Next Up: Ravens at Bengals Sunday January 1 1300 Paul Brown Stadium

[Cillmatic]

11 hours ago, Marcus_Aurelius said:

Bench the Defensive players, we know who they are, who let their team and all of us down big time, and play the rookies. 

All two of them.

[DomMcRaven]

It'd be definitely Ravens-esque if we won and the Dolphins lose. It would infuriate me to no end. 

[Marcus_Aurelius]

What's your point caller ? 

[ravensnj]

On 12/25/2016 at 8:10 PM, omar586 said:

put mallet in, and the rest of the backups, dont risk injuries to starters especially with dirty players on the bengels side.

I kinda like to see if Mallet can make something happen with our offense. This would be an indication if Joe is regressing or not fully recovered physically and mentally for the starting Qb job. He has been awful all year. 

[ravensnj]

I would like to see Elam play outside/ inside LB, cause he sure can't play safety.

[ravensnj]

On 12/26/2016 at 8:35 PM, BigMike said:

Lots of people on this thread seem like they hope we lose so we get a better pick. I'm of the belief you never let a losing mind set enter your locker room. Not for any reason. Once it enters, it may be hard to get out (ask the Browns). That said, it would be nice to see the young guys get more playing time. If they do, get them to play for the win!!!!

I would love a loss. I would also put all those so called developmental players on the field to see if they have a future. If not, clean the house and refill. 

[ravensnj]

On 12/27/2016 at 9:11 PM, omar586 said:

by far SSS was our spark of our offense. if he doesn't return, we need someone similar like GARCON.

Stop with the old guys! Let's draft a real receiver who will start and play for the next 15 yrs.

[Swift 1]

On 12/25/2016 at 8:03 PM, Moderator 3 said:

Harbaugh just said they're going full tilt to win next week.

OMG I thought the object of any game was to WIN. even tidley winks. I only read the first five oer six posts and all of them want to cheat. I do not know any of the  aprox 70K Bengals fans that paid aprox $100 a piece to see game but I believe they desreve an honest effort by both teams.

[Swift 1]

8 hours ago, Cawtious said:

How do we put in the rest of the backups when we only have 7 backups on the 53?  Cut people and see if they clear waivers?....

Play to win.  Losing for the sake of draft picks is how you become the Browns. 

Good post . Wish I could of given more than one Thumbs up.

[Swift 1]

On 12/26/2016 at 10:09 AM, Gruntled Ravens Fan said:

Sadly Baltimore will win this game like 34-13 and while it'll give another total win to his coaching record, it'll hurt the team long term because of the loss of good draft position.

LOSING is never good. Show me a man that likes to lose and I will show you a loser.

 

[Ravens4Real]

Bengals seem to be sitting anyone worth of note in this game. It will be a game where the Ravens win by 20.

[Cillmatic]

1 hour ago, ravensnj said:

Stop with the old guys! Let's draft a real receiver who will start and play for the next 15 yrs.

Lol, we're the Ravens, we don't "draft" good WR's.

[K-Dog]

Man if I had more money than brains I would be AT this game with my 89 jersey on.

[rmcjacket23]

4 hours ago, ravensnj said:

I would love a loss. I would also put all those so called developmental players on the field to see if they have a future. If not, clean the house and refill. 

So one game against a bad team that also may be playing some backups is all you need for an evaluation of our developmental players? Yeah, that's going to be a no. 

As is always the case, teams don't really have the luxury of benching all their "important" players. There's 46 players active on gameday, and you don't have nearly enough players to bench all your starters and anybody important.

[rmcjacket23]

4 hours ago, ravensnj said:

I kinda like to see if Mallet can make something happen with our offense. This would be an indication if Joe is regressing or not fully recovered physically and mentally for the starting Qb job. He has been awful all year. 

Again, one game sample size. If ANY coach in the league thinks they're going to make some sort of substantial judgement about a players future from ONE game, that coach deserves to be fired. If a fan really thought this, they too should be barred from supporting the team any longer.

Also ignores the fact that we already have a significant sample size from Mallett. The guy played 8 games for us last year and his production was far below anything you've seen from Flacco.

