[News] Eisenberg: With A Few Changes, Ravens Can Be Pretty Darn Good Next Year

[PurpleRainBlackVeins]

  28 minutes ago, Warren said:

  1 hour ago, jsarrocohome@yahoo.com said:

  1 hour ago, thegooddoc456 said:

Didn't even bother to read whatever Eisenberg wrote up there. Anything short of firing Harbaugh won't result in much progress. The Ravens need fiery, demanding and no-nonsense coaches that would provide accountability and leadership that the Ravens so clearly lack. Problem is, Harbaugh never hires that kind, he detests them, and only hires washed up, docile types that are just grateful to have a job.

-I've thoroughly studied Harbaugh, and I just don't like him as a head coach. I'll throw out two instances(of many) that are very telling: (1). Still boggles my mind that he hired an unaccomplished college position coach in Greg Mattison to become our DC, successfully producing some of the worst Ravens defenses we've seen. Passed over all the quality people in-house, and somehow convinced management to let him reduce the Ravens coaching staff to something he uses to shore up his friendships. Now, we are loaded with a cast of reject coaches(mostly from Philadelphia) with absolutely nothing to show for it. (2) One of the first things Harbaugh did when he got to Baltimore was to summon Ray Lewis and tell him that he was no longer allowed to do his pre-game dance. It didn't matter to Harbaugh that his teammates and the fans look forward to that dance, it got them fired-up and it was pretty much tradition with the Ravens. Nah, it was now 'the harbaugh show' and he was selfishly going to do things his way...forget the Ravens way! Ray Lewis, being the wise fellow he is did not take offense to it, but told him to consult with the rest of the team before reaching that decision...the rest of the players told Harbaugh that there was no way he could get rid of the dance! Ray Lewis steadied the ship for Harbaugh many times over the years, whenever his head-scratching decisions irked a veteran team, but with that initial selfish and egotistical move, he could have completely alienated the best player on his team, if not the whole team. Sure, it's not all Harbaugh's fault, but his fragile ego would never let him hire the right coaches who coach the Ravens' way, thus he's impeding the progress of this team. I expect many to disagree with me, but two years from now when we're still mired in mediocrity some of you would come around. Happy holidays!

I for one agree with you 100%

I agre as well.

I agree as well. John Harbaugh seems just a little too self righteous.

I thought it was just me who feels this way about John smh

[ravensfan1300]

Well, we will have another OC that for sure and I think Harbaughs time is coming. Flacco should be on the block as well

[dirtybird66]

regardless of how the offense finally played,it is time to draft a DAK PRESCOTT and another shutdown corner,J. SMITH can not be counted on and he really is not a true shutdown corner when he's healthy,i only hope we lose to CINCY next sunday.we need the draft pick.

[MadStorkSociety]

  1 hour ago, FloridalovesRavens said:

  2 hours ago, thegooddoc456 said:

Didn't even bother to read whatever Eisenberg wrote up there. Anything short of firing Harbaugh won't result in much progress. The Ravens need fiery, demanding and no-nonsense coaches that would provide accountability and leadership that the Ravens so clearly lack. Problem is, Harbaugh never hires that kind, he detests them, and only hires washed up, docile types that are just grateful to have a job.

-I've thoroughly studied Harbaugh, and I just don't like him as a head coach. I'll throw out two instances(of many) that are very telling: (1). Still boggles my mind that he hired an unaccomplished college position coach in Greg Mattison to become our DC, successfully producing some of the worst Ravens defenses we've seen. Passed over all the quality people in-house, and somehow convinced management to let him reduce the Ravens coaching staff to something he uses to shore up his friendships. Now, we are loaded with a cast of reject coaches(mostly from Philadelphia) with absolutely nothing to show for it. (2) One of the first things Harbaugh did when he got to Baltimore was to summon Ray Lewis and tell him that he was no longer allowed to do his pre-game dance. It didn't matter to Harbaugh that his teammates and the fans look forward to that dance, it got them fired-up and it was pretty much tradition with the Ravens. Nah, it was now 'the harbaugh show' and he was selfishly going to do things his way...forget the Ravens way! Ray Lewis, being the wise fellow he is did not take offense to it, but told him to consult with the rest of the team before reaching that decision...the rest of the players told Harbaugh that there was no way he could get rid of the dance! Ray Lewis steadied the ship for Harbaugh many times over the years, whenever his head-scratching decisions irked a veteran team, but with that initial selfish and egotistical move, he could have completely alienated the best player on his team, if not the whole team. Sure, it's not all Harbaugh's fault, but his fragile ego would never let him hire the right coaches who coach the Ravens' way, thus he's impeding the progress of this team. I expect many to disagree with me, but two years from now when we're still mired in mediocrity some of you would come around. Happy holidays!

