Week 16: The Good, the Bad and Ugly Comment/Vent/Rant Steeler version

[arnie_uk]

6 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Wright has always done very well on the boundary, but not across the middle.

On the final touchdown, he correctly passed off Brown and Young couldn't make a play.

Almost certain it was powers 

[Virginia 55]

4 minutes ago, Gruntled Ravens Fan said:

I understand the logic behind firing Harbs, but who would we replace him with?

Its not like he does much.  He can be replaced by another special teams coach. 

[OUravensfan]

1 minute ago, codizzle said:

Joe was pressured on 18 of 47 dropbacks 

 

hmmm

 

1 minute ago, Ravenseconbeast said:

Harbaugh is one of the best HC out there.  Keep him here.  He is not the issue.

Harbaugh def has to say, it's an easy barometer for who is rational and who isn't on here.

Peas is a different story however, that one will be interesting, Same tried debate of execution vs methodology, but that last drive was WAY too easy and only the last play could really be blamed on execution, but also, literally 0 edge rush. Idk.

I hate that the unanimous opinion is Joe sucks and Ben is god, the worst throws I saw today were from Ben, he was lucky Joe's WRs let him down.

Btw, let's not forget Zutah's awful hold, I'm good with him as depth but not a starter.

[busterblue52]

Just now, HazDaGeneral said:

Lol no the real reason is that the steelers have playmakers and we dont

Isn't that exactly what he's saying?

[Gruntled Ravens Fan]

Just now, cnyravens said:

Anybody!

This team can't close the deal in the 4th. Quarter.

What about Jeff Fisher? Now before you throw this comment away, here me out. His teams always have a solid running game and defense. The only thing he never had was a good quarterback. We have all three of those things. But hey, its just an idea.

[Virginia 55]

12 minutes ago, playlikeawhat said:

The Good: Joe put the team in position to win as usual.  Receivers (not named Aiken) stepped up in later drives.  Credit to the group.

The Bad: The secondary's regression. They started to make strides the last few games. Hope this motivates whoever stays to play better next year.

The Ugly:  "Justin" Juszczyk

What????

[jazz1988]

Just now, Virginia 55 said:

Its not like he does much.  He can be replaced by another special teams coach. 

 It's not that simple at all smh

[The Raven]

7 minutes ago, LosT_in_TranSlatioN said:

Although I don't support it, it wouldn't surprise me at this point tbh. Question is who would replace him 

We asked the same thing when Billick was fired, and I think every team asks the question.

Ideally, we come away with an offense minded coach (I'd hope for a BB or Payton disciple) who actually implements his own system and teaches Joe how to be a damn QB. Ideally, someone who can run an offense/

6 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

I hate to say it, but I think I might be in agreement.  Same issues year after year.  I'm not sold on the move if it does happen, but I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised if we see aa shakeup.

Ya know, it really is the same issues year after year.

6 minutes ago, Ravenseconbeast said:

Harbaugh is one of the best HC out there.  Keep him here.  He is not the issue.

But you'd cut Joe, which would result in a massive cap penalty that would severely handicap the roster? Nice! Keep on keeping on with those sharp critical thinking skills.

Edited December 26, 2016 by The Raven

[Bryden88]

You don't score multiple touchdowns, and no interceptions (I don't count that last one,) with a chance to win the game at the end and not have it going. Our offense was bad this year, but it got its act together tonight. Our D is fully to blame IMO.

And it's Christmas, let's not be insulting towards each other, k?

[Virginia 55]

18 minutes ago, rmw10 said:

Props to Joe on a great game today though.  He and Dixon carried the offense today.  It's a shame they couldn't convert those FGs into TDs a couple more times.  We definitely need to learn how to finish.

Joe didn't have a great game.  It was decent, far from great. 

[rossihunter2]

You guys talking about harbs being a problem are not thinking clearly yet - this is a team that is so close to winning the division for the first time since 2012 after a losing season - we have at the minimum increased our win total by 3 with one draft

i can understand wanting scheme changes / coordinator changes but harbs is obviously a leader of men and the players like him + if you get rid of him, who do you replace him with? I don't see any available coach around the league I'd want at the moment.

were frustrated as a fan base but objectively most teams would kill to have harbs as their coach - you just don't fire a coach who is obviously in the top 5 in the league

after the offensives late season improvements and the defenses great improvements off last year I feel like the coaching staffs should just be locked in and left to work - one more good draft with a corner, an edge rusher and a lineman somewhere in it and suddenly we'd be golden

[808Blackbirds]

10 minutes ago, Moderator 3 said:

I'm so conflicted.  I seriously think the Steelers have more talent than we do BUT we always play them so close.  Is it possible that Tomlin is not that good.  I think they should have beaten us much worse.

Steelers have better coaches and they can adapt to situations . Dean sticks to his gameplan till its to late and marty is idk .. Offense played well enough to win today.