[Wisdom]

A meaningless game.  The Bengals are not even at full strength.  Nothing here to be excited about.  If we win it, so be it.

[Wisdom]

On 12/25/2016 at 8:46 PM, reed20 said:

Ah he did. Let him play just one drive then then sit em.

I have a better idea.  Let him play the entire game.  Why rest him at all?  It's not like he did a whole lot throughout the season.  As I recalled, he played somewhat well for 2 games out of 15.   If he wasn't benched for his poor below average performances then let's not sit him now thereby giving him another unearned pay day.  Let him at least try to work for his pay like most Americans do.

[Warren]

What would really be embarrassing would be the Ravens going all out to win and lose to a bunch of Bengals backups.

[Marcus_Aurelius]

Now that would teach them lesson.  Recent interviews Ive seen with Flacco and Suggs suggest that everything is just fine and dandy.  Well its not.

[stampedehero]

We would only be a stat @ 9-7 or 8-8.    The real game was Christmas night combined with our loss, all the media and NFL fans will adore the Steelers again. That annoys me. IMO Play all second team and avoid injuries to the million dollar personnel. SSS should play if He wants to.    

[ravensnj]

15 hours ago, rmcjacket23 said:

Again, one game sample size. If ANY coach in the league thinks they're going to make some sort of substantial judgement about a players future from ONE game, that coach deserves to be fired. If a fan really thought this, they too should be barred from supporting the team any longer.

Also ignores the fact that we already have a significant sample size from Mallett. The guy played 8 games for us last year and his production was far below anything you've seen from Flacco.

20 TD'S 14 INTS: Horrible

Some int's were game losers and how about the strip sack fumbles? The guy looked slow in decision making, always looking deep, then checking down in front of the first down marker. Given, the receivers were awful, pretty much the norm around here.. I believe he only hit one wr in stride, laughable it was Perriman ,and that went for a TD!

I would have put his million dollar butt on the bench, until he decided to take his game back to where he was awarded the huge salary. The Ravens supposedly paid him for what he would give them in the future. I believe they have been ripped off the last 3 years. 

Edited December 30, 2016 by ravensnj

[Marcus_Aurelius]

20 minutes ago, ravensnj said:

20 TD'S 14 INTS: Horrible

Some int's were game losers and how about the strip sack fumbles? The guy looked slow in decision making, always looking deep, then checking down in front of the first down marker. Given, the receivers were awful, pretty much the norm around here.. I believe he only hit one wr in stride, laughable it was Perriman ,and that went for a TD!

I would have put his million dollar butt on the bench, until he decided to take his game back to where he was awarded the huge salary. The Ravens supposedly paid him for what he would give them in the future. I believe they have been ripped off the last 3 years. 

Agree.  These millionaire "Pro" footballers need to show us what they can do.  Talk is cheap (see recent interviews ala Harbaugh, Suggs, Flacco).  Lets see the action.  They can talk the talk, can they walk the walk ?  We will see come Sunday. 

[rmcjacket23]

34 minutes ago, ravensnj said:

20 TD'S 14 INTS: Horrible

Some int's were game losers and how about the strip sack fumbles? The guy looked slow in decision making, always looking deep, then checking down in front of the first down marker. Given, the receivers were awful, pretty much the norm around here.. I believe he only hit one wr in stride, laughable it was Perriman ,and that went for a TD!

I would have put his million dollar butt on the bench, until he decided to take his game back to where he was awarded the huge salary. The Ravens supposedly paid him for what he would give them in the future. I believe they have been ripped off the last 3 years. 

Well, the TD numbers are low certainly.

But then again, the yardage is very high, the completion percentage is very good, and his INT numbers are in line with the volume he's displayed throughout his career. Fans love these things... they love lots and lots of yards. Joe's given them to you. They love lots of completed passes. Joe's given them to you. 

So basically, he's been an equal or better QB than most of the seasons he's shown you so far. He's in his 9th year in the league at this point, so its not like fans should be expecting anything different.

And oddly enough, there is absolutely nothing on game film to suggest Mallett could even sniff those numbers. I see no scenario where Mallett could throw for 4,000 yards in a season or get anywhere near 20 TDs. He's got bigger things to worry about, like fending off Josh Johnson for a backup job.

