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[News] Eisenberg: With A Few Changes, Ravens Can Be Pretty Darn Good Next Year

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Ravens can be good next year and they did improve from last year to this year. I liked the additions of Wallace and Weddle each one brought something to this team . I hope Oz drafts at the very least 1 O-Lineman if not 2 for the future. Oz built this team through the draft and also by adding a free agent for the right price here and there. I think the biggest hole to fill because of his retirement will be SSS he has the ability to get the team fired up. As far as the coordinators go that's a hard 1. I personally have mixed feelings about replacing them some ways I think it would be better in other ways I think they deserve another shot.

how many shots for pees every year we lose games we should win in the 4th quarter he's horrible at half time adjustments and his soft and off coverage stinks who lets receivers catch the ball with the defender 10 YARDS away that's just stupid coaching and its the same year after year as for morningwig the pass play called in eagles game 1st down at eagles 12 6min left and you don't run the ball that says it all about marty marty won't be back pees shouldn't be but not sure harbaugh should be gone but they wont this year

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if pagano and todd bowles are fired. would either of them or gus bradley be an improvement over dean pees? i agree that rex would not come back here. defense gave up too many 4th qtr leads. they were not bad but i believe the statistics were padded because we played a lot of poor offenses. could not generate pressure on the qb's in crunch time. cb/pass rush must be addressed yet once again. z smith was inactive pretty much the last half of the season and correia was useless. judon showed promise but suggs and doom will be even slower next season. harbs job will depend on him finding the right oc and not sabotaging him with ridiculous 4th down calls when we have the best kicker in football. 2 of the losses fall on harbs because of his stupid 4th down calls. aside from norv turner i am not too sure who is out there that can turn this offense around but this team will have to find him. some of the position coaches on offense should be evaluated and replaced if needed. i personally am not a fan of castillo. the line has not been smash mouth since he has been here. this team needs guys with attitude on both sides of the ball and instead of stockpiling picks and drafting players that we will cut in camp pkg them so we can move up and grab some game changers. enough with the safe picks. perriman, williams, urban, davis, correia, z smith etc.. etc.. have to show up next season.

the water boy would be an improvement over pees

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Didn't even bother to read whatever Eisenberg wrote up there. Anything short of firing Harbaugh won't result in much progress. The Ravens need fiery, demanding and no-nonsense coaches that would provide accountability and leadership that the Ravens so clearly lack. Problem is, Harbaugh never hires that kind, he detests them, and only hires washed up, docile types that are just grateful to have a job.

-I've thoroughly studied Harbaugh, and I just don't like him as a head coach. I'll throw out two instances(of many) that are very telling: (1). Still boggles my mind that he hired an unaccomplished college position coach in Greg Mattison to become our DC, successfully producing some of the worst Ravens defenses we've seen. Passed over all the quality people in-house, and somehow convinced management to let him reduce the Ravens coaching staff to something he uses to shore up his friendships. Now, we are loaded with a cast of reject coaches(mostly from Philadelphia) with absolutely nothing to show for it. (2) One of the first things Harbaugh did when he got to Baltimore was to summon Ray Lewis and tell him that he was no longer allowed to do his pre-game dance. It didn't matter to Harbaugh that his teammates and the fans look forward to that dance, it got them fired-up and it was pretty much tradition with the Ravens. Nah, it was now 'the harbaugh show' and he was selfishly going to do things his way...forget the Ravens way! Ray Lewis, being the wise fellow he is did not take offense to it, but told him to consult with the rest of the team before reaching that decision...the rest of the players told Harbaugh that there was no way he could get rid of the dance! Ray Lewis steadied the ship for Harbaugh many times over the years, whenever his head-scratching decisions irked a veteran team, but with that initial selfish and egotistical move, he could have completely alienated the best player on his team, if not the whole team. Sure, it's not all Harbaugh's fault, but his fragile ego would never let him hire the right coaches who coach the Ravens' way, thus he's impeding the progress of this team. I expect many to disagree with me, but two years from now when we're still mired in mediocrity some of you would come around. Happy holidays!

