Week 16: The Good, the Bad and Ugly Comment/Vent/Rant Steeler version

[PuRock]

1 minute ago, jboy19 said:

Yeah poor Broncos don't even realize that even if they win tonight, the Patriots are gonna take safeties every drive next week to ensure the Dolphins get in over them haha.

If the Bills beat the Dolphins and Oakland lost this weekend, I envisioned the Pats losing to ensure the Ravens were kept out of the wildcard spot.  They'd rather face the inexperienced Dolphins and a backup QB than an experienced Ravens team on the road to the SB.

[Militant X 1]

2 hours ago, RayRayRaven said:

missing the playoffs three of four years I am very very sad.  I feel a trend has been established. I'm sad my former heros are gone and have not been replaced. worse yet released too soon for replacements who couldn't replace. this is very saddening. I do not see my sadness being lifted by the current regime. the only thing that can bring happiness back to Baltimore is winning and to do that there must be change.  bring the billick back to the future. he built this team!

Friends of mine who are fans of other NFL teams kept saying to me; "Now that Ray Lewis and Ed Reed are gone; Flacco will never lead the Ravens to another Super Bowl and ya'll probably won't make the playoffs for years to come!"  By no means am I laying this loss tonight in Flacco's lap because he did what he could.  He played pretty well and had no INT's.  He even marched us down the field and got us the go ahead touchdown by Juice for the potential win.  However, the offense still couldn't score TD's in a few red zone trips, receivers dropping key passes, special teams bobbling a FG attempt snap for the first time and then the defense once again folded like a cheap suit in the 4th quarter.  Suggs/Doom had NO PASS RUSH whatsoever.  Big Ben remained upright and was able to scramble out a few times.  This team is shot!  There needs to be a major overhaul of some kind to take place from the coaches, the offense and the defense in order to right the ship.  Cause the reality is that it is sinking fast in this post Lewis/Reed era.

[OUravensfan]

17 minutes ago, Militant X 1 said:

Friends of mine who are fans of other NFL teams kept saying to me; "Now that Ray Lewis and Ed Reed are gone; Flacco will never lead the Ravens to another Super Bowl and ya'll probably won't make the playoffs for years to come!"  By no means am I laying this loss tonight in Flacco's lap because he did what he could.  He played pretty well and had no INT's.  He even marched us down the field and got us the go ahead touchdown by Juice for the potential win.  However, the offense still couldn't score TD's in a few red zone trips, receivers dropping key passes, special teams bobbling a FG attempt snap for the first time and then the defense once again folded like a cheap suit in the 4th quarter.  Suggs/Doom had NO PASS RUSH whatsoever.  Big Ben remained upright and was able to scramble out a few times.  This team is shot!  There needs to be a major overhaul of some kind to take place from the coaches, the offense and the defense in order to right the ship.  Cause the reality is that it is sinking fast in this post Lewis/Reed era.

Literally every part of this, including the jabs friends give since we're both out of state fans at the present moment. Bengal fans can't say anything this year and I still want the sweep.

[FGSB]

Where is the "Fire Dean Pees" thread?

 

Same bullcrap he pulls every season. 

 

"Whats that? The defense is playing well? CANT LET THAT CONTINUE QUICK GIVE EVERYONE A 15 YARD CUSHION"

 

Its disgusting, he needs to go.

[Tank 92]

4 minutes ago, FGSB said:

Where is the "Fire Dean Pees" thread?

 

Same bullcrap he pulls every season. 

 

"Whats that? The defense is playing well? CANT LET THAT CONTINUE QUICK GIVE EVERYONE A 15 YARD CUSHION"

 

Its disgusting, he needs to go.

I thought he was out this game.  Did he play?

[cnyravens]

6 minutes ago, FGSB said:

Where is the "Fire Dean Pees" thread?

 

Same bullcrap he pulls every season. 

 

"Whats that? The defense is playing well? CANT LET THAT CONTINUE QUICK GIVE EVERYONE A 15 YARD CUSHION"

 

Its disgusting, he needs to go.

Yeah but our Overall Defensive Rating is near the top of the League!

Fact is in crunch time Pees is a loser!!!

[PuRock]

1 minute ago, cnyravens said:

Yeah but our Overall Defensive Rating is near the top of the League!

Fact is in crunch time Pees is a loser!!!

Agreed.  The proof is in the pudding.  The defense has always struggled maintaining two score leads late in games under Dean.  With or without the players to execute.  Play-calling tends to go conservative and fail.  His defense proved it can be great, but fails under the stress test everytime.  

