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[7NationArmy]

Dear Ravens,

When we all complained last week because the offense was moving too slow and they weren't being aggressive late in the 4th quarter, it was because we were DOWN 10 not UP 10.

DOWN 10 = HURRY/AGGRESSIVE
UP 10 = SLOW DOWN/RUN THE BALL

Please print this off to have as a reference.

PS. If you could return the years that I lost of my life due to the end of that game that would be great. Whenever you get the chance.

Thanks,
Ravens Fans

[VermontRaven]

"The Ravens could win a wild-card spot … by finishing 1-1 AND the Dolphins losing out AND the Texans, Broncos and Titans finishing 1-1. A single win by the Dolphins would prevent a wild-card spot for Baltimore."

This should read Texans OR Titans finishing at 1-1 (which is all but guaranteed because they play each other in Week 17)  If one of the teams wins both games, they are 10-6, but would win the division.  Ravens have tiebreak over all AFC playoff contenders.  So, the only way Texans and Titans get in over Ravens if Ravens finish 9-7 is if both Houston and Tennessee win in Week 16 and Houston-Tennessee TIE in Week 17. 

-So, in reality, we need to losses by Dolphins (@ Bills, vs. Patriots) --It would help if Raiders beat the Colts next week, so then the Patriots would have to win WEek 17 to ensure home field advantage.  If Raiders lose to Colts, Patriots might rest their starters.  Also, another thing that bears watching (also involving the Raiders)  If Patriots win out--Raiders might rest starters in Week 17 vs. Broncos (Patriots play at 1:00, Raiders play at 4:00 in week 17)  So--the best bet for a Broncos loss may be Week 16 at KC.

---LOTS of Ifs and things that would have to go right to get wildcard--hopefully the Ravens take care of business @ Pitt and @ Cincy!

 

[PurpleRainBlackVeins]

Did anyone else feel the awkwardness of Harbaugh's uncontrollable cough during the press conference? It was so bad he had to abruptly cut the presser short!

[bioLarzen]

The "all-time worst call" apparently was appointing Mornhinweg to OC - which, as everybody knows, was Harbaugh's. So, it's just fair he takes responsibility...

[Black&purple#55]

"The Ravens could win a wild-card spot … by finishing 1-1 AND the Dolphins losing out AND the Texans, Broncos and Titans finishing 1-1. A single win by the Dolphins would prevent a wild-card spot for Baltimore."

This should read Texans OR Titans finishing at 1-1 (which is all but guaranteed because they play each other in Week 17)  If one of the teams wins both games, they are 10-6, but would win the division.  Ravens have tiebreak over all AFC playoff contenders.  So, the only way Texans and Titans get in over Ravens if Ravens finish 9-7 is if both Houston and Tennessee win in Week 16 and Houston-Tennessee TIE in Week 17. 

-So, in reality, we need to losses by Dolphins (@ Bills, vs. Patriots) --It would help if Raiders beat the Colts next week, so then the Patriots would have to win WEek 17 to ensure home field advantage.  If Raiders lose to Colts, Patriots might rest their starters.  Also, another thing that bears watching (also involving the Raiders)  If Patriots win out--Raiders might rest starters in Week 17 vs. Broncos (Patriots play at 1:00, Raiders play at 4:00 in week 17)  So--the best bet for a Broncos loss may be Week 16 at KC.

---LOTS of Ifs and things that would have to go right to get wildcard--hopefully the Ravens take care of business @ Pitt and @ Cincy!

 

Wildcard scenario is so confusing man, lets beat steelers & cincy

[bioLarzen]

Did anyone else feel the awkwardness of Harbaugh's uncontrollable cough during the press conference? It was so bad he had to abruptly cut the presser short!

Well, that happens. As a teacher, I once had to cancel a class because about 15 minute sinto the class the exact same thing happened to me. Lasted for about 20 minutes.

[robbie29]

It is nauseating to read all the different playoff scenario combinations.

[TorryGundy]

The "all-time worst call" apparently was appointing Mornhinweg to OC - which, as everybody knows, was Harbaugh's. So, it's just fair he takes responsibility...

It amazes me how Harbs seems so confused about things that happen in game. Doesn't he have a headset lol. He really needs to spend time with his brother and learn offense . he relies on Special teams and whatever the coordinators tell him.

[TorryGundy]

Dear Ravens,

When we all complained last week because the offense was moving too slow and they weren't being aggressive late in the 4th quarter, it was because we were DOWN 10 not UP 10.

DOWN 10 = HURRY/AGGRESSIVE
UP 10 = SLOW DOWN/RUN THE BALL

Please print this off to have as a reference.

PS. If you could return the years that I lost of my life due to the end of that game that would be great. Whenever you get the chance.

Thanks,
Ravens Fans

Greatest post of the year lol

[hereweare]

25 minutes ago, VermontRaven said:

"The Ravens could win a wild-card spot … by finishing 1-1 AND the Dolphins losing out AND the Texans, Broncos and Titans finishing 1-1. A single win by the Dolphins would prevent a wild-card spot for Baltimore."

