Next Up: Ravens at Bengals Sunday January 1 1300 Paul Brown Stadium

[OUravensfan]

5 minutes ago, PuRock said:

This is a really sickening loss because there were so many moments in this game that if one thing occurred, it could have changed the outcome in our favor.  

-We stop Brown at the 1.  They have to spike and maybe have enough time to kick a FG.  

-We were a second away from stripping Ben from behind on a throw late in the game.

-If Juices knee goes down at the 1 yard line. We could have shaved at least another 30 seconds off the clock.  

-If Denis and Joe connect on one of their two failed TD attempts.

And don't forget Waller and hell, granted it would of been amazing, but Perriman hauls in that catch wow. So many it hurts, and your 3rd bullet is a brutal form of irony, but obviously no guarantee we score there (though we probably do) if he did go down. 

[PuRock]

Just now, OUravensfan said:

And don't forget Waller and hell, granted it would of been amazing, but Perriman hauls in that catch wow. So many it hurts, and your 3rd bullet is a brutal form of irony, but obviously no guarantee we score there (though we probably do) if he did go down. 

Our offense was moving the ball well this game.  Some games it seems impossible to score with three downs on the one.  But in this one, I think four downs at the 1 and we score without much resistance.  

We were all cheering when Juice reached for the endzone.  But damn, if only his knee went down it would have played better.  Can't fault the guy, he breaks a tackle and sees the endzone within reach.  Absolutely stellar play.  One that us Ravens fans will have remembered.....if we won.  

[Militant X 1]

21 minutes ago, OUravensfan said:

Really sickening loss, so many missed opportunities Mili, story of the year I suppose. Trying to erase it from memory but I'm sure if Mosley didn't have a bad angle he could of stopped Brown. 

Do you see a new OC and/or DC here next season? We'll definitely need to supplement the loss of Smith Sr. I'm assuming likely through FA. 

I hope to see a lot of Perriman, Moore and Smith this Bengals game, I love Dixon.

This game was actually a reflection of the Ravens entire season.  And, I'd love to see a few things happen.  

Offensively:  The O-line needs to be a MAIN PRIORITY!  Take a page out of Dallas' playbook on that.  We also need some new receivers badly.  SSS will retire and Aiken is pure trash.  That leaves us with Wallace, Perriman, Waller, Campanaro and Moore.  Not nearly world beaters to be honest.  We're good at the TE spot once everyone is healthy with Maxx, Crockett and Boyle.  Watson/Pitta?  Don't know.  RB's?  West and Dixon are a great 1-2 punch.  Juice is beasting at FB so we're good there imo.

Defensively: Suggs and Doom ARE DONE!!!  Neither one of those cats got any significant QB pressure on Big Ben tonight.  We need younger and fresher, faster and stronger lions at the OLB spots to rush the passer.  Mosley and Orr are solid MLB's that's improving in their coverage play.  And we definitely need some new corners and safeties that's for sure.  As far as OC and/or DC moves?  Both Pees and Marty have glaring weaknesses and habits that they just can't seem to shake that costs us games imo.  They both may need to go...sooner rather than later!  Their replacements?  I'll think on it.

Edited December 26, 2016 by Militant X 1

[terps85]

Ravens will win and then miss out on Mike Williams or Tim Williams by 1 pick. 

[redrum52]

@Militant X 1 i honestly think if we could have kept KO we win another 2 games at least.  Said for years OL should always be a teams priority.

[OUravensfan]

14 minutes ago, Militant X 1 said:

This game was actually a reflection of the Ravens entire season.  And, I'd love to see a few things happen.  

Offensively:  The O-line needs to be a MAIN PRIORITY!  Take a page out of Dallas' playbook on that.  We also need some new receivers badly.  SSS will retire and Aiken is pure trash.  That leaves us with Wallace, Perriman, Campanaro and Moore.  Not nearly world beaters to be honest.  We're good at the TE spot once everyone is healthy with Maxx, Crockett and Boyle.  Pitta?  Don't know.  RB's?  West and Dixon are a great 1-2 punch.  Juice is beasting at FB so we're good there imo.

Defensively: Suggs and Doom ARE DONE!!!  Neither one of those cats got any significant QB pressure on Big Ben tonight.  We need younger and fresher, faster and stronger lions at the OLB spots to rush the passer.  Mosley and Orr are solid MLB's that's improving in their coverage play.  And we definitely need some new corners and safeties that's for sure.  As far as OC and/or DC moves?  Both Pees and Marty have glaring weaknesses and habits that they just can't seem to shake that costs us games imo.  They both may need to go...sooner rather than later!  Their replacements?  I'll think on it.

