cutler is worth now in rezidual value? same no emotion game face to.

Jay cutler

joe flacco

I think we need to call this guy, i have absolutely no clue what you just said but ill assume it all meant , "joe sucks, trade him."

[RayRayRaven]

On ‎1‎/‎30‎/‎2017 at 10:54 PM, usmccharles said:

So what will it take to make you "happy"?  What "ratin" is your standard?  What INT is "acceptable" to you?  A team that has two 14 point leads on the team that goes to win the SB and blows them....Clearly was the QBs fault.  I will wait for your standards of stats, but im sure you wont even have any.

 

Side-note:  I still think we missed big time by not signing Alex Mack.  The Falcons OL all started the entire year together if i remember correctly, has the best WR in the NFL (imo) and the best RB duo in the league (most people's opinion).  I would love to have any of that here, hell, i would settle for just Mack.   Stats are cool and all, but there is one that matters more and Joe already did that. 

yah we coulda used alex mac we coulda used pat Quinn too.  a card laid is a card play ed.

did you know aron Rodgers worst year is joes best  year and joes best are few and far between. th e standard you say I dont know about is for instance what matt ice ryan has put up with and without support.  that standard is 10 full points more than joe can produce constantly..  did you know aron Rodgers is 20 points lifetime better than flacco. don't get me wrong doan expect joe to equal rodgers, but matt ice r yan is a good benchmarc

we keep makin mistakes. its getting old and the major rebuld is comin, cuz we keep makin mistakes. seein bisciotti strugglin with  easy decisions and sayin a thing aint what it is makes me wonder how he is gonna be the guy to decide who to acquire for the big correcktion that is closin in fast.

to much time a wastin and cant get it back

[Tank 92]

These posts are just too much with all the intentional misspellings and such. They were kinda amusing at first, but old and stale now. 

[usmccharles]

1 hour ago, RayRayRaven said:

did you know aron Rodgers worst year is joes best  year and joes best are few and far between. th e standard you say I dont know about is for instance what matt ice ryan has put up with and without support.  that standard is 10 full points more than joe can produce constantly..  did you know aron Rodgers is 20 points lifetime better than flacco. don't get me wrong doan expect joe to equal rodgers, but matt ice r yan is a good benchmarc

we keep makin mistakes. its getting old and the major rebuld is comin, cuz we keep makin mistakes. seein bisciotti strugglin with  easy decisions and sayin a thing aint what it is makes me wonder how he is gonna be the guy to decide who to acquire for the big correcktion that is closin in fast.

to much time a wastin and cant get it back

Man, I have to ask, what is with the spelling?

Well there's a certain reason that Rodgers has had better years than Joe's, Aaron Rodgers is a better QB than Joe Flacco is, plain and simple.  The difference between you and I is that I know what Joe is and what he wont be AND am ok with that, its that easy for me. He is the exact opposite of Peyton Manning who seemed to always choke in playoffs while Joe has elevated his play in the post-season.   If your going to compare the two, it would be fair to bring up that Rodgers sat behind one of the best QBs in NFL history, now I don't know how much that matters but its worth mentioning.  And all this about comparing the two, Rodgers has him beat in every category yet they have the same amount of SB wins. 

The thing with how much QBs are paid, like I have stated before, is determined by what the team is willing to pay, hence market value.  Brock Osweiler is a perfect example, it isn't based on JUST performance, hence why Brock got paid and yet is hilarious to watch throwing a football, the Texans would have beat the Pats if they had almost any other QB in the league.  I bet you weren't complaining when Joe was on his rookie contract.

Every year there is 31 teams that make mistakes and the fans will think the sky is falling, as this team does even when we win, just not by enough.  Mistakes are part of the game, we have two SB in twenty years, a lot better than most franchises.  While I am not content with that because obviously I want to keep winning, but acting like the FO has no idea what its doing is just absurd because we don't have a QB that throws for 5k yards, 40Tds and makes 10mill a year. 