Yes I'm sure he is really upset that you don't like him. I would imagine you would feel differently had we won. Fans always blame the coach when things go sour. I'm sure you hated him when we were in the playoffs constantly or when we won the SB. Fickle fans. Happy New Year.

I agree with everything you say. I was one of many who said out of the gate when Ray, Ed and others were gone Harbaugh's lack of skill and foundation would take this team down. It has. I didn't think he was a good coach when we were winning and guess what I still think he is sorely lacking. He will be and we will be just as mediocre next year.

I've said many times I don't think he's a bad man. I do believe he's a mediocre coach. I also believe time has proven that statement.

Everyone moans and groans about Joe having 9 yrs at QB and not improving. I believe he has improved a lot.

Lets look at Harbaugh he's had 9 yrs to learn how to be a head coach, he still makes the same bone headed mistakes, he still lies, he still can't manage the clock and we still slow up for games so woefully unprepared it's criminal. Think Raiders, think Pats, boy that was a big one. Look at Sundays game Bell ran over all over us. Why.

I doesn't appear that any coach on this team watches a second of film. Game plans don't exist, in game corrections don't exist, half time adjustments don't exist WHY?

Next year we will have the same bad coaches, coaching badly. We will be the same full of heart and desire mediocre team we are right now. Because all the mediocre asst coaches and positions coaches will still be here. Terrific..................

I think Harbs is a good motiviator. Last year, decimated by injuries, he had the guys still fighting all season. A lot of teams would have mailed it in. That said, I agree half time adjustments and Bellichek style game plans don't exist.

[axisofeeble]

Without Tucker we are a very inept scoring offense. MORNING in 2017? NO WAY.

[axisofeeble]

43 minutes ago, ravensfan1300 said:

Well, we will have another OC that for sure and I think Harbaughs time is coming. Flacco should be on the block as well

Joe& John will be here in 2018.Rex,Rob won't.

[Legendary Ravens]

I like Dean Pees Interviews if that helps him keep a job but not all of his coaching strategies.. Harbs want to leave a legacy based on General McArthur Speeches but that style is so outdated.. Let's Play Ball the Ravens Way and stop keeping up with the Jonesses.. Let's go!

[steelraven]

The whole defense needs to be replaced, starting with the coach. There is nothing intimidating about the Ravens defense. That last play when Antonio Brown reach over the goal line with Eric Weddle and Mosley drapped all over him is a prime example. Could you imagine had that been Pollard and Ray Lewis? John Harbaugh ruined this team after the super bowl year. He tried to make it his team instead of going the tradition of hard nose football players. They will never get back to that until Harbaugh is gone. Fours years after the Super Bowl and Ravens have just been mediocre. One playoff appearance, you have to be kidding me. That should tell Steve Bisciotti everything he needs to know about Harbaugh. He's simply not a good coach and he benefited from Ray Lewis being there.

Edited December 27, 2016 by steelraven

[Purple Dawg 96]

Me myself personally in all three regards like everything the Ravens did to put this team together but Joe let me down! Got called a Troll but I can live with that even Ray Ray had something to say but he didn't get warning points and labeled like I did! Smh what improvement if the QB the same he making Harbs Ozzie and Co. look bad! Some people lost their minds questioning Ozzie draft picks etc when Joe is not utilizing his players to the best of their abilities! The redskins cowboys pats and squeelers are the only teams to really beat the Ravens squeelers got lucky those other games were winnable so how can you improve that ?! Point fingers at players that don't deserve it when it all starts at the QB! 100 million dollar QB looking at the playoffs on the outside looking in! Smh like I said I like Joe but he let me down big time! Justin Tucker cannot out shine the QB with all those trips to the redzone! This is not basketball three's don't do it 7 or better!