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I wish I could fast forward to April, draft day..
Pass rush pass rush pass rush.. and another top tier cb, og, Nt/dt (likely replacing Williams) WR or 2, and S to replace a cut Webby or learn from to eventually take over.

Rnd 1, no.1 Elite Edge rusher. Barnett, Harris, Smoot OLBrs/De
Rnd 2, Fields, Taco Charlton,Lawson, D.Walker, T.McKinley olbr/Des
Rnd 3 Jordin Lewis, Cameron Sutton, Budda Baker CBs
Rnd 3 comp OG Johnson, Siragusa, Cole
Rnd 4 Vanderdoes,Lutuleili, NT/DT
Rnd 5, WRs Artavis Scott, Amba Etta Tawa
Rnd 6

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We've found a franchise RB in Kennith Dixon

hope we keep west as well. i like the combo of the 2 but would like to see dixon be the lead dog of the pack. like to see juice get some carries as well

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Didn't even bother to read whatever Eisenberg wrote up there. Anything short of firing Harbaugh won't result in much progress. The Ravens need fiery, demanding and no-nonsense coaches that would provide accountability and leadership that the Ravens so clearly lack. Problem is, Harbaugh never hires that kind, he detests them, and only hires washed up, docile types that are just grateful to have a job.

-I've thoroughly studied Harbaugh, and I just don't like him as a head coach. I'll throw out two instances(of many) that are very telling: (1). Still boggles my mind that he hired an unaccomplished college position coach in Greg Mattison to become our DC, successfully producing some of the worst Ravens defenses we've seen. Passed over all the quality people in-house, and somehow convinced management to let him reduce the Ravens coaching staff to something he uses to shore up his friendships. Now, we are loaded with a cast of reject coaches(mostly from Philadelphia) with absolutely nothing to show for it. (2) One of the first things Harbaugh did when he got to Baltimore was to summon Ray Lewis and tell him that he was no longer allowed to do his pre-game dance. It didn't matter to Harbaugh that his teammates and the fans look forward to that dance, it got them fired-up and it was pretty much tradition with the Ravens. Nah, it was now 'the harbaugh show' and he was selfishly going to do things his way...forget the Ravens way! Ray Lewis, being the wise fellow he is did not take offense to it, but told him to consult with the rest of the team before reaching that decision...the rest of the players told Harbaugh that there was no way he could get rid of the dance! Ray Lewis steadied the ship for Harbaugh many times over the years, whenever his head-scratching decisions irked a veteran team, but with that initial selfish and egotistical move, he could have completely alienated the best player on his team, if not the whole team. Sure, it's not all Harbaugh's fault, but his fragile ego would never let him hire the right coaches who coach the Ravens' way, thus he's impeding the progress of this team. I expect many to disagree with me, but two years from now when we're still mired in mediocrity some of you would come around. Happy holidays!

I for one agree with you 100%

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8 minutes ago, ravens4life86 said:

I wish I could fast forward to April, draft day..
Pass rush pass rush pass rush.. and another top tier cb, og, Nt/dt (likely replacing Williams) WR or 2, and S to replace a cut Webby or learn from to eventually take over.

Rnd 1, no.1 Elite Edge rusher. Barnett, Harris, Smoot OLBrs/De
Rnd 2, Fields, Taco Charlton,Lawson, D.Walker, T.McKinley olbr/Des
Rnd 3 Jordin Lewis, Cameron Sutton, Budda Baker CBs
Rnd 3 comp OG Johnson, Siragusa, Cole
Rnd 4 Vanderdoes,Lutuleili, NT/DT
Rnd 5, WRs Artavis Scott, Amba Etta Tawa
Rnd 6

You forgot Center.

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30 minutes ago, jsarrocohome@yahoo.com said:

how many shots for pees every year we lose games we should win in the 4th quarter he's horrible at half time adjustments and his soft and off coverage stinks who lets receivers catch the ball with the defender 10 YARDS away that's just stupid coaching and its the same year after year as for morningwig the pass play called in eagles game 1st down at eagles 12 6min left and you don't run the ball that says it all about marty marty won't be back pees shouldn't be but not sure harbaugh should be gone but they wont this year

Pees claims he doesn't have the horses to play press. I agree to an extent, I mean the secondary looks like a bunch of runts tailing the opposition

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10 minutes ago, ravens4life86 said:

I wish I could fast forward to April, draft day..
Pass rush pass rush pass rush.. and another top tier cb, og, Nt/dt (likely replacing Williams) WR or 2, and S to replace a cut Webby or learn from to eventually take over.