Edited February 2 by usmccharles

[Purple_City39]

I do find it interesting that a lot of the time, people compare Joe to Rodgers/Brady, as if those two aren't all time greats and future first ballot HoF players.  Sure, we can want Joe to match that, but if you're honest and can truly dissect football, you'll know he's not on their level and never will be.

Then again, most comparisons are pretty bad.  Sure Matt Ryan has all those great stats yearly, but he's also had better offensive talent yearly.  Ryan's had worse defenses so he sees less regular season wins also.  Difference between the two is who steps up when it really matters. Ryan just started playing well in January in his two most recent playoff appearances with superior talent

[gtalk12]

On ‎1‎/‎30‎/‎2017 at 8:22 PM, RayRayRaven said:

kubeik s year was joes best?  Kubeik proved joe coul d do it every year?  omg  joe had a 91 pass ratin a great play action pass game and still threw 12 picks. I feel sick and am goin to bed on this

Did you forget the yards and TD's? or.....

 

Seriously what games where you watching? Do you even realize how good of an offense we had that year? How balanced the attack was and how efficient Flacco looked? I can not believe I am arguing this point with a fellow Raven fan that supposedly watches the games. Had our defense not gone down with all those injuries we would have placed Brady and the Pats to bed.

 

You want to be critical? Go ahead and do so, but do not be null and void of the facts. Kubiaks tenure here was Flaccos best if not PROVE me wrong and tell me when he managed to surpass 27TD's??

[RayRayRaven]

7 hours ago, usmccharles said:

  While I am not content with that because obviously I want to keep winning, but acting like the FO has no idea what its doing is just absurd because we don't have a QB that throws for 5k yards, 40Tds and makes 10mill a year. 

joe got a deal where they spected xactly that!  if joe was costin 10 mill a yr, (maybes his truth value), maybe less problem

7 hours ago, Purple_City39 said:

  Difference between the two is who steps up when it really matters. Ryan just started playing well in January in his two most recent playoff appearances with superior talent

well mat ice ryan is a big ticket qb too. pricey. but hes earnin  closer to it

7 hours ago, gtalk12 said:

Did you forget the yards and TD's? or.....

nope jus sayin if 2014 was as good as it gets the real value is defanitly trade value.  wasn't disagreein that the kubiak yr was one of joes better yrs. jus that he did not excell even then.  his best yr was like 2010 but neither good nuff to pay like we pay. as goes the pats they wuld have found a way to beat us fur sur. they always do. cept when we had our superstars. doan remember 2014 being the uge injury yr, that was 2015, but we was down in the secondary. had nothing. maybe we a lick better there now.

hate to be the bringer of bad news, but anyone thinkin joe is leadin us on is sererious hopin. id take a first and second for him in a ny minute but I kno we can get two 1's if we don't delay. sam darnold is out there and id hate to mis him

[usmccharles]

38 minutes ago, RayRayRaven said:

joe got a deal where they spected xactly that!  if joe was costin 10 mill a yr, (maybes his truth value), maybe less problem

 

Pweease, sho me ani link, souyrce, quote from anything ckredible than yo boy at da ba down da streeeet

Edited February 3 by usmccharles

[ellicottraven]

The best way to judge a QB is to ask the people that don't have vested rooted interests how they feel about the QB. Sadly, the majority of football fans don't think Joe is half as good as some of us Ravens homers do. But, I think a good number of former blind Flacco homers are slowly coming around to the idea that Flacco may not be an elite or even a top 7-8 QB after all.

[Ravenseconbeast]

1 hour ago, ellicottraven said:

The best way to judge a QB is to ask the people that don't have vested rooted interests how they feel about the QB. Sadly, the majority of football fans don't think Joe is half as good as some of us Ravens homers do. But, I think a good number of former blind Flacco homers are slowly coming around to the idea that Flacco may not be an elite or even a top 7-8 QB after all.

I got into 2week argument with constant harassment saying the exact thing during his contract FA year.  

Now its a complete waste of time.  We should not have giveb him the money and simply have him test the market.

