[News] John Harbaugh Wishes He'd Vetoed 'All-Time Worst Play Call'

[purpledown]

we will be headed home this time next week. This team wont run the ball even when its working. Harbaugh needs to go along with his coaching staff. Flacco is not untouchable, no way they win in Pittsburgh next week, they wont stick with whats working.

[RaRaRavens]

Harbs again with his "should've, could've, would've" stuff. It wasn't the first game of Marty, it wasn't the first time he's completely abandoned a perfectly solid run game either. This should not have been a surprise to Harbaugh. Why then did he let it happen?!

Everyone are wiser after the fact, but a HC should be the one person who prevents these tings. I'm really starting to get tired with Harbaugh not having a grip on his staff. He talks about player discipline, yet fails to have his OC running the ball, like he has emphasized he wants to do the entire season.

Responsibility starts from the top, so if we fail to make playoffs, it's most of all on Harbaugh. Not on coaching staff, not on the offense, not on players. But first and foremost on Harbaugh for failing to have his team execute the things everyone knows they should be doing.

[TheConquerorWorm]

As hard as Self Righteous John and Pathetic Joe tried to sabotage the Ravens once again, they were not successful in snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Even Biscotti must know it's time for these two clowns to go. NO CHANCE the Ravens win in Pittsburgh!

CSFcab trolling again.....Get your yellow hanky ready to cry in, we're going into your house and kicking tail!

[Tru11]

nothing wrong with the call.

issue was the pathetic execution by the 9th year QB.

all he had to do was not turn the ball over.
we where well within JT range and thus anything other then a turnover would have been fine....

 

[gr2522]

If the outcome of Marty's call had been a TD nobody would be second guessing the play call selection. I bet Harbaugh would not even have mentioned the word VETO. Heck, he would probably be saying the call had his blessing and would be taking all the credit. Yet the minute the game was almost lost he threw his OC under the bus calling it "all-time worst play call". I agree with Tru11 that the "issue was the pathetic execution by the 9th year QB". Let me add a QB where the word "elite" surfaces every once in a while. All I can do is pray and hope that the Ravens win next Sunday securing a playoff birth. All I want for Christmas is to see the Steelers loose. The theme for the week Harbaugh and Co. should be to eliminate boneheaded decisions across the isle. "In Ozzy We Trust".
Go Ravens!!!

[KidNme]

13 hours ago, gooftroop said:

A bad idea, obviously, and the execution was even worse, but I wouldn't go so far as to say Joe only care about stats, and not winning- if that's what you're implying. At times, he has a goofy way of expressing himself, and I think that's all it was. I'm more worried that, for the last two games, teams are flooding the middle of the field, and Joe isn't figuring it out.

Although I didn't think of my statement that way when I wrote it, upon further reflection, ya, that's what I was saying. If Marty calls a pass play, 1st down on the Eagles 10 with us in control of the lead, and Joe says "Marty's letting me get 3 TD's in this game", then I'm not sure he was thinking of anything else but stats because if it were me, I would have given the sidelines a weird look with my hands in the air as if to say "What, Seriously???"

[sizzlingdoom]

Tru11 and gr2522 you guys must be kidding!!! I agree, the execution by Flacco was horrendous. He threw it to triple covered SSS instead of a WIDE open Waller for 6. Still, even if we score 6 on that play, you have to run on that play 100% of the time. It was first down, we were rockin on the ground, the last thing you can do is afford to turn the ball over there-and we all know Flacco is capable of that, but most importantly, all we needed to do was wind the clock down. SImple. And it was first down, not 3rd or 4th. Of course Flacco's execution was AWFUL at best. But how could you two honestly try to say "nothing wrong with the call". That's asinine. I have a feeling you just might be trying to play devils advocate because everyone's beating the dead horse. The coaching has been questionable at best just about all year. As bad as the coaching was today, it fails in comparison to how badly we were outcoached last week. Every week is different in the NFL. Time to get ready for a christmas day treat

[stixfix69]

no problem with being aggressive, Flacco just knows better, throw it in the bleachers if you have too.....We are our worst enemy right now, every game we have been in, but some bad play calling or blown coverage have lost games we could have won....Regardless we are still in it in December, and next week is our SB, we have to win, or we are done....

[Crusader]

  11 hours ago, 20306cab said:

As hard as Self Righteous John and Pathetic Joe tried to sabotage the Ravens once again, they were not successful in snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Even Biscotti must know it's time for these two clowns to go. NO CHANCE the Ravens win in Pittsburgh!

CSFcab trolling again.....Get your yellow hanky ready to cry in, we're going into your house and kicking tail!

You know your really named yourself right ...WORM. Update you name calling and get the definition right. That's not trolling.

[axisofeeble]

Very little imagination in play calling seems "our" norm.Marty's plays seem bland more suited to a fit experienced run oriented O-line that is paired with a stout defense capable of holding down scoring. If anything the 3 and out in 38 seconds was THE WORST PLAY calling of all year. Three runs behind the right side of out O-line ? Lucky we still can CAW till Christmas Day when we face a REAL DEFENSE who also has an offense that sends Brown down town with an intact healthy o-line. Good Luck Ravens "MORNING" in Ravenland is good for 7 more days. The Steelers can be run against..............but whatever happened to those quick throws to RBs out of our back field? I'll love our Ravens forever but ELITE JOE needs an OC that is a little innovative,a little daring and less "OLD" school.

