Week 16: The Good, the Bad and Ugly Comment/Vent/Rant Steeler version

[RayRayRaven]

1 minute ago, Virginia 55 said:

Wow........ this post is completely out of line. 

to rebuild entirely and I think we are there trading flacco would be the cornerstone

[BNat]

39 minutes ago, garfield207 said:

Steelers didn't win this, Ravens lost it.  Muffed field goal, and Waller drop cost them 7 points.

Thats the biggest crock of Crap I ever heard.

[playlikeawhat]

22 minutes ago, 3-4ravdef509 said:

 

Are we just ignoring the dropped passes and touchdowns??

Joe isn't the problem. 

You have to ignore the countless catchable dropped passes so it sounds believable coming out lol.

[RavensRegime]

Josh McDaniels

[robbie29]

2 minutes ago, hen826957 said:

Ravens should hire Norv Turner as a Offensive coordinator and l hate to say it but if John Harbaugh gets fired maybe they should hire Wade Philips as head coach because he could also help the aggressiveness for our defense. 

Dude- with Flacco under center it doesn't matter. We're screwed with Joe.

[Gruntled Ravens Fan]

1 minute ago, Cville-Raven said:

lol people saying fire everybody after a close loss to a better team

Its not just the loss. It includes losses to the Redskins, Giants, and Jets. We were clearly the better team in those games, but bad decisions lost them and now we are in this situation.

[Cville-Raven]

Just now, RayRayRaven said:

to rebuild entirely and I think we are there trading flacco would be the cornerstone

Who is trading for Flacco?

[Ravenskid52752]

Don't know it anybody cares  but flacco has thrown for 4000 yards for the first time in his career. 

Edited December 26, 2016 by Ravenskid52752

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[robbie29]

2 minutes ago, jboy19 said:

Offense: I was pretty happy with Flacco's play. RBs were streaky but had a pretty good showing. Receivers had drops at the worst possible times- Pitta, Aiken, Waller, Perriman. Line had some struggles, but nothing too significant that I saw. I think that the number of coverage sacks was unacceptable and that theres a legitimate problem with Marty being outsmarted by even average DCs. The fact that we saw every receiver covered downfield multiple times during this game is extremely concerning to me. The offense did what they needed to on that last drive though, so I can't fault them too much. But I will say their inability to finish in the first half was fatal. 

Defense: I think that the defense had some definite confidence issues. They played well in the 2nd/3rd quarters before things seemed to fall off the wheels. I definitely think that the refs didnt cut them any favors and Jimmy being out hurt them more than it initially appeared. Though I think those two factors definitely hurt the defense more than anything, I do feel like they could have taken over this game if they could have kept playing smart and disciplined towards the end of the game.

This is a game the Ravens definitely should have won, but unfortunately drops and bad reffing kept the Steelers in this game. And the Ravens didn't step up when they needed to most. 

The Steelers are not a very good team and I definitely don't think they deserve to be in the playoffs. But unfortunately it happened. 

I can simplify that long post: Ravens suck

[nextgen_RavensFan]

Good -  Was a great Christmas.. The running game did well again. 

Bad -  Breshad taking very hard hits across the middle, BUT came right back and made a very nice play.

Ugly - Most folks would say the defense looked awful but i see it as the defense kept the Steelers quiet for 3 quarters of the game but the last 2 drives they went back to playing off and giving the offense too much room. Not sure if that was a Pees call or what but it was a great game in my eyes and did not disappoint. A very tight game and hard fought on both sides.

So, no paly-offs this year. it cannot happen every year right. Was a fun season none the less.

 

[Ravensfan23]

I know many people are ticked off right now, and to a certain extant I am too. But i'm gonna put a different twist on this outcome. Not only losing to the Steelers but the way they lost to the Steelers might just be a blessing in disguise. This loss should have highlighted a lot of shortcomings the Ravens have. 

So let's look at those shortcomings. 

1. You must upgrade the interior of this oline. The offense had success in-spite of Zuttah and Ducasse. You must improve this asap. 

2. Pass rush. This team needs someone who can provide some pressure with the game on the line. I'm not saying they need a Von Millr to take over the game, but you need someone who can show up. The FO has tried to improve in this area. So i don't know if it's just player development or adding new players, but the pass rush must improve. 

3. Finding guys who can make plays on the offensive side of the ball. The difference in this game was the Steelers offensive players made the plays they needed to make, but the Ravens didn't. Both Pitta and Waller didn't covert on potential TD opportunities. That's a total of 11 points left on the field because of the bad snap FG attempt. That means the Ravens should have had at least 38 points on the board. That doesn't even factor in coming away with 0 points despite getting the ball twice at the 40 yardline with only 25 yards needed to get into Tucker's range. 