Rnd 1, no.1 Elite Edge rusher. Barnett, Harris, Smoot OLBrs/De
Rnd 2, Fields, Taco Charlton,Lawson, D.Walker, T.McKinley olbr/Des
Rnd 3 Jordin Lewis, Cameron Sutton, Budda Baker CBs
Rnd 3 comp OG Johnson, Siragusa, Cole
Rnd 4 Vanderdoes,Lutuleili, NT/DT
Rnd 5, WRs Artavis Scott, Amba Etta Tawa
Rnd 6

If Taco isn't selected in the first round there should be 32 GM's canned.

Still way early but Desmond King comes to mind. Please, lets not go into 2017 with Shareece any where near the top of the depth chart.

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I'm as bummed as the next guy that our season is over. It's always hard to face that reality. But as an organization, we have been in it every year, for the most part. Do we have issues with certain players and coaches? Yes. But most teams do. All you people clamoring to blow up the coaching staff and roster are just upset and need to chill. We ended the season in fairly good health except for Alex Lewis and Jimmy Smith. We're going to possibly lose a veteran or two. At least we know where Joe is at with his knee. Stanley did very well in his first year, barring the injury. Perriman needs to just keep getting out there. Pitta looked good. Dixon and West can get it done, but we need to commit. My final thought, and I say this every year: The game is won or lost in the trenches. Bolster the O and D lines and the rest falls into place. I hope the FO takes that approach in the draft and FA.

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Totally disagree on saying this team didnt underachieve, Eisenberg.
Any time you miss the playoffs you under achieve if your the Ravens organization, any time you dont make any kind of playoff run its a bad season.
Last year was a fluke because 20plus injuries, this year was 2 fold season long lack of commitment to running the football, which eventually would catch up to this team and Jimmy Smith being injured in the biggesr games.(Nyg,Steelers,Cowboys,Pats) all probably very different outcomes if Jimmy could stay healtier throughout his career.
Finally Steve B put the hammer down on demanding pass rush last year, yet they passed over local stud Yannik Nkaqwe, Noah Spence and many others for bums and nice guys like Correa and Koufusis.
We are done with nice guys. How many times does Mike Preston have to say it, fans, hosts on 1057 the fan, we need the edgy, nasty players back.
They better draft 1-2 15 sack dpoy von miller, sizzle in his prime type edge rushers this year, and another elite cb since jimmy is always hurt

My wish would be
Ravens are currently sitting at 16
Rnd 1 pk 16
Olbr/de charles Harris Mizzou, Barnett Tenn, Smoot Illinois
Rnd 2 Cb Tredavious White Lsu, Jordin Lewis Mich, Cordea Tankersley Clem,
Rnd 3 Amarah Darboh Wr, Dede Westbrook Wr,
Rnd 3 comp for KO Budda Baker S/CB, Eddie Jackson S
Rnd 4 OG /NT Mason Cole mich, Vanderdoes ucla,
Rnd 5 NT/OG

Yeah, cause 15 sack pass rushers are so easy to find. And no way I draft your guys in the 1st round over CB Tabor/King/Humphrey. Charles Harris is a good pass rusher but he's a liability in coverage especially in a 3-4 defense. Don't know that you spend a Top 1st Round pick on a guy that will only play passing downs. More Dumervil than Von Miller. Barnett is more Courtney Upshaw than Suggs. I like Smoot too but he's a DE in a 4-3 and like the others - a liability in coverage. Still don't draft those guys over a true shut-down corner.