Well then me and you are on the same page, I really like Stanley, Young and Dixon so far, trying to focus on the positives.

[jboy19]

I wish we could see Lewis at RT for a game, but I doubt he gets ready in time. 

[RaineV1]

1 hour ago, OUravensfan said:

Really sickening loss, so many missed opportunities Mili, story of the year I suppose. Trying to erase it from memory but I'm sure if Mosley didn't have a bad angle he could of stopped Brown. 

Do you see a new OC and/or DC here next season? We'll definitely need to supplement the loss of Smith Sr. I'm assuming likely through FA. 

I hope to see a lot of Perriman, Moore and Smith this Bengals game, I love Dixon.

I hope we get a new OC and DC. There should be some good ones on the market. I see the Chargers changing up their staff to start fresh in LA, so there's McCoy or Wisenhunt for an upgrade at OC. We already know Gus Bradly has been fired, and he was a pretty good DC, just a bad HC.

[terrynjulia03]

I see this as a see what you got for next year. I'd run real heavy on the rookies. Sit players like Doom and Zuttah who won't be in the team next year and let some other guys get their shot at proving they should be starting. It's the a division game and regardless both teams want to win. So throw the younger guys or backups in there against the wolves and sink or swim. At least you'll know what you have in the offseason. Now of course you hope the Bengals play everyone that's healthy and people get real game experience and it doesn't turn into a preseason game. 

[ravensdfan]

14 hours ago, Moderator 3 said:

Harbaugh just said they're going full tilt to win next week.

Which proves he's an idiot - something I've never said about him. This game means zero to Cincy or us - not even like we'll play spoilers. All a win here does is hurt our draft selection.

[Gruntled Ravens Fan]

1 minute ago, ravensdfan said:

Which proves he's an idiot - something I've never said about him. This game means zero to Cincy or us - not even like we'll play spoilers. All a win here does is hurt our draft selection.

Sadly Baltimore will win this game like 34-13 and while it'll give another total win to his coaching record, it'll hurt the team long term because of the loss of good draft position.

[ant2ney]

As far as im concerned the best possible outcome is a loss with some encouraging individual performances.

Few things I'm hoping for:

-Flacco shouldn't even be active

-Perriman, Moore and Campanaro to be our WR1, WR2 and slot. Let's force feed Perriman 10+ targets and give him a real chance to show what he can do.

-Let Judon play pretty much every snap, allowing for the normal rotation of staters.

-Tell Yanda and Wagner to book their holidays, let Jensen start and play the whole game. If Alex Lewis is 100% give him a look at RT.

-Is Willie Henry on IR? If not, give him some decent playing time.

-Let's see if Michael Pierce can handle the additional workload that comes with being the starting NT. It's certainly more than possible that Brandon Williams will be playing elsewhere next season.

Im hoping pretty much everyone veteran starter sits. Still think Ronnie Stanley should play as he is still learning every game- plus if we play too many backups in the OL, Ryan Mallett might well not make it through the game unharmed.

-Same applies to Dixon and Tavon Young- any playing time is hugely valuable to rookies.

 

However I fully expect Harbaugh to treat this as if we need the win- with 1 playoff appearance in 4 seasons, his position has never been weaker than it is right now.

[ravensdfan]

I'm not on the fire Harbs wagon however, if we go all out this game and starters go down with injuries - especially serious ones - then he should be gone.

[Tank 92]

15 hours ago, Moderator 3 said:

Treat it like pre-season and let the rookies play.

Yep. It is a conundrum of who to play and who to sit. Don't think you can go into the game not caring though as that's just a losing mentality you don't want in the locker room. 

[Moderator 3]

41 minutes ago, Tank 92 said:

Yep. It is a conundrum of who to play and who to sit. Don't think you can go into the game not caring though as that's just a losing mentality you don't want in the locker room. 

Okay, maybe we can let the "starters" start and then pull them as soon as it gets chippy.  I hate the dirty-playing Bengals.

[OUravensfan]

I think we blow the Bengals out and it starts a new era of dominance over them.

[AsianRice]

It's time to put us fans onto the active roster against the Bengals....