[Ravens4Real]

45 minutes ago, PuRock said:

Well some good news is that the Steelers are probably going to have to invest a lot of money in their RB after the season.  He's going to finish the season strong going into unrestricted FA.  And he wants to be paid.  

That will be the easiest franchise tag in the history of the league.

[PuRock]

4 minutes ago, Ravens4Real said:

That will be the easiest franchise tag in the history of the league.

Agreed.  But I doubt Bell will be happy about it.  With all of his injury concerns and money hungry rap songs, he could put up a fight under the tag.  

[Edgar]

This game comes down to a pass rush severely lacking. Any semblance of reliable pressure and this game isn't close.

I really don't understand why Albert McClellan is our starting outside backer. I'm sure he works hard and is an effort guy but there is no getting around how average he is. This guy seriously worked his way into the starting lineup this year? Unacceptable.

I like both backs. A nice one two tandem. I love Stanley. No pressure lost us this game...bears repeating.....pass rush was atrocious and Weddle blitz is telegraphed.

Mosley played well overall. Steelers defense was almost as horrible as ours.

Bad snap cost us. 

Joe was great. Best Raven on the field....better than Roethlisberger today..really great.  He has to play this way all the time. He's shown what he CAN do and this is what is to be expected going forward....no more sleepwalking through a half routinely. He needs focus every game...because they're all playoff games.

He was off more than he was on this year and he has to fix that going forward.

Any Dungy was atrocious.

Edited December 26, 2016 by Edgar

[Ravens4Real]

5 minutes ago, PuRock said:

Agreed.  But I doubt Bell will be happy about it.  With all of his injury concerns and money hungry rap songs, he could put up a fight under the tag.  

That is true. Add in his drug problems/suspensions. I highly doubt you see the Steelers offer him anything more than a couple years with some heavy stipulations built into the contract. 

[jboy19]

1 minute ago, Ravens4Real said:

That is true. Add in his drug problems/suspensions. I highly doubt you see the Steelers offer him anything more than a couple years with some heavy stipulations built into the contract. 

He gets a 10 game suspension next season (probably) under either the PEDs or Substance Abuse policy sinces he has already served a 4 game suspension under each. 

[OUravensfan]

14 minutes ago, Edgar said:

This game comes down to a pass rush severely lacking. Any semblance of reliable pressure and this game isn't close.

I really don't understand why Albert McClellan is our starting outside backer. I'm sure he works hard and is an effort guy but there is no getting around how average he is. This guy seriously worked his way into the starting lineup this year? Unacceptable.

I like both backs. A nice one two tandem. I love Stanley. No pressure lost us this game...bears repeating.....pass rush was atrocious and Weddle blitz is telegraphed.

Mosley played well overall. Steelers defense was almost as horrible as ours.

Bad snap cost us. 

Joe was great. Best Raven on the field....better than Roethlisberger today..really great.  He has to play this way all the time. He's shown what he CAN do and this is what is to be expected going forward....no more sleepwalking through a half routinely. He needs focus every game...because they're all playoff games.

He was off more than he was on this year and he has to fix that going forward.

Any Dungy was atrocious.

Another reason Passer Rating is a joke, Ben had a 103 today, I thought he looked terrible, we let him off the hook.

[Edgar]

1 minute ago, OUravensfan said:

Another reason Passer Rating is a joke, Ben had a 103 today, I thought he looked terrible, we let him off the hook.

He's a great QB. He clearly isn't playing his best ball this year.

 

[drillem]

How did the defense fold like a cheap suit in the 4th quarter after such a decent 3 quarters?  Something smells to high heaven.

[PuRock]

15 minutes ago, Ravens4Real said:

That is true. Add in his drug problems/suspensions. I highly doubt you see the Steelers offer him anything more than a couple years with some heavy stipulations built into the contract. 

It could get sticky.  Bell wants to be paid and when he plays is well worth the money.  But the Steelers need to hedge their bets with the injuries and suspensions.  The tag is the only likely solution and I could see Bell being rebellious (like smoking some more).  Still a good chunk of money to tie up in a RB though.  

[PuRock]

3 minutes ago, drillem said:

How did the defense fold like a cheap suit in the 4th quarter after such a decent 3 quarters?  Something smells to high heaven.

Has the Raven D ever proven they can shut down a game when playing from ahead?  There is a consistent weak link.  