Obviously benching players for worse players only leads to one inevitable outcome... you are worse.

 

Edited December 30, 2016 by rmcjacket23

[rmcjacket23]

14 hours ago, Wisdom said:

I have a better idea.  Let him play the entire game.  Why rest him at all?  It's not like he did a whole lot throughout the season.  As I recalled, he played somewhat well for 2 games out of 15.   If he wasn't benched for his poor below average performances then let's not sit him now thereby giving him another unearned pay day.  Let him at least try to work for his pay like most Americans do.

People aren't really paid for the "work" they put in. They're paid for the value they provide. 

Plus lets not sit here and pretend that "most" Americans are actually "hard" workers. "Hard" work is a subjective term to begin with, and I can assure you that there's no shortage of people posting on these forums right now (myself included) who are being compensated to post on these forums. 

I generally find that most Americans are in absolutely no position to judge anybody based on how "hard" they work. In cases of professional athletes, its mostly just fans who think they work so much harder than Pro Athletes do (rarely is the case) and are jealous of the fact that said athletes get paid gigantically more money (because they are more valuable than fans are at what they do).

 

[JoeyFlex5]

20 hours ago, ravensnj said:

Stop with the old guys! Let's draft a real receiver who will start and play for the next 15 yrs.

We don't draft wrs well, but we've done excellent with receivers heading into their last 1 or 2 contracts. Garcon isn't old either, he's in his prime.

[JoeyFlex5]

1 hour ago, ravensnj said:

20 TD'S 14 INTS: Horrible

Some int's were game losers and how about the strip sack fumbles? The guy looked slow in decision making, always looking deep, then checking down in front of the first down marker. Given, the receivers were awful, pretty much the norm around here.. I believe he only hit one wr in stride, laughable it was Perriman ,and that went for a TD!

I would have put his million dollar butt on the bench, until he decided to take his game back to where he was awarded the huge salary. The Ravens supposedly paid him for what he would give them in the future. I believe they have been ripped off the last 3 years. 

Well he had 2 tds dropped against pittsburgh, the game winner 's the skins where perriman didn't get his 2nd foot in, the dropped td vs the raiders, off the top of my head that's 4 tds he delivered and was let down by his receivers. That's also not counting the 3rd down conversions he delivered and were dropped that could have led to more tds. 24-14 is a very respectable statline, especially for an offense in flux shifting their starting OL around for months and changing coordinators midseason.

[Ravenseconbeast]

21 hours ago, ravensnj said:

I would like to see Elam play outside/ inside LB, cause he sure can't play safety.

Why?  Elam is done.   Project is over.  

Another guys im glad are gone are : Kendrick & Arrington.  

[Ravenseconbeast]

If anything this game has to offer, is  Steve Smith(and maybe Doom& Pitta) last appearance in Ravens uniform.  

Hope all 3 of those guys perform.   We didn't make the playoffs.  But lets see some fireworks vs. Bengals.  Beat them down and go off with a good last game of the season for all 3 of them.

 

 

[K-Dog]

Are there any other records Steve Smith could realistically set on Sunday?

[hn68wb4]

Jimmy Smith to IR and Keenan Reynolds promoted from practice squad. Also Zach Orr, Alex Lewis, and Ricky Wagner have been ruled out of the game.

I really wish they'd send Yanda and Suggs to IR with Smith. Give them an early offseason to heal up. This game is 99% meaningless, the change in draft position for us is pretty much negligible, a difference of 1, maybe 2, picks between 17 and 19. Rest the guys who are injured, we need them healthy to start next season, especially those key guys like Smith, Yanda, and Suggs, and let our young guys have this game so we can see what we've got. Wish Correa wasn't on IR, would like to get a real look of what we've got in him, but oh well.

The NFL will be pissed at us treating the game like a preseason game, but I still think we should. Pretty much nothing is at stake here and our chances for next year are promising, we can't afford to lose anyone to a serious injury.

 

But knowing Harbaugh we're going to come out with all active starters and play this useless game hard, and probably come back to bit us on the rear.