4. Dean Pees. I'm a big fan of Dean's but the bend but don't break defense at the end of games has costed this team far too much. Again i'm a fan of his, so if he stays i wouldn't be too upset but something has to change with this defense in terms of closing out games in the 4th quarter. So hopefully this game highlights that. 

5. This teams habit of shrinking in big games. You have a 10 point lead going into the 4th quarter and the pressure should have been on the Steelers instead it was squarely on the Ravens team and they folded(at least defensively). Imo and call me a homer. but the Ravens were clearly the better team among the Cowboys, Patriots and Steelers, yet this team shrunk in those big games. Is that a Harbs problem because this team isn't prepared or is that just a player issue because the players don't have that star power to make plays when they matter. 

Imo if the Ravens don't have any of these issues as a team right now they are easily a #1 or #2 seed. 

[playlikeawhat]

More good:  Credit to the o-line beyond the first quarter.  Solid finish.  Far from great but could've been worse.

[ravensdfan]

6 minutes ago, Steve0x said:

If Pees isn't fired i want every Ravens fan don't renew their season tickets. Get smart like those old Baltimore Colts fans were when Irsay bought them in 1972

You mean what began his campaign to move the Colts from Baltimore? Yeah that's smart.

7 minutes ago, HoldingCall said:

If not for the 2 interceptions by the D, the game wouldn't have been close. The D is not fully to blame, the team played a determined opponent tonight.

I don't care how you get there - carrying a 10 pt lead into the 4th you should win the game. Not to mention, the D also gave up that easy drive in the 1st to give the Steelers 7 pts. Not to mention, the offense also gave them yet another lead after they squandered the 10 pt lead - and they couldn't even hold the Steelers to a FG for OT. Not to mention, this isn't new. This is what our defense does in the 4th.

5 minutes ago, Virginia 55 said:

Defense put us in position to win the game.  Two picks inside the 30, if the offense scores tds there game over.  But sure, give it to Flacco. The legit worst offense i have seen in a ravens uniform. Where is Trent Dilfer, Jermaine lewis, Jamal or ray Rice and the 2000 Ravens D when you need them.  

lmbo Are you serious here? Trent Dilfer?

[FlocksGottaFeed]

The Ugly: Those earlier losses that we should have won (at the very least) two or three of them.

The Bad: We just got beat. There's really no one or unit that cost us this one. We just got beaten on Christmas Day by a great play.

The Good: It was one of the "Great Games of the Season and Our Rivalry" - nobody can argue that.

The Reason for the Season: We've come back from one of the worst seasons ever, but we still have a little more of a way to go to get back to that top 8 team that wins Super Bowls. That said, I believe we're on an upward trajectory and shouldn't ever look back. That's the only Christmas Gift that I wanted to see (upward trajectory) when the 2016 schedule was announced.

Still Ravens for Life. 

[sflegend89]

Josh McDaniels, Wade Phillips, Matt Patricia, Kyle Shannahan. 

 

This team needs a football coach who brings something to the table. I think Harbs has been decent but at the end of the day he's a special teams coach with some charisma and motivational quotes.

[hen826957]

2 minutes ago, jboy19 said:

Offense: I was pretty happy with Flacco's play. RBs were streaky but had a pretty good showing. Receivers had drops at the worst possible times- Pitta, Aiken, Waller, Perriman. Line had some struggles, but nothing too significant that I saw. I think that the number of coverage sacks was unacceptable and that theres a legitimate problem with Marty being outsmarted by even average DCs. The fact that we saw every receiver covered downfield multiple times during this game is extremely concerning to me. The offense did what they needed to on that last drive though, so I can't fault them too much. But I will say their inability to finish in the first half was fatal. 

Defense: I think that the defense had some definite confidence issues. They played well in the 2nd/3rd quarters before things seemed to fall off the wheels. I definitely think that the refs didnt cut them any favors and Jimmy being out hurt them more than it initially appeared. Though I think those two factors definitely hurt the defense more than anything, I do feel like they could have taken over this game if they could have kept playing smart and disciplined towards the end of the game.

This is a game the Ravens definitely should have won, but unfortunately drops and bad reffing kept the Steelers in this game. And the Ravens didn't step up when they needed to most. 

The Steelers are not a very good team and I definitely don't think they deserve to be in the playoffs. But unfortunately it happened. 

The Dolphins shouldn't definitely be in the playoffs but the Steelers yeah l think they do. 