[redrum52]

3 minutes ago, PuRock said:

Has the Raven D ever proven they can shut down a game when playing from ahead?  There is a consistent weak link.  

I get the anger towards Pees, but he tried sending pressure and it still sidnt get their.  Our pass rush the past two years has been severely lacking.  Many have said throughout that would be a problem.  If you cant generate pressure you're done.

[drillem]

1 hour ago, PuRock said:

If the Bills beat the Dolphins and Oakland lost this weekend, I envisioned the Pats losing to ensure the Ravens were kept out of the wildcard spot.  They'd rather face the inexperienced Dolphins and a backup QB than an experienced Ravens team on the road to the SB.

Superbowl!!! We're not talking superbowl!!! This team it too old and slow to get to the bus to take 'em home after the game.   Wanna bet there are some changes this off-season???  I'd be willing to bet there will be major coaching and player changes.  Maybe even management changes to boot.  Shake up is wake up time in Baltimore.  This team lacks any ability to get out of their own way.  Entirely inadequate.  Surely toast and mostly ghastly.  

[Ravensfan23]

1 minute ago, rmw10 said:

See, I don't think tonight should be the barometer.  He called a pretty good game tonight, but that doesn't excuse the awfulness of what we've seen from him in the past.  I mean, that Patriots game plan was among the worst I've ever seen.  He had 0 answers and made 0 adjustments.  If you consider tonight his best game and the Patriots game his worst game, most of his other games are closer to that Patriots game in his tenure as our OC.

So the Pats game should be the barometer? 

Because other than the decision to throw in the endzone instead of running to put the game away I can say the Eagles game was a really well called game. I definitely can say the Dolphins games was well called. Other than not staying aggressive and putting the game away vs the Bengals I can say that was a well called game. So we're talking 4 of the last 5 games and the NE game should condemn him? I agree the NE game was bad, really bad but I see a offense that need tweaking not a over haul. 

Like I said, if there is someone clearly better than Marty, great. Put this team has bigger issues than Marty running the offense. Like it or not he's done more than enough warrant a full offseason to run this offense unless there is someone clearly better.  

[rmw10]

7 minutes ago, Ravensfan23 said:

So the Pats game should be the barometer? 

Because other than the decision to throw in the endzone instead of running to put the game away I can say the Eagles game was a really well called game. I definitely can say the Dolphins games was well called. Other than not staying aggressive and putting the game away vs the Bengals I can say that was a well called game. So we're talking 4 of the last 5 games and the NE game should condemn him? I agree the NE game was bad, really bad but I see a offense that need tweaking not a over haul. 

Like I said, if there is someone clearly better than Marty, great. Put this team has bigger issues than Marty running the offense. Like it or not he's done more than enough warrant a full offseason to run this offense unless there is someone clearly better.  

It's not the barometer, no, but his season has been much closer to that than what it was today. He's been awful. Not much will change my mind on that matter. I'd be highly disappointed if this team moved forward with him and thought he was the best option. 

[waybeyond]

Joe wasn't great, but the defense loss this game as they have many games this season when they had a lead. Some people say the defense was tired, but that is bull. THe Ravens offense owned time of possesion. THis defense is simply not that good when it comes to facing good offensive teams. There is also not enough playmakers on this team, or is it that they are just not being utilized as they should. This team had a lot of problems all around, and they really haven't been a really good team for a while.

 

[jboy19]

Found the pass rush on the first Steelers TD...

Edited December 26, 2016 by jboy19

[Tank 92]

Frustrating loss for sure. 

The Good - Flacco continued the upswing in his play and showed a lot of heart sticking in there while many around him were sucking.   Dixon continues to impress and should be a great one next year. D shutting Bell down after he had some success early. 

The Bad - Lack of a pass rush. For me this is what ultimately lost the game. As bad as Ben was, you give anybody that much time to throw and they are going to succeed.

The Ugly - Lack of play makers at WR. Wallace disappeared, Aiken, well......, Perriman with his board hands. Why didn't Camp play more? 

The Really Ugly - Watching Brown reach the ball over the goal line. Talk about a dagger in the back, just horrible. As good as Weddle was for us this year he's just not that physical of a player. 

[PurpleCity5]

3 hours ago, HazDaGeneral said:

Jim Corbett 

 

✔@ByJimCorbett

Unsung heroes of Steelers Christmas miracle AFC North comeback clincher -- an offensive line that made Terrell Suggs, Elvis Dumervil vanish.