This should read Texans OR Titans finishing at 1-1 (which is all but guaranteed because they play each other in Week 17)  If one of the teams wins both games, they are 10-6, but would win the division.  Ravens have tiebreak over all AFC playoff contenders.  So, the only way Texans and Titans get in over Ravens if Ravens finish 9-7 is if both Houston and Tennessee win in Week 16 and Houston-Tennessee TIE in Week 17. 

-So, in reality, we need to losses by Dolphins (@ Bills, vs. Patriots) --It would help if Raiders beat the Colts next week, so then the Patriots would have to win WEek 17 to ensure home field advantage.  If Raiders lose to Colts, Patriots might rest their starters.  Also, another thing that bears watching (also involving the Raiders)  If Patriots win out--Raiders might rest starters in Week 17 vs. Broncos (Patriots play at 1:00, Raiders play at 4:00 in week 17)  So--the best bet for a Broncos loss may be Week 16 at KC.

---LOTS of Ifs and things that would have to go right to get wildcard--hopefully the Ravens take care of business @ Pitt and @ Cincy!

 

Why would we need two Miami losses? I'm confused on how this is working. If 3 or more teams are tied at 9-7. ( Ravens, Broncos, Miami, and/or Texans)
it goes a) division, b )  common games, and c) conference.

b ) common games are cincy, pats. everyone is W/L  
Ravens a) 5-1  c) 8-4
Broncos a) 2-4 c) 6-6
Texans a) 5-1 c) 7-5
Dolphins a) 4-2 c) 7-5

So at 9-7 Ravens are in, no??

Edited December 19, 2016 by hereweare

[TheRavengers]

I'm becoming of the opinion that the Ravens just want to scare their fanbase by making all of these games exciting, and they are but for all the wrong reasons.

[whobilly]

  33 minutes ago, VermontRaven said:

"The Ravens could win a wild-card spot … by finishing 1-1 AND the Dolphins losing out AND the Texans, Broncos and Titans finishing 1-1. A single win by the Dolphins would prevent a wild-card spot for Baltimore."

This should read Texans OR Titans finishing at 1-1 (which is all but guaranteed because they play each other in Week 17)  If one of the teams wins both games, they are 10-6, but would win the division.  Ravens have tiebreak over all AFC playoff contenders.  So, the only way Texans and Titans get in over Ravens if Ravens finish 9-7 is if both Houston and Tennessee win in Week 16 and Houston-Tennessee TIE in Week 17. 

-So, in reality, we need to losses by Dolphins (@ Bills, vs. Patriots) --It would help if Raiders beat the Colts next week, so then the Patriots would have to win WEek 17 to ensure home field advantage.  If Raiders lose to Colts, Patriots might rest their starters.  Also, another thing that bears watching (also involving the Raiders)  If Patriots win out--Raiders might rest starters in Week 17 vs. Broncos (Patriots play at 1:00, Raiders play at 4:00 in week 17)  So--the best bet for a Broncos loss may be Week 16 at KC.

---LOTS of Ifs and things that would have to go right to get wildcard--hopefully the Ravens take care of business @ Pitt and @ Cincy!

 

Why would we need two Miami losses? I'm confused on how this is working. If 3 or more teams are tied at 9-7. ( Ravens, Broncos, Miami, and/or Texans)
it goes a) division, b )  common games, and c) conference.

b ) common games are cincy, pats. everyone is W/L  
Ravens a) 5-1  c) 8-4
Broncos a) 2-4 c) 6-6
Texans a) 5-1 c) 7-5
Dolphins a) 4-2 c) 7-5

So at 9-7 Ravens are in, no??

To add to the confusion.....if Ravens and Dolphins are the only teams in the mix for the final wild card spot wouldn't we get it based on head to head?

[hereweare]

Just now, whobilly said:

To add to the confusion.....if Ravens and Dolphins are the only teams in the mix for the final wild card spot wouldn't we get it based on head to head?

yes. And add any other team to the mix for a 3way tie and I still feel Ravens advance at 9-7...I think

Edited December 19, 2016 by hereweare

[metalraven]

Screw the playoff scenarios. JUST WIN THE GAMES

[illinoisravensfan]

My tombstone is gonna read "Why didn't they go for the THREE!"

[VermontRaven]

17 minutes ago, hereweare said:

Why would we need two Miami losses? I'm confused on how this is working. If 3 or more teams are tied at 9-7. ( Ravens, Broncos, Miami, and/or Texans)
it goes a) division, b )  common games, and c) conference.

b ) common games are cincy, pats. everyone is W/L  
Ravens a) 5-1  c) 8-4
Broncos a) 2-4 c) 6-6
Texans a) 5-1 c) 7-5
Dolphins a) 4-2 c) 7-5

So at 9-7 Ravens are in, no??

Dolphins are 9-5 right now...so they have to lose twice to fall to 9-7.