[TheConquerorWorm]

@Conquererworm, 15 sack pass rushers hard to find?? Are your serious?
Von Miller, JJ Watt, Khalil Mack, Justin Houston, The guys who the Ravens passes over last year.. they dont have 15 sacks but they have that talent. Noah Spence and local product in the 3rd round Terp Yannik Ngkwe for jags. Both have like 8-10 sacks. So dont say these dpoy type sack machines are hard to find.
Stop picking nice guys like correa, start picking ballers like Noah Spence regardless if he has a weed issue.
Jerry Jones and billy b in boston are lapping the field taking in these guys

You named 4 guys from the past 5 drafts - almost all picked in the top of the 1st Round (where the Ravens had no shot at drafting). 4 out of about 150 pass rushers drafted the last 5 years.

Spence has 5.5 sacks not 8-10. Which is not that impressive when you consider Pernell McPhee had 6 in his rookie year. And Spence had off-field issues with drugs (Molly, Weed, Coke) & drinking - you think the Ravens are going to touch that after the Ray Rice/Terrence Cody/Bernard Pierce arrests? Off field issues, bad interviews at the combine and bad 40 time are why EVERY team passed on him in the 1st Round. Let's see what he does this off-season with plenty of time, fame and a pocketful of money. Aldon Smith 2.0?

Yannick (only 7 sacks) is good as a pass rusher playing the LEO in a 4-3 defense (the easiest pass rush position in football because you dont have to do anything else - no edge setting, no dropback coverage). Put him as a OLB in a 3-4 and he can't play every down because he can't cover or play the run. This is not Madden - you can't just put players in a position you want. I'm not wasting a high pick on a player that cant play 3 downs. DPR only.

[sami]

  2 hours ago, FloridalovesRavens said:

  3 hours ago, thegooddoc456 said:

Didn't even bother to read whatever Eisenberg wrote up there. Anything short of firing Harbaugh won't result in much progress. The Ravens need fiery, demanding and no-nonsense coaches that would provide accountability and leadership that the Ravens so clearly lack. Problem is, Harbaugh never hires that kind, he detests them, and only hires washed up, docile types that are just grateful to have a job.

-I've thoroughly studied Harbaugh, and I just don't like him as a head coach. I'll throw out two instances(of many) that are very telling: (1). Still boggles my mind that he hired an unaccomplished college position coach in Greg Mattison to become our DC, successfully producing some of the worst Ravens defenses we've seen. Passed over all the quality people in-house, and somehow convinced management to let him reduce the Ravens coaching staff to something he uses to shore up his friendships. Now, we are loaded with a cast of reject coaches(mostly from Philadelphia) with absolutely nothing to show for it. (2) One of the first things Harbaugh did when he got to Baltimore was to summon Ray Lewis and tell him that he was no longer allowed to do his pre-game dance. It didn't matter to Harbaugh that his teammates and the fans look forward to that dance, it got them fired-up and it was pretty much tradition with the Ravens. Nah, it was now 'the harbaugh show' and he was selfishly going to do things his way...forget the Ravens way! Ray Lewis, being the wise fellow he is did not take offense to it, but told him to consult with the rest of the team before reaching that decision...the rest of the players told Harbaugh that there was no way he could get rid of the dance! Ray Lewis steadied the ship for Harbaugh many times over the years, whenever his head-scratching decisions irked a veteran team, but with that initial selfish and egotistical move, he could have completely alienated the best player on his team, if not the whole team. Sure, it's not all Harbaugh's fault, but his fragile ego would never let him hire the right coaches who coach the Ravens' way, thus he's impeding the progress of this team. I expect many to disagree with me, but two years from now when we're still mired in mediocrity some of you would come around. Happy holidays!