My draft wish list would look like this:
1. CB Tabor/King/Humphrey
2. CB Jourdan Lewis/Tankersley
3. S Marcus Williams
3C. OLB Harold Landry
4. C Tyler Orlosky
5. KR/RB T.J. Logan

Adding CB King & Lewis to Jimmy Smith & Tavon would finally put to bed the lack of CB in this secondary. S Marcus Williams is a play-making FS and would compliment Weddle perfectly. Landry is an underrated pass rusher from a smaller school (15 sacks, 7 FF). Orlovsky is that "nasty" type of o-lineman you want. Logan is an explosive KR that can also serve as that "scat-back" type of RB.

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33 minutes ago, jsarrocohome@yahoo.com said:

how many shots for pees every year we lose games we should win in the 4th quarter he's horrible at half time adjustments and his soft and off coverage stinks who lets receivers catch the ball with the defender 10 YARDS away that's just stupid coaching and its the same year after year as for morningwig the pass play called in eagles game 1st down at eagles 12 6min left and you don't run the ball that says it all about marty marty won't be back pees shouldn't be but not sure harbaugh should be gone but they wont this year

Like I said I have mixed feelings about it I do agree with the points you made. The reason I have mixed feeling is 1. Pees defense has won us a title. 2.How many times did his defense just come right back on the field after a 3 and out by the offense? Don't you think at times the defense was tired? That last point falls on the offense and offensive play calling but in Marty's case he did not have much of a chance to see what he can do for us Just a little over half a season. Yes sometimes I think I would like to see new coordinators and thats the reason I said I had mixed feeling about it.

1 minute ago, Drew P said:

Pees claims he doesn't have the horses to play press. I agree to an extent, I mean the secondary looks like a bunch of runts tailing the opposition

We need some depth in the secondary and a real thumper at safety I like Weddles sure tackling but Webb at times was a liability. Young is smaller but he sure showed some flash for a younger guy.

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1 minute ago, RavenLunatic said:

I'm as bummed as the next guy that our season is over. It's always hard to face that reality. But as an organization, we have been in it every year, for the most part. Do we have issues with certain players and coaches? Yes. But most teams do. All you people clamoring to blow up the coaching staff and roster are just upset and need to chill. We ended the season in fairly good health except for Alex Lewis and Jimmy Smith. We're going to possibly lose a veteran or two. At least we know where Joe is at with his knee. Stanley did very well in his first year, barring the injury. Perriman needs to just keep getting out there. Pitta looked good. Dixon and West can get it done, but we need to commit. My final thought, and I say this every year: The game is won or lost in the trenches. Bolster the O and D lines and the rest falls into place. I hope the FO takes that approach in the draft and FA.

Not blow it up but some changes at the coordinator spot wouldn't hurt. I mean the D is spineless and been the Achilles heel for years now...a culture change on that side is needed. It was interesting watching the game with my father on Sunday (who is not an avid watcher) and the first thing he said is what happened to their good defensive players?

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@DrewP I follow all the mocks closely just for Ravens future player purposes, and majority of them have Charlton in 2nd round.
As for King hes pretty strong 1st rounder so.. Ravens would have to take a cb 1st rnd to take him. But at 16 they could probably get Adoree Jackson or Tabor a better CB prospect.

Pass rush is most important though... gotta get 2 impact 3down (15 sack a yr)dpoy type edge rushers to replace Dumervil and sizzle when he retires.

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Didn't even bother to read whatever Eisenberg wrote up there. Anything short of firing Harbaugh won't result in much progress. The Ravens need fiery, demanding and no-nonsense coaches that would provide accountability and leadership that the Ravens so clearly lack. Problem is, Harbaugh never hires that kind, he detests them, and only hires washed up, docile types that are just grateful to have a job.

