Week 16: The Good, the Bad and Ugly Comment/Vent/Rant Steeler version

[OUravensfan]

2 minutes ago, Ravenseconbeast said:

Cj mosley and Orr handed Joe to steelers territory.  Without it, Joe had 1 good drive.  1 TD out of all that opportunity and instead dud joe got Tucker scoring majority of the points.

Vs. Eagles last week.  Our defense literally hand-plated Joe 2 TD right on eagle's endzone.  Without it, Joe did didly squat last week.   

Alright I'm out guys, some people are just too stubborn I guess 

[PoeDinkum]

Just now, BmoreBird22 said:

Dean Pees did a little bit of everything on that final drive. He played zone, press, off, blitzed, bluffed who he was bringing, brought four, and anything you can think of. The defense just got flat out beat. 

Todd Haley just saw a weak link in Wright and went for it. The Ravens pass rush heavy packages (Suggs, Jernigan, Doom, Judon) couldn't get it done.

Offensively, no excuse to get into Steelers territory five times in the first half and get no points. No excuse to start on the forty twice and in the red zone twice and net 10 points. The defense gifted 10 points to the offense, but for the most part, the offense was largely ineffective. They could move the ball, but not finish.

This was a team loss. No unit lost the game. It was both sides of the ball and special teams with that blocked FG.

Great post. Seriously made a case for what cost us the game on both sides of the ball.

[rmw10]

1 minute ago, codizzle said:

Please find a pass rusher 

This is a big factor that not enough people are mentioning.  Pass rush didn't get there at all today.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Just now, OUravensfan said:

Alright I'm out guys, some people are just too stubborn I guess 

Just don't respond to him. We all know what he is

[ravensdfan]

2 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Dean Pees did a little bit of everything on that final drive. He played zone, press, off, blitzed, bluffed who he was bringing, brought four, and anything you can think of. The defense just got flat out beat. 

Todd Haley just saw a weak link in Wright and went for it. The Ravens pass rush heavy packages (Suggs, Jernigan, Doom, Judon) couldn't get it done.

Offensively, no excuse to get into Steelers territory five times in the first half and get no points. No excuse to start on the forty twice and in the red zone twice and net 10 points. The defense gifted 10 points to the offense, but for the most part, the offense was largely ineffective. They could move the ball, but not finish.

This was a team loss. No unit lost the game. It was both sides of the ball and special teams with that blocked FG.

But yet you make excuses for the defense giving up 3 TD drives of 75, 90 and 80 I believe. Funny. But if we're counting things from the 1st half the defense also had that pathetic excuse of a TD drive they gave up.

Edited December 26, 2016 by ravensdfan

[Militant X 1]

This thread and the responses in it are just.....

[playlikeawhat]

The Good: Joe put the team in position to win as usual.  Receivers (not named Aiken) stepped up in later drives.  Credit to the group.

The Bad: The secondary's regression. They started to make strides the last few games. Hope this motivates whoever stays to play better next year.

The Ugly:  "Justin" Juszczyk

[Ravenseconbeast]

2 minutes ago, OUravensfan said:

Alright I'm out guys, some people are just too stubborn I guess 

Yea stubborn about not worshipping your mighty Joe Flacco.  

Sorry i ticked off this Flacco worship forum.  

We left off at least 10 points off the board kicking FGs that shouldve been more points.   Anyone past 2 week saw what happened w/o Jimmy.  Our defense were not going to be stout w/o him.  It showed.   It was upto our offense to win it.  Did not happen.

 

Edited December 26, 2016 by Ravenseconbeast

[808Blackbirds]

Just now, allblackraven said:

Noah Spence is 100 times the player though.

How do you know that for sure?  John Harbaugh doesn't like giving chances to rookies and waste them on special teams.

[sflegend89]

We need a pass rusher so bad. Suggs/Doom ain't getting it done consistently against the good Tackles at this stage in their careers.

We desperately need someone who can win 1 on 1 off the edge. Rushing 4 is so pointless against any decent OL.

Edited December 26, 2016 by sflegend89

[Moderator 3]

1 minute ago, OUravensfan said:

Alright I'm out guys, some people are just too stubborn I guess 

I'm not sure stubborn is the right term.

[OUravensfan]

3 minutes ago, arnie_uk said:

Err I think you mean Ben did. They were two awful throws that if Joe made your be calling for him to be cut. You'd never even acknowledge there is another team making plays.

 

2 minutes ago, RaineV1 said:

Two good drives actually against the Steelers that went for touchdowns without the counting the turnovers. Also that doesn't take into account Pitta and Waller dropping touchdown passes.

 

2 minutes ago, arnie_uk said:

Have no idea how weddle didn't smash brown back words there. 

 

2 minutes ago, ratedr said:

It goes without saying that Marty will be gone. WHEN will we finally let go of Pees? WHEN? We've been seeing this for years, but Pees is always given an excuse. Fire him and go after Gus Bradley. Please!

All of this, I've watched too many game winning drives on a Dean Peas defense, can't do it anymore.

[EnoughisEnough]

Time for some major changes on both sides of the ball.   No pressure on Roethlisberger when it mattered.  What happened to the defense in fourth quarter?

[Florida Ravens Fan]

It's sad when you have a ten point lead and you feel like your still losing I knew that wasn't enough. This loss is definetely on the D. We can't keep leads anymore. That is a bend and break D.

[3-4ravdef509]

4 minutes ago, Ravenseconbeast said:

Cj mosley and Orr handed Joe to steelers territory.  Without it, Joe had 1 good drive.  1 TD out of all that opportunity and instead dud joe got Tucker scoring majority of the points.

