[News] Late For Work 12/28: Offseason Changes Are Needed, But Not At Head Coach

[RavenSwag]

Yes Juice would've been the hero if we pulled that game out but we didn't unfortunately. That was one hell of a run. Truck stick the safety and dives in the endzone...a thing of beauty. I'm still hurting over that game. No way we shouldn't have walked out of that stadium with the W.

[The Greek]

pees does not have the killer instinct as a dc. the defense of 2000 would have gotten even nastier in the 4th qtr.. he goes into safe mode when he has a lead. hope he is replaced

[The Greek]

  20 hours ago, The Greek said:

  21 hours ago, steelcityraven said:

I say we bring back Rex Ryan. We can say whatever we ant about Dean Pees having the #5 defense in the NFL- what does it mean if we cannot count on him when we need to?

Over the past two years our defense under Pees has shown that Bend but don't Break ALWAYS breaks at the wrong time and that NO lead is safe.

2015
Week 1 The Broncos rally with 28 seconds left to beat us 19-13
Week 2. The Raiders rally behind Derek Carr to score the game winner with 26 seconds left leading the Raiders to a 37-33 win
Week 3. The Ravens blow a 14 point 4th quarter lead to the Bengals losing 28-24
Week 5. Jsoh McCown throws for 400 yards to come from behind and tie the came with seconds left and then leads a scoring drive to victory in over us in OT giving them a 33-30 win
Week 6. The 49ers and Kapernick hits a 51 yard pass to ABoldin and then a 21 yarder to Q Patton to lead the 49ers to a 4th quarter victory over us 25-20

Week 9. The Jags win on the last play of the game with a Jason Myers FG for a 22-20 victory over us

Week 13. Dolphins score two TDs in under a minute to beat the Ravens 15-13
Week 14 and 15 were blowouts losing to the Seahawks and Chiefs 35-6 and 34-14 respectively

Week 17 we saw Andy Dalton throw two 4th quarter TD passes to rally the Bengals past the Ravens 24-16

2016
Week 4. DCarr throws 4 TD passes including his final TD pass to Michael Crabtree to Rally the Raiders to a 28-27 victory in BMORE

Week 5. The Skins take the lead on a 50 yard drive in the fourth quarter (perriman later drops a TD pass in a comeback attempt but another 4th quarter comeback sinks us)

Week 6. Giants use a 75 yard 2nd half TD pass and then a 66 yarder to Odell Beckham with 1:24 left in the 4th to beat us 27-23

Week 7. The Jets send Ryan Fitzpatrick in for injured Geno Smith and Fitz leads the woeful Jets to 3 second half TDs for a 24-16 victory over us

Week 11. The Cowboys see rookie Dak Prescott lead them to 14 second half points to come from behind an beat us 27-17

Week 14. The Patriots see us rally and seize control of momentum heading into the 4th quarter only to give up an 80 yard TD pass to Chis Hogan sealing our fate with a 30-23 loss to the Pats.

Week 16. The Sqeelers erased a 14 point fourth quarter lead and scored 24 of their 31 points in the 2nd half (including 21 in the fourth quarter)

Pees bend but don't break philosophy doesn't work bc it ALWAYS breaks at the worst opportune movements. That has happened in 15 of our 17 loses over the past two years. (and BTW if we look at 2014 it is just as bad). That is a big enough sample. Pees should go. (I wouldn't mind bringing Rex back) but Rex or not - Pees got to go or it will be more of the same in 2017!

nice work!! but i do not feel ryans foot fetish ways will mesh with harbs biblical ways plus i dont think rex would want to come back to a team that by passed him for the hc job 9 years ago. we shall see what harbs decides to do but you should email him this post of yours

The Greek... you may be right but my post was more about the need for Pees to be on his way out then Rex to be on his way in. I really don't care if it is Rex or whoever... but I really hope it is not Pees

agreed

[Crusader]

You think the Ravens can fix the secondary before the Ravens play Arron Rogers in Green Bay Next year? Chalk that game up as a Big fat "L"

[steelcityraven]

  7 hours ago, jsarrocohome@yahoo.com said:

  8 hours ago, Rav'n Maniac said:

If Harbs isn't the problem, then he has to be the solution. When the HC doesn't have the X's & O's background, he has to hire and depend on his coordinators to lead the team. He hasn't done bad with the defense and special teams selections but, his offensive hires leave a lot to be desired.