-I've thoroughly studied Harbaugh, and I just don't like him as a head coach. I'll throw out two instances(of many) that are very telling: (1). Still boggles my mind that he hired an unaccomplished college position coach in Greg Mattison to become our DC, successfully producing some of the worst Ravens defenses we've seen. Passed over all the quality people in-house, and somehow convinced management to let him reduce the Ravens coaching staff to something he uses to shore up his friendships. Now, we are loaded with a cast of reject coaches(mostly from Philadelphia) with absolutely nothing to show for it. (2) One of the first things Harbaugh did when he got to Baltimore was to summon Ray Lewis and tell him that he was no longer allowed to do his pre-game dance. It didn't matter to Harbaugh that his teammates and the fans look forward to that dance, it got them fired-up and it was pretty much tradition with the Ravens. Nah, it was now 'the harbaugh show' and he was selfishly going to do things his way...forget the Ravens way! Ray Lewis, being the wise fellow he is did not take offense to it, but told him to consult with the rest of the team before reaching that decision...the rest of the players told Harbaugh that there was no way he could get rid of the dance! Ray Lewis steadied the ship for Harbaugh many times over the years, whenever his head-scratching decisions irked a veteran team, but with that initial selfish and egotistical move, he could have completely alienated the best player on his team, if not the whole team. Sure, it's not all Harbaugh's fault, but his fragile ego would never let him hire the right coaches who coach the Ravens' way, thus he's impeding the progress of this team. I expect many to disagree with me, but two years from now when we're still mired in mediocrity some of you would come around. Happy holidays!

Yes I'm sure he is really upset that you don't like him. I would imagine you would feel differently had we won. Fans always blame the coach when things go sour. I'm sure you hated him when we were in the playoffs constantly or when we won the SB. Fickle fans. Happy New Year.

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any team will be really good with a few changes. that being said, If Harbaugh gets fired this team will go even more down hill, He's a good coach, good coaches are really hard to find. Now in the other Pees needs to go, never taught he was a good DC, Bring back Rex Ryan!!

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  1 hour ago, jsarrocohome@yahoo.com said:

how many shots for pees every year we lose games we should win in the 4th quarter he's horrible at half time adjustments and his soft and off coverage stinks who lets receivers catch the ball with the defender 10 YARDS away that's just stupid coaching and its the same year after year as for morningwig the pass play called in eagles game 1st down at eagles 12 6min left and you don't run the ball that says it all about marty marty won't be back pees shouldn't be but not sure harbaugh should be gone but they wont this year

Pees claims he doesn't have the horses to play press. I agree to an extent, I mean the secondary looks like a bunch of runts tailing the opposition

If he doesn't have the horses than we should look at the one doing the shopping Dallas Defense seems to playing well with a lot UFA's

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  2 hours ago, Ravensfansince03 said:

We've found a franchise RB in Kennith Dixon

hope we keep west as well. i like the combo of the 2 but would like to see dixon be the lead dog of the pack. like to see juice get some carries as well

I don't care who leads as long as we keep and play them both if used Properly this season we would have one the division

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@Conquererworm, 15 sack pass rushers hard to find?? Are your serious?
Von Miller, JJ Watt, Khalil Mack, Justin Houston, The guys who the Ravens passes over last year.. they dont have 15 sacks but they have that talent. Noah Spence and local product in the 3rd round Terp Yannik Ngkwe for jags. Both have like 8-10 sacks. So dont say these dpoy type sack machines are hard to find.
Stop picking nice guys like correa, start picking ballers like Noah Spence regardless if he has a weed issue.
Jerry Jones and billy b in boston are lapping the field taking in these guys

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with the way the front office has drafted since 09' they should use every pick in the draft on cb's and pray some of them pan out and stay healthy. hehehe

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This article is so full it, it's hard to take seriously. I don't think the Ravens have improved much at all from 2015. They still have the same issues they had the prior year: blowing leads, no running game, questionable coaching, very boring to watch, just to name a few.

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It wouldn't hurt my feelings if CJH was gone, but he's not awful by any stretch, I just don't think he's good enough to make good into great. Joe is a taller version of Eli. We can win with him but as someone stated earlier, other things have to be in place. I believe The Ravens can succeed with CJH & JF @ QB if three things happen...

1. They are surrounded with excellent coordinators. I don't believe either of them are great, but the right coordinators can really elevate both.

2. I love Ozzie and his staff, but we should get MORE aggressive with our drafts. Value is great but we need studs! Frankly, if JS @ CB is our best, we should make it our mission to do better.

3. Mr. Biscotti should loosen up the purse strings (which is relevant for point #2 also). Improvement can come quickly with FA a la NY Giants this year. They got a pass rusher, a really good CB, et al.