Vs. Eagles last week.  Our defense literally hand-plated Joe 2 TD right on eagle's endzone.  Without it, Joe did didly squat last week.   

 

Are we just ignoring the dropped passes and touchdowns??

Joe isn't the problem. 

[allblackraven]

1 minute ago, Militant X 1 said:

This thread and the responses in it are just.....

And it will be until there's change on how we draft and play defense.

[ravensdfan]

1 minute ago, Ravenseconbeast said:

Yea stubborn about not worshipping your mighty Joe Flacco.  

Sorry i ticked off this Flacco worship forum.  

We left off at least 10 points off the board kicking FGs that shouldve been more points.

 

But Flacco did his job - our receivers didn't. Or else 6 of those points become 14.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Just now, 3-4ravdef509 said:

 

Are we just ignoring the dropped passes and touchdowns??

Joe isn't the problem. 

He'll probably pin those on Joe too

[RavensRegime]

2 minutes ago, codizzle said:

2008 easily beats this 

The reason this stings much more is because i wanted to see SSS, Suggs, and Wallace beat them for probably the last time. I dont wanna see them go out like this...

[HazDaGeneral]

4 minutes ago, BmoreBird22 said:

Dean Pees did a little bit of everything on that final drive. He played zone, press, off, blitzed, bluffed who he was bringing, brought four, and anything you can think of. The defense just got flat out beat. 

Todd Haley just saw a weak link in Wright and went for it. The Ravens pass rush heavy packages (Suggs, Jernigan, Doom, Judon) couldn't get it done.

Offensively, no excuse to get into Steelers territory five times in the first half and get no points. No excuse to start on the forty twice and in the red zone twice and net 10 points. The defense gifted 10 points to the offense, but for the most part, the offense was largely ineffective. They could move the ball, but not finish.

This was a team loss. No unit lost the game. It was both sides of the ball and special teams with that blocked FG.

 

thats why i still dont understand why he got that contract.....and to be honest that scheme was trash.....i would rather get beat with you running by me than giving you slants and corner routes the whole game

[codizzle]

2 minutes ago, OUravensfan said:

 

 

 

All of this, I've watched too many game winning drives on a Dean Peas defense, can't do it anymore.

Yea getting pretty old year in and year out 

[Cville-Raven]

Us losing could be a blessing. This game made it very evident we need more talent at the edge and corner back positions. Getting a top 20 pick will benefit us in the long run. Just asking way too much of Suggs at this point in his career. Peas needs to take the fall for the late season collapse of the defense.

[BmoreBird22]

3 minutes ago, ravensdfan said:

But yet you make excuses for the defense giving up 3 TD drives of 75, 90 and 80 I believe. Funny. But if we're counting things from the 1st half the defense also had that pathetic excuse of a TD drive they gave up.

"The defense just flat out got beat."

Yep, I'm making excuses for them.

[Raving_Heathen]

7 minutes ago, ratedr said:

Clowns are gonna blame the offense for this somehow. The defense is overrated trash. Stop using the Jimmy excuse, he's not the only player on defense. They cannot make a clutch stop to save their lives and haven't since the Super Bowl. If Pees stays another season Harbs needs to go too.

The WRs and TEs are not playmakers, period.

Flacco and the RBs played well, as did the line.

Extremely overrated. Every good offense they've faced this year, they've ultimately rolled over (sometimes on consecutive drives like tonight) when it counted. Steelers scored 3 TDs in the 4th quarter! I don't care if you're the Browns. That's unacceptable. Just dumb luck or probability was on our side to keep them out of the endzone at least once in the 4th, but nope.

[Edug27]

11 minutes ago, RavensRegime said:

Time to clean house...

Wallace

SSS (retire)

Wright

Webb

Suggs (retire or cut)

Doom

... all need to be gone. Time to rebuild the WR, secondary and pass rushing group. You have pieces to start building the o-line. I love the LB'er tandem in Orr and Mosley. You need a ball hawker beside Weddle. Completely rebuild the wideout group. Wallace provides little if he's not catching deep balls. We need sure handed chain movers. Dixon needs to be the feature back. Enough of this 2 back rotation. You can't count on Jimmy to play a full season or suit up for big games, so corners are a huge need. 

 

[sflegend89]

3 minutes ago, Florida Ravens Fan said:

It's sad when you have a ten point lead and you feel like your still losing I knew that wasn't enough. This loss is definetely on the D. We can't keep leads anymore. That is a bend and break D.

Had the same feeling. The Pats/Steelers have a 10 point lead and it's basically over. We have a 10 point lead and it's only a matter of time before we choke it away.

Edited December 26, 2016 by sflegend89

[cnyravens]

1 minute ago, ravensdfan said:

But yet you make excuses for the defense giving up 3 TD drives of 75, 90 and 80 I believe. Funny.

They flat out lost to a better team!

Should have lost last week to the Eagles!

Sorry but Suggs is toast as is Dummerville.

And please stop with Jimmy Smith out being an excuse.

This team is a shell of what classic Raven teams used to exemplify.

Ray Lewis must be sick to his stomach.

Harbaugh and the coaching staff needs to go.

Play NOT to lose and you lose every time!

[ravensdfan]

Sooooo do we have a draft thread? And I hope they don't hold off the State of the Ravens forever and a day this year.

[ravefan52]

It's super annoying losing like this, especially to the Steelers. But on the bright side we weren't going to win it all and now we have a better pick. We have a lot of young talent. If we can add another good OL, WR, CB and OLB then it's a really talented team, but if Marty or Pees is still there they'll screw it up

Edited December 26, 2016 by ravefan52

[robbie29]

I hate this team. Unless we draft the reincarnation of Ray Lewis, we're destined for mediocrity.