[codizzle]

56 minutes ago, AsianRice said:

It's time to put us fans onto the active roster against the Bengals....

Haha no thanks.. I'd get killed out there 

[codizzle]

This game is a tough spot.. you never want to "concede" or show you're not going 100% for the win as a team but there is literally nothing to play for and only a loss would help 

 

as a fan I'd rather see them lose because the game doesn't matter at all but I understand the need to go for the win 

[OUravensfan]

12 minutes ago, codizzle said:

This game is a tough spot.. you never want to "concede" or show you're not going 100% for the win as a team but there is literally nothing to play for and only a loss would help 

 

as a fan I'd rather see them lose because the game doesn't matter at all but I understand the need to go for the win 

I want the win against this division rival, they tied the overall series 20-20 last year, a sweep is a move in the right direction. They're exactly the franchise that would want to lose this game, we're better than that, besides we'd probably end up drafting some project that never plays anyway.

[RavensPunkXVX]

This might be meaningless to the fans, but I personally want the win. Hate hearing about draft position. Not to mention, this is a professional sport, winning is all they're thinking about, especially against a division rival.

[Militant X 1]

14 hours ago, redrum52 said:

@Militant X 1 i honestly think if we could have kept KO we win another 2 games at least.  Said for years OL should always be a teams priority.

That's possible Red however, we both know that the Ravens have this annoying habit of letting good players walk.

14 hours ago, OUravensfan said:

Well then me and you are on the same page, I really like Stanley, Young and Dixon so far, trying to focus on the positives.

I like Stanley, Young and Dixon as well.  West is impressive but imo Dixon is the "main" horse we should hitch our wagon to in the run game.  Dixon and Juice? Oh my goodness!  That's pure hell in the backfield!  

One of the things that really pissed me off about the Ravens going down the stretch is their inability to produce a solid and consistent pass rush in multiple games now and it all came to a head last night.  Suggs and Doom are done in my book...done!  Got to find the younger, faster, stronger and hungrier lions for the pass rush.

[Prophet93]

I'd like to win this one. Sweeping a division rival is nice, plus I'd rather this team finish as a winning one rather than a .500 team. And after last week, I'd like us to go into the offseason with some positive energy. That said, like many of you have already made a point of, I think we should really run our young guys, and rest our injured ones.

Give Suggs, Yanda, Wagner, and Jimmy the day off.

Start Alex Lewis at RT.

Throw tons of balls to Perriman, Moore, Waller, and Boyle.

Give Buck some carries.

Sit Doom. Give Pierce and Judon a lot of time on D. Make Zadarius active for this one too

Launch a deep one to SSS to send him off to retirement in style

[Deflated Football]

Harbaugh just said Jimmy won't play on Sunday. He looks really depressed and probably just wants this season to be over ASAP.

[Rav'n Maniac]

I would find this funny.

Since the game means absolutely nothing and we can gain draft position by losing, why bother even showing up. Might as well call it a season and just stay home. We'd be really screwing the Bengals with a forfeit and a lower draft position that would totally stick in their craw. 

[HoldingCall]

I fully expect the Ravens will play to win this game while using the best players. Exceptions maybe those with injuries like Suggs and Yanda. 

[HoldingCall]

14 minutes ago, Rav'n Maniac said:

I would find this funny.

Since the game means absolutely nothing and we can gain draft position by losing, why bother even showing up. Might as well call it a season and just stay home. We'd be really screwing the Bengals with a forfeit and a lower draft position that would totally stick in their craw. 

Actually, many thought Joe lacked fire during the season because those game weren't as important. As it stands now, those early games cost the team in the end. I fully expect Joe to play at least an entire half.

[HoldingCall]

Hey, all game matter! There is risk of injury in every game, that's why players get the game checks. They are on the team to win so why get the next game off after losing? Shouldn't they have a few extra wins during the season to earn the final game off?

 

[Cillmatic]

If we aren't playing to win I don't see a point in playing the starters. If you want to win you'll have to put injuried players like Yanda and Co. and I really can't see a reason to do so, especially knowing how dirty the Bengals are.

[Ravens4Real]

One reason that these coaches will play starters and play to win is that they could be coaching for their jobs. Players that are playing for a spot on this team or another team will play all out. 

How about Steve Smith? It will probably be his last game ever. Who gets the job of telling him he's not going to play? 

Bengals are placing a ton of guys on IR. I believe we win this game.