[robbie29]

1 minute ago, Gruntled Ravens Fan said:

Its not just the loss. It includes losses to the Redskins, Giants, and Jets. We were clearly the better team in those games, but bad decisions lost them and now we are in this situation.

We weren't the better team. Stop it. We sucked then just like we sucked tonight. 

[Cville-Raven]

3 minutes ago, Gruntled Ravens Fan said:

Its not just the loss. It includes losses to the Redskins, Giants, and Jets. We were clearly the better team in those games, but bad decisions lost them and now we are in this situation.

Poor plays lost us those game just as much as coaching hell if not more. In that redskins game mosely fumbles the ball out of bounds for a touchback. We keep the ball there we probably win that game. In the Giants game Weddle took out Tavon on the Beckham TD. That falls on the players not the coaches. 

Edited December 26, 2016 by Cville-Raven

[jazz1988]

Just now, rmw10 said:

There's absolutely no way this should even be in consideration.

I disagree. Unlesss John Harbaugh is fired I don't think hiring another offensive coordinator  to bring in yet another offensive system for Joe Flacco to learn is a great idea. Just like with Gary Kubiak I think Marty M needs his guys on the coaching staff rather that's Pat Shurmur(if let go by The Vikings) or James Urban.. I didn't see any issue with Marty M playing calling tonight  and Joe Flacco in general play quite well .

[Steve0x]

2 minutes ago, robbie29 said:

We weren't the better team. Stop it. We sucked then just like we sucked tonight. 

Everybody screws up in their jobs right? But when you screw up at work the the boss wants to see you in his office.. THATS REALITY

 

 

 

 

Edited December 26, 2016 by Steve0x

[BmoreRavens732]

I blame pees for this loss. I understand players have to execute, but when you consistently play a soft zone prevent defense that literally has never worked for us since he's been here, then you have to look at the scheme. My biggest gripe is the final drive, the defense is playing soft giving everything up underneath as usual not even trying to keep them out of field goal range, then the steelers are right outside the 10 yard line I believe, I think its 3rd and 4, could have been 3rd and 6, either way, our number 1 goal here is to stop a touchdown and force a field goal. Well here it is 3rd down and pees decides to have his middle linebackers drop into the end zone playing prevent and had absolutely NOBODY playing the sticks in the middle of the field! The steelers tight end was WIDE OPEN uncontested with nobody with in yards!!! All because of dean pees soft butt prevent that once again absolutely NEVER WORKS!!!! AT ALL!!!! PEES NEEDS TO GO!!!

[Cville-Raven]

2 minutes ago, Steve0x said:

Flacco to Jets for Jets 1st round pick ..Jets get Ravens 2017 2nd and 3rd round pick and 2018 1st round pick

In what fantasy world do you think that happens. That's even too far for a Tolkien novel. 

[Gruntled Ravens Fan]

1 minute ago, robbie29 said:

We weren't the better team. Stop it. We sucked then just like we sucked tonight. 

I think holding the Redskins to 9 points total on offense is pretty good. We had 10 point leads on both Jets and Giants, before chocking. I think we are a good team that makes dumb mistakes which kills us

[rmw10]

Just now, jazz1988 said:

I disagree. Unlesss John Harbaugh is fired I don't think hiring another offensive coordinator  to bring in yet another offensive system for Joe Flacco to learn is a great idea. Just like with Gary Kubiak I think Marty M needs his guys on the coaching staff rather that's Pat Shurmur(if let go by The Vikings) or James Urban.. I didn't see any issue with Marty M playing calling tonight  and Joe Flacco in general play quite well .

Marty and Trestman were basically the same person. This team needs to move forward, not stay stagnant. Marty has done absolutely nothing for me to believe he should even be in consideration to stick around. 

[hen826957]

Just now, sflegend89 said:

Josh McDaniels, Wade Phillips, Matt Patricia, Kyle Shannahan. 

 

This team needs a football coach who brings something to the table. I think Harbs has been decent but at the end of the day he's a special teams coach with some charisma and motivational quotes.

I like John too but if they go that route l will pick either Kyle Shannahan or Wade Philips. Both are great choices and hire Norv Turner as offensive coordinator. 

[ravens rule]

I think Harbaugh is safe, but we might cut some veterans. 

[BNat]

Getting rid of Flacco is the most asinine comment I've seen on here.

[BmoreBird22]

24 minutes ago, arnie_uk said:

Almost certain it was powers 

Powers. Yes, 26, not 36

[hen826957]

1 minute ago, ravens rule said:

I think Harbaugh is safe, but we might cut some veterans. 

He might be. We'll see. 😊