[News] Late For Work 12/19: Seven Eagles-Ravens Game Takeaways, Including Playoff Scenarios

[metalraven]

On 12/20/2016 at 10:34 AM, Crusader said:

Not sure how pointing out bad technique skills are"Flacco Hater" comments but the "elite" status has definitely gone out the window for NOW. Just remember “One ‘aw, crap’ wipes out a ten ‘attaboys‘“

Exactly. Trust me. I want Flacco to succeed. I want him to be awesome, and I want him to put up big numbers, including TDs, yards and wins. But he doesn't do that, and much can be blamed on his bad technique and bad decisions.

[billiejean]

17 hours ago, The Mom Gene said:

22 hours ago, billiejean said:

both of thsoe articles are talking about a single game and this is no excuse but two of the penalites against him during that game were bogus. He had three penalties that game but he has only had 5 penalties for the entire season. And I mentioned in my response Marshall Yanda has had just as many drive killing penalties as Zuttah. So if that is the only reason you think hes not playing well than Marshall not be playing well either. But what is it with the penalties thing do I have to show you your original comment again. Here it is.

"It's not Stanley or Yanda that I have a problem with... It's the Center and the other side..... Those guys are doing a great job of keeping people off of Joe. Zuttah is constantly being pushed back into Joe."

And I am going to sound like a broken record but my comment was a rebuttle about "Zuttah constantly being pushed back" In no part of your comment were penalties mentioned.

Penalties did come up in your reply to my comment about JZ not playing poorly and here that is.

"It's the penalties billiejean. They're drive killers. False starts... illegal formation."

I was a bit confused when you changed the subject and started talking about penalties. So in my reply I had to touch on the issue because the only penalties that you did list were penalties that centers dont get flagged for. You totally changed the subject bring up penalties and then you mentioned two penalties that dont get called on centers. It was a double whammy of confusion. I will say that there is no question in my mind that Zuttah cost us the Dallas game but it was one game. It really doesn't matter at the end of the day but two of the penalites were bogus.

The article below has a video of one of them and above the video the writer questions the call. I cant find any video of the other one at the moment. The video is under Item number 6.

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Late-For-Work-1121-Eight-Takeaways-After-Cowboys-Beat-Ravens/65888879-6fdb-45a0-97cb-f528ce9bd55c

I'm not going to respond to your entire post, because the second article clearly doesn't.  It refers to his consistent problems he's had.  I'm done arguing about it.

 

But, in case you just missed this part... 

"Going all the way back to Week 1, his performance against the Buffalo Bills was shaky at best. Since then, his poor play has been masked by the offensive line regressing as a unit, but on a day when the left and right sides both were solid, Zuttah’s struggles were on full display.

 

If he can't turn it around soon, the Ravens may want to look for some fresh blood at the position in order to protect Joe Flacco, and also find some consistency in the running game. In the meantime, head coach John Harbaugh would be wise to challenge Zuttah to play with some more discipline.

If he doesn't, the Ravens can expect more of the same from what is proving to be a pitiful offensive unit.

 

Ohhhhhh mom, you cant respond to the rest of it because there isn't a rebuttal that would make my statements false... And I wasn't going to go there, but since you brought it up, the only source that you quoted is by far the most unreliable source in Baltimore. The guys on 105.7 make more sense than that web site. Their "reporters" if you can call them that are glorified bloggers. You yourself could even write a piece for SB nation if you wanted to, but they pay per article and are particularly cheap.  Which in turn provides a cheap, unreliable product. They have a site for every single pro football team and basketball team and only have 29 full time employees. Not only that but a lot of their "reporters" don't even live in the city that they are covering. Here is a little bit more about that.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/07/business/media/07fans.html

And like I said before, I have no doubt in my mind that JZ cost us the Dallas game. He had 3 drive killers, but as I said before two were clearly reaches. I have found video of two of them below both of the videos the writers question the call. But really that is no excuse. He killed us in the Dallas game which your first article points out.

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Late-For-Work-1121-Eight-Takeaways-After-Cowboys-Beat-Ravens/65888879-6fdb-45a0-97cb-f528ce9bd55c

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/What-You-Missed-vs-Dallas-Cowboys/3013396f-4039-4d4a-9384-6eee234d3162

And here are some legitimate pieces on Jeremy Zuttah performance this season. At the half way point JZ and Kyle had the two highest grades on our entire offense including Yanda. He was able to achieve this grade even though his first four game were very shaky.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-eagles-rise-to-no-4-chiefs-to-no-10-in-pffs-nfl-power-rankings-for-week-8/

Since you were gracious enough to type out the quotes from those glorified bloggers I will do the same......

"Jeremy Zuttah has played well for much of the year"
http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Ravens-Breakout-Sparked-By-Ronnie-Stanley-Offensive-Line/3faa870d-7652-4749-8795-c5317b1dc44c

"Jeremy Zuttah is playing well at center (outside of his three penalties in Dallas)"
http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Ravens-Running-Back-Tandem-Ready-To-Roll-In-December/9dd97b1f-8f89-48f7-9759-08b688794e04

I saw on another board that you were not only not happy with his performance this year but you also thought he played terrible last year. Here are some articles that clear that up.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/10-best-sack-less-streaks-among-centers/

http://www.rotoworld.com/recent/nfl/4836/jeremy-zuttah

"Prior to going down, Zuttah had graded out as PFF's No. 8 center, excelling both in the run and pass games."

Edited December 22, 2016 by billiejean

[Halshayeji]

Dear Sarah, I gotta give you credit where credit is due. Because I personally have been hard on you a few times in the past couple of years. 

Great objective article! The facts you stated were spot on! This is by far the best LFW all year. I don't wanna seem like I'm taking credit away from you other great work but this one was simple but special. 10/10 Thank you!

[Halshayeji]

On December 19, 2016 at 10:13 PM, Ravenous_Ravens said:

Run game was only exposed as the Ravens seemed more focused on ensuring the secondary was not exposed. Run Defense will be back to form for Steelers game, hopefully Smith is able to return as well.

With the way West has been working and running the ball, do not stop. If you want to wear teams out, you run the ball all game. When the fourth quarter comes around, the opponents defense will flat out be gassed and you will have also kept your defense nice and fresh.

Need to have a clean game next week. So selfish penalties that could literally cost the season.

Great post. I also noticed the same thing. We over compensated to help the secondary and Phili ran quick weird runing plays. I have absolute faith in our run stopping ability but I have to admit that this concerned me the most after the game ended.

i saw Flacco make very good decisions for the most part and some really good throws that he's been missing all year.

i saw more of a commitment runing the ball for most of the game than iv seen for most of the year.

I saw Ducase really struggle and it's not his fault. An undrafted rookie shouldn't be wxpected to do much more in a week 15 game.

Had we not made that mistake with 7 mins left this game could have been a blow out. But this is the NFL. A play here and a play there are often the difference between a W or an L.

That game agains the Eagles could be the best thing that happened to the Ravens if we learn from it and the worst thing if we get exposed by it.

i hope Lewis comes back ASAP and this team officially goes as far as our Oline takes it.

Our playoffs have already started. Win or go home babe!