His wallet and his $ is getting bigger but he is taking the team the wrong way.  

I wish this forum was less one-sided and had more fans that cared about the actual team as a WHOLE.  But nope.

Too much bangwagon fans that jumped shiped and they dictated this failure campaign to make Ravens a losing organization.  

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

35 minutes ago, Ravenseconbeast said:

Too much bangwagon fans that jumped shiped and they dictated this failure campaign to make Ravens a losing organization.  

 

2

Lolwut. The day the fans in this franchise get any power is the day that I will drive myself to the brink of insanity and have my girlfriend string me up like a heavy bag and beat me to death with her bare hands. You're blaming us now? Have you really run out of ideas? 

 

LMAO! I quit.....

Edited February 3 by LosT_in_TranSlatioN

[Tru11]

8 hours ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

Lolwut. The day the fans in this franchise get any power is the day that I will drive myself to the brink of insanity and have my girlfriend string me up like a heavy bag and beat me to death with her bare hands. You're blaming us now? Have you really run out of ideas? 

 

LMAO! I quit.....

Their might be a market for this.

We could get some funds that we could wire to flacco and perhaps he could consider to take less.

[Ravenseconbeast]

13 hours ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

Lolwut. The day the fans in this franchise get any power is the day that I will drive myself to the brink of insanity and have my girlfriend string me up like a heavy bag and beat me to death with her bare hands. You're blaming us now? Have you really run out of ideas? 

 

LMAO! I quit.....

 

I would say fans dont hold 'control' over a team, but they definately do have a voice.   Half of the 2008 bandwagon fans that came into being new to Ravens organization would've started a riot if she didn't sign Joe the 'savior' after Superbowl.   

While folks like myself wouldn't have blinked an eye if he left and washed away his career.   

Should have stayed hard ball and kept the 'right player right price mentality' and drafted a solid QB and groom him.   We would've been in a good position to have plenty of depth and brighter future imo.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

I don't have time for this....

@flynismo

 

deal with this? Please? For me?

[usmccharles]

17 hours ago, ellicottraven said:

The best way to judge a QB is to ask the people that don't have vested rooted interests how they feel about the QB. Sadly, the majority of football fans don't think Joe is half as good as some of us Ravens homers do. But, I think a good number of former blind Flacco homers are slowly coming around to the idea that Flacco may not be an elite or even a top 7-8 QB after all.

I have always been a "Flacco Homer" and i have never thought that about Joe.  I know what Joe is and have stated it numerous times, yet somehow im biased, a homer, an apologist, etc....

16 hours ago, Ravenseconbeast said:

I got into 2week argument with constant harassment saying the exact thing during his contract FA year.  

Now its a complete waste of time.  We should not have giveb him the money and simply have him test the market.

His wallet and his $ is getting bigger but he is taking the team the wrong way.  

I wish this forum was less one-sided and had more fans that cared about the actual team as a WHOLE.  But nope.

Too much bangwagon fans that jumped shiped and they dictated this failure campaign to make Ravens a losing organization.  

Im guessing the "harassment" you received was people explaining to you market value which 4 years later you still dont understand.  To say that fans dont care about the team as a whole, i dont know how you come to that conclusion, at all. Everyone here is Ravens fans but just because some of us dont want to cut, trade, or tell Joe to be the waterboy means we dont care about the team as a whole?  It's honestly like you just make stuff up

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Ugh. Fine. Want something done right you better do it yourself.

1. This is why fans don't run NFL teams. That decision would have run us into the ground and instead of us being a "losing" organization(which is more attributable for us not retaining certain players and/or certain players getting older) we'd be trash. That off-season there was the worst QB class in recent memory.

your choices were
EJ Manuel(who sucks)
Geno Smith(who sucks)
mike Glennon(good backup. Not a starter though)
Tyler Wilson(who's out of the league. Because he sucked)

the draft after, we could've taken Mariota(who's probably going to be injury prone in the future even though he's pretty good) 
Winston(who we probably wouldn't have considered due to character concerns)
Derek Carr(only QB on here who's not only great, but the only one I'd honestly take over Flacco).