Edited December 26, 2016 by 808Blackbirds

[Cville-Raven]

2 minutes ago, Virginia 55 said:

Its not like he does much.  He can be replaced by another special teams coach. 

lol Wow

[ravensdfan]

1 minute ago, Virginia 55 said:

What????

Didn't the offense score a go ahead TD with only a little over a minute left in the game? I think that puts you in a position to win. Not to mention the initial 10 pt lead the defense had to begin the 4th quarter that they squandered.

[Ravensdoordie]

7 minutes ago, Gruntled Ravens Fan said:

I understand the logic behind firing Harbs, but who would we replace him with?

.... Start perhaps with any High School Coach... They would be way better then him.

[sflegend89]

Let's just take a minute to appreciate Perriman making it through the season. He's flashed potential, I think he could have a break out year now that he has some experience and confidence.

On the bright side losing like that will light a fire under this team. We have good young players and this loss will be on their minds all offseason. I think guys like Judon, Perriman, Young, Stanley, Waller, Alex Lewis will take a big step forward next year.

[Virginia 55]

1 minute ago, Steve0x said:

Fire Dean Pees and John Haubaugh!!!  I want Mlke Shanahan next Ravens head coach!

Should have been the head coach here when he came available. This move  would help Flacco most of all. 

[Tank 92]

1 minute ago, Virginia 55 said:

What????

He said Joe put the team in position to win, which he did. 

[cnyravens]

Just now, HazDaGeneral said:

Exactly......the coaching staff was carried in my opinion by those guys like ray lewis and ed reed since they been gone of the team this team has been butt city 

Pittsburgh is flat out NOT that good but as much as I hate to say it.. Big Ben is amazing.

And they have a head coach who is a real leader.

Harbaugh is an overrated stiff.

This was a total team choke job no doubt about it.

Give up 10 points in 3 quarters and 21 in the 4th?????

absolutely no killer instinct whatsoever.

Actually... Part of me is relieved I don't have to watch this garbage any more.

[rmw10]

Just now, The Raven said:

Ya know, it really is the same issues year after year.

That's why I wouldn't be surprised.  I think you can give last year a pass because of all of the major injuries.  The fact that the issues that were plaguing us 4 years ago are still plaguing us today though makes it possible in my mind.

[3-4ravdef509]

16 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Dean Pees did a little bit of everything on that final drive. He played zone, press, off, blitzed, bluffed who he was bringing, brought four, and anything you can think of. The defense just got flat out beat. 

Todd Haley just saw a weak link in Wright and went for it. The Ravens pass rush heavy packages (Suggs, Jernigan, Doom, Judon) couldn't get it done.

Offensively, no excuse to get into Steelers territory five times in the first half and get no points. No excuse to start on the forty twice and in the red zone twice and net 10 points. The defense gifted 10 points to the offense, but for the most part, the offense was largely ineffective. They could move the ball, but not finish.

This was a team loss. No unit lost the game. It was both sides of the ball and special teams with that blocked FG.

Couple of dropped passes and missed blocks kept the offense from scoring at least 11 more points. 

[OUravensfan]

2 minutes ago, Gruntled Ravens Fan said:

What about Jeff Fisher? Now before you throw this comment away, here me out. His teams always have a solid running game and defense. The only thing he never had was a good quarterback. We have all three of those things. But hey, its just an idea.

Jeff Fisher over Harbaugh.

Yea why not, let's get the guy whose never won anything and thinks it's 1957, at least we can get good draft picks every year.

I'm not trying to be rude, you did say hear me out and I do agree QB development wasn't his strong suite, but nah, especially his hatred for the Ravens too.

[pep_meister]

26 minutes ago, garfield207 said:

Steelers didn't win this, Ravens lost it.  Muffed field goal, and Waller drop cost them 7 points.

In wallers defense he didn't drop it. the defender had his hand under the ball and pushed it out..... zero sacks and the defense allowing 21 points in 3 possessions lost the game.

[Steve0x]

The Fact is Dean Pees is a bad defensive coach

[Tank 92]

21 points in one freaking quarter.  Ugh.

[ratedr]

Harbs annoys the hell outta me but there's nobody available who is an upgrade. But if he does not finally get rid of Pees I'll be the first to call for his head.

[ravensdfan]

1 minute ago, 3-4ravdef509 said:

Couple of dropped passes and missed blocks kept the offense from scoring at least 11 more points. 

And a couple penalties that negated gains.

[allblackraven]

6 minutes ago, Steve0x said:

Yeah!! Thats why Flacco should be traded to the Jets!

Go to wherever you crawled out from. And don't come back.

Edited December 26, 2016 by Grapple Raven
Just ignore instead of insulting.

[redrum52]

Season over and this team got what they deserved.  Too many lapses and bone headed mistakes.  Poor coaching at crucial times.  This team for years has seemed to lack focus throughout.

[Cville-Raven]

3 minutes ago, Steve0x said:

Fire Dean Pees and John Haubaugh!!!  I want Mlke Shanahan next Ravens head coach!

lol this thread certainly is delivering