Yes I'm sure he is really upset that you don't like him. I would imagine you would feel differently had we won. Fans always blame the coach when things go sour. I'm sure you hated him when we were in the playoffs constantly or when we won the SB. Fickle fans. Happy New Year.

I agree with everything you say. I was one of many who said out of the gate when Ray, Ed and others were gone Harbaugh's lack of skill and foundation would take this team down. It has. I didn't think he was a good coach when we were winning and guess what I still think he is sorely lacking. He will be and we will be just as mediocre next year.

I've said many times I don't think he's a bad man. I do believe he's a mediocre coach. I also believe time has proven that statement.

Everyone moans and groans about Joe having 9 yrs at QB and not improving. I believe he has improved a lot.

Lets look at Harbaugh he's had 9 yrs to learn how to be a head coach, he still makes the same bone headed mistakes, he still lies, he still can't manage the clock and we still slow up for games so woefully unprepared it's criminal. Think Raiders, think Pats, boy that was a big one. Look at Sundays game Bell ran over all over us. Why.

I doesn't appear that any coach on this team watches a second of film. Game plans don't exist, in game corrections don't exist, half time adjustments don't exist WHY?

Next year we will have the same bad coaches, coaching badly. We will be the same full of heart and desire mediocre team we are right now. Because all the mediocre asst coaches and positions coaches will still be here. Terrific..................

Well Ray and Ed and others were here when we were had losing seasons before Harbaugh got here. And as soon as he took the reins we were in the playoffs for many years in a row. How do you explain THAT!

[Ravensfansince03]

I've been saying for years that Harbaugh is not a good fit as HC for this team in the absence of Ray Lewis. Harbaugh would make a great special teams coach, but his stubborness is not a good fit to lead this team.

If I was Ozzie/Biscotti I would do whatever I could to get Rex Ryan in as DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR. And then see if Ray Lewis would be interested in being Head Coach Lol. I know thats a long shot, but we seriously need a hard nosed, brute style, have fun, type of Head Coach that has a eye for brute players, and will allow them to be animals. Head Coach Harbaugh is way to stubborn.

[whobilly]

I've been saying for years that Harbaugh is not a good fit as HC for this team in the absence of Ray Lewis. Harbaugh would make a great special teams coach, but his stubborness is not a good fit to lead this team.

If I was Ozzie/Biscotti I would do whatever I could to get Rex Ryan in as DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR. And then see if Ray Lewis would be interested in being Head Coach Lol. I know thats a long shot, but we seriously need a hard nosed, brute style, have fun, type of Head Coach that has a eye for brute players, and will allow them to be animals. Head Coach Harbaugh is way to stubborn.

Stop it.

[leziRav]

Totally disagree on saying this team didnt underachieve, Eisenberg.
Any time you miss the playoffs you under achieve if your the Ravens organization, any time you dont make any kind of playoff run its a bad season.
Last year was a fluke because 20plus injuries, this year was 2 fold season long lack of commitment to running the football, which eventually would catch up to this team and Jimmy Smith being injured in the biggesr games.(Nyg,Steelers,Cowboys,Pats) all probably very different outcomes if Jimmy could stay healtier throughout his career.
Finally Steve B put the hammer down on demanding pass rush last year, yet they passed over local stud Yannik Nkaqwe, Noah Spence and many others for bums and nice guys like Correa and Koufusis.
We are done with nice guys. How many times does Mike Preston have to say it, fans, hosts on 1057 the fan, we need the edgy, nasty players back.
They better draft 1-2 15 sack dpoy von miller, sizzle in his prime type edge rushers this year, and another elite cb since jimmy is always hurt

My wish would be
Ravens are currently sitting at 16
Rnd 1 pk 16
Olbr/de charles Harris Mizzou, Barnett Tenn, Smoot Illinois
Rnd 2 Cb Tredavious White Lsu, Jordin Lewis Mich, Cordea Tankersley Clem,
Rnd 3 Amarah Darboh Wr, Dede Westbrook Wr,
Rnd 3 comp for KO Budda Baker S/CB, Eddie Jackson S
Rnd 4 OG /NT Mason Cole mich, Vanderdoes ucla,
Rnd 5 NT/OG