You clearly have no understanding of how difficult it is to find a franchise QB. At all. 

2. Okay ravensECONbeast let's talk the economics of the NFL for a second and allow me to teach you something. Economics is predicated around supply and demand. The supply of QBs who have won a sb in the league is very low(Roethlisberger, Rodgers, Wilson, Brees, Flacco, Manning, Brady) Flacco has proven he can do it, and he was the catalyst for it. Even if his supporting cast was good during the run, a good supporting cast can be put to waste by a truly lousy QB. See. Brock Oswilier, and all the Arizona QBs post warner and pre Palmer. Yet, the demand is high. We have 31(except the browns since they seem to be content with sucking) teams who want someone who can do what Flacco has done. That's why idiots like Colin Kaepernick, Jay Cutler and Brock Osiwiler got paid as much as they did. Had we let him go, he could've gone to a team that was a QB away from being very good, say the Arizona cardinals, and turned them into a better organization than they had been over the past 5 years. Or the Houston Texans. Hell, even coming off an injury, if Flacco is on THIS YEARS Texans team, with Hopkins, Fuller, CJ, and Lamar Miller, and a very good defense, we might be talking about them in the SB right now. 

And mind you, half of the fan base stood with you. Fans had no influence on this decision. Letting him go would've been a death sentence for us as a franchise. We had no choice but to keep him.

Just. Smh

[gtalk12]

2012, let's pretend we let Joe walk after a SB win.....then what? 

[Tank 92]

1 minute ago, gtalk12 said:

2012, let's pretend we let Joe walk after a SB win.....then what? 

LMAO!  The Ravens would have been recognized as the dumbest franchise on the planet.

[gtalk12]

2 minutes ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

Ugh. Fine. Want something done right you better do it yourself.

1. This is why fans don't run NFL teams. That decision would have run us into the ground and instead of us being a "losing" organization(which is more attributable for us not retaining certain players and/or certain players getting older) we'd be trash. That off-season there was the worst QB class in recent memory.

your choices were
EJ Manuel(who sucks)
Geno Smith(who sucks)
mike Glennon(good backup. Not a starter though)
Tyler Wilson(who's out of the league. Because he sucked)

the draft after, we could've taken Mariota(who's probably going to be injury prone in the future even though he's pretty good) 
Winston(who we probably wouldn't have considered due to character concerns)
Derek Carr(only QB on here who's not only great, but the only one I'd honestly take over Flacco).

You clearly have no understanding of how difficult it is to find a franchise QB. At all. 

2. Okay ravensECONbeast let's talk the economics of the NFL for a second and allow me to teach you something. Economics is predicated around supply and demand. The supply of QBs who have won a sb in the league is very low(Roethlisberger, Rodgers, Wilson, Brees, Flacco, Manning, Brady) Flacco has proven he can do it, and he was the catalyst for it. Even if his supporting cast was good during the run, a good supporting cast can be put to waste by a truly lousy QB. See. Brock Oswilier, and all the Arizona QBs post warner and pre Palmer. Yet, the demand is high. We have 31(except the browns since they seem to be content with sucking) teams who want someone who can do what Flacco has done. That's why idiots like Colin Kaepernick, Jay Cutler and Brock Osiwiler got paid as much as they did. Had we let him go, he could've gone to a team that was a QB away from being very good, say the Arizona cardinals, and turned them into a better organization than they had been over the past 5 years. Or the Houston Texans. Hell, even coming off an injury, if Flacco is on THIS YEARS Texans team, with Hopkins, Fuller, CJ, and Lamar Miller, and a very good defense, we might be talking about them in the SB right now. 

And mind you, half of the fan base stood with you. Fans had no influence on this decision. Letting him go would've been a death sentence for us as a franchise. We had no choice but to keep him.