8:01 PM - 25 Dec 2016

 

man these guys are done......they couldn't get any pressure and when they were close couldn't make the tackles

Doom I can understand, but Suggs made some plays out there. I personally think he did his thing tonight, got no help what so ever. 

[terrynjulia03]

I see people talking about needing to restructure Joes contract. Really people need to look at Jimmys. If you factor in "actual games played" he's the highest paid corner in the league. That needs to be addressed in the offseason for sure. He's a great player yes, but given return on your investment not so much. CB, and a #1 CB needs to be a top priority in the offseason. Young has played great but it just screams #2 on the depth chart guy. Which is fine and great WHEN Jimmy can play. Powers and Wright have proven they should be at the bottom of the depth chart. Gotta either draft someone in the 1st or 2nd(preferably) or look at FA. 

 

[redrum52]

Congrats @baroquenspirit... was a damn good game.

[frozen joe flacco fan]

2 hours ago, Militant X 1 said:

Friends of mine who are fans of other NFL teams kept saying to me; "Now that Ray Lewis and Ed Reed are gone; Flacco will never lead the Ravens to another Super Bowl and ya'll probably won't make the playoffs for years to come!"  By no means am I laying this loss tonight in Flacco's lap because he did what he could.  He played pretty well and had no INT's.  He even marched us down the field and got us the go ahead touchdown by Juice for the potential win.  However, the offense still couldn't score TD's in a few red zone trips, receivers dropping key passes, special teams bobbling a FG attempt snap for the first time and then the defense once again folded like a cheap suit in the 4th quarter.  Suggs/Doom had NO PASS RUSH whatsoever.  Big Ben remained upright and was able to scramble out a few times.  This team is shot!  There needs to be a major overhaul of some kind to take place from the coaches, the offense and the defense in order to right the ship.  Cause the reality is that it is sinking fast in this post Lewis/Reed era.

Tell your friends Joe Flacco put his team in a position to win the game with 78 seconds left in a road game against a good defensive team in a hostile environment and in a game we had to win to remain alive in the playoff hunt. We lost because ........ our defense could not protect a 10 point lead going into the final quarter and surrendered 3 TDs. We spotted the Steelers 7, our offense posted 27 points and left another 11 points on the field and our highly vaunted defense folded when it counted. It speaks volumes that The Baltimore Ravens sent 4 players to the Pro Bowl but only 1 was a defensive player - C.J.. No, its time the Wizard of Oz follows the yellow brick road out of town and takes some of the coaches with him. If its true that the players of today are bigger, stronger and faster than the players of yesteryear as some of our fans insist, then we should start drafting some of these speedy behemoths. I agree with your rationale but I do not agree with your friends' assessment of Joe's performance as a starting QB. He rose to the occasion like I hoped he would and did a phenomenal job. I only wish he could snap on FGs and catch his own throws in the end zone. 

[JonnyBaltimore]

8 minutes ago, frozen joe flacco fan said:

Tell your friends Joe Flacco put his team in a position to win the game with 78 seconds left in a road game against a good defensive team in a hostile environment and in a game we had to win to remain alive in the playoff hunt. We lost because ........ our defense could not protect a 10 point lead going into the final quarter and surrendered 3 TDs. We spotted the Steelers 7, our offense posted 27 points and left another 11 points on the field and our highly vaunted defense folded when it counted. It speaks volumes that The Baltimore Ravens sent 4 players to the Pro Bowl but only 1 was a defensive player - C.J.. No, its time the Wizard of Oz follows the yellow brick road out of town and takes some of the coaches with him. If its true that the players of today are bigger, stronger and faster than the players of yesteryear as some of our fans insist, then we should start drafting some of these speedy behemoths. I agree with your rationale but I do not agree with your friends' assessment of Joe's performance as a starting QB. He rose to the occasion like I hoped he would and did a phenomenal job. I only wish he could snap on FGs and catch his own throws in the end zone. 

I would temper that with the fact that our Defence generated 2 INTs in the red zone which led to easy points. On Mosley's INT, we were 1st and goal at the 13 yard line and settled for a field goal. Today, I think we just got beat by the better team. If we are going to look for fault for the season, we'd have to go back to mid-season. It's just a matter of too late as we dug ourselves too far deep in the hole with that 4 game losing streak.

[Marcus_Aurelius]

We had this game won, Defense were useless in the 4th Quarter, plain as the nose on your face.