I beg to differ with you in a lot of games we lost over the last couple years we lead in 4th quarter only to watch pees stupid prevent defense cost us the game if pees is here next year nothing will change

I mean no offense but, Pees is not the problem here. I agree that I don't care for the the 'Peesvent" defense, as I call it. In most cases you mentioned, he was forced to use that due to injuries and lack of pass rush.

You can't bring in a weaker CB and expect them to shut down one side of the field without safety help when Jimmy goes down. You have to hold both safeties back deep to help which is the prevent.

I don't buy that.... Pees always has an excuse. . 15 of our 17 loses over the past 2 years have seen us surrendering a 2nd half lead... most in the 4th quarter and many on the final drive.

He was promoted to our DC in 2012. We have spent drat picks on that side of the ball (18 over the past 4 years) including 6 this year. (including B. Williams, Timmy J, CJ, Tavon and more)

We have brought in FAs to try to help that side of the ball. Weddle, Sharece, and Dumervil (in 2013)

We have made trades for players (will Davis)...

Dean says that he don't have a pass rush... but he never acknowledges that sometimes in the salary cap era... we cant expect to have pro bowlers at every position.

Sometimes you have to make the most of what you have with schemes.

We have two pro bolwers on this defense (CJ and Weddle) we have BWilliams that should have been a pro bowler. We have Pierce that played as well as any DT in the league this year. We have Jimmy who when healthy played at a very high level and Tavon who played well above his draft positon. Timmy even played at or near pro bowl level for the first 12 games of the season. Zach Orr played right up there with any ILB in the league this year.

Listen that is 8 or 11 players on D who played very well this season. 8 of 11 had to garner some pro bowl consideration. There are not too many DC's who have that luxury.

Pees seems to want Pro Bowlers at every position and cannot seem to devise defensive schemes to get the most out of the emmense talent that he has.

He has failed everytime we needed the defense to step up over the past two season. 15 x over the past two years we surrendered a 2nd half lead - and costing us the game (that is 15 loses over the last two seasons that our defense failed us when we needed it the most).

If we even won half of those we would have won the division this year and made the pay offs last year.

Pees has failed with a ton of talent, a ton of resources and 4 years of opportunity. That is a big enough sample for me.

I believe that if he is back... next year we will see more and more 4th quarter let downs. We will continue to lose close games and the bend but don't break philosophy will continue to break at the most inopportune times.

[steelcityraven]

You think the Ravens can fix the secondary before the Ravens play Arron Rogers in Green Bay Next year? Chalk that game up as a Big fat "L"

If Dean Pees is there "NO" - if we find a new DC... YES we have that much talent currently. a new DC and a few minor additions to the D and Aaron Rogers and any other offense will have their hands full with the Ravens... we will be a problem.

But with Dean Pees at the helm...nobody fears us... nor should they... we will blow the lead with the game on the line. That is the only thing that has been consistent in his tenure.

[DENNYK]

Color these two guys GONE. PLEASE!!! Morningwheg and Peas. If Harbaugh stays mot much will change unless STEVE B puts the hammer done on his butt once again. For a coach who is supposed to be about winning and running a tight ship, I am not seeing that anymore. Talk about complacency at the top.

[scottsdaleazravensfan]

First priority : replace both coordinators - we need a pressure D with two strong corners and a big play offensive potential

[mhedge]

If you study leadership at all, you'll see a lot of the things Harbaugh does are textbook tenets of leadership. I too think it would be a huge mistake to let him go. Who is really better for the job? Maybe you could question some of his choices for his "generals." I'd like to see some young, fresh ideas at OC and DC. We need upgrades in personnel and the one thing no one is talking about is the o-line. If we get better there, the run game gets stronger, play-action works better, and Flacco has more time to go deep.

I agree with most. Not the Oline though. Wagner, Stanley and Yanda are very good and whoever they've rotated in at the other two spots have been ok. There's a position coach there too that needs to go if you can't put together a solid run game with the guys we have.

[mhedge]

Harbaugh needs to get mad, mean, and aggressive over the other coaches.Unless he approved those last two plays in the game against steelers. What the heck? was that? He needs to yell at dumb plays by players. Needs to get on Flacco's case. Just do something Harbaugh, show your people you are not going to take their stuff sittin down!

Harbs is only a front man. I think he's the manager. He discusses personnel and general schemes with his coordinators but ultimately I think he gives them complete autonomy.

[mhedge]

Maybe its not Pees. But after watching the old SB video from 2000, those guys were always trying to get the shutout. Marvin had those guys playing with reckless abandon from start to finish. Those were all close games too since our offense was so bad.

Our safeties are rarely even on the tv screen before the ball is snapped.