I don't like the Patriots, but those cats are ruthless when it comes to staying on top. Not making the playoffs might be a blessing because it will DEMAND changes.

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This article is so full it, it's hard to take seriously. I don't think the Ravens have improved much at all from 2015. They still have the same issues they had the prior year: blowing leads, no running game, questionable coaching, very boring to watch, just to name a few.

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  1 hour ago, thegooddoc456 said:

Didn't even bother to read whatever Eisenberg wrote up there. Anything short of firing Harbaugh won't result in much progress. The Ravens need fiery, demanding and no-nonsense coaches that would provide accountability and leadership that the Ravens so clearly lack. Problem is, Harbaugh never hires that kind, he detests them, and only hires washed up, docile types that are just grateful to have a job.

-I've thoroughly studied Harbaugh, and I just don't like him as a head coach. I'll throw out two instances(of many) that are very telling: (1). Still boggles my mind that he hired an unaccomplished college position coach in Greg Mattison to become our DC, successfully producing some of the worst Ravens defenses we've seen. Passed over all the quality people in-house, and somehow convinced management to let him reduce the Ravens coaching staff to something he uses to shore up his friendships. Now, we are loaded with a cast of reject coaches(mostly from Philadelphia) with absolutely nothing to show for it. (2) One of the first things Harbaugh did when he got to Baltimore was to summon Ray Lewis and tell him that he was no longer allowed to do his pre-game dance. It didn't matter to Harbaugh that his teammates and the fans look forward to that dance, it got them fired-up and it was pretty much tradition with the Ravens. Nah, it was now 'the harbaugh show' and he was selfishly going to do things his way...forget the Ravens way! Ray Lewis, being the wise fellow he is did not take offense to it, but told him to consult with the rest of the team before reaching that decision...the rest of the players told Harbaugh that there was no way he could get rid of the dance! Ray Lewis steadied the ship for Harbaugh many times over the years, whenever his head-scratching decisions irked a veteran team, but with that initial selfish and egotistical move, he could have completely alienated the best player on his team, if not the whole team. Sure, it's not all Harbaugh's fault, but his fragile ego would never let him hire the right coaches who coach the Ravens' way, thus he's impeding the progress of this team. I expect many to disagree with me, but two years from now when we're still mired in mediocrity some of you would come around. Happy holidays!

I for one agree with you 100%

I agre as well.

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  1 hour ago, jsarrocohome@yahoo.com said:
  1 hour ago, thegooddoc456 said:

Didn't even bother to read whatever Eisenberg wrote up there. Anything short of firing Harbaugh won't result in much progress. The Ravens need fiery, demanding and no-nonsense coaches that would provide accountability and leadership that the Ravens so clearly lack. Problem is, Harbaugh never hires that kind, he detests them, and only hires washed up, docile types that are just grateful to have a job.

-I've thoroughly studied Harbaugh, and I just don't like him as a head coach. I'll throw out two instances(of many) that are very telling: (1). Still boggles my mind that he hired an unaccomplished college position coach in Greg Mattison to become our DC, successfully producing some of the worst Ravens defenses we've seen. Passed over all the quality people in-house, and somehow convinced management to let him reduce the Ravens coaching staff to something he uses to shore up his friendships. Now, we are loaded with a cast of reject coaches(mostly from Philadelphia) with absolutely nothing to show for it. (2) One of the first things Harbaugh did when he got to Baltimore was to summon Ray Lewis and tell him that he was no longer allowed to do his pre-game dance. It didn't matter to Harbaugh that his teammates and the fans look forward to that dance, it got them fired-up and it was pretty much tradition with the Ravens. Nah, it was now 'the harbaugh show' and he was selfishly going to do things his way...forget the Ravens way! Ray Lewis, being the wise fellow he is did not take offense to it, but told him to consult with the rest of the team before reaching that decision...the rest of the players told Harbaugh that there was no way he could get rid of the dance! Ray Lewis steadied the ship for Harbaugh many times over the years, whenever his head-scratching decisions irked a veteran team, but with that initial selfish and egotistical move, he could have completely alienated the best player on his team, if not the whole team. Sure, it's not all Harbaugh's fault, but his fragile ego would never let him hire the right coaches who coach the Ravens' way, thus he's impeding the progress of this team. I expect many to disagree with me, but two years from now when we're still mired in mediocrity some of you would come around. Happy holidays!