Just. Smh

 

Someone gets it finally...sheesh....Flacco does not have to be Drew Brees at all. They can blame him all they want for our failures but he is not the biggest issue nor is the amount we paid him either. Look at the market and tell me who we could have replaced him with? Look at what QB's that have accomplished less are getting paid. It's as if they do not see what is going on around the league and how teams are being constructed to win. 

[gtalk12]

1 minute ago, Tank 92 said:

LMAO!  The Ravens would have been recognized as the dumbest franchise on the planet.

 

if you ask most of the guys on this forum, apparently there are options I nor the organization could foresee lol 

[gtalk12]

19 hours ago, RayRayRaven said:

joe got a deal where they spected xactly that!  if joe was costin 10 mill a yr, (maybes his truth value), maybe less problem

well mat ice ryan is a big ticket qb too. pricey. but hes earnin  closer to it

nope jus sayin if 2014 was as good as it gets the real value is defanitly trade value.  wasn't disagreein that the kubiak yr was one of joes better yrs. jus that he did not excell even then.  his best yr was like 2010 but neither good nuff to pay like we pay. as goes the pats they wuld have found a way to beat us fur sur. they always do. cept when we had our superstars. doan remember 2014 being the uge injury yr, that was 2015, but we was down in the secondary. had nothing. maybe we a lick better there now.

hate to be the bringer of bad news, but anyone thinkin joe is leadin us on is sererious hopin. id take a first and second for him in a ny minute but I kno we can get two 1's if we don't delay. sam darnold is out there and id hate to mis him

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[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

31 minutes ago, gtalk12 said:

 

Someone gets it finally...sheesh....Flacco does not have to be Drew Brees at all. They can blame him all they want for our failures but he is not the biggest issue nor is the amount we paid him either. Look at the market and tell me who we could have replaced him with? Look at what QB's that have accomplished less are getting paid. It's as if they do not see what is going on around the league and how teams are being constructed to win. 

 

Yeah, I've never bought into the "Flacco is elite" argument. He's good enough to win a Super bowl if he has a good team around him.

 

I mean, what's wrong with that? Don't you have to have a good team to make the SB anyway?

 

He's not elite, he's above average. He does enough to win, and he's won the big dance before and has come close to getting there multiple times, where he is rarely the reason we fail. He's not Mark Sanchez like his haters want him to be. He's not elite, but very few QBs are. Rodgers, Brady, this year Matt Ryan and Carr. But if you put a good situation around Flacco, the team is gonna be successful. This year, we didn't have a running game, and the defense fell off at the end of the year because we don't have good pass rushers. Tell me, how is that Flacco's fault? Don't give me the money thing, we've invested a lot of money in Suggs(a future hall of famer) and Dumervil, who was a damn good pass rusher in his prime. It's because they got old!!! Jimmy going down doesn't help out either. As for the running game, it got better, but if you really watched it, the oline wasn't fantastic and Marty wasn't really one to call a lot of running plays(which is once again, not on Flacco). Flacco had one truly horrid game this last year, and that was vs. the Jets.  He wasn't great the first half of the season, but outside of the Eagles game, he was actually a lot better the second half of the season. He wasn't the reason we missed the playoffs at all.  In fact, and I know econ is gonna bring up the stats here, he played well enough vs. Pittsburgh to win. Our WRs dropped a few TD's vs them that were gimmies. We lost to Pittsburght because 1. No pass rush(we were blitzing every down on the last drive so don't even try to put this on Pees), 2. Bad corner depth, Tavon Young and Jimmy are good, but Powers and Wright are not. 

 

 

Sorry dude. We had no choice but to pay Flacco. Arizona would've paid just as much, and we'd probably be even worse off right now.

 

 

It's hard to find a QB in the league who can win you a SB. Flacco has done it. 

 

Get over it, he's here to stay. 

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

On 2/1/2017 at 5:54 PM, usmccharles said:

I think we need to call this guy, i have absolutely no clue what you just said but ill assume it all meant , "joe sucks, trade him."

 

I think even Robert Langdon would be confused.