--Basically, after head to head, it goes to conference record, which the Ravens beat all other AFC teams because 3 of their losses are to NFC teams (Redskins, Giants, Cowboys)

http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures

 

TO BREAK A TIE FOR THE WILD-CARD TEAM

 

Three or More Clubs

(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of applicable two-club format.)

1. Apply division tie breaker to eliminate all but the highest ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. The original seeding within a division upon application of the division tie breaker remains the same for all subsequent applications of the procedure that are necessary to identify the two Wild-Card participants.
2. Head-to-head sweep. (Applicable only if one club has defeated each of the others or if one club has lost to each of the others.)
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in conference games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss

When the first Wild-Card team has been identified, the procedure is repeated to name the second Wild-Card, i.e., eliminate all but the highest-ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. In situations where three or more teams from the same division are involved in the procedure, the original seeding of the teams remains the same for subsequent applications of the tie breaker if the top-ranked team in that division qualifies for a Wild-Card berth.

[hereweare]

1 minute ago, VermontRaven said:

Dolphins are 9-5 right now...so they have to lose twice to fall to 9-7.

-

oh crap lol thought dolphins were 8-6. Brutal

[RavensDieHard21]

The post about the 2016 draft is pretty spot on. We had a great class. But Correa pick made me scratch my head then and still does. Easily would have picked Spence and I'm sticking to it 

[whobilly]

Screw the playoff scenarios. JUST WIN THE GAMES

True. If we take care of our own business who cares what the other teams do.

[trevorsteadman]

49 minutes ago, 7NationArmy said:

Dear Ravens,

When we all complained last week because the offense was moving too slow and they weren't being aggressive late in the 4th quarter, it was because we were DOWN 10 not UP 10.

DOWN 10 = HURRY/AGGRESSIVE
UP 10 = SLOW DOWN/RUN THE BALL

Please print this off to have as a reference.

PS. If you could return the years that I lost of my life due to the end of that game that would be great. Whenever you get the chance.

Thanks,
Ravens Fans

But 3 games ago against the Bengals the Ravens did just that and the Bengals climbed back into the game... I like the aggressive call it didn't work out obviously and Flacco made a terrible throw. The defense can't let the Eagles lackluster offense move the ball like they did.

[PurpleRainBlackVeins]

  41 minutes ago, PurpleRainBlackVeins said:

Did anyone else feel the awkwardness of Harbaugh's uncontrollable cough during the press conference? It was so bad he had to abruptly cut the presser short!

Well, that happens. As a teacher, I once had to cancel a class because about 15 minute sinto the class the exact same thing happened to me. Lasted for about 20 minutes.

Oh ok. Yea I've had that happen too, his just seemed really weird. And he's been looking a little thin and aged lately. Could be the stress of the season and this team, and his job. Just observations I've been making.

[Crusader]

3) Ravens’ ‘Distaste For Running The Football Is Baffling’. Maybe they just don't know how to design and execute run pays and that part of the play book only has one page. Its obvious firing the first OC was not because of not running the ball but the Eagles connection. Same reason SSS came here.

[hereweare]

5 minutes ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

The post about the 2016 draft is pretty spot on. We had a great class. But Correa pick made me scratch my head then and still does. Easily would have picked Spence and I'm sticking to it 

For sure. Harbs avoids guys with baggage or even mild character concerns though

[ByTheBay]

I'm sure most of you don't care but I just found out that the xmas game will only be on nfl network. I am currently out of the area and dont have nfl network. So the game I've been waiting all year for will not be available to me. I have game pass but waiting until Monday to watch sucks. This is a huge reason that my intrest in the NFL has faded. To greedy to broadcast big games nationwide. I have lived and breathed football for 30 years but seriously doubt I will watch next year. Count me as one more fallen fan. How much money is enough for the NFL? I can tell you a dynasty dies slowly so they never see it coming. 

[The Mom Gene]

In a pass-happy league, the Ravens have a distaste for running the ball....... I'll just leave it at that.... How many top tier teams dominate in their running game? I know there are a few, but I'm Just asking.

[JD08]

Harbaugh nearly lost his job on that one, hopefully we can get balance, because West/Dixon proved they can carry the offense if given the chance. Haven't seen a update on Jimmy Smith, we will need him to matchup on Antonio Brown, because Shareece Wright will get torched

[Rav'n Maniac]

Weddle has been a good signing for us but, he was totally schooled by Wentz on the QB TD run. You don't wait at the goal line for the runner to come to you. You attack the runner to make the stop back three yards from the goal line. Worse play I've seen him attempt this year.

[TorryGundy]

In a pass-happy league, the Ravens have a distaste for running the ball....... I'll just leave it at that.... How many top tier teams dominate in their running game? I know there are a few, but I'm Just asking.

The first place teams...Dallas, New England, Pittsburg....

[TheRavengers]

39 minutes ago, RavensDieHard21 said:

The post about the 2016 draft is pretty spot on. We had a great class. But Correa pick made me scratch my head then and still does. Easily would have picked Spence and I'm sticking to it 

I've been wondering for a while what is Correa's issue right now?