I for one agree with you 100%

I agre as well.

I agree as well. John Harbaugh seems just a little too self righteous.

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  1 hour ago, thegooddoc456 said:

Didn't even bother to read whatever Eisenberg wrote up there. Anything short of firing Harbaugh won't result in much progress. The Ravens need fiery, demanding and no-nonsense coaches that would provide accountability and leadership that the Ravens so clearly lack. Problem is, Harbaugh never hires that kind, he detests them, and only hires washed up, docile types that are just grateful to have a job.

-I've thoroughly studied Harbaugh, and I just don't like him as a head coach. I'll throw out two instances(of many) that are very telling: (1). Still boggles my mind that he hired an unaccomplished college position coach in Greg Mattison to become our DC, successfully producing some of the worst Ravens defenses we've seen. Passed over all the quality people in-house, and somehow convinced management to let him reduce the Ravens coaching staff to something he uses to shore up his friendships. Now, we are loaded with a cast of reject coaches(mostly from Philadelphia) with absolutely nothing to show for it. (2) One of the first things Harbaugh did when he got to Baltimore was to summon Ray Lewis and tell him that he was no longer allowed to do his pre-game dance. It didn't matter to Harbaugh that his teammates and the fans look forward to that dance, it got them fired-up and it was pretty much tradition with the Ravens. Nah, it was now 'the harbaugh show' and he was selfishly going to do things his way...forget the Ravens way! Ray Lewis, being the wise fellow he is did not take offense to it, but told him to consult with the rest of the team before reaching that decision...the rest of the players told Harbaugh that there was no way he could get rid of the dance! Ray Lewis steadied the ship for Harbaugh many times over the years, whenever his head-scratching decisions irked a veteran team, but with that initial selfish and egotistical move, he could have completely alienated the best player on his team, if not the whole team. Sure, it's not all Harbaugh's fault, but his fragile ego would never let him hire the right coaches who coach the Ravens' way, thus he's impeding the progress of this team. I expect many to disagree with me, but two years from now when we're still mired in mediocrity some of you would come around. Happy holidays!

Yes I'm sure he is really upset that you don't like him. I would imagine you would feel differently had we won. Fans always blame the coach when things go sour. I'm sure you hated him when we were in the playoffs constantly or when we won the SB. Fickle fans. Happy New Year.

I agree with everything you say. I was one of many who said out of the gate when Ray, Ed and others were gone Harbaugh's lack of skill and foundation would take this team down. It has. I didn't think he was a good coach when we were winning and guess what I still think he is sorely lacking. He will be and we will be just as mediocre next year.

I've said many times I don't think he's a bad man. I do believe he's a mediocre coach. I also believe time has proven that statement.

Everyone moans and groans about Joe having 9 yrs at QB and not improving. I believe he has improved a lot.

Lets look at Harbaugh he's had 9 yrs to learn how to be a head coach, he still makes the same bone headed mistakes, he still lies, he still can't manage the clock and we still slow up for games so woefully unprepared it's criminal. Think Raiders, think Pats, boy that was a big one. Look at Sundays game Bell ran over all over us. Why.

I doesn't appear that any coach on this team watches a second of film. Game plans don't exist, in game corrections don't exist, half time adjustments don't exist WHY?

Next year we will have the same bad coaches, coaching badly. We will be the same full of heart and desire mediocre team we are right now. Because all the mediocre asst coaches and positions coaches will still be here. Terrific..................

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Well, a 4 game losing streak capped off by the lowly Jets will have something to do with it. Instead of 9-6 and itching to bump Miami out of the playoffs, we're texting for golf appointments come January.

Really need a stud pass rusher, a shutdown CB, and some high quality O-line depth to keep the lanes open for Dixon & West. Don't care whether it's FA or draft - just please get some and stop dinkin' around with has-been's like Hester!

And a little creativity on offense so 12 year-olds aren't accurately predicting plays from their living rooms, please.

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