Ravens are current sitting at 17 pk. Depend on Sunday game, we can go as high at 14pk or as low as 20pk. Maybe we should use some of our TEs in a trade and move up high to draft a game changer. There are few teams up in the draft that need TEs and WR. We have right now Pitta, Gilmore, Boyle, Max, Waller, Watson. We won't need all of them next year. Trading couple of them to move up will be nice.
Also we will need a nasty/starter center/G, maybe in 2nd, 3rd rounds or trade.
On the other side, don't give up on Correi and Kaufusi. Let see their development. Maybe next year we will be able to judge them.

[MadStorkSociety]

How about we get Rex for D.C. and move Pees to O.C. since he knows how to make an offense look good?

[whobilly]

  1 hour ago, btfan2 said:

  2 hours ago, FloridalovesRavens said:

  3 hours ago, thegooddoc456 said:

Didn't even bother to read whatever Eisenberg wrote up there. Anything short of firing Harbaugh won't result in much progress. The Ravens need fiery, demanding and no-nonsense coaches that would provide accountability and leadership that the Ravens so clearly lack. Problem is, Harbaugh never hires that kind, he detests them, and only hires washed up, docile types that are just grateful to have a job.

-I've thoroughly studied Harbaugh, and I just don't like him as a head coach. I'll throw out two instances(of many) that are very telling: (1). Still boggles my mind that he hired an unaccomplished college position coach in Greg Mattison to become our DC, successfully producing some of the worst Ravens defenses we've seen. Passed over all the quality people in-house, and somehow convinced management to let him reduce the Ravens coaching staff to something he uses to shore up his friendships. Now, we are loaded with a cast of reject coaches(mostly from Philadelphia) with absolutely nothing to show for it. (2) One of the first things Harbaugh did when he got to Baltimore was to summon Ray Lewis and tell him that he was no longer allowed to do his pre-game dance. It didn't matter to Harbaugh that his teammates and the fans look forward to that dance, it got them fired-up and it was pretty much tradition with the Ravens. Nah, it was now 'the harbaugh show' and he was selfishly going to do things his way...forget the Ravens way! Ray Lewis, being the wise fellow he is did not take offense to it, but told him to consult with the rest of the team before reaching that decision...the rest of the players told Harbaugh that there was no way he could get rid of the dance! Ray Lewis steadied the ship for Harbaugh many times over the years, whenever his head-scratching decisions irked a veteran team, but with that initial selfish and egotistical move, he could have completely alienated the best player on his team, if not the whole team. Sure, it's not all Harbaugh's fault, but his fragile ego would never let him hire the right coaches who coach the Ravens' way, thus he's impeding the progress of this team. I expect many to disagree with me, but two years from now when we're still mired in mediocrity some of you would come around. Happy holidays!

Yes I'm sure he is really upset that you don't like him. I would imagine you would feel differently had we won. Fans always blame the coach when things go sour. I'm sure you hated him when we were in the playoffs constantly or when we won the SB. Fickle fans. Happy New Year.

I agree with everything you say. I was one of many who said out of the gate when Ray, Ed and others were gone Harbaugh's lack of skill and foundation would take this team down. It has. I didn't think he was a good coach when we were winning and guess what I still think he is sorely lacking. He will be and we will be just as mediocre next year.

I've said many times I don't think he's a bad man. I do believe he's a mediocre coach. I also believe time has proven that statement.

Everyone moans and groans about Joe having 9 yrs at QB and not improving. I believe he has improved a lot.

Lets look at Harbaugh he's had 9 yrs to learn how to be a head coach, he still makes the same bone headed mistakes, he still lies, he still can't manage the clock and we still slow up for games so woefully unprepared it's criminal. Think Raiders, think Pats, boy that was a big one. Look at Sundays game Bell ran over all over us. Why.

I doesn't appear that any coach on this team watches a second of film. Game plans don't exist, in game corrections don't exist, half time adjustments don't exist WHY?