[objective view]

Harbaugh is great at knowing what he should have done, the key is to do what needs to be done when the game is being played, not in the presser afterwards....

[robbie29]

I'd rather have Cam Cameron at this point than Marty

[ByTheBay]

What should be painfully obvious to Steve is that Harbaugh should have nothing to do with hiring the next OC. The only OC that was NOT hired by Hatbaugh was Kubiak. He doesnt have the ability to make the correct hire and thats ok as long as the Ravens stop letting him do so after so many failed attempts. They say that the definition of insanity is making the same mistakes over and over again and expecting different results. This team is insane. Everything from the refusal to run the ball or allowing John to make personnel decisions and then we hear the same excuses afterward. Its crazy. I wonder if John is even aware he is doing it? Every after game press confronted sounds the same. Crazy

[ineng1379]

Honestly, this really is an 8-8 team and nothing more, I hope they prove me wrong next Sunday but I just don't see it. Steelers haven't won against us in a long time and they'll be out for revenge with Ben at full strength. If we don't make playoffs this year, Harbaugh should be on the hot seat along with Marty. There's no use going 9-7,8-8 every year and looking around the conference for help in order to get into the post-season. If we do, then all sins are forgiven and if we don't, we end up with a mediocre 1st round pick.

Barring that bonehead call, I think offense was on/off today. Forget Harbaugh, but Flacco should have vetoed that call and called in an audible for run or should have thrown it Out of Bounds. 9 years in the league and he still has that deer in the headlight look. By the looks of this, we should replace him with a robot and still get the same result.

[runcontrol]

Can't turn the ball over Joe. Protect the lead. Let Tucker continue his historic run.

Was that a horrible pass? Absolutely, but I can't believe how many people are talking about just kicking the field goal. You need a 3 score lead to finish teams off and a field goal wasn't going to cut it.

But while we are talking about that pass, did anyone else notice the way Steve Smith is tackled as Joe is letting go of the ball? He had no chance of even touching the ball but I feel like a lot teams would have gotten pass interference on the play.

[runcontrol]

If "In Ozzie we trust" is true then our coaching staff must be pretty bad. The question is, are there any better coaches out there? I like harbaugh but how about finding some young innovators instead of continuing to recycle these old HC failures or 20 year career assistants.i

Part of me agrees with you. Mornhinweg definitely has issues and Trestman was a huge mistake by the team but Kubiak and Caldwell did a lot of good things for the Ravens offense but both got head coaching jobs before they really got a chance to make the Ravens offense their offense.

But I see what you are saying. Most of these older coaches understand football and had success elsewhere but they are unwilling to change things to keep up with what is going on in the NFL right now and adjust things to the players they have, and a younger coach is probably going to be willing to make these changes.

[Rav'n Maniac]

That play call was the most ridiculous call I've seen Marty make. Run The Ball.
Then he continued with that ridiculous final drive with three back to back runs when they were stacking the los. He had one on one coverage on the outside, Joe doesn't check out of the plays and they run it up the gut three straight plays. I hate this playing not to lose crap.

[DBsRAVENS]

What was really missed in that pathetic play call was the fact that it came after a timeout. Previous play: Pass catch by Wallace, long YAC. Offense moves slowly for next play gets to LOS with 5 seconds on play clock. Sideline signals for timeout as Flacco is unaware of play clock expiring and surprised by ref's whistle as play clock is about to expire. After timeout on first down from the 11 yard line in the Red Zone you call a Pass Play (again coming out of a Time Out and nobody on the offensive staff thinks this is a bad play). SMH

[BiggMack91]

i would like to see him on the hot seat and steve tells him playoffs or fired an he can take his bs coordinators with him

[merryjman]

ugh, meanwhile Darren Waller was all by himself, running to the right unguarded in the end zone.

[gr2522]

Ozzy Newsome at the end of the season needs to evaluate coach Harbaugh's performance this past season, and ultimately make a coaching change. Tom Coughlin and Mike Shanahan are both available. Either coach would most certainly restore the discipline which has lacked on the team which has led to too many penalties. They have a combined 4 SB victories so both are proven coaches. In Ozzy We Trust. Go Ravens!!!

[Jr.Morgan]

I could not believe they ran that play. I mean, there was a guy there that can kick a field goal and get 3, not to mention run the clock down!

[gooftroop]

10 hours ago, KidNme said:

Although I didn't think of my statement that way when I wrote it, upon further reflection, ya, that's what I was saying. If Marty calls a pass play, 1st down on the Eagles 10 with us in control of the lead, and Joe says "Marty's letting me get 3 TD's in this game", then I'm not sure he was thinking of anything else but stats because if it were me, I would have given the sidelines a weird look with my hands in the air as if to say "What, Seriously???"

Well, of course that what you were saying. That aside, he blew the read, and didn't see the coverage- isn't that bad, enough? Now his character gets called into question? I think Joe thought he'd throw a touchdown pass, on that play. He puts his head down, and doesn't say much, but you know he believes in himself, at all times. As long as he believes in the play call, and likes what he sees pre-snap, he's always going to throw the ball. That's who he is, good, or bad.

[Fastynart]

I have never been a Harbaugh fan. This is the perfect example of why. He is a moron and his quarterback isn't much above him on the intelligence ladder either. Two boneheads couldn't figure out that it was just plain stupid to throw the ball in that situation. They had the game in the bag. A field goal puts it out of reach. Yet, people here are still defending both of them. Good grief.