Next year we will have the same bad coaches, coaching badly. We will be the same full of heart and desire mediocre team we are right now. Because all the mediocre asst coaches and positions coaches will still be here. Terrific..................

Well Ray and Ed and others were here when we were had losing seasons before Harbaugh got here. And as soon as he took the reins we were in the playoffs for many years in a row. How do you explain THAT!

Agree. The Ravens played out the schedule on 2007 with zero desire which lead to 5-11 and got Bellick fired. Ngata, Suggs, Reed, Ray all on board for that sunken ship.

[whobilly]

regardless of how the offense finally played,it is time to draft a DAK PRESCOTT and another shutdown corner,J. SMITH can not be counted on and he really is not a true shutdown corner when he's healthy,i only hope we lose to CINCY next sunday.we need the draft pick.

Because so many teams nail it with drafting a QB in the 4th round.

[leziRav]

  5 hours ago, ravens4life86 said:

Totally disagree on saying this team didnt underachieve, Eisenberg.
Any time you miss the playoffs you under achieve if your the Ravens organization, any time you dont make any kind of playoff run its a bad season.
Last year was a fluke because 20plus injuries, this year was 2 fold season long lack of commitment to running the football, which eventually would catch up to this team and Jimmy Smith being injured in the biggesr games.(Nyg,Steelers,Cowboys,Pats) all probably very different outcomes if Jimmy could stay healtier throughout his career.
Finally Steve B put the hammer down on demanding pass rush last year, yet they passed over local stud Yannik Nkaqwe, Noah Spence and many others for bums and nice guys like Correa and Koufusis.
We are done with nice guys. How many times does Mike Preston have to say it, fans, hosts on 1057 the fan, we need the edgy, nasty players back.
They better draft 1-2 15 sack dpoy von miller, sizzle in his prime type edge rushers this year, and another elite cb since jimmy is always hurt

My wish would be
Ravens are currently sitting at 16
Rnd 1 pk 16
Olbr/de charles Harris Mizzou, Barnett Tenn, Smoot Illinois
Rnd 2 Cb Tredavious White Lsu, Jordin Lewis Mich, Cordea Tankersley Clem,
Rnd 3 Amarah Darboh Wr, Dede Westbrook Wr,
Rnd 3 comp for KO Budda Baker S/CB, Eddie Jackson S
Rnd 4 OG /NT Mason Cole mich, Vanderdoes ucla,
Rnd 5 NT/OG

Ravens are current sitting at 17 pk. Depend on Sunday game, we can go as high at 14pk or as low as 20pk. Maybe we should use some of our TEs in a trade and move up high to draft a game changer. There are few teams up in the draft that need TEs and WR. We have right now Pitta, Gilmore, Boyle, Max, Waller, Watson. We won't need all of them next year. Trading couple of them to move up will be nice.
Also we will need a nasty/starter center/G, maybe in 2nd, 3rd rounds or trade.
On the other side, don't give up on Correi and Kaufusi. Let see their development. Maybe next year we will be able to judge them.

Actually our best scenario will be pk 15 not 14. If both the Saints and Titans win and we lose Sunday then we will be at pk 15.
source:
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2016/12/24/14076782/nfl-draft-order-2017-49ers-browns-bears-jaguars

[ellicottraven]

Get rid of the coaches that were ineffective and if necessary Steve needs to step in and let John know if he wants to be loyal at the cost of the team, then he'll be let go as well. I think John deserves another year as HC and see if he can get this team back to the promised land. But, this will be his last chance. We have been terrible after the uncharacteristic SB win. If Rex can be brought back I am all for it, but importantly the offense needs fixing and Flacco needs a really good QB coach that can help him succeed.

[whobilly]

with the way the front office has drafted since 09' they should use every pick in the draft on cb's and pray some of them pan out and stay healthy. hehehe

The lack of quality impact players over the last seven years have contributed to our mediocre status. A few solid picks but for the most part LOTS of roster fillers.

[TheConquerorWorm]

Didn't even bother to read whatever Eisenberg wrote up there. Anything short of firing Harbaugh won't result in much progress. The Ravens need fiery, demanding and no-nonsense coaches that would provide accountability and leadership that the Ravens so clearly lack. Problem is, Harbaugh never hires that kind, he detests them, and only hires washed up, docile types that are just grateful to have a job.

-I've thoroughly studied Harbaugh, and I just don't like him as a head coach. I'll throw out two instances(of many) that are very telling: (1). Still boggles my mind that he hired an unaccomplished college position coach in Greg Mattison to become our DC, successfully producing some of the worst Ravens defenses we've seen. Passed over all the quality people in-house, and somehow convinced management to let him reduce the Ravens coaching staff to something he uses to shore up his friendships. Now, we are loaded with a cast of reject coaches(mostly from Philadelphia) with absolutely nothing to show for it. (2) One of the first things Harbaugh did when he got to Baltimore was to summon Ray Lewis and tell him that he was no longer allowed to do his pre-game dance. It didn't matter to Harbaugh that his teammates and the fans look forward to that dance, it got them fired-up and it was pretty much tradition with the Ravens. Nah, it was now 'the harbaugh show' and he was selfishly going to do things his way...forget the Ravens way! Ray Lewis, being the wise fellow he is did not take offense to it, but told him to consult with the rest of the team before reaching that decision...the rest of the players told Harbaugh that there was no way he could get rid of the dance! Ray Lewis steadied the ship for Harbaugh many times over the years, whenever his head-scratching decisions irked a veteran team, but with that initial selfish and egotistical move, he could have completely alienated the best player on his team, if not the whole team. Sure, it's not all Harbaugh's fault, but his fragile ego would never let him hire the right coaches who coach the Ravens' way, thus he's impeding the progress of this team. I expect many to disagree with me, but two years from now when we're still mired in mediocrity some of you would come around. Happy holidays!

LOL at you calling Leslie Frazier, Hue Jackson, Chuck Pagano, Gary Kubiak & Jim Caldwell "washed up, docile types that are just grateful to have a job"

1. Wrong. Mattison was the Ravens LB coach before he got promoted to DC, so Harbaugh did promote in-house. Ray Lewis & Terrell Suggs lobbied for Mattison to take over as the DC. As far as unaccomplished - I think you need to go back and watch the defenses of Florida when they won those National Championships - Mattison was the co-DC not a position coach. Before that, he was the DC for the Michigan D that led the Big 10 four years in a row.

2. Marvin Lewis said the same thing - that the dance was "nonsense". It's typical of most "old school" coaches. Same with celebrations in the end-zone - they hate it. And it wasn't close to "the 1st thing he did".

[CQ1]

Didn't we hear this spiel last year ?
Sure- a little chicken poo here or there along with a little doo doo to the stew, will fix 'er ....then presto- you gotcher chicken salad......again!

[mhedge]

I think its the coaches. I also think Harbaugh and Pees will be back. Harbs refuses to touch the Defense unless the coordinator leaves on their own. Think Mattison. And even though I think the #2 ranking was all smoke and mirrors I think thats what they'll point to when they decide to keep him. I'm just wondering how we can expect Flacco to make sure we're up by at least 28 pts in the 4th qrter every week so we can get the win.

[Glen1024]

1 hour ago, sami said:

Well Ray and Ed and others were here when we were had losing seasons before Harbaugh got here. And as soon as he took the reins we were in the playoffs for many years in a row. How do you explain THAT!

One word "quarterback" 13-3 with mcnair 5-11 the next without him....rookie d2 qb and rookie special teams coach was carried (dominant run game, ferocious defense) to the afc championship game

[Legendary Ravens]

Next Year Eisenberg? Are you adapting to the Ravens Harb Years Post Ray Lewis Era? This article is a 5-11 article... its losing us.. Not you Eisenberg, we are not going to let your colums become soft. Get your pen game together and fire this site up like you always do during hard times. Let's Go

[TheConquerorWorm]

  7 hours ago, ravens4life86 said:

Totally disagree on saying this team didnt underachieve, Eisenberg.
Any time you miss the playoffs you under achieve if your the Ravens organization, any time you dont make any kind of playoff run its a bad season.
Last year was a fluke because 20plus injuries, this year was 2 fold season long lack of commitment to running the football, which eventually would catch up to this team and Jimmy Smith being injured in the biggesr games.(Nyg,Steelers,Cowboys,Pats) all probably very different outcomes if Jimmy could stay healtier throughout his career.
Finally Steve B put the hammer down on demanding pass rush last year, yet they passed over local stud Yannik Nkaqwe, Noah Spence and many others for bums and nice guys like Correa and Koufusis.
We are done with nice guys. How many times does Mike Preston have to say it, fans, hosts on 1057 the fan, we need the edgy, nasty players back.
They better draft 1-2 15 sack dpoy von miller, sizzle in his prime type edge rushers this year, and another elite cb since jimmy is always hurt

My wish would be
Ravens are currently sitting at 16
Rnd 1 pk 16
Olbr/de charles Harris Mizzou, Barnett Tenn, Smoot Illinois
Rnd 2 Cb Tredavious White Lsu, Jordin Lewis Mich, Cordea Tankersley Clem,
Rnd 3 Amarah Darboh Wr, Dede Westbrook Wr,
Rnd 3 comp for KO Budda Baker S/CB, Eddie Jackson S
Rnd 4 OG /NT Mason Cole mich, Vanderdoes ucla,
Rnd 5 NT/OG

Ravens are current sitting at 17 pk. Depend on Sunday game, we can go as high at 14pk or as low as 20pk. Maybe we should use some of our TEs in a trade and move up high to draft a game changer. There are few teams up in the draft that need TEs and WR. We have right now Pitta, Gilmore, Boyle, Max, Waller, Watson. We won't need all of them next year. Trading couple of them to move up will be nice.
Also we will need a nasty/starter center/G, maybe in 2nd, 3rd rounds or trade.
On the other side, don't give up on Correi and Kaufusi. Let see their development. Maybe next year we will be able to judge them.

We don't need to move up - there are plenty of shutdown corners in this draft - Tabor/King/Humphrey that will be there at 15-20. Tyler Orlosky is the nasty C that you want - maybe 3rd or 4th round.

[Bohica5]

eisenberg Wake up!!!!!!!!!! Hopefully ............."Few changes" meant harby is Gone!!?? Wake up john!

[Bohica5]

Didn't we hear this spiel last year ?
Sure- a little chicken poo here or there along with a little doo doo to the stew, will fix 'er ....then presto- you gotcher chicken salad......again!

hopefully witout harby....the ultimate chicken......

[hen826957]

You guys argue way to much and it's starting to get annoying. Whats done is done. Just improve and get better next year. Always next year.

[MdPride1]

Ozzie Newsome needs to go! You guys can keep trying to put the blame on harbaugh but Ozzie has missed on pick after pick. Mosley, Jernigan, K.O. and Brandon Williams are honestly the only good picks since 2011.

We could've traded our 3rd round pick to grab Jalen Ramsey, who has graded as one of the best corners in the league in the last 4 weeks, but Ozzie said no. Instead all we had to show for a top 10 selection was a freaking left tackle who missed almost half the season.

Let's not forget that "3rd round pick"(Bronson kaufusi) turned into a player who missed the whole season. In turn, our 2016 draft has been an abomination thus far. Ozzie continues to invest picks in the defensive line(kaufusi, Carl Davis) when we should've been selecting DB's, OL & WR.

Let us not forget that he didn't think STEFON DIGGS was worth a 3rd to 5th round pick, which could've solved our kick/punt return dilemma and also given our offense a playmaker it so desperately needs.

Osemele made the pro bowl again this year, maybe we should've resigned him and made him our left tackle or even kept him at guard. I know he got paid but we didn't have the cap room available because of other moves Ozzie decided to make.

How do you guys not think that this team wouldn't be better if Ozzie hadn't missed on so many draft picks in the last 4-5 years?

Hindsight is 20/20 but after our draft failed to address the secondary. I thought we would be 8-8 at best. Look how that